But perfectly acceptable to criticize a President in order to undercut his credibility?
The concept that we do not criticize our intelligence community because such criticism can undercut their credibility would be a wonderful argument, if the people making it were willing to engage in prudent restraint for the same reason.
The reality here is that all of this constitutional crisis nonsense starts and stops with people who simply refuse to accept the legitimacy of our duly elected President to be President. When you simply refuse to acknowledge that your side lost and the other side won, you hold no practical high ground in any argument... unless that argument is with a toddler who wants more cake or Labrador Retriever who refuses to give up the chicken bone that they dug out of the garbage.
When you have grown up enough to accept that things don't always go the way that you want them to, and that you still need to live with results, then at that time you would have some standing to make an argument on principal.
The day when you are willing to use "your own" logic about damaging credibility of our national leadership as it pertains to "you" criticizing the President, is the day you can justify the same argument about the previous leadership of our intelligence community.
But until that day arrives, feel free to simply shut the @*$& up.
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if i didn't know any better, i'd swear that you directed this post to one particular genius (137 IQ), self-proclaimed autodidact historian, alcoholic commenter who shall remain nameless.
Well it applies to liberals, pussy-hat wearers, leftist college professors, Hollywood elites and "#NeverTrump" conservatives.
The one thing they all have in common is a vested interest in the status quo anti-Trump.
Is it a criminal act to criticize the intelligence community as you seem to be saying, is not a criminal act. The First Amendment to the Constitution guarantees that even the President can do so.
You're avoiding the problem with Presidential power. Trump is clearly claiming that his power within the intelligence community and the department of justice are unlimited. And the only way to stop him from directing the DOJ to act out even illegally short of impeachment.
Yes this could lead to a Constitutional crisis because you believe that he is above the law.
that's it. shut it down and fire them all:
DENVER -- An FBI agent allegedly dropped his gun at a bar and another patron was shot in the leg early Saturday. Investigators said it appeared to be an accidental shooting.
Denver police said they were called to a report of a shooting at 2201 Lawrence Street at 12:45 a.m.
A woman who said she witnessed and recorded the shooting with her cell phone said it happened at Mile High Spirits Distillery and Tasting Bar.
In the video, a man can be seen doing a back flip, during which a gun falls out of the back of his waistband. The gun appears to fire when the man picks up the weapon.
"It appears an off-duty Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) agent was dancing at a night club when his firearm became dislodged from its waistband holster and fell onto the floor. When the agent retrieved his handgun an unintended discharge occurred, another patron was struck by a bullet in the lower leg," a statement from Denver police said.
The woman who recorded the video, who wanted to only be identified as Julie, said she smelled gun powder and saw a person bleeding.
"Everyone was kind of shocked after it happened because [the agent] kind of put his gun back away and then he walked away," Julie said.
http://kdvr.com/2018/06/02/fbi-agent-allegedly-drops-his-gun-at-denver-night-club-another-patron-shot-in-leg/
When the President does it, it is not illegal.
Richard Nixon May 1977.
You're all standing alongside Richard Nixon and now with Trump.
No, Roger you're claiming that any power exercised by the president is illegitimate and that the DOJ, FBI, and CIA are above the law and independent of the chief executive.
Your argument has no bases in law or the constitution.
According to the contents of the letter Sally Yates lied to federal investigators about the Mike Flynn probe.
Attorney Nick Short pointed out the former Deputy Attorney General’s deceit.
From the report…
On January 24, 2017, Lt. Gen. Flynn was interviewed in the White House by FBI.
The FBI operatives believed Flynn provided truthful answers.
On January 26, 2017, Sally Yates met with White House Counsel Dan McGahn and told him Flynn lied.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/leaked-confidential-letter-from-trumps-lawyer-to-mueller-on-jan-29-spells-doom-for-liar-sally-yates/
if i didn't know better i'd say that sally yates is a feckless c*nt.
You're avoiding the problem with Presidential power. Trump is clearly claiming that his power within the intelligence community and the department of justice are unlimited. And the only way to stop him from directing the DOJ to act out even illegally short of impeachment.
The Constitution provides that every person working in the executive branch does so as an agent of the President. So technically (like it or not) there is no independent authority of the intelligence community. They invariably all answer to the President. Not just this President, but every President, past and future.
All of which is simply red herring, Rog...
The President hasn't fired Special Counsel. The President isn't calling for any criminal prosecution of anyone. He is not sending clandestine paid agents to go follow around his political opponents.
He asked that the FBI Inspector General look into allegations (made by an awful lot of people based on a wide variety of questionable information) that the FBI did not use proper procedures, did not follow the proper rules, follow the proper guidelines in using this particular agent to go make contact with Trump campaign associates.
This is 100% exactly what the Inspector General is supposed to do. Every FBI agent knows that they can be investigated at any time. Heck, a cop shoots someone, and it's automatic that they go on administrative leave, and that someone looks into the shooting. You do something questionable, they know that an IG will look into it. It's supposed to keep them honest.
This is not a request for a criminal investigation. Nobody has to hire any attorneys. Nobody's rights are being violated. There will be no late night raids where crash down doors and wake up people in their pajamas. There will be seizing of Attorney client information.
Why do you see an internal investigation as such a problem, Rog?
Are you that scared of what they will find?
Because I think we both know that the chances of the IG finding wrong doing is probably about 1000% more likely than Special Counsel finding something substantial regarding Trump at this point.
We may have the most incompetent President in history, but under our constitution we have to put up with him for about two and a half years.
I'm not one of those who dislike him for political differences. He won the election. He gets to implement his policies.
He's pushing for a broad authority to act out in ways that pose a threat with the expansion of Presidential authority in history.
He's pushing for a broad authority to act out in ways that pose a threat with the expansion of Presidential authority in history.
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Good God man, give it up.
"As Inspector General, Mr. Horowitz oversees a nationwide workforce of more than 450 special agents, auditors, inspectors, attorneys, and support staff whose mission is to detect and deter waste, fraud, abuse, and misconduct in DOJ programs and personnel, and to promote economy and efficiency in Department operations. Since 2015, he has simultaneously served as the Chair of the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency (CIGIE), an organization comprised of all 73 federal Inspectors General."
Blogger Roger Amick said...
We may have the most incompetent President in history
this is why no one takes you seriously around here, alky.
seen the employment numbers recently?
how's ISIS doing these days?
is putin still doing donuts on the white house lawn?
how many pallets of cash has trump sent to iran?
how many prisoners has trump gotten released from around the world? all without paying ransom?
have you noticed that the DJI is UP almost 6000 points since trump's inaugural?
incompetent? not by a fucking long shot alky. and especially not by comparison to your magic negro 0linsky.
Why do you see an internal investigation as such a problem, Rog?
You are claiming that the President has the authority to use the agencies as he desires.
Are you that scared of what they will find?
No, because if Obama acted as you claim, he had the authority to do so as President.
He's pushing for a broad authority to act out in ways that pose a threat with the expansion of Presidential authority in history.
So the Administration who ordered the opposition Presidential campaign to be placed under secret investigation, and hired an undercover agent to snoop around their campaign members...
Is all fine and dandy with you?
But the fact that the President (who's campaign it was that was placed under secret investigation and had clandestine agents infiltrating their ranks) wants an internal investigation into the matter.
Is a constitutional crisis?
Really Rog? Have you lost your fucking mind?
Our esteemed leader has been engaging with me on the issues. And he's not referring to the former President as a magic negro. You're avoiding the use of the "N" word but we all know what you were thinking.
that's it. shut it down and fire them all:
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Hell, that's amateur night here in Virginia. Hell, Mueller ignored most detalied crimes.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/years-of-fbi-agent-crimes-detailed/
You are claiming that the President has the authority to use the agencies as he desires.
I believe "you" are claiming as such.
No, because if Obama acted as you claim, he had the authority to do so as President.
Actually as argued by WP and many others: Even legal actions can be deemed to be illegal if they are done for nefarious reasons. The FBI has the authority to investigate a wide variety of things. But they have specific rules, procedures, and regulations that they are supposed to follow. If they do not follow these rules, procedures, and regulations then they could be subject to a variety of discipline (that they are well aware of). People in the FBI understand that if they break these regulations for reasons that are found to be corrupt, that they will lose their jobs, and possibly face prosecution.
If you have done any reading on this subject (other than with the NY Times and Washington Post) you would know that (just for instance) that FBI regulations provide VERY SPECIFICALLY when a undercover human resource can be used. Their regulations are very clear, that such a resource cannot be used in the preliminary portion of an investigation (when they have suspicion but no evidence). The FBI rules and regulations provide that when there is simply suspicion that only the least intrusive means can be used to further investigate. There is a list of things that they are "not supposed" to do. Those means must product certain results before they can open the second stage of an investigation.
There is every indication (based on what the FBI has provided people) that they were using their "human resource" during the preliminary stages (against their own regulations). That is just "one" of the problems with the investigation so far.
At the end of the day, you simply don't want to know if the FBI followed the rules and regulations. You would prefer that the American public be completely "LEFT IN THE DARK" over the matter.
Why? Because if the FBI was engaged in nefarious actions, and an IG finds that they did not follow their own rules and procedures, that it will cast a dark cloud over the entire investigation.
For you this is 100% about Mueller's investigation of Trump. Because in your mind EVERYTHING is about Trump. Anything that would harm that investigation needs to be prevented AT ALL COST... even if that means not doing what everyone deep down understands is the right thing to do.
You are claiming that the President has the authority to use the agencies as he desires.
that's nothing short of a flat-out lie.
WE happen to be the ones eagerly awaiting the IG's findings.
YOU are among those scared shitless at what the IG will find.
it's always easy to tell when you're losing the argument, alky. you dive straight into the obvious falsehoods to try and make your point. and then when THAT fails it's ny times copy/paste time.
You started out with a false accusation.
So the Administration who ordered the opposition Presidential campaign to be placed under secret investigation, and hired an undercover agent to snoop around their campaign members...
There was no spy. Spygate is a fabrication that you have accepted as the truth. Its false.
You're clearly claiming that the President has the authority to spy on the opposition campaign without any remedy short of impeachment.
Yes, giving the President of either party the authority to use the FBI and department of justice as dictators.
Venezuela here we come.
You're devotion to Trump raises the question.
Have you lost your fucking mind?
The May jobs report is great news for everyone — except Democrats running for office
Friday's monthly employment report was great news for anyone looking for a job in America – unless you happen to be a Democrat running for Congress.
That's because voters who are employed are historically more likely to favor incumbents than those who are out of work.
With the jobless rate now down to 3.8 percent, Democrats in 435 House districts and 35 Senate races face a major challenge as they try to unseat Republican majorities in both chambers.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/may-jobs-numbers-are-bad-news-for-democrats.html
rrb I posted the information from the memo written by the lawyers for the President.
You're inability to read English is as bad as your ability to write English.
You're clearly claiming that the President has the authority to spy on the opposition campaign without any remedy short of impeachment.
of course. by awaiting an IG report that will likely uncover such behavior by the previous administration.
alky, at this point you're making a complete fucking fool of yourself.
CAsissy, atempted and failed to attack the patriotism of Cali and myself. Called us Nazi's on Memorial Day for exercising our right to vote in a free and fair election.
Roger...
You can argue whether or not the guy was a "spy" all day long.
It doesn't change the fact that everyone (including Comey himself) openly admits that they used a paid "human resource" to gather information from members of the Trump campaign.
So your continued assertion that this guy didn't exist, that he didn't engage with Trump campaign associates, is a stupid argument that you should simply give up on.
It also doesn't stop the fact that there was an ongoing investigation into the opposition campaign (that we now know included the knowledge and input of the President himself)... and that every bit of reasoning for it has completely fallen apart.
McCarthy's article today on the George Papadopoulos case is alarming.
You should branch out, Roger... and read it.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/george-papadopoulos-case-needs-closer-look/
And again Roger...
You are falling down stupid upset over the fact that the President requested....
An internal IG investigation. Which is a guy with a small staff who will quietly do his job for a few weeks or possibly a few months. Something he probably would have (or should have done) regardless of what the President requested. I am shocked (personally) that Rosenstein hadn't already ordered this investigated based on everything we know.
Compare and contrast with all the millions and million of dollars and thousands of man hours that we have endured investigating the so called "collusion"... that has now been going on for two years without a shred of evidence that any "collusion" existed.
Your argument has no bases in law or the constitution." CS
Roger lIke to make shirt up.
Nice white flag ALKY.
We may have the most incompetent President in history, but under our constitution we have to put up with him for about two and a half years.
I'm not one of those who dislike him for political differences. He won the election. He gets to implement his policies. "
Why have you given up on empeachment?
And the 25th?
Latest Jobs number have the Dems in a fit. Especially that feckless c*nt NannystateNancy. "Employment Numbers Mean Little"
On this week’s broadcast of CBS’s “Sunday Morning,” former President Bill Clinton said the political press went easy on former President Barack Obama because “they liked having the first African-American president.”
You're devotion to Trump raises the question.
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Facts be damned; this is personal for the Nazi.
You're avoiding the problem with Presidential power.
He is acting like a dictator.....get rid of the so called controls and I have it all!!! No righties see that as their heads a firmly buried in the sand!!!!
The May jobs report is great news for everyone — except losers from Kansas too lazy to work....
Friday's monthly employment report was great news for anyone looking for a job in America – unless you happen to be a Democrat running for Congress.
,” former President Bill Clinton said the political press went easy on former President Barack Obama because “they liked having the first African-American president.”
No he didn't!!!!!
**Why? "You know, I don't know. They liked him, and they liked having the first African-American president. And he was a good president, I think. I don't agree with President Trump's assessment of his service.**
CBS news, pussy.
National Review
Fake News
Read the memo Scott
The President is saying that the President has more power than either one of the branches of government.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/02/us/politics/trump-lawyers-memo-mueller-subpoena.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
It remains our position that the President’s actions here, by virtue of his position as the chief law enforcement officer, could neither constitutionally nor legally constitute obstruction because that would amount to him obstructing himself, and that he could, if he wished, terminate the inquiry, or even exercise his power to pardon if he so desired.1
He is claiming that if he's indicted, if that is even allowed he can pardon himself. He is above the law The President is the Commander in Chief.He is not the Commander in Chief of the Department of Justice. He is claiming that he could do anything he wants short of being impeached. Given the highly partisan nature of impeachment, any President can do anything he wants.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/02/us/politics/trump-legal-documents.html
From the memo linked above.
We express again, as we have expressed before, that the Special Counsel’s inquiry has been and remains a considerable burden for the President and his Office, has endangered the safety and security of our country, and has interfered with the President’s ability to both govern domestically and conduct foreign affairs. This encumbrance has been only compounded by the astounding public revelations about the corruption within the FBI and Department of Justice which appears to have led to the alleged Russia collusion investigation and the establishment of the Office of Special Counsel in the first place.2The Special Counsel acknowledged that he was aware of and understands this burden and, accordingly, has committed to expedite his effort.
June 2, 2018 at 4:35 PM
deep state email proof that the whole thing it to attack Trump. They were so frustrated that won the election they doubled down on the efforts to take down Trump. That is not backed up by the fact but that doesn't stop them from lying about it repeatedly.
The records and testimony we have, pursuant to the President’s directive, already voluntarily provided to your office allow you to delve into the conversations and actions that occurred in a significant and exhaustive manner, including but not limited to the testimony of the President’s interlocutors themselves. In light of these voluntary offerings, your office clearly lacks the requisite need to personally interview the President.
You really should read this and consider what any President in the future can do, especially if a Democrat won and cheated the system to win, he can't be charged. He could order investigations into Trump's financial history that he has kept hidden. Or even worse, the President would be by default a dictator, not a separate but equal but equal branch of the government with defined powers, no those defined by the President.
You really should read this and consider what any President in the future can do, especially if a Democrat won and cheated the system to win, he can't be charged. He could order investigations into Trump's financial history that he has kept hidden. Or even worse, the President would be by default a dictator, not a separate but equal but equal branch of the government with defined powers, no those defined by the President.
A MUST READ
**Why Democrats Become Racists.
Since the fall of communism this discredited secular pseudo-religion has merely mutated and repackaged itself invading many other secular/liberal causes like a virus. All forms of socialism/Marxism must have a victim class and an exploiter class in order to grow and organize. The cultural divide between the conservative white majority versus leftwing white minority means that minority must seek non-whites to build its power base. Class warfare doesn't sell, but racism does.
In Hillary Clinton's 1969 thesis 'There is only the fight...Analysis of the Alinsky Model' she notes of Alinsky's tactics: "Some of his critics compare his tactics with those of various hate groups such as lynch mobs..." (P13) Alinsky never denied this, but his tactics were seen from the point of empowering people on the bottom.
Leftists today under various names such as liberal or progressive have no intention of empowering those on the bottom whatever their race or color, but to secure expanded state power at the top for themselves. 80 percent of the whites in America oppose their agenda so they have to build a power base elsewhere. Alinsky and his ilk provides the answer.
First is the idea of identity politics and leftists in particular zero in on sex, gender, and in particular race in order 'to rub raw the resentments of the people' though inciting conflict, envy, and resentment. Race has replaced class.
Mass immigration has pushed blacks out of the workforce into poverty, has kept many poor Hispanics poor, thus allowing liberals to focus the rage and resentment against the white majority who opposed this economic genocide to begin with. By focusing on race instead of class they give themselves, as a very affluent class, political cover.
Seeing 'conflict as the route to power' they have to unite these legions of social malcontents and racial economic losers to focus on a common enemy and that enemy is the conservative Christian white majority they themselves so hate. In other words they promote anti-white racism as a way to unite their non-white useful idiot racial identity groups to expand their power. This nonsense is so engrained as to becoming almost a religion.**
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id5/marxism_racism.htm
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/02/us/politics/trump-lawyers-memo-mueller-subpoena.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
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Just NOT a smart man.
No wonder he can only copy and paste, he just isn't smart enough.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
You really should read this and consider what any President in the future can do...
actually alky, that was the very first thing that crossed my mind when 0linsky weaponized the IRS against his political foes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/02/us/politics/trump-lawyers-memo-mueller-subpoena.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
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Just NOT a smart man.
No wonder he can only copy and paste, he just isn't smart enough.
it's always easy to tell when you're losing the argument, alky. you dive straight into the obvious falsehoods to try and make your point. and then when THAT fails it's ny times copy/paste time.
I posted the memo racist rodent bastard wants beaners rot in the sun.
Next to the negro President
The memo
We express again, as we have expressed before, that the Special Counsel’s inquiry has been and remains a considerable burden for the President and his Office, has endangered the safety and security of our country, and has interfered with the President’s ability to both govern domestically and conduct foreign affairs. This encumbrance has been only compounded by the astounding public revelations about the corruption within the FBI and Department of Justice which appears to have led to the alleged Russia collusion investigation and the establishment of the Office of Special Counsel in the first place.2The Special Counsel acknowledged that he was aware of and understands this burden and, accordingly, has committed to expedite his effort.
The records and testimony we have, pursuant to the President’s directive, already voluntarily provided to your office allow you to delve into the conversations and actions that occurred in a significant and exhaustive manner, including but not limited to the testimony of the President’s interlocutors themselves. In light of these voluntary offerings, your office clearly lacks the requisite need to personally interview the President.
i know you posted it alky.
too bad you didn't actually READ the fucking thing.
man, when you get your ass kicked here you get really bitter.
oh look, you posted it again.
Sweet Jesus, what is the Nazi doing on a political blog.
Roger -
I read the letter to Special Counsel.
Every last bit of it was 100% constitutionally factually correct.
I am sorry if you don't like the fact that the President is actually "in charge" of the executive branch (including the intelligence community) but that is the fact, none-the-less.
The letter expresses absolutely nothing that isn't entirely true for any President. The President of the United States can in fact (and have in the past in fact) pardoned people who were under investigation, just to stop an investigation. The President cannot be charged with obstruction for firing the FBI director. The President cannot be charged with obstruction because he talked to the Attorney General about the Special Counsel.
The A.G. and everyone underneath the A.G. answer to the President. Again, sorry if that upsets you, but it's the goddamned constitutional law.
As much as you would like to believe that somehow the President is staking a claim to something he is not entitled to, it's simply not true. The NYT, WaPo, and everyone else is barking at the moon.
Lastly, if you bothered to actually follow the logic of the letter, it states very emphatically (and likely 100% factually) that all of the answers to the questions have already been supplied to Mueller... meaning that a subpoena would likely "not" hold up in court, if the President fought it.
Mueller needs to get back to what he was assigned to do, or he needs to put an end to things. This is not a banana republic where we simply appoint unelected and unconfirmed people to be provided plenary legal powers to do what-ever the hell they want. Simply because they don't like the President who was elected.
Credibility is not Giuliani.
President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said the Trump team's recollections about a statement made on an infamous Trump Tower meeting "keeps changing."
"This is the reason you don’t let this president testify in the special counsel’s Russia investigation,” Giuliani told ABC News Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos on "This Week" Sunday. "Our recollection keeps changing, or we’re not even asked a question and somebody makes an assumption.”
Giuliani was referring to Donald Trump Jr.’s initial statement last year about a meeting he had with a Russian lawyer during the presidential campaign.
President Trump personally dictated the first statement his son gave in response to reports of the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower between Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort with a Russian lawyer and her associates, senior-level sources told ABC News in 2017.
Every last bit of it was 100% constitutionally factually correct.
I'm sure in your narrow mind that is correct.....However there are some great minds, which you are not, that think otherwise....Even rudy has walked back some of the memo especially when it comes to unbridled power to halt any investigation.....Being in charge has nothing to do with acting like a tin cup dictator from South America.......
I think that you have been brainwashed.
But you don't know if because it works.
You want him to be a dictator to keep the evil Democratic party from regaining control.
By any means necessary.
Scott you want the elected President to be provided plenary legal powers to do what-ever the hell he wants.
What is most disturbing is learning trump dictated the Jr memo about the tower meeting....Didn't he deny he knew anything about it more than once???? Seems to me that juicy tidbit links Potus closer and closer to russia and their so called help. Just my opinion that the witch hunt is more than smoke and mirrors and trump is scared shitless of what will be released....not found, since it has already been around!!!
Roger...
Again, the President has not fired Robert Mueller and has no intentions of firing Robert Mueller. The President has endured four different investigations over a two year period.
The President is NOT acting "above the law" by requesting an I.G. look into the possibilities that our former intelligence community leadership didn't follow rules, regulations, and guidelines in their investigation of a Political campaign.
I am okay with both the President, his campaign, and the intelligence community being investigated.
Why do you believe that ONLY the President and his campaign should have to under go scrutiny? Why do you INSIST THAT COMEY, BRENNAN, CLAPPER, ROSENSTEIN, and MUELLER are all ABOVE THE LAW and don't answer to anyone?
**Scott you want the elected President to be provided plenary legal powers to do what-ever the hell he wants.**
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What an emotional retard.
Why do you believe that ONLY the President and his campaign should have to under go scrutiny? Why do you INSIST THAT COMEY, BRENNAN, CLAPPER, ROSENSTEIN, and MUELLER are all ABOVE THE LAW and don't answer to anyone?
If they violate the law they can be charged and tried and if found guilty they would go to jail.
If the President violates the law or does unconstitutional acts he cannot be charged. If he's indicted it will go to the Supreme Court. But even then the only solution is impeachment. I'm going to repeat the last truth.
**Scott you want the elected President to be provided plenary legal powers to do what-ever the hell he wants.**
I'm going to repeat the last truth.
What an emotional retard.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm going to repeat the last truth.
Something you all think is variable.....
Roger -
First you continue to blatantly lie about my argument.
I have never stated that the President cannot or should not be held accountable if he broke the law. I have no issue with the fact that a President can be guilty of a crime and be held accountable, as well as anyone who broke the law with in a campaign or administration can also face criminal prosecution.
A President could even obstruct justice, by bribing a witness, by destroying evidence, by lying under oath. But you cannot provide for a "special case" of obstruction for a President simply because a President exercises his authority in a manner which certain people do not like.
SERIOUSLY ROGER... has it escaped your attention that the President has been under investigation for over two years now, and has done nothing to stop the investigation, willingly turned over thousands of requested documents, and allowed pretty much every member of his campaign to talk to the investigators?
Are you really so obtuse as to not see that the President has cooperated in this investigation as much as any President has ever cooperated in any investigation of the White House in spite of no evidence that any crime was committed. Remember the Whitewater investigation and all of those missing Rose Law Firm documents that were subpoenaed but never turned over to Starr?
Did you forget that the original "partisan witch hunt" argument was a Clinton deal against Ken Starr?
Secondly you continuously ignore the second portion of this situation.
That the concept that Presidents, and members of their administration can be held accountable to the law INCLUDES members of the FBI, CIA, and DOJ.
Only one of us feels that certain people are above the law.
That person is you, Rog...
BAM. Roger the horse's ass gets body slammed
CBS Sunday Morning" with Bill Clinton continued.
"Mo Rocca asked, “You hear from Trump supporters who say, ‘You know, the press slobbered all over President Obama, he could do no wrong. And now this guy can do no right. What gives, that there’s a kind of whiplash?'”
Clinton said, “Well, they did treat him differently than other Democrats and Republicans. That was the political press.”
Went asked why, Clinton said, “You know, I don’t know. They liked him, and they liked having the first African-American president. And he was a good president, I think. I don’t agree with President Trump’s assessment of his service.”
The term "magical negro" was popularized in 2001 by film director Spike Lee.
Damn racist. Poor stupid Alky.
David Ehrenstein, a writer who happens to be black and liberal, wrote an opinion piece in March 2007 in the Los Angeles Times called "Obama the 'Magic Negro.'"
Educating the retarded left.
Trump has driven the bat shit left even more bat shit
Yep. And they want to "pivot" from Empeachment after screaming it for 19 months.
A president can’t obstruct justice? That’s not quite right, legal scholars say.
Matt Zapotosky 3 hrs ago
Trump is a President, not a King. Somebody better tell him.
“In no case can he be subpoenaed or indicted. I don’t know how you can indict while he’s in office. No matter what it is.”
— Rudy Giuliani, quoted by the HuffPost, suggesting President Trump couldn’t be indicted even “if he shot James Comey.”
I can see that the"pastor" is running on fumes.
PRESIDENT TRUMP is killing him.
ROFLMFAO !!!
And just look at Obama to see a president obstructing justice.
But it's catching up with him.
ROFLMFAO !!!
I pardon myself for all high crimes and misdemeanors committed against the United States of America. In that way I uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.
Jane the coward.
Jane, hb got the DNC Memo. Stop the empeachment talk until after the "Blue Wave" gives you Majorities in Congress.
Trump has committed no crimes.
But the Obama crime family can't survive any more transparency.
Show us the documents.
Who's your daddy?
Crowd cheers when valedictorian quotes Trump. Then reveals it was Obama.
America cheers PRESIDENT TRUMP
Obama ran out of ink
And his phone was disconnected.
ROFLMFAO !!!
Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani claimed Sunday that the President hypothetically could have shot the former FBI director to end the Russia investigation and not face prosecution for it while in office.
Giuliani told HuffPost in an interview that Trump's presidential power extends so far that "in no case can he be subpoenaed or indicted."
"I don't know how you can indict while he's in office. No matter what it is," he said.
And not one of you would give a shit.
Scott there you go again. I don't think that Presidents, and members of their administration can be held accountable to the law INCLUDES members of the FBI, CIA, and DOJ.
Only one of us feels that certain people are above the law. Me according to you. Another one of you glorious opinions.
What you're saying is that the President can literally walk down 5th Avenue and shoot every single one he can. And unless the Republican controlled congress can remove him from office he can sit down in the oval office chair and sign executive orders to direct the DOJ to investigate the Obama birth certificate scandal that got him the nomination from the formerly Republican party.
Can you imagine how you would react if President Pocahontas would direct the FBI surveillance upon the Republican party headquarters because she can do whatever she wants to do.
The only one who puts the country over personal issues is Roger.
Were you born in Kenya?
Can you imagine how you would react if President Pocahontas would direct the FBI surveillance upon the Republican party headquarters because she can do whatever she wants to do.
oh, you mean like how 0linsky weaponized the IRS to thwart the progress of his political enemies?
or how about my new NY AG? she's trying to find a way do do away with double jeopardy so she can go after dinesh d'souza AGAIN for the same nickledick "crime.":
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First it was Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
Then it was Scooter Libby.
Now it’s Dinesh D’Souza.
We can’t afford to wait to see who will be next. Lawmakers must act now to close New York’s double jeopardy loophole.
https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/status/1002267137287835650/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2018%2F06%2Fdinesh-dsouza-sounds-the-alarm-ny-attorney-general-wants-to-get-rid-of-double-jeopardy-to-go-after-me-again-video%2F
The investigation into the claims found that it didn't happen. Yet your obsession with the negro President is unabashedly insane.
, you mean like how 0linsky weaponized the IRS to thwart the progress of his political enemies?
The Gateway pundit. Bonkers on steroids. Infowars next?
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The investigation into the claims found that it didn't happen. Yet your obsession with the negro President is unabashedly insane.
a bald faced lie.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The Gateway pundit.
no alky, the twitter feed of my new AG.
you are really losing your shit. and since you're such a complete fucking asshole, it's really fun to watch:
What you're saying is that the President can literally walk down 5th Avenue and shoot every single one he can.
yep. that's it alky. trump is going to go for a little stroll down 5th avenue and shoot everyone. after eating a platter of dead puppies, of course.
cuckoo! cuckoo!
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The investigation into the claims found that it didn't happen.
then why did we the taxpayers just pay out all this $$$?
In a legal settlement that still awaits a federal judge's approval, the IRS "expresses its sincere apology" for mistreating a conservative organization called Linchpins of Liberty — along with 40 other conservative groups — in their applications for tax-exempt status.
And in a second case, NorCal Tea Party Patriots and 427 other groups suing the IRS also reached a "substantial financial settlement" with the government.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced the two settlements Thursday. The Justice Department quoted him as saying of the IRS activity: "There is no excuse for this conduct. Hundreds of organizations were affected by these actions, and they deserve an apology from the IRS. We hope that today's settlement makes clear that this abuse of power will not be tolerated."
It's "a historic victory," said Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice, a conservative nonprofit legal group representing the Linchpins plaintiffs. Sekulow, who is also on President Trump's personal legal-defense team, said the IRS agreed to stop "the abhorrent practices utilized against our clients."
The Linchpins case, in federal circuit court in Washington, D.C., has no monetary settlement. The two sides agreed to bear their own legal fees.
The consent order says the IRS admits it wrongly used "heightened scrutiny and inordinate delays" and demanded unnecessary information as it reviewed applications for tax-exempt status. The order says, "For such treatment, the IRS expresses its sincere apology."
In the separate NorCal case, plaintiffs' lead counsel Eddie Greim told NPR an IRS apology alone was not sufficient to end the matter. But he declined to reveal the financial settlement amount.
In the NorCal case, plaintiffs allege the IRS violated their constitutional rights by using tax information for improper purposes. The settlement still must be approved by the federal district court in Cincinnati, home of the IRS division on tax-exempt organizations.
The settlements may not put the fierce controversy over IRS conduct to rest, but they mark the most significant resolution so far.
The controversy began in 2013 when an IRS official admitted the agency had been aggressively scrutinizing groups with names such as "Tea Party" and "Patriots." It later emerged that liberal groups had been targeted, too, although in smaller numbers.
The IRS stepped up its scrutiny around 2010, as applications for tax-exempt status surged. Tea Party groups were organizing, and court decisions had eased the rules for tax-exempt groups to participate in politics.
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997/irs-apologizes-for-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups
never happened alky?
what 'never happened' was you knowing the truth before you commented.
idiot.
and i must say alky that cleaning your clock has never been easier around here. you are so fucking detached from reality i'm surprised you can survive each day.
trump has driven you completely mad.
What you're saying is that the President can literally walk down 5th Avenue and shoot every single one he can.
What you are saying is that you would like to see Donald Trump hung, Donald Trump Jr sent to prison for life, Jared Kushner flogged, and Ivanka Trump gang raped.
Nice Roger. You're absolutely sick to want these things.
That last statement is sick, Ch.
Trey Gowdy and others have pointed out that the President and his lawyers are making a huge mistake when they make it appear that Trump has something to fear, something to hide, from the Mueller investigation.
Just let it go its way to the end.
That's the point. There should be an end instead of an on-going never-ending witch hunt.
The public patients with the Mueller investigation is getting thin.
We no longer believe in witches. If the witch hunt reveals no witch,
Trump has nothing to fear.
Author Claims CIA Has Plan to Kill the President
Jerome Corsi, author of Killing the Deep State, told C-SPAN that the CIA is planning to kill President Trump.
Said Corsi: “The central premise of this book is that President Trump is the target of a coup d’état being undertaken by the Deep State, including the CIA, NSA, and other intelligence agencies that maintain a commitment to a globalist New World Order.”
Daily Beast: “This Corsi book does not have a mainstream publisher, as one of his earlier ones did. Instead, it has been published by a book division of the far right-wing Newsmax, run by Trump’s friend Christopher Ruddy.”
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Trump’s Phone Call with Macron Was ‘Terrible’
A call about trade and migration between President Trump and French President Emmanuel Macron soured last week after Macron candidly criticized Trump’s policies, CNN reports.
Said one source: “Just bad. It was terrible. Macron thought he would be able to speak his mind, based on the relationship. But Trump can’t handle being criticized like that.”
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Trump’s Mind-Control Superpowers
Jim VandeHei: “In our lifetime, no president has matched Donald Trump’s ability to summon the power of the pulpit, friendly media, and the tweet-by-tweet power of repetition and persuasion to move minds en masse.
“You see this in the silence of Republican critics; the instant shifts in GOP views of the FBI, Putin and deficits; and the quick, widespread adoption of his branding efforts around ‘deep state,’ ‘Spygate’ and ‘no collusion.’ We hear so much, so often that we become numb to what Trump is doing. This allows big things (such as fundamental shifts in governing norms) to seem like small things or nothing at all.”
“Trump and allies are floating untested legal arguments: The president can’t obstruct justice, or can unilaterally shut down probes of himself, or can even pardon himself. If you think he won’t try something unprecedented — and maybe get away with it, at least with Republicans — you aren’t paying attention.”
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How to Negotiate with North Korea
Politico: “Expect lies. Do your homework — because they will have. Choose your words very carefully. And have Job-like patience. Oh, and remember that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un considers himself a supreme being.”
“These are some of the tips offered by half a dozen of the select American diplomats who have actually sat face-to-face with North Korea’s mercurial and often maddening regime. They provide some guidance to President Donald Trump and his advisers as they prepare for a June 12 summit with Kim in Singapore aimed at convincing him to surrender his nuclear arsenal.”
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House Republicans Careen Toward Immigration Showdown
Playbook: “A petition to force a wide-ranging immigration debate on the House floor stands at 213 — five short of the requisite 218. House Republican leaders have been working feverishly behind the scenes to strike a compromise that would avoid the free-flowing debate, and instead give Republicans a series of circumscribed votes this month. The GOP has scheduled a two-hour policy meeting Thursday to discuss immigration.
“No matter what happens, these next four weeks will be dominated, in part, by the immigration debate that Congress has been yearning for for the last six years. This could be a defining moment for the GOP, and there is lots of skepticism that this will go smoothly.”
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Economists Worry About Possible Recession In 2020
“A group of top business economists believes the major tax cuts President Donald Trump pushed through Congress will give a significant boost to economic growth this year and next year. But they worry that by 2020, the country could be entering a new recession,” the AP reports.
“Part of the drop-off in optimism reflects growing worries about what Trump’s get-tough approach on trade might do to U.S. growth prospects.”
The Palestinians are animals.
**IRON DOME INTERCEPTS PROJECTILE AFTER TWO DAYS OF CALM IN SOUTHERN ISRAEL
Rocket alert sirens were activated moments earlier in communities in the Eshkol Regional Council and Kissufim bordering the northern Gaza Strip.
Israel’s Iron Dome missile-defense system intercepted a mortar shell fired from the Gaza Strip on Saturday evening while at least another two landed in open areas, the IDF Spokesperson’s Unit announced.
Rocket alert sirens were activated moments earlier in communities in the Eshkol Regional Council and Kissufim bordering the northern Gaza Strip.
A spokesperson from the Eshkol Regional Council said, "No projectiles have landed within Israeli settlements, at the moment we are scanning the perimeter and there is no knowledge of damages," said a spokesperson from the Eshkol Regional Council**
On this week’s broadcast of CBS’s “Sunday Morning,” former President Bill Clinton said the political press went easy on former President Barack Obama because “they liked having the first African-American president.”
The next shoe is coming and it will be ugly....no collusion if you ignore manafort was a russian agent......and now blames the FBI for being stupid...
http://www.newsweek.com/why-didnt-fbi-warn-trump-about-manafort-lewandowski-blames-agency-696604
An admitted pedophile who served 16 months in federal prison for threatening to assassinate the president of the United States is now running for Congress thanks to former Democratic Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe.
Nathan Larson is an independent candidate in Virginia who admitted to HuffPost that he’s a pedophile who bragged in blog posts about raping his ex-wife and fantasized online about having sex with young children.
Larson is also a convicted felon who wouldn’t be eligible to run for office in Virginia had McAuliffe not restored Larson’s rights to vote and run for office in 2016.
Larson was sentenced to 16 months in prison in October 2009 for threatening to kill the president..
” former President Bill Clinton said the political press went easy on former President Barack Obama because “they liked having the first African-American president.”
No he didn't you fucking lying asshole!!!!!!
Palestinian animals Taken Off-Guard by Intensity of Clash with Israel
After terrorist rockets began raining down on southern Israel this week, the Israeli military responded quickly and forcefully. Our friends at JNS tell us that the response was so forceful, that Hamas soon begged Israel for a ceasefire:
Hours after the latest Gaza flare-up drew to a close on Wednesday, defense officials were upbeat, saying Israel should be satisfied with the results. The officials said that Hamas, which has controlled the Gaza Strip since 2007, was taken off-guard by the intense nature of the fighting.
Islamic Jihad fired a barrage of some 30 mortars towards Israel on Tuesday morning, which triggered the most aggressive escalation since the 2014 Gaza war. According to defense officials, Hamas signed off on the barrage ahead of time so as to let the Islamic Jihad exact revenge for an incident earlier in the week, in which Israel killed three of its members when they tried to plant an explosive device near the Gaza border fence.
However, despite the initial green light, Hamas was taken aback by the large number of mortar bombs fired at Israel and was also surprised by the Israeli retaliation, which included some 30 daytime sorties targeting Hamas and Islamic Jihad targets.
Officials believe that Islamic Jihad dragged Hamas into a military confrontation it did not actually want. As a result, Hamas fired rockets towards the Israeli communities near the Gaza Strip—a step it has not taken since the conclusion of the 2014 war, not even in cases where Israel successfully destroyed cross-border Hamas tunnels (10 in total) or when more than 100 Palestinians storming the Gaza fence were killed over the course of several weeks in weekly border protests**
Jane, your economist are the same ones that told us about 4% gdp during the Lost Years.
An admitted pedophile who served 16 months
And someone who thinks there are good nazi's is in the WH......Sad....the convicted pedo can't vote, but can run for office....
No he didn't you fucking lying asshole!!!!!!
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Here you go pussy.
**asked why, Clinton said, “You know, I don’t know. They liked him, and they liked having the first African-American president. And he was a good president, I think. I don’t agree with President Trump’s assessment of his service.”**
Trump Says He Can Pardon Himself
President Trump tweeted that he has the “absolute right to pardon myself,” but says he has “done nothing wrong” in Russia investigation.
His assessment echoed that of his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, who offered an expansive view of the president’s executive powers during a series of interviews over the weekend.
Hey pussy eater ;....link They means nothing.....
Pastors for Pedophiles
Larson is also a convicted felon who wouldn’t be eligible to run for office in Virginia had McAuliffe not restored Larson’s rights to vote and run for office in 2016.
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Pardoned by a Clinton butt buddy.
We're all shocked.
"They liked him, and they liked having the first African-American president. And he was a good president, I think. I don’t agree with President Trump’s assessment of his service.”
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Nobody with any real sensitivity likes Trump.
Hey pussy eater ;....link They means nothing.....
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I wouldn't you if you were the last dirty skank-assed cunt on earth.
CBS news pussy.
We no longer believe in witches. If the witch hunt reveals no witch,
Then Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Rosenstein, Mueller...
all have nothing to fear from having an Inspector General make sure that they are following all rules, regulation, and protocol to a "T" and that there has been no inappropriate, partisan, nefarious, or otherwise problematic actions on their behalf regarding Trump and his campaign.
Nobody with any real sensitivity likes Trump.
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Who gives a fuck, skank-ass.
That last statement is sick, Ch.
Then we agree. Roger shouldn't believe those things.
I see the "pastor's" silence about the Democratic pedophile is eerily the same as Bill Clinton on his sexual activity in the workplace with a subordinate.
But boy can he spam and "comment"
What a religious pillar
ROFLMFAO !!!
We no longer believe in witches. If the witch hunt reveals no witch,
Then Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Rosenstein, Mueller...
all have nothing to fear from having an Inspector General make sure that they are following all rules, regulation, and protocol to a "T" and that there has been no inappropriate, partisan, nefarious, or otherwise problematic actions on their behalf regarding Trump and his campaign.
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Are they constantly yelling, "Witch hunt?"
Investigate away.
"Are they constantly yelling, "Witch hunt?"
Why would they, they are guilty as sin, know it and the facts are slowly dribbling out to prove it.
Let the facts dribble. The facts about Trump, the facts about them.
Facts about Trump collusion - Nothing
Facts about Obama Corruption - DOH FBI CIA still obstructing investigation, but dribble, dribble, dribble.
American people are tired of this as reflected in all current polling and it's trends.
The American people will be quite interested in any solid facts that eventually emerge.
Let the facts dribble. The facts about Trump, the facts about them.
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Desperate skank.
The American people will be quite interested in any solid facts that eventually emerge.
Then Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Rosenstein, Mueller...
all have nothing to fear from having an Inspector General make sure that they are following all rules, regulation, and protocol to a "T" and that there has been no inappropriate, partisan, nefarious, or otherwise problematic actions on their behalf regarding Trump and his campaign.
"
Spot on .
The American people will be quite interested in any solid facts that eventually emerge.
continued.
"Mo Rocca asked, “You hear from Trump supporters who say, ‘You know, the press slobbered all over President Obama, he could do no wrong. And now this guy can do no right. What gives, that there’s a kind of whiplash?'”
Clinton said, “Well, they did treat him differently than other Democrats and Republicans. That was the political press.”
Went asked why, Clinton said, “You know, I don’t know. They liked him, and they liked having the first African-American president. And he was a good president, I think. I don’t agree with President Trump’s assessment of his service.”
Another Inspector General Report due shortly.
Last one was scathing of Andrew G. McCabe, the former F.B.I. deputy director, accusing him of violating the federal law enforcement agency’s media policy and then repeatedly misleading investigators
FACTS we can stand behind, right?
I see the "pastor's" silence about the Democratic pedophile is eerily the same as Bill Clinton on his sexual activity in the workplace with a subordinate.
But boy can he spam and "comment"
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That's why we're here.
He thinks he's safe hiding out here. The scum couldn't be more wrong.
He signed a "code of ethics" oath.
Obviously, he isn't abiding by same.
There were indeed those in the press and media who slobbered all over Obama. He could do no wrong.
There are now those in the press and media who are slobbering all over Trump. He can do not wrong.
slobbering is left to pedophiles
CAKE BAKERS WIN
7-2 Supreme Court ruling in their favor.
the "pastor" weeps
MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
CAKE BAKERS WIN
7-2 Supreme Court ruling in their favor.
the "pastor" weeps
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Great victory!
Where in hell did you come up with this truly obnoxious idea?
What you are saying is that you would like to see Donald Trump hung, Donald Trump Jr sent to prison for life, Jared Kushner flogged, and Ivanka Trump gang raped.
Nice Roger. You're absolutely sick to want these things.
You believe that if the President committed these crimes and could not be arrested.
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