So the reality is that these border detainment camps are not a family friendly atmosphere, complete with play dates, after school activities, and Sunday afternoon barbecues. These are dangerous violent facilities. Fights, beatings, drugs, sex, and even rape was commonplace in these detention facilities. Why would we want to house children in this sort of atmosphere? Why would we subject them to drugs, beatings, and rape? Would anyone suggest that our minor aged criminal offenders be house in adult prisons? How about housing teenage girls along side the harden criminals of a federal penitentiary with limited supervision?
Of course not.
The idea of having children in these border detention centers prompted a variety of lawsuits, executive agreements, and legal decisions by the courts. The eventual legal outcome from all of this was that children could not be housed in adult detention centers except for a very short period of time. These legal decisions were once applauded by civil rights groups, child protection groups, and other advocates.
However, today, we have our nonsensical "resistance" circulating old pictures of these child detention centers, telling us all how inhuman it is that the children have been "ripped from the arms of their parents". Suddenly, according to the mindless, we are in the middle of a humanitarian crisis of the scope that we have not seen since the holocaust, and gulag camps. All because we are following the guidance of previous court and executive decisions, designed specifically to protect children.
Oh, and go figure... the horrifying humanitarian crisis is (of course) all Donald Trump's fault.
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump · 2h2 hours ago
Elect more Republicans in November and we will pass the finest, fairest and most comprehensive Immigration Bills anywhere in the world. Right now we have the dumbest and the worst. Dems are doing nothing but Obstructing. Remember their motto, RESIST! Ours is PRODUCE!
The girl from the Time magazine cover on the border crisis
"The father of the Honduran girl who became the face of the family separation crisis has revealed that he still has not been in touch with his wife or daughter but was happy to learn they are safe.
Denis Javier Varela Hernandez, 32, said that he had not heard from his wife Sandra, 32, who was with his two-year-old daughter Yanela Denise, for nearly three weeks until he saw the image of them being apprehended in Texas.
In an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com, Hernandez, who lives in Puerto Cortes, Honduras, says that he was told yesterday that his wife and child are being detained at a family residential center in Texas but are together and are doing 'fine.'
'You can imagine how I felt when I saw that photo of my daughter. It broke my heart. It's difficult as a father to see that, but I know now that they are not in danger. They are safer now than when they were making that journey to the border,' he said.
Denis said his wife and daughter were never separated by border control agents and remain together.
He revealed that his wife had previously mentioned her wish to go to the United States for a 'better future' but did not tell him nor any of their family members that she was planning to make the trek.
'I didn't support it. I asked her, why? Why would she want to put our little girl through that? But it was her decision at the end of the day.'"
…
"He said he heard from friends that his wife paid $6,000 for a coyote - a term for someone who smuggles people across the border.
'I wouldn't risk my life for it. It's hard to find a good job here and that's why many people choose to leave. But I thank God that I have a good job here. And I would never risk my life making that journey.'"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5869829/Father-two-year-old-face-child-separation-crisis-speaks-out.html
https://politicalwire.com/2018/06/22/fox-news-vs-north-korea-state-tv/
fox news and North Korean television show us how it's done
https://politicalwire.com/2018/06/22/doors/
Here's how it's really done
Denis said his wife and daughter were never separated by border control agents and remain together.
isn't it interesting that the alky's stalwart defenders of the first amendment and free press are proven to be liars every fucking day.
CNN) There is a truly remarkable number in the most recent CNN poll, conducted by SSRS and out this morning.
In it, 42% of Americans say President Donald Trump should be impeached and removed from office.
What makes it remarkable is that he's on par with President Richard Nixon, who 43% of Americans said should be impeached and removed from office in a March 1974 Harris poll. That was after the scale of Watergate came to light, but months before the House started to move against Nixon, who would go on to resign in August 1974 rather than be impeached.
In it, 42% of Americans say President Donald Trump should be impeached and removed from office.
so... 42% of americans are dumb fucks. thanks for that tidbit of trivial information alky.
tell me something i don't know.
oh, and cillizza is a fucking toolbag.
Border agent involved with dramatic photo of crying girl breaks silence
46 mins ago
The picture of a Honduran girl crying as she and her mother are detained in Texas has grabbed worldwide attention and come to symbolize the intense debate about separating children from their parents.
Time magazine put the young girl on this week's cover, but the Border
Patrol agent involved in the dramatic scene says the photo might be a little misleading. That agent said the mother and daughter were never separated and are still together.
"We were patrolling the border. It was after 10 o'clock at night," Border Patrol agent Carlos Ruiz told CBS News' Da vid Begnaud.
He was the first to encounter Sandra Sanchez and her daughter after they allegedly crossed the Rio Grande River into Texas illegally.
"We asked her to set the kid down in front of her, not away from her, she was right in front of her...So we can properly search the mother," Ruiz said. "So the kid immediately started crying as she set her down. I personally went up to the mother and asked her 'Are you doing OK? Is the kid OK?' and she said, 'Yes. She's tired and thirsty.
"They're using it to symbolize a policy and that was not the case in this picture," Ruiz said. "It took less than two minutes. As soon as the search was finished, she immediately picked the girl up, and the girl immediately stopped crying."
Moore says Ruiz and other agents acted professionally that night. But he is happy with the cover and the response to the image.
"Oftentimes, immigration is talked about in terms of statistics, and when you put a human face and humanize an issue, you make people feel. And when you make people feel, they have compassion. And if I've done just a little bit of that, then that's OK," Moore said.
Ruiz said he and his fellow agents represent more than just the Border Patrol logo.
"We are also fathers, we are also sons, we are also have families, and we do care, and we do our jobs, and we treat these people as humanely and as best as we possibly can," Ruiz said.
You have given up your bogus argument on the support of zero Tolerance policy and claiming that it's required by the law.
Now you are reduced to claiming that the vast majority of the people fleeing violence and brutality by gangs and the oppressive governments, into claiming that the vast majority of the migrants are criminals, rapist and murderers.
You're echoing the campaign rhetoric and using it to justify a cruel and anti American imprisonment of thousands of children in camps without any chance of being reunited with their families.
Flores v. Loretta Lynch – The 9th Circuit Decision"
Roger, you said no such LAW existed.
Wrong again .
Cnn poll.
Lol. Good one.
Flores v. Loretta Lynch is irrelevant because it doesn't say what you think it does.
In it, 42% of Americans say President Donald Trump should be impeached and removed from office."
2018 Election slogan for Dems.
"Hate With US"
Lol@Alky.
1, the Law never existed
Now.
The case cited by the ACLU and posted by me is Wrong.
Tell me SueAlky, how am I wrong. Don't dodge Rog.
95% of these illegal Adults once released into the US do NOT make their Hearing date. Guess thier to busy being better then home grown Americans, leading thier honest lives.
the man requires a walker to be ambulatory and he acts like he has a fucking law degree.
heh.
flores v lynch created this fucking shitshow, alky. couple that with democrat flat out refusal to craft legislation to address the problem because they're having too much fun milking it, and this is where we are.
Coward CH postulates in his opening that...
significant portion of the people being detained at the border are accused of crimes other than just illegally crossing the border
Just like his trump, projecting as fact while providing no evidence of what significant means or who they are or how many!!!!!....I call another gigantic bullshit to him again. Why is he starting to act like Faux news?????
Thursday, June 21, 2018
Most voters blame the parents of the separated children at the border for the latest illegal immigration crisis, not the federal government.
When families are arrested and separated after attempting to enter the United States illegally, 54% of Likely U.S. Voters say the parents are more to blame for breaking the law. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that only 35% believe the federal government is more to blame for enforcing the law. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/june_2018/voters_blame_parents_not_feds_for_border_children_crisis
Trump just surrendered on immigration reform.
Fauxnewstruth.com here will declare victory. CH has lost it.
Lol@Alky.
1, the Law never existed
Now.
The case cited by the ACLU and posted by me is Wrong.
Tell me SueAlky, how am I wrong. Don't dodge Rog.
I see your back on the walker, shuffle.
OPEC OPENS oil Tap.
Pres. Trump wins again.
I am completely mobile and you could not keep up with me in the gym. My walker is folded up and put away. My Doctor is just thrilled with my recovery.
I can read English including the laws and the Constitution. Flores V Lynch doesn't say what you think it does.
Trump surrendered just minutes ago.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Trump just surrendered on immigration reform.
surrendered, alky?
in the land of pink elephants perhaps, but in reality he's winning the battle. his fall-back position is to enforce existing immigration law. the left has been caught lying repeatedly about the children issue and public opinion has shifted to trump's favor. democrats claim to want a fix yet resist all but the most extreme liberal legislative solution.
the fact is alky is that trump holds all the cards on this deal.
if democrats have pinned their mid term hopes on this particular issue, you guys are fucked beyond comprehension.
A lie of epic proportions
a significant portion of the people being detained at the border are accused of crimes other than just illegally crossing the border.
Approximately 1%
"
projecting as fact while providing no evidence of what significant means or who they are or how many!!!!!....I call another gigantic bullshit to him again. " alky
"The Washington Post reported on Monday that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested 37,734 undocumented “noncriminal” immigrants in the 2017 fiscal year, more than double the amount in 2016. This category of people includes those facing charges and those with no criminal records at all.
ICE also arrested 105,736 immigrants who had been convicted of crimes, a small uptick from 2016."
Not that CHT needs my help.
Approximately 1%
where did you come up with THAT number, alky?
i think i know because i'm catching a whiff of old ass.
feel free to cite your source.
your propensity to lie leaves me with a default position of believing CH over you every single time.
ICE also arrested 105,736 immigrants who had been convicted of crimes, a small uptick from 2016."
ouchie.
he alky, ya better put some ice on that.
"Elect more Republicans in November and we will pass the finest, fairest and most comprehensive Immigration Bills anywhere in the world. Right now we have the dumbest and the worst," he tweeted. "Dems are doing nothing but Obstructing. Remember their motto, RESIST! Ours is PRODUCE!"
Speaker Pelosi will have a plan to replace the President.
Flores V Lynch doesn't say what you think it does.
In 2016, in Flores v. Lynch, the consent decree was clarified to indicate that the policy applied equally to accompanied and unaccompanied minors; neither group could be held for more than 20 days. The ruling meant that unless a suitable placement could be found for a minor who came across, either alone or with an adult seeking asylum, both adult and child had to be either released or returned to their country of origin.
http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/393105-the-conversation-we-should-be-having-about-child-separation
so skeets used it as catch and release, while trump will simply send them the fuck home where they belong.
and here's the link to the ruling itself:
https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2016/07/06/15-56434.pdf
So alky, with 105,736 poor convicted arrests of those attempting to gain entry, and using your "approximately 1 %", you have how many illegals flooding in?
Speaker Pelosi will have a plan to replace the President.
Palsy Pelosi??? Good luck with that
here's the link to the ruling itself:"RRB
I can read English including the laws and the Constitution. Flores V Lynch doesn't say what you think it does. "
Lol@Alky.
1, the Law never existed
Now.
The case cited by the ACLU and posted by me is Wrong.
Tell me SueAlky, how am I wrong. Don't dodge Rog.
hey alky, i'd like your opinion on something...
i'm thinking of a method to quickly and efficiently return illegal beaners back to the messican side of the border, and i keep coming back to a rather ancient device - the catapult, or trebuchet if you will.
i mean, i'm thinking of single seater and two seater models. the second for illegal beaners and their lil beans.
what do you think?
could we get the messican government to paint giant bullseyes on their side of the border? it would be significantly cheaper than making them pay for the wall.
Speaker Pelosi will have a plan to replace the President." Alky
Cool, given you said "will have" , meaning she doesn't have a plan yet.
Palsy Pelosi??? Good luck with that
she's had so many mini strokes on camera she deserves an emmy.
i'm sorry alky.
i meant GENERAL alky:
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Lol, Lawyer Alky Promoted to a General of Douche.
The Negotiator in Chief got suckered by Kim Jong Ung and now his own political party is unable to negotiate a viable solution to the immigration system.
Blaming the Democrats is "duck and cover" strategy that fools some Republicans. In November of the educated woman who voted for Trump in swing states are not going to be fooled by the President.
Blue Wave"
"I was made a General.
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LOL.
We care about the children. You don't. You're heartless. U don't know how we don't like u. It's not Fake News. Fox News is your Pravda.
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Repeat: Pravda, not Prada. Retweet
He could fix this issue with an executive order.
Since 2014, more than 300,000 family units or unaccompanied minors have arrived illegally into the United States from Central America and applied for asylum claiming fear of gang members or violent husbands, etc. Most do not meet the refugee status requirements.
According to the Migration Policy Institute, "being forced to join a gang or experiencing violence do not generally qualify as a basis for refugee status or fall readily into one of the refugee definition categories."
LOL
Facts make you laugh.
Trump pulls the plug.
Two days ago, President Donald Trump promised House Republicans he'd have their backs "1,000 percent" on immigration. On Friday, he told them to “stop wasting their time” — putting GOP leaders in an impossible position and throwing the conference into chaos.
But House Republican leaders say they plan to forge ahead with an immigration vote next week nonetheless.
Speaker Paul Ryan's team has spent weeks trying to strike an accord between moderate Republicans from swing-districts and conservatives who are petrified of being accused of supporting "amnesty."
And House Republicans exited a Thursday night meeting saying they believed they had a "breakthrough" between the two wings of the party on a compromise that would help Dreamers and boost border security.
But Trump undercut his party’s plans Friday, telling them to wait until after the midterm elections to act.
“Republicans should stop wasting their time on Immigration until after we elect more Senators and Congressmen/women in November,” the president wrote on Twitter. “Dems are just playing games, have no intention of doing anything to solves this decades old problem. We can pass great legislation after the Red Wave!”
House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said on the House floor that they would vote next week anyway, a rare act of defiance for the close Trump ally.
"We have been working very closely with the entire conference, taking all ideas in," McCarthy said. "We had a very productive conference last night, and we'll work through the weekend and you will see that bill on the floor next week."
Still, the tweet puts Ryan in a serious bind.
To stave off a discharge petition from moderate Republicans and Democrats, the Wisconsin Republican promised the centrists that he'd give them a vote on some sort of bill they could support. If Ryan listens to Trump and cancels the vote, moderates will be furious.
“Votes were pledged in order to turn off the discharge petition,” Chief Deputy Whip Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) told reporters Friday. “The intention is to fulfill it.“
But if Ryan holds the vote, the result could be catastrophic. GOP members who thought they could support the bill have already started telling leadership that they will no longer vote for it. They simply cannot go up against the president, they say.
That means the bill would likely fail in spectacular fashion on the House floor, a huge embarrassment to leadership and an affront to the rank-in-file who have spent hundreds of hours negotiating.
The vote could also endanger the lame duck speaker. Rep. Steve King, a vocal hard-liner, suggested Friday that some conservatives could try to oust Ryan with a motion to vacate the chair, though King was coy about why he thought so.
“We’ll have to see how that cooks over the weekend,” the Iowa Republican said. “I’m reading the tea leaves but I believe [a motion to vacate] is prepared.”
That could fuel a backlash, however. Members across the spectrum have praised Ryan for his work trying to find a GOP solution on immigration, working with all corners of the conference. Conservatives who then punish him could face their own political attacks from Ryan loyalists.
Trump's tweet suggests that the president has retracted to his original view of the bill. While the compromise legislation mirrors his own immigration framework — cracking down at the border and finding a pathway to citizenship for young undocumented immigrants — the president didn't like the word "moderate" being used to describe the package.
Ryan is the worst Speaker in decades since Gingrich
The crying Honduran girl on the cover of Time was not separated from her mother
Since 2014, more than 300,000 family units or unaccompanied minors have arrived illegally into the United States from Central America and applied for asylum claiming fear of gang members or violent husbands, etc. Most do not meet the refugee status requirements.
Two things
1) Perhaps the international community can do something to help the people of Central American that doesn't simply include moving them out.
2) If they do not meet the refugee status requirements, then their plight is probably not quite as dangerous as they are making it out to be.
"Facts make you laugh."
Your insignificance makes me laugh.
caliphate4vr said...
Speaker Pelosi will have a plan to replace the President.
2 assholes in a single post.....LOLOLOL!!!
Roger AmickJune 22, 2018 at 11:54 AM
We care about the children. You don't. You're heartless. U don't know how we don't like u. It's not Fake News. "
Alky swallows face news like stormy dainels.
caliphate4vrJune 22, 2018 at 12:49 PM
The crying Honduran girl on the cover of Time was not separated from her mother."
When will Liberals learn to Verify thier Hero's.
Turns out the mother of the Year. Left her Husband, took the youngest child against his knowledge/consent and, AND abandoned 3 kids at home.
Damn it Ette.
"Your insignificance makes me laugh."
That is "Latrine General alky".
Alky swallows "face" news....
The douche nozzle of kansas speaks, rather amusingly to boot!!! Still no job asshole???? You know what they say about idle hands....lOLOLOLOL!!~
When will Liberals learn to Verify thier Hero's.
THIER HERO"S.....
Drinking early today, asshole????
Who said the following?
Should they [children] be able to stay here? It's safer," CNN anchor Christiane Amanpour asked during an interview.
"It may be safer, but that's not the answer," _____ said. "We need to provide more border security in southern Mexico. They should be sent back as soon as it can be determined who the responsible adults in their families are."
"All of them who can be should be reunited with their families," ____ continued. "We have to send a clear message: just because your child gets across the border, doesn't mean your child gets to stay. We don't want to send a message that is contrary to our laws or that will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey."
caliphate4vrJune 22, 2018 at 12:49 PM
The crying Honduran girl on the cover of Time was not separated from her mother."
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