Friday, July 27, 2018

So Cohen is lying or lied under oath

According to CNN:
Cohen privately testified last year to two Congressional committees investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election. A source familiar with Cohen’s House testimony said he did not testify that Trump had advance knowledge. Cohen’s claims weren’t mentioned in separate reports issued by Republicans and Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee.
So it appears that Cohen is changing his mind about what he told the Congressional committees. Not only this, but he appears to be offering his testimony to Mueller, even though Mueller hasn't asked for it, and has basically outsourced the entire Cohen case to other parties. (Take the hint Michael). 

The reality (and this something CNN and others are having a tough time accepting) is that the Trump Tower meeting was not evidence of any collusion, criminal or otherwise. If it was, then Don Jr, Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner (to name a few) would all be charged with that particular crime. But alas, they have not been charged. Kushner's security clearance was approved. Mueller is not beating that dead horse. 

So either way, whether Trump knew beforehand or didn't is completely legally irrelevant to anything having to do with the investigation, especially considering President Trump has offered no testimony, much less sworn testimony on the subject at all. It wouldn't be Mueller's job to determine if Trump has provided honest or dishonest public statements. 

Certainly it would not be Mueller's place to take a side as to whether Cohen was lying then, or is lying now. 

59 comments:

Commonsense said...

Another 24 hours of drama that turned into nothing.

Rather watch the Twins beat the Red Sox.

commie said...

Of course you believe the trump side.....cohen is irresponsible and never tells the truth....sound familiar assholes????? All those years as a trusted confidant tossed away by trump.....who crashes and burns anyone in his way!

cowardly king obama said...

So you don't like watching Lucy pull the football away just as Charlie Brown (Roger) tries to kick it.

It is amazing how many times he has breathlessly thought this is the end of Trump. Sometimes multiple times in one day.

But not a smidgen of TDS.

ROFLMFAO

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If true.

At issue is the June 9 meeting at Trump Tower, during which Donald Trump Jr.; Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and now a senior adviser at the White House; and Paul Manafort, then Trump’s campaign chairman and now jailed facing charges of money laundering and conspiracy, met with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer who they expected to provide damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

Junior faces 5 year in prison. Unless he is pardoned by the President. Accepting a pardon is admission of guilt.

You have bought into the party line that collusion is not a crime.

The TDS epidemic is incurable.

Anonymous said...




Accepting a pardon is admission of guilt.


you have to find him guilty first alky. and remember, mueller is plowing this ground again on the word of cohen.

stick to obstruction of justice on twitter. that one's funnier.

as as for TDS, i know no one who suffers from it as badly as you.

Anonymous said...



You have bought into the party line that collusion is not a crime.


party line, alky?

show me the statute that defines "collusion" specifically, as a crime at any level of jurisdiction.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You are such a puppet. The party line is that collusion isn't a crime. You're too dim to see that if the President actually assisted the Russians attack on the election he would be a traitor

caliphate4vr said...

You mean the guy whose admin confirmed the the Crimea resolution this week?

Commonsense said...

So no crime that the sage of mahogany ridge can find. Though as much.

Commonsense said...

If collusion was a crime Ted Kennedy would have died in jail for colluding with the Russians (Then the Soviet Union) to keep Reagan from being elected president of the United States.

He should have died in jail anyway but not for that.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

President Donald Trump and Cohen have been calling each other liars.

Liars calling liars liars is what Trump hath wrought

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Cooperation with the Russians to alter the outcome of the election is called collusion. It is illegal to break into the servers and steal or alter the votes of the people. If the Trump campaign or the candidate cooperated with the Russians it is a crime.

Anonymous said...

Please give her more air time, more tv interviews and a Bigly Bull horn.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is great for President Trump and every Republican.

Anonymous said...

This is how radicalized ignorance looks
"alter the outcome of the election is called collusion"

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Ted Kennedy did opposition research. He didn't attempt to attack the election system.

Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit
Picking his way through the Soviet archives that Boris Yeltsin had just thrown open, in 1991 Tim Sebastian, a reporter for the London Times, came across an arresting memorandum. Composed in 1983 by Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the KGB, the memorandum was addressed to Yuri Andropov, the top man in the entire USSR. The subject: Sen. Edward Kennedy.

“On 9-10 May of this year,” the May 14 memorandum explained, “Sen. Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.” (Tunney was Kennedy’s law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) “The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov.”

Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”

Kennedy made Andropov a couple of specific offers.

First he offered to visit Moscow. “The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA.” Kennedy would help the Soviets deal with Reagan by telling them how to brush up their propaganda.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Then he offered to make it possible for Andropov to sit down for a few interviews on American television. “A direct appeal … to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. … If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. … The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side.”

Kennedy would make certain the networks gave Andropov air time–and that they rigged the arrangement to look like honest journalism.

Kennedy’s motives? “Like other rational people,” the memorandum explained, “[Kennedy] is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations.” But that high-minded concern represented only one of Kennedy’s motives.

“Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988,” the memorandum continued. “Kennedy does not discount that during the 1984 campaign, the Democratic Party may officially turn to him to lead the fight against the Republicans and elect their candidate president.”

Kennedy proved eager to deal with Andropov–the leader of the Soviet Union, a former director of the KGB and a principal mover in both the crushing of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and the suppression of the 1968 Prague Spring–at least in part to advance his own political prospects.

In 1992, Tim Sebastian published a story about the memorandum in the London Times. Here in the U.S., Sebastian’s story received no attention. In his 2006 book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, historian Paul Kengor reprinted the memorandum in full. “The media,” Kengor says, “ignored the revelation.”

“The document,” Kengor continues, “has stood the test of time. I scrutinized it more carefully than anything I’ve ever dealt with as a scholar. I showed the document to numerous authorities who deal with Soviet archival material. No one has debunked the memorandum or shown it to be a forgery. Kennedy’s office did not deny it.”

Why bring all this up now? No evidence exists that Andropov ever acted on the memorandum–within eight months, the Soviet leader would be dead–and now that Kennedy himself has died even many of the former senator’s opponents find themselves grieving. Yet precisely because Kennedy represented such a commanding figure–perhaps the most compelling liberal of our day–we need to consider his record in full.

Doing so, it turns out, requires pondering a document in the archives of the politburo.

When President Reagan chose to confront the Soviet Union, calling it the evil empire that it was, Sen. Edward Kennedy chose to offer aid and comfort to General Secretary Andropov. On the Cold War, the greatest issue of his lifetime, Kennedy got it wrong.

Peter Robinson, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University and a former White House speechwriter, writes a weekly column for Forbes.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Was it appropriate?

No

Did it break the law?

No

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If President Theodore Kennedy had been exposed by this behavior the Republicans would have been trying to get #impeachment

Kennedy proved eager to deal with Andropov–the leader of the Soviet Union, a former director of the KGB and a principal mover in both the crushing of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and the suppression of the 1968 Prague Spring–at least in part to advance his own political prospects.

The similarities between the President in Helsinki and Teddy Kennedy are amazing.

You would be screaming #impeachment you hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

Ranting while drunk again alky.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Six years one month and three days.

Your stupidity is incurable.

Commonsense said...

Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election.

Roger that is conspericy with a foreign power to throw a US presidential election. Is it not?

Anonymous said...

2018 social Democrat message.

Impeach Trump.

caliphate4vr said...


Six years one month and three days.


Is that how much longer Trump will be in office?

MAGA

Anonymous said...

Jason Furman, who served at head of the Obama administration’s Council of Economic Advisers, pointed out the underlying strength in a tweet Friday morning."

What not "soybean Based" bs.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Did the Obama presidency really happen or did I just dream that? I can’t reconcile that the same country whose citizens elected a brilliant constitutional scholar as our nation’s first black president could immediately thereafter elect this vile, racist, ignorant, bloviating ass.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Not according to you. It's just opposition research.

Anonymous said...

Funny that the people most upset by the Trump Tower meeting are the ones who don't have an issue with the HRC campaign using Russians to build the dossier

Anonymous said...

Awe, the alky needs a nap.

Anonymous said...

"The $12 billion dollar bailout will increase the deficit which is now at an all time record high." Bed wetter.

2011 Obama Deficit 1.31 Trillon.

Alky wearing beer glasses.

Anonymous said...

"Congressional Budget Office reported Monday.

The federal deficit — the gap between how much the government takes in and how much it spends — will hit $804 billion in fiscal 2018,"

Loretta said...

"a brilliant constitutional scholar as our nation’s first black president"

LOL!

Myballs said...

If obama was so brilliant he would've passed laws instead of doing everything by executive order, making it quite easy for trump to reverse it all.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Did the Obama presidency really happen or did I just dream that?



well alky...

considering the fact that trump dismantled the fucking thing in record time, i can see how one could think it was a dream and really didn't happen at all.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump’s tweets attacking the Mueller probe, along with his attacks on key figures in the investigation such as former FBI Director James Comey, could really come back to burn the president when used as evidence against him.

“In the case of the President of the United States, it’s perfectly plausible that his tweets could be evidence of (1) what he knew and when, and (2) what he intended when he did other things off of Twitter,” he writes. “It doesn’t mean the tweets themselves are a crime.”

Anonymous said...

"considering the fact that trump dismantled the fucking thing in record time, i can see how one could think it was a dream and really didn't happen at all."

Bingo

Loretta said...

"In the case of the President of the United States, it’s perfectly plausible that his tweets could be evidence of (1) what he knew and when"

Which tweet would that be?

Loretta said...

"i can see how one could think it was a dream and really didn't happen at all."

The Obama presidency was a nightmare that really did happen...

Commonsense said...

Trump’s tweets attacking the Mueller probe, along with his attacks on key figures in the investigation such as former FBI Director James Comey, could really come back to burn the president when used as evidence against him.

Obstruction by tweets? Mueller deserves all the ridicule he going to get on this.

This is a perfect example why the special councel is such a bad idea. This investigation has gone way past it's shelf life.

Myballs said...

Even cnn has a story giving credit to trump for the strong economic numbers. But not to worry. We still have roger here to tell us that its a temporary rise caused by something obama did four years ago.

Anonymous said...

Alky, are you sticking to your reason for 4.1% GDP?

"Soybean"

Commonsense said...

You'd think Roger would get tired of being the object of so much ridicule. Or maybe he's just that clueless.

Anonymous said...

I think Alky is that clueless.

Say g that soybean sales increased the gdp by 1.9 percent over 1st qrt 2.2 % is brain dead .

commie said...

In the short term, trade tensions may be contributing to growth by prompting foreign buyers to stock up on American products before their governments impose retaliatory tariffs. Soybean exports, in particular, have surged, rising more than 50 percent in May from a year earlier.

Over all, exports rose at a 9.3 percent rate in the second quarter, accounting for a quarter of the total G.D.P. growth. But the trend is unlikely to last: Exports will almost certainly slump in the third and fourth quarters, and will turn into a drag on overall G.D.P. growth.

commie said...

And don't forget the drag that the trillion dollar deficit will bring to the next quarter.....LOL!!

commie said...

I read somewhere that soy and corn exports accounted for 1% of the GDP growth.....yeah....that'll be sustainable......

Exports are a particularly dramatic example. Shepherdson says the Trump administration's ongoing trade fight with China is a big threat to the economy. But in recent months, the trade dispute sparked an unexpected short-term boost in exports.

"We saw an enormous surge in soybean exports," Shepherdson said before the report was released. And that gave the overall export numbers a big lift. That's because, ahead of retaliatory tariffs by China on U.S. agricultural products, China went on a soybean buying spree.

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But that boost in exports will now reverse because the tariffs have been imposed, Shepherdson says. And, he says, that will be a drag on the economy. "I think some of these components, which look great in the second quarter, won't look so great in the third, in particular the foreign trade numbers," he says.

"There's going to be a payback," says John Silvia, the chief economist at Wells Fargo. Both he and Shepherdson had predicted very strong second-quarter GDP growth of 4.5 percent or higher.

Still, Silvia says, "you can have a very strong second quarter," but growth will slow to about 2 percent to 2.5 percent as the export picture turn negative.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/27/632640711/u-s-could-see-blockbuster-economic-growth-number-today

Myballs seeing America become great again said...

US oil exports are at record levels.

Manufacturing jobs obama said were gone forever are returning.

Sounds like its more than soy beans

commie said...

From the national review.....every news source seems to be reporting that farm exports were a major driver in the 4.1% increase...

y a recognition of the impact of a shifting domestic political environment.

The strong 4.1 percent estimate, released by The Bureau of Economic Analysis Friday, is largely the result of a one-time export surge fueled by firms eager to offload inventory before looming tariffs come into effect and foreign buyers equally happy to avert paying higher taxes on their purchases.

Fearing the implementation of stiff tariffs on agricultural and industrial goods, foreign buyers drastically increased their purchases of American soy beans in the second quarter, bringing exports of the crop up more than 50 percent from last May and increasing top-line GDP numbers. Total exports increased 9.3 percent year-over-year, in large part due to the surge in soy-bean sales.

While the export surge undoubtedly played a role in the strong growth, the likes of which hasn’t been seen since 2014, a significant increase in household consumption — a solid indicator of economic health — also drove a good deal of the top-line growth increase.

Note to the idiot of kansas....all news sources except the ones you read.....dayum you are dumber than mud.....asshole

Maybe you can provide a link saying farm products did not help the GDP....again, I expect less than nothing from our resident jag off

commie said...

Sounds like its more than soy beans

And you figured that out all by yourself, genius??????

Why don't you break it down for us....you have an advanced degree in trumpism.....see above, it may help you....LOLOLOL

Anonymous said...

Notice how much we have to educate the left here.

Anonymous said...

"The Lost Year average gdp 1.833%

Take out the lost busch recession and what do you get?????


Trade Deficit Drops by 50 Billion.

And the deficit goes to 1 trillion and growing!!"

CBO disagrees, 2018 804 Billion.

Anonymous said...

Note also the open anger and Hate for the Americas doing Bigly Better under President Trump by working then under free-shit Obimbo.

COMMIE said...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinas-tariffs-soybeans-fueled-us-gdp-bump-225326578.html

The U.S. economy grew 4.1% in the second quarter, partly due to a burst in soybean and corn exports, according to economists. In May, the latest data available, soybean exports nearly doubled compared to in April. Producers were in a rush to beat tit-for-tat sanctions, soybean exports are up 26% for the year compared to 2017.

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The burst in soybean export has sent quarter GDP growth higher. (Screenshot/Capital Economics)
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In the second quarter, the U.S. recorded an 80% annualized jump in food, feed and beverage exports, mainly from soybeans and corn. Without that surge, exports would have increased 5.3% instead of 9.3%, which means the GDP growth would have been around 3.6%, according to Paul Ashworth, the chief U.S. economist at Capital Economics.

David Rosenberg, the chief economist of Gluskin Sheff, argues trade disputes may play an even bigger role in inflating GDP. “At least half the growth is coming from two trade-related issues — a soybean-led export burst and inventory accumulation. Net these out and we remain near 2%”, he tweeted on Thursday.

How sustainable could the growth

commie said...

CBO disagrees, 2018 804 Billion.


So that singular source which you provided no link for is not in agreement with other expert forecasts...

Note my links are noted conservative sources...unlike you who just made up the CBO value....again, kd the flaming asshole is bitch slapped like the moron he is....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2018/04/08/trump-trillion-dollar-budget-deficits-officially-begin-this-week/#6183db2f3365
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/9/trillion-dollar-deficits-return-under-trump/

Anonymous said...

1.833 % for all of the Lost Years.

Denise longs for those days and adding 1.75 Trillion to the National debt on average a year.

commie said...

And the fraud of kansas lies about the CBO....seems they too are forecasting trillion buck deficits for the foreseeable future under trump....I love cramming it up your ass kansas jag off.....It is so easy and I don't even have to lube up the 2x6 LOLOLOL!!

So much winning. Trillion dollar or more deficits for Trump’s entire presidency.

Donald Trump’s swamp is overflowing, because of the massive Republican tax cut scam that was lavished on the super wealthy and out of control spending.

What’s really scary: The $1 trillion may be on the low side of the CBO forecast. The deficits will most likely be even higher, since the CBO is assuming tax cuts will end and Republicans will stop spending.

Good luck with those rosy assumptions under the reign of Bankruptcy Donald and his Republican Party.

Keep in mind, under President Obama the deficit was actually decreasing and he was left with trillion dollar deficits, because of the Great Recession. This deficit is the doing of Trump and Republicans, under a significantly better economy.

The new U.S. normal of $1 trillion or more annual federal budget deficits will officially begin this week when the Congressional Budget Office releases its economic and budget outlook report showing that the deficit will be at least that high every year Donald Trump is president.

commie said...

1.75 Trillion to the National debt on average a year.

All thanx to the lost busch economic disaster....You lose again....still waiting for that link on the 14 T deficit......Again you lose......Idiot

commie said...

Hey asshole....what is the % increase from $587 to $804???

Anonymous said...




Blogger Loretta said...

"a brilliant constitutional scholar as our nation’s first black president"


anyone who declares our constitution a document of 'negative liberties' is no constitutional scholar.

no wonder his college transcripts are under lock and key. the guy was nothing but a garden variety shuck n' jive hustler with an affirmative action pedigree.




Obama in his interview disparages the Constitution as merely "a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf."


https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2008/11/03/barack-obamas-poor-understanding-of-the-constitution


the fucking asshole should've never been let within a hundred miles of the presidency.

someday a truly qualified black person will run for the presidency and will probably lose because 0linsky fucked it up for them.


Anonymous said...

Surveillance footage obtained and published by DailyMail.com shows William Mendoza, a former Obama administration official, following and taking a picture up the skirt of a woman in a DC Metro station, an act that cost him his job in 2016.

Mendoza was the executive director of the White House Initiative on American Indian and Alaska Native Education, a job that paid $140,000 per year, but resigned in November 2016 and pleaded guilty two months later to attempted voyeurism, which is a misdemeanor.



http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/28/video-former-obama-advisor-pictures-up-womans-skirt/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5997025/Obama-advisor-William-Mendoza-seen-taking-picture-womans-skirt-DC-Metro.html



gee, i can't believe the 0linsky nutsack polishing, throne sniffing, mainstream media completely missed this story.