But between the main stream media and the official Democratic released statement, they did provide some details that they believed could be seen as nefarious (if you look at it from "just the right angle"). Some examples of questionable behavior reported by the media?
- The Trump team looked to (gasp) coordinate public statements
- The President himself worked with his son and others on the public statement
- The attorneys representing the Trump campaign reached out to those being interviewed prior to the interviews to talk about their memories of the testimony
- People who attended the meeting were upset and thought that the meeting was "dumb".
- Nobody admitted to talking about hacked emails. Even the translator who attended stated there were no discussions about emails. Troubling.
- Trump Jr did not want to talk about adoption issues, instead suggesting Veselnitskaya take their concerns to the Obama Administration.
- President Trump "almost" met with Putin during the campaign.
- "Top Trump campaign officials were frustrated and angry that the meeting did not produce enough damaging information on their opponent” (apparently they should have hired Richard Steele if they wanted dirt from Russians)."
- “Their efforts to conceal the meeting and its true purpose are consistent with a larger pattern of false statements about the Trump campaign’s relationship with Russia.”
- "To call the Senate Judiciary Committee's Trump-Russia investigation halfhearted is too generous."
- There are "seemingly contradictory and evasive responses that need to be resolved." (Perhaps with bright lights and advanced interrogation techniques?)
at least through November.
94 comments:
(CNN)Thousands of pages of interview transcripts with the participants of the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting shed new light on how eager Donald Trump Jr. and senior members of the Trump campaign were to obtain damaging information on Hillary Clinton — and how frustrated and angry they were that the material did not come to fruition.
The nearly 2,000 pages of interviews do not appear to contain information that would change the course of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Trump's team and Russia. But the transcripts released by the Senate Judiciary Committee fill in new details about how Trump Jr., President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort were expecting a bombshell from Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.
Rob Goldstone, the British music publicist who arranged the Trump Tower meeting, told the committee he was anticipating a "smoking gun" from Veselnitskaya when he urged Trump Jr. to take the meeting, even though he thought it was a "bad idea and that we shouldn't do it."
"I just sent somebody an email that says I'm setting up a meeting for someone that is going to bring you damaging information about somebody who was running to become the President of the United States," Goldstone said. "I thought that was worthy of the words 'smoking gun,' yes."
LOL
Is Roger attempting to be serious and assign criminality to a meeting for "op research"?
Senate Intelligence Committee Breaks with House
“The Senate Intelligence Committee says the U.S. intelligence community was correct in assessing that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections with the aim of helping Donald Trump, contradicting findings House Republicans reached last month,” the Washington Post reports.
“The determination sets up a clash within the GOP over which record of events is most accurate, a dispute that could complicate the party’s messaging surrounding the Russia investigations as it heads into the 2018 election season.”
‘Crossfire Hurricane’
“Within hours of opening an investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in the summer of 2016, the F.B.I. dispatched a pair of agents to London on a mission so secretive that all but a handful of officials were kept in the dark,” the New York Times reports.
“Their assignment, which has not been previously reported, was to meet the Australian ambassador, who had evidence that one of Donald J. Trump’s advisers knew in advance about Russian election meddling. After tense deliberations between Washington and Canberra, top Australian officials broke with diplomatic protocol and allowed the ambassador, Alexander Downer, to sit for an F.B.I. interview to describe his meeting with the campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos.
“The agents summarized their highly unusual interview and sent word to Washington on Aug. 2, 2016, two days after the investigation was opened. Their report helped provide the foundation for a case that, a year ago Thursday, became the special counsel investigation. But at the time, a small group of F.B.I. officials knew it by its code name: Crossfire Hurricane.”
_____________________
That sort of makes the following more poignant:
_________
“If our leaders seek to conceal the truth or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom.”
— Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, quoted by NBC News, giving the commencement address at the Virginia Military Institute.
LOTS of good stuff at politicalwire.com today and yesterday.
Blue wave coming?
“Within hours of opening an investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in the summer of 2016, the F.B.I. dispatched a pair of agents to London on a mission so secretive that all but a handful of officials were kept in the dark,” the New York Times reports.
“Their assignment, which has not been previously reported, was to meet the Australian ambassador, who had evidence that one of Donald J. Trump’s advisers knew in advance about Russian election meddling. After tense deliberations between Washington and Canberra, top Australian officials broke with diplomatic protocol and allowed the ambassador, Alexander Downer, to sit for an F.B.I. interview to describe his meeting with the campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos.
Thanks James!!!
Proof that the FBI was trying to both "set up" and "spy" on the Trump administration, looking for any excuse to open a bigger investigation.
Didn't realize you were on our side!!!
Congratulations!
Why did Papadopoulos confess to lying to the FBI?
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile and admits it.
Unable to answer, Loretta "Teresa" posts a lie.
President Donald Trump's public financial disclosure form released Wednesday says Trump "fully reimbursed" his longtime lawyer Michael Cohen for an unspecified amount and purpose in 2017.
Cohen is known to have paid porn star Stormy Daniels $130,000 on the eve of the 2016 presidential election in exchange for her silence about an alleged affair with Trump.
Earlier this month, one of Trump's new lawyers, Rudy Giuliani, confirmed for the first time that the president reimbursed Cohen for that payment.
That confirmation, in turn, reignited questions of whether Cohen's payment to Daniels represented an illegal contribution to Trump's presidential campaign.
In recent days, a looming question was whether Trump's financial disclosure form would mention Cohen's payment to Daniels and Trump's reimbursement for it, as a leading government ethics expert said it must.
Proof that the FBI was trying to both "set up" and "spy" on the Trump administration, looking for any excuse to open a bigger investigation.
Cognitive dissonance
Roger AmickMay 16, 2018 at 2:31 PM
President Donald Trump's"
**you promised to not spam***
Same cut n paste on two threads FOUR MINUTES APART.
Why did Papadopoulos confess to lying to the FBI?
He told the FBI he was drinking Margaritas, but several witnesses said he was drinking shots of tequila.
Lol, unless that's true then we are actual down the Rabbit hole.
Crossfire Hurricane
By Matt Apuzzo, Adam Goldman and Nicholas Fandos
May 16, 2018
WASHINGTON — Within hours of opening an investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in the summer of 2016, the F.B.I. dispatched a pair of agents to London on a mission so secretive that all but a handful of officials were kept in the dark.
Their assignment, which has not been previously reported, was to meet the Australian ambassador, who had evidence that one of Donald J. Trump’s advisers knew in advance about Russian election meddling. After tense deliberations between Washington and Canberra, top Australian officials broke with diplomatic protocol and allowed the ambassador, Alexander Downer, to sit for an F.B.I. interview to describe his meeting with the campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos.
The agents summarized their highly unusual interview and sent word to Washington on Aug. 2, 2016, two days after the investigation was opened. Their report helped provide the foundation for a case that, a year ago Thursday, became the special counsel investigation. But at the time, a small group of F.B.I. officials knew it by its code name: Crossfire Hurricane.
The name, a reference to the Rolling Stones lyric “I was born in a crossfire hurricane,” was an apt prediction of a political storm that continues to tear shingles off the bureau. Days after they closed their investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server, agents began scrutinizing the campaign of her Republican rival. The two cases have become inextricably linked in one of the most consequential periods in the history of the F.B.I.
This month, the Justice Department inspector general is expected to release the findings of its lengthy review of the F.B.I.’s conduct in the Clinton case. The results are certain to renew debate over decisions by the F.B.I. director at the time, James B. Comey, to publicly chastise Mrs. Clinton in a news conference, and then announce the reopening of the investigation days before Election Day. Mrs. Clinton has said those actions buried her presidential hopes.
Those decisions stand in contrast to the F.B.I.’s handling of Crossfire Hurricane. Not only did agents in that case fall back to their typical policy of silence, but interviews with a dozen current and former government officials and a review of documents show that the F.B.I. was even more circumspect in that case than has been previously known. Many of the officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly.
Agents considered, then rejected, interviewing key Trump associates, which might have sped up the investigation but risked revealing the existence of the case. Top officials quickly became convinced that they would not solve the case before Election Day, which made them only more hesitant to act. When agents did take bold investigative steps, like interviewing the ambassador, they were shrouded in secrecy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/crossfire-hurricane-trump-russia-fbi-mueller-investigation.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Crossfire Hurricane.
hoo boy!
you really got him this time alky!!!
Alky is sucking the barrel of every smoking gun like Stormy Daniels sucks, well, ya know.
FBI code name for Hillary Investigation.
"FAT BOTTOM GIRLS"
It is time to help the left .
President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, told Fox News on Wednesday that special counsel Robert Mueller has told the president's legal team he will follow Justice Department guidance and not seek an indictment against Trump.:",😁
The agents decided to not release the information before the election in order to avoid altering the results of the election.
Top officials quickly became convinced that they would not solve the case before Election Day, which made them only more hesitant to act. When agents did take bold investigative steps, like interviewing the ambassador, they were shrouded in secrecy.
A seating President cannot be indicted while he is in office. He should be put in handcuffs as he leaves the White House
In 2025 ?
Ok, it's a date. Alky .
A seating President = drunk while posting,
The date of the affair is meaningless.
What matters to real Americans is that lies are a threat to democracy.
WASHINGTON — In a veiled rebuke of President Trump, former Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson warned on Wednesday that American democracy was threatened by a growing “crisis of ethics and integrity.”
“If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom,” he said in a commencement address at the Virginia Military Institute in Lexington, Va.
Even small falsehoods and exaggerations are problematic, Mr. Tillerson said. He did not mention Mr. Trump by name, although the president is prone to both.
“When we as people, a free people, go wobbly on the truth even on what may seem the most trivial matters, we go wobbly on America,” he said.
The President has repeatedly lied about his actions in regards to the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels. He paid for the silence of Daniels.
Pure Entertainment, ty.
CNN) Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has informed President Donald Trump's attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to the President's lawyer.
"All they get to do is write a report," Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani told CNN. "They can't indict. At least they acknowledged that to us after some battling, they acknowledged that to us."
Pure stupidity from the kput'z
Who knew that little broken HB had a man crush on the former CEO of ExxonMobil Oil.
oger AmickMay 16, 2018 at 6:49 PM
A seating President cannot be indicted while he is in office. He should be put in handcuffs as he leaves the White House.
You agreed 3 hours ago, stupid.
You can't keep up
Every comment is futher proof of your stupidity.
Dems slogan, 2018 vote for me and I promise to empeachment the "seating President".
Quoting HB always pissed off HB.
Using grammatical errors is stupid.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
You can't keep up
with your copy/paste's, alky?
we've already read the shit you post, genius.
oh, and your crossfire hurricane is looking more like a fart in a whirlwind. it's the ny times attempting to pick up a turd from the clean end.
"oh, and your crossfire hurricane is looking more like a fart in a whirlwind."
Except that it confirms that the Obama administration was indeed spying on Trump for political purposes.
thanks to the ny times and their 'crossfire hurricane' diatribe they confirm that in fact, the FBI was spying on the trump campaign.
good work, ny times.
hey alky - pro tip:
read the stories you post BEFORE you post them.
that piece didn't vindicate the FBI, it indicted the FBI, you dumb fuck.
Using grammatical errors is stupid."
Omg funny, what a crippled asshole.
You pro date Jane created a moniker here to do what you are now against.
So the obama fbi was spying on the trump campaign, just as trump said while giving hillary a pass on actual criminal behavior.
It's amazing that trump still won.
Someone in the deep state needs to go to prison.
Trump Jr. agreed to take a meeting with a Russian lawyer believing she would give him incriminating information on Hillary Clinton as part of the Russian government’s support for his father. He then made an 11-minute phone call to a blocked number, but claims he cannot remember who he called and whether he spoke to his father about it. According to Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s former campaign manager, Donald Trump used a blocked phone number at his personal residence at the time of the call.
The very next day he said that in two days he would have a press conference filled with negative news about Hillary Clinton.
Junior in testimony he said that he didn't remember making a call to his father. I don't recall is what a lawyer advises his client to say.
The fact that the FBI surveillance of the Trump campaign was kept secret is evidence that the FBI/DOJ intentionally avoided having an impact upon the election.
"Trump Jr. agreed to take a meeting with a Russian lawyer believing she would give him incriminating information on Hillary Clinton"
Big deal.
The candidate Trump was aware of the Gold Tower meeting before and after. He knew that the Russians had bad news about Hillary Clinton. Junior has not been compelled to testify under oath. If he is subpoenaed to testify before the Grand Jury he would probably plead his fifth amendment rights. If he agrees to testify upon oath, and he reveals that the candidate Trump was aware of the meeting before and after he could very well face impeachment charges if the Democrats retake the house of Representatives. The crime would be obstruction of justice.
Roger's breathless speculation is nothing more than his wet dream fantasies.
Not even worth the time to copy/paste.
"It is a very big deal if he was aware of the reason to get negative information on Hillary Clinton before and after is a very big deal."
No it isn't. It wouldn't even be considered illegal.
" If Trump Jr. agreed to take a meeting with a Russian lawyer believing she would give him incriminating information on Hillary Clinton"
It is a very big deal if Trump Senor was aware of the reason to get negative information on Hillary Clinton before and after is a very big deal. If he was aware both before and after it's a very big deal.
Yes it can be a very big deal. It would potentially become evidence of collusion.
No the secrecy is evidence that they thought hillary would win and none of this would have to see the light of day.
"Yes it can be a very big deal. It would potentially become evidence of collusion."
LOL!
Keep the dream alive!!!
The big deal is that the fbi and doj were spying on the opposing presidential candidate
Two other women were given silencing payments.
"Two other women were given silencing payments."
Big deal.
Poor Roger is trying to side-step the real story which is bigger than watergate:
The Obama administration used the FBI to spy on an opposition political campaign.
The reason why the FBI/DOJ was impeded because the Russians were aggressively targeting Trump's opposition aggressively. The fact that they didn't speak out prior to the election is evidence that the FBI/DOJ were not trying to damage the Trump campaign.
"The Obama administration used the FBI to spy on an opposition political campaign."
Perfect little Putin wannabes.
Those decisions stand in contrast to the F.B.I.’s handling of Crossfire Hurricane. Not only did agents in that case fall back to their typical policy of silence, but interviews with a dozen current and former government officials and a review of documents show that the F.B.I. was even more circumspect in that case than has been previously known. Many of the officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly.
They did not interfere with the Trump campaign and election.
"They did not interfere with the Trump campaign and election."
Texts tell a different story.
There is no evidence that the Obama administration direct the FBI/DOJ to interfer in the Trump campaign in order to influence the results of the election.
If Barack Obama was a Republican the New York Times wouldn't be trying to sweep the spying under the rug.
Spying on an opposition campaign is third world banana republic stuff and a direct interference in the election process.
The evidence is exactly the opposite.
There is no evidence that the Obama administration direct the FBI/DOJ to interfer in the Trump campaign in order to influence the results of the election.
There is no evidence that the Obama administration direct the FBI/DOJ
You mean other than the fact the FBI/DOJ was under Obama's direct command?
Not to mention all of the unmasking request of Trump campaign operatives by Obama and his henchmen (women).
OLD AND BUSTED: "we definitely weren't spying on Trump, that's a conspiracy theory"
NEW HOTNESS: "Of course we were spying on Trump! With covert informants and electronic surveillance. It was our patriotic duty. What, you don't like it? You must be a bot or a bigot"
John Huber.
Cooperation with a foreign power who attempted to influence the results of election is above and beyond banana republic "stuff".
It's called collusion.
"There is no evidence that the Obama administration direct the FBI/DOJ"
LOL.
Sure.
So far the only evidence of foreign collusion is Hillary Clinton buying a dossier from the Russians through MI6 agent Christopher Steele.
With the FBI happely participating.
"It's called collusion."
It's called opposition research.
Yep.
Funny how it is only a crime when Trump Wins.
FBI funded Steele.
FBI funded Steele.
BS!!!!
10 Key Takeaways From The New York Times’ Error-Ridden Defense Of FBI Spying On Trump Campaign
1. FBI Officials Admit They Spied On Trump Campaign
2. Terrified About Looming Inspector General Report
3. Still No Evidence of Collusion With Russia
4. Four Trump Affiliates Spied On
5. Wiretaps, National Security Letters, and At Least One Spy
6. More Leaks About a Top-Secret Government Informant
7. Ignorance of Basic Facts
8. Insurance: How Does It Work?
9. Eavesdropping, Not Spying, And Other Friendly Claims
10. Affirms Fears of Politicized Intelligence
The New York Times is now the propaganda ministry for the deep state.
This is a stunning admission for those Americans worried that federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies might use their powers to surveil, leak against, and target Americans simply for their political views or affiliations. As Sean Davis wrote, “The most amazing aspect about this article is how blasé it is about the fact that the Obama admin was actively spying on four affiliates of a rival political campaign weeks before an election.”
The story says the FBI was worried that if it came out they were spying on Trump campaign it would “only reinforce his claims that the election was being rigged against him.” It is easy to understand how learning that the FBI was spying on one’s presidential campaign might reinforce claims of election-rigging.
This is how you shut Roger up.
There is now a fourth monkey in the see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil former trilogy.
It's Roger with his eyes closed,, fingers in his ears, screaming at the top of his lungs.
Worst political scandal ever and he tries to ignore what's there.
It is entertaining.
The Federalist
Well written Trumpism.
The Atlantic.
Donald Trump is testing the institution of the presidency unlike any of his 43 predecessors. We have never had a president so ill-informed about the nature of his office, so openly mendacious, so self-destructive, or so brazen in his abusive attacks on the courts, the press, Congress (including members of his own party), and even senior officials within his own administration. Trump is a Frankenstein’s monster of past presidents’ worst attributes: Andrew Jackson’s rage; Millard Fillmore’s bigotry; James Buchanan’s incompetence and spite; Theodore Roosevelt’s self-aggrandizement; Richard Nixon’s paranoia, insecurity, and indifference to law; and Bill Clinton’s lack of self-control and reflexive dishonesty.
The Federalist once again asserted that the FBI/DOJ investigation during the campaign was politically motivated in an attempt to sabotage his campaign.
The evidence is exactly the opposite. If they had released their data on the Russian intervention with the endorsement of the Trump campaign the election would have gone to Hillary Clinton. Unlike Comey who released his own investigative report prior to election day.
Under John Brennan, the CIA operated as an opposition research outfit for the Hillary Clinton campaign. It appears from leaked news stories in the British press that Brennan’s oafish spying on Trump began around April 2016, right after Trump’s biggest primary victories. As it became urgently clear to Brennan that Trump was going to face off against Hillary, Brennan turned to “intelligence partners” in Europe for dirt on Trump. But they didn’t have any, save some pretty skimpy material on “contacts” between Trump campaign officials and Russians.
The Atlantic's opinion of Donald Trump is neither impeachable nor it is a particular cause for concern about our democratic institutions.
However the FBI doing political spying under Obama's authorization if not his direct orders is a grievous threat to those institutions.
Far more a threat than you can conceive in your TDS infected, fevered mind.
1. So a few important points on that new NYT "Hurricane Crossfire" piece. A story that, BTW, all of us following this knew had to be coming. This is DOJ/FBI leakers' attempt to get in front of the facts Nunes is forcing out, to make it not sound so bad. Don't buy it. It's bad.
2. Biggest takeaway: Govt "sources" admit that, indeed, the Obama DOJ and FBI spied on the Trump campaign. Spied. (Tho NYT kindly calls spy an "informant.") NYT slips in confirmation far down in story, and makes it out like it isn't a big deal. It is a very big deal.
3. In self-serving desire to get a sympathetic story about its actions, DOJ/FBI leakers are willing to provide yet more details about that "top secret" source (namely, that spying was aimed at Page/Papadopoulos)--making all more likely/certain source will be outed. That's on them
4. DOJ/FBI (and its leakers) have shredded what little credibility they have in claiming they cannot comply with subpoena. They are willing to provide details to friendly media, but not Congress? Willing to risk very source they claim to need to protect?
5. Back in Dec., NYT assured us it was the Papadopoulos-Downer convo that inspired FBI to launch official counterintelligence operation on July 31, 2016. Which was convenient, since it diminished the role of the dossier. However . . .
6. Now NYT tells us FBI didn't debrief downer until August 2nd. And Nunes says no "official intelligence" from allies was delivered to FBI about that convo prior to July 31. So how did FBI get Downer details? (Political actors?) And what really did inspire the CI investigation?
7. As for whether to believe line that FBI operated soberly/carefully/judiciously in 2016, a main source for this judgment is, um . . .uh . . . Sally Yates. Who was in middle of it all. A bit like asking Putin to reassure that Russia didn't meddle in our election.
8. On that, if u r wondering who narrated this story, note paragraphs that assure everybody that hardly anybody in DOJ knew about probe. Oh, and Comey also was given few details. Nobody knew nothin'! (Cuz when u require whole story saying u behaved, it means u know you didn't.)
"To call the Senate Judiciary Committee's Trump-Russia investigation halfhearted is too generous."
For once since Trump was elected President they issued a truly bipartisan statement. The Russians actually attempted to influence the results of the election. The scope of the attacks and the influence on the outcome are very difficult to quantify.
The Atlantic piece was opinion based upon historical facts.
I do believe that the President is a grievous threat to the DOJ and FBI. He's attempting to use them like a banana republic dictator.
Kimberley A. Strassel is an American author, journalist, and member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board. She writes a weekly conservative column, "Potomac Watch", which appears on Fridays.
Once again Roger gets his presidents all wrong.
It was Obama who succeeded in using the DOJ and the FBI like a banana republic dictator.
"I do believe that the President is a grievous threat to the DOJ and FBI."
No
One
Cares what you believe.
"It was Obama who succeeded in using the DOJ and the FBI like a banana republic dictator."
Exactly.
Roger hasn't been right about anything yet.
Strassel connects the dots.
It's too complicated for Roger.
WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s failure last year to disclose that he repaid his lawyer Michael Cohen for Cohen’s pre-election payout to Stormy Daniels has been referred to the Department of Justice.
The Office of Government Ethics determined Wednesday that Cohen’s payment to Daniels, which Trump repaid last year, constituted a loan that should have been reported on the president’s June 2017 financial disclosure form. Trump did disclose the liability in a footnote to the form he filed Tuesday. The note claimed he did not have to make the disclosure, but was doing so anyway “in the interest of transparency.”
OOPS!!!
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Kimberley A. Strassel is an American author, journalist, and member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board. She writes a weekly conservative column, "Potomac Watch", which appears on Fridays.
that would be correct, alky. and between her and mollie hemingway at the federalist, they're the only ones who are actually getting to the truth on the "0linsky's FBI spying on trump" thing.
Roger hasn't been right about anything yet.
Nov. 9th, 2016 he prayed for a dow collapse, it didn't.
April 4th, 2018, ne said "Trump collapsing the Dow"
It is up over 1,000 points since HB declared his hate for wealth.
Remember, The Lost Years Prez knew everything that happened. So now that we learned BlackBerry used the US Intelligence and Top Law Enforcement agencies to spy and attempted coup on this President.
WP is having financial problems.
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