- Prove there was a crime.
- Prove that Manafort benefited from those crimes.
- Have the person(s) directly tied to those crimes (Gates and Laporta) admit to them.
- Then have those witnesses testify to some degree or another that they either believed Manafort was aware (Laporta) or that Manafort was directing (Gates) said actions.
So one has to assume that the jury will have to rely heavily on what sort of trust they put into the witnesses the prosecution are using to tie Manafort to the criminal acts. Laporta was given immunity for her testimony. She admitted to knowing (or at least suspecting heavily) that tax returns and other documents she submitted were probably false. Not sure how damaging her testimony is, considering she dealt exclusively with Gates, and only "believes" Manafort had knowledge.
However, Gates is providing first hand testimony that Manafort was pulling the strings.This is obviously stronger testimony. But without any evidence that ties Manafort to the actual documents in question, it still relies heavily on the credibility of Gates, who has already plead guilty to these crimes as well as admitting to stealing from the company (that he and Manafort owned).
Obviously, the prosecution has so far spent way more time proving that there was a crime, and that Manafort benefited from it, than they have actually tying him to it. So far, there doesn't seem to be any paper trail showing Manafort actually performing any of the tax returns or specifically instructing the accountant on any of these incriminating documents.
I look for defense to make the argument that it was Gates all along that masterminded the tax plots, money laundering, and ultimately instructed the accountant (Laporta) to file false documents to the government. They will attempt (in cross examination) to undermine Gate's credibility. I would also suspect that they will attempt to impress upon the jury that the tangible evidence shows Gates as the point man.
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On a personal note, a good friend of mine was an attorney owned a title company that worked with various lenders during home sales. Their company was generally trusted to hold much of the tangible funds during the course of the sale. His business Partner apparently had been embezzling from those funds, and ended up moving millions to an offshore account that he never disclosed or gave up to authorities. The partner was found guilty and sentenced to somewhere in the vicinity of five years in prison, after which one assumes he could access the funds (unlike the movies, I doubt that local authorities were going to continue to monitor this guy after he got out of jail five years later).
The partner provided statements that claimed he worked alone and that John was not involve. But that was not enough to completely push authorities away from investigating him. My friend was never charged, although between legal fees, lawsuits from clients, and the fact that the company quite obviously went out of business, he was effectively cleaned out of everything he had worked for. An honest man who ran what he thought was an honest business, ended up sleeping on the couches of friends for months after the fallout, not able to afford even a basic apartment.
Now I have a feeling that Paul Manafort is not my friend John. But I do believe that it's entirely possible that in a situation like this, it's not impossible that one business partner is a criminal, while the other has no clue what is going on. So I believe that Mueller and gang must do more than just prove a crime was committed and that Manafort benefited. Will the sworn testimony of an admitted criminal (working to facilitate a lenient sentencing) be enough? I know if I sat on the jury, I might want some tangible proof of a paper trail connecting Manafort to the actual criminal acts.
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The defense will ask if you can believe an admitted liar.
If he is convicted The President is going to be very worried.
His behavior is apparent that he's worried.
Roger - If Manafort had anything to give up, he would have done so already. Why spend the hundreds of thousands on attorney's fees if you could just "cut a deal" and give up the goods.
The problem is that there is zero evidence anywhere that Manafort has anything to do with (or any ties with) Russia. And there is no allegations that anyone from the Trump campaign colluded with the so called "pro-Russian" groups from the Ukraine.
Roger...
Let's keep open the possibility that the reason that the prosecution is relying on testimony from Gates, is there is not actually any paper trail that leads back to Manafort. Or at least nothing that has been presented at trial as of yet. I guess it's possible that they have something. But if so, why rely on the word of a known criminal and known liar.
I would expect for the defense to ask Gates for emails, texts, intercompany documents, or something that shows some tangible evidence that he was directed by Manafort. Obviously they will be quite disturbed and surprised if Gates cannot point to anything.
Manafort must be some sort of criminal mastermind to have planned and committed all of these elaborate financial criminal schemes without actually doing any of it himself. Allowing the Accountant (Laporta) to actually commit the fraud at the specific request of another Company employee (Gates) with no paper trail suggesting that he actually directed any of it.
Perhaps he made Gates the "fall guy" in his scheme.
Or perhaps Gates was actually the one playing with the books?
Those are your assumptions. We don't know what or when anything illegal happened.
The trial isn't directly related to the collision aka conspiracy or objection to justice.
This is a high pressure game to get Manafort to speak out against the President. In many different ways.
You probably don't want to admit it but it is very apparent that the President is very very concerned. His tweet threw Junior under the bus.
The many games are going back and forth.
Gates is a criminal enterprise. His credibility is the biggest weapon for the defense.
Roger
I am not concerned that anything from the Manafort trial will get back to the President. There is literally no reason to believe Manafort has any information about the Russians. I seriously doubt that Mueller believes Manafort is some "key" to a giant conspiracy.
If you want my humble opinion, this is not about getting Manafort to give anything up, this is about ruining Manafort for whatever reasons. The FBI (under Mueller and Comey) had investigated these payments twice previously and didn't charge him. Perhaps they felt back then that they didn't have the resources to go after someone who had the resources to fight back. (recall what happened with Marcia Clark and Chris Darden when they went up against the team of lawyers assembled by Simpson). But now that they have literally unlimited funds, they could level the playing field and play hardball with him. I honestly believe that they thought they would get a plea of some sort. A notch in the belt, rather than information.
The Trump Tower meeting has been, and still is a dead end. If it wasn't, then Manafort, Jr, and Kushner would be facing charges. The only thing Cohen exposes is possible 'false statement" charges if he has any means to back up his claims (which he admits he doesn't have). If there was a possibility that someone like Mueller was going to come after "your daughter" I am sure you might react negatively towards that possibility just like Trump is.
You read "way too much" into every little thing. You refuse to accept that the obvious is most of the time the rational way of seeing things.
"You refuse to accept that the obvious is most of the time the rational way of seeing things."
Keyword: rational
It's Roger.
Blogger Loretta said...
"You refuse to accept that the obvious is most of the time the rational way of seeing things."
Keyword: rational
It's Roger.
indeed.
two things define the alky these days -
constant 'psychological projection' and the 'invincible ignorance syndrome.'
those suffering from either or both left rationality in the dust ages ago.
You read far to less into this investigation. You believe the motive is partisan. I believe that it is seeking the truth. Its not partisan.
His own actions have put his son in danger.
You read far to less into this investigation.
The investigation is what the investigation is.
The charges against Manafort are the charges against Manafort.
The meeting at Trump Tower was the meeting at Trump tower.
This is a high pressure game to get Manafort to speak out against the President. In many different ways.
ok alky, i'll bite...
please elaborate on some of those "many different ways."
i mean, manafort has been until recently sitting in solitary. if he had something to share he would've done so a long time ago.
so please, share your brilliance and give us your insights into the intrigue at work here, alky.
you love to pass yourself off as some sort of towering political intellect.
just once i'd like you to prove it.
But somewhere, somehow, someone must also must explain and rectify the past. For two years, the top employees of these agencies, most appointed during the Obama administration, have been engaged in unethical and illegal behavior, likely intended to throw the election to President Obama’s preferred candidate and then, after the election, to subvert the new presidency.
In other words, those who are warning of Russian collusion efforts to warp an election now work for agencies that in the recent past were doing precisely what they now rightly accuse the Russians of doing. The damage that Brennan, Clapper, Comey, and others have done to the reputations of the agencies they ran will live on well after their tenures are over.
The public will not be able to square such a circle — believe that the intelligence agencies are trustworthy now, while knowing they were deeply corrupt in the very recent past — unless there is some accountability for U.S.-government misdeeds.
For some reason, many still in the current FBI, CIA, DOJ, NSC, and State Deprtment are incapable of accepting that their agencies in the Obama years were weaponized to alter a U.S. election and were directed to do so by many top dogs in their Washington hierarchies.
Until we get the truth, an accounting, and some sort of justice, we will not quite become galvanized by those who rightly warn us of real Russian interference.
The reason?
We always expect Russian skullduggery, but we never anticipated election interference from those entrusted with protecting us and our institutions from our enemies.
The police were not policed — and so became like the enemies they warned us about.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
His own actions have put his son in danger.
nothing a presidential pardon won't handle.
the only one in danger here alky is you. in danger of being deeply disappointed when this coup attempt doesn't work out in your favor. but hey, look at the bright side - a bunch of those hollywood queefs just voted trump's walk of fame star off the sidewalk.
yipee.
The police were not policed — and so became like the enemies they warned us about.
at least when it comes to the FBI, they've been corrupt since the days of j. edgar. it needs to be shut down and every single employee fired with extreme prejudice.
Just VOTED.
PHOTO ID Required. Scanned, signed, voted, done.
Alky, your new Dude Rosie O'Donald said on CNN said Trump won because Putin changed votes in key State that swung the Election for President Trump.
To belive Alky, you have to belive two things with pug question.
1, " believe that it is seeking the truth." Only when it comes to Trump.
2, DNC ran by Hillbilly did no wrong.
And maybe trump will admit he is no expert when it comes to the economy...Gates survived the desperate cross examination...Yep he to stole money....but is that going to sway the jury with all the evidence that has been submitted?????
nothing a presidential pardon won't handle.
Yeah, that will help his approval rating....BWAAAAAAAAA!!! Major league rectum!!!!!
“Over all, we see this report as supportive of our views that the economy is currently firing on all cylinders,” wrote Bricklin Dwyer, a senior economist with BNP Paribas, after the new G.D.P. numbers were announced. But there was a caveat: Mr. Dwyer said that “growth is likely peaking. Indeed, in our forecasts, [the second quarter] marks a high-water mark for growth.”
For one thing, the initial jolt of the Republicans’ $1.5 trillion tax cuts, mostly for corporations and the wealthy, is wearing off. Corporations have bought back $437 billion of their own shares, which leaves them that much less to invest in new production, or wages. In fact, spending on business equipment slowed.
Then there’s the flattening yield curve, which the St. Louis Federal Reserve’s president, James Bullard, warns could invert late this year if current conditions persist. That means short-term rates, such as those for two-year Treasury bonds, run higher than long-term rates, like the 10-year bond, a sign of pessimism that is a well-known red flag. Recessions tend to follow an inverted yield curve like a stray cat looking for a meal.
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Purchases of goods drove about a third of that second-quarter economic increase, according to the St. Louis Fed. Consumers were in a spending mood this spring, an attitude that won’t necessarily continue. In the prior quarter, they kept their hands in their pockets. At some point, they were spending the banks’ money, though: Credit cards and other revolving loans had increased to an annual rate of 5.1 percent in June. A recent Reuters analysis found that the bottom 60 percent of income-earners have been fueling their spending, and thus the economy’s, by using their savings or credit cards. They almost have to, because wage growth is expanding at a disappointing 2.7 percent annual clip — despite evidence that employers are finally throwing a few more pennies at workers.
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The prospects for wage growth ought to be good, given the tighter labor supply. But American companies have made an art form of not sharing the wealth with workers. Productivity growth has vastly outstripped real wage growth since the 1970s, according to Deutsche Bank research. Yet employees are working harder and smarter and not getting commensurately remunerated, while corporations have a record share of the national wealth. That is to say, workers have been getting ripped off.
Inflation measured by the Consumer Price Index, which is up 2.9 percent over the past year, is absorbing some of those improving wages. Consumers are also running into higher gasoline prices — up more than 20 percent in the past year — thanks to rising oil prices, with the prospect of volatility in the Middle East not helping. Energy is excluded from the basic
Over all, we see this report as supportive of our views that the economy is currently firing on all cylinders,”
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WHICH IS BETTER THAN WHAT IT WAS DOING UNDER YOUR GOD!!!!! STUPID PUSSY TROLL!
So Gates has admitted that hr stole millions from manafort and bought a London apartment for a mistress.
Star unimpeachable witness. Lol. OK.
Anyone seen Denise?
millions from manafort and bought a London apartment for a mistress.
Ain't justice great!!!!! Seems if you have the goods on a bigger fish...you can get away with a lot of shit.....wonder what manafort really knows????? Great theatre especially about junior.....who as rat postulates will get a pardon from daddy!!!! Perfect for his poll numbers!!!
A rising CPI raises 63 million yearly income.
who as rat postulates will get a pardon from daddy!!!! Perfect for his poll numbers!!!
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NO ONE BUT A PUSSY TROLL CARES ABOUT POLL NUMBERS IN THIS STAGE!!!!
YOU FUCKING PUSSY TROLLS NEED TO GET A LIFE.
TRUMP WILL STILL BE THE PRESIDENT, FATASS HILLARY WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT AND YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER LIBERAL PUSSY TROLL SPOUTING SHIT FROM YOUR FILTHY MOUTH, DAY IN AND DAY OUT!!!!
Mr. Dwyer of who? (((BNP Paribas))).
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BNP Paribas is a French international
Stock yoy has gone from 68.89€ Today it closed @😥😥😦😢 54.51€.
Keep in mind $850 Billion repatriated??
Keep in mind $850 Billion repatriated??
And used to buy back stock from lazy leech assholes like you.....
And used to buy back stock from lazy leech assholes
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A SMALL PERCENTAGE YOU STUPID FUCKING PUSSY TROLL!!!!
I recall you saying you own a great deal of stock, so as the company you own, buys stock back your get richer.
Congrats, that stock is Northrop Grumman.
Dennis, repatriated money is on top of the $1.5 tax cut.
US company passed on bigger bonuses.
Northrop Grumman
High $356
😥😥😥😥😥😥😥 today $295 ouch.
Dennis, repatriated money is on top of the $1.5 tax cut.
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THE STUPID LIBERAL PUSSY TROLL HAS NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!
I know. But, Denise is my pet project to educate.
Looks like Roger got the Ohio Special Election right, Dem Won.
Ohio 12th is tied.
Up and down
O'Connor is in the lead the the Republican candidate is ahead. Bouncing back and forth
O'Connor is in the lead
Dem wins.
6% Joe Manchik GP 967"
Takes just enough votes to assure Dem. Win.
635 votes
The Blue Wave ?
155 votes
90%
O'Connor is ahead 155
1,031 O'Connor
I think he will win.
Republicans are still worried because they have held the seat for 40 years except for one time.
Ohio 12th congressional district
Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
49.9% Troy Balderson GOP 95677
49.5% Danny O'Connor Dem 94936
0.6% Joe Manchik GP 1102
Balderson is going to win
3,037 votes
Troy Balderson leads by 0.8 percentage points, or 1,685 votes, over Danny O’Connor with 99 percent of precincts fully reporting.
CANDIDATE PARTY VOTES PCT.
Troy Balderson
Rep.
100,044 50.1%
Danny O’Connor
Dem.
98,359 49.3
Joe Manchik
Green
1,120 0.6
Troy Balderson leads by 0.8 percentage points, or 1,685 votes, over Danny O’Connor with 99 percent of precincts fully reporting.
CANDIDATE PARTY VOTES PCT.
Troy Balderson
Rep. 100,044 50.1%
Danny O’Connor
Dem. 98,359 49.3
Joe Manchik
Green
1,120 0.6
99% in
100,053 R Danny O’Connor is my pick. Damn it.
98,345 D
Troy Balderson Rep.100,052 50.1%
Danny O’Connor Dem. 98,36 49.3%
The Republicans have held onto the seat by less than 1%.
Losing sucks but the fact is the suburbs are not going to as Republican as they were.
Ohio 12th congressional district
Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
50.2% Troy Balderson GOP 101574
49.3% Danny O'Connor Dem 99820
0.6% Joe Manchik GP 1127
You had zero say it Ohio. Unless you thought Pres. TRUMP, Was on the ballot, then this lose does suck.
But your 100% predicted score remains intact, wrong all the freaking time.
HuffPo had a blue wave Banner up.
HuffPo so silly, Blue Wave Banner Erased from site after Ohio defeat.
Ohio's 12th district special election100% reporting
Troy Balderson (R) 50.1% 101,574
Danny O'Connor (D) 49.3% 99,820
Joe Manchik (GRN) 0.6% 1,127
The provisional ballots will not be counted for ten days.
And ?
Your holding out hope the Dem can steal the election there?
Blogger KD said...
HuffPo had a blue wave Banner up.
they also had cankles polling over trump 98% - 2%.
puff ho, like the alky, is a fucking joke when it comes to politics.
KD the loser who can't find a job because he is a lazy fuck said....
today $295 ouch.
Asshole, let me explain something to the giant asshole of kansas....only if you bought it at that....OUCH!!!!!
As predicted.....liberals do have brains.....another trump talking point dashed....LOL
Democratic Party’s liberal insurgency hits a wall in Midwest primaries
Six weeks after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez toppled a powerful incumbent in New York, voters turned to establishment candidates over more liberal challengers in almost every closely watched race across several states.
Democrats lost another special election in which they heavily invested in.
There was no way for the GOP to win with the media.
If the GOP candidate won by 10% it was an "as expected".
If the GOP candidate lost it would be spun as a blue tsunami.
If the GOP candidate won by a narrow margin it would be spun as a Democrate victory.
The real lession is that the blue wave may be a mirage. Entrenched GOP districts remain entrenched no matter how much money the Democrats spend.
Also a big win for polling. They pretty much called this election. The people who showed up at the polls also answered the phone.
Your major holding , the one your rooster crowed about Denise.
Northrop Grumman
High $356
😥😥😥😥😥😥😥 today $295 ouch.
The polling"
How did the blazing inferno of economic stupidity whoreTez do with canidate she supported/campaigned for do last night?
A pyrrhic victory at best KD...Yep you won ...It turned into a trump contest and with his polls hanging in the low 40's, his coat tails are about as long as your dick....LOLOLOLO!!
This should have been a Republican cakewalk. The district hadn’t been represented by a Democrat in more than three decades. The Republican incumbent, whose retirement is why the special election was necessary, won in 2016 by more than 35 points. In that same year’s presidential election, Trump won the district by 11.
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And he and Republicans pulled out all the stops to help Balderson. The president swept into town for a big rally on Saturday night. Vice President Mike Pence made his own trip. And Republican groups from outside the district pumped millions into the race, hugely outspending their Democratic counterparts.
Even so, Balderson seemed to be barely squeezing out a victory. It’s a terrible sign for Republicans, a promising one for Democrats and a fascinating, revelatory turn of events on a night when the country’s mood in general — and voters’ attitudes about Trump in particular — came into slightly sharper focus.
Since his surprising election and the start of an administration with a metabolism and madness like none other, each special election and batch of primaries have provided a bit more information on what Americans make of it, whether they’re willing to put up with it and where the country and its political parties are headed. Tuesday night was another set of clues.
Blogger KD said...
Your major holding , the one your rooster crowed about Denise.
BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA! SURE ASSHOLE, JUST MAKE SHIT UP!!!!!! Diversified is the key....asshole....that holding was bought many years ago at substantially less expensive than now.....idiot...
I am sure these red state trump voters will thank washington for this.....just the start of things to come.....diots...
The tariffs imposed by President Trump have claimed more jobs, this time at a consumer-electronics manufacturing plant in South Carolina.
Element Electronics blamed tariffs on Chinese imports for its decision to shut down its manufacturing facilities in Winnsboro, SC, a town located about 30 miles north of the state’s capital. The plant, which makes Element TVs, will maintain a skeleton crew of eight workers, as it hopes the shutdown will be temporary.
The news is especially hard for Winnsboro and its surrounding communities because of recent job losses in the area, including the shuttering of a Walmart store, the closing of a textile mill, and the cancellation of plans to construct two nuclear reactors.
BTW...asshole...NOC has a very good dividend that was just declared....That income is a very nice check that you can only be envious of since your land holdings just cost you....LOLOLOLOL!!!
Denise is happy with his primary holding dropping $61 a share.
IF, You hold 1,000 your portfolio hit is $61,000.
Spoken like a postage stamp land holder.
All of my land holdings are debt free. They cash flow every year by producing premium hay. This year drought will move hay prices from 35 per 1100 lbs bale to $55 - $60 easy.
Stock NOC has lost Denise $61,000 she is pleased with a "the dividend yield is 1.45%". $1.20 a share.
Commonsense is right about the OH 12 spin. But the fact remains, dems heavily invested in this race and still lost.
Also, I think all of the Trump endorsed candidates won, including Josh Hawley, a very formidable opponent to McCaskill in MO. Hawley is current state AG, Yale grad and former law clerk to chief justice John Roberts.
"The tariffs imposed by President Trump have claimed more jobs"
Tariffs (increased taxes) on corporations are suddenly a bad thing to liberals...
"IF, You hold 1,000 your portfolio hit is $61,000."
He's a rich guy, remember?
He has a cabin...
The final House special election before the midterms became the latest to shift significantly in Democrats’ favor in the Trump era, after victories by Rep. Conor Lamb (D-PA) and Sen. Doug Jones (D-AL) as well as numerous other wins in legislative special elections and moral victories in other congressional special elections. The combined shift toward Democrats suggest a big surge for the party this fall.
The Republican candidate is ahead but he's probably going to win. The President may deserve some credit. But the seat has been Republican since 1935 with one exception. The district was heavily gerrymandered and the Republican won by one percent.
The Democrats have about 90 percent chance of winning the house. The demographics favor the Democrats. The educated woman and men are stronger for the Democrats than 2006. The enthusiasm in an off year election so far is far stronger historically.
The President is trying to blame the Fake News for the enthusiasm among Democrats.
The Republicans have been running on the platform of deep cuts in government and government spending. Once again you are seeing massive deficit increases and borrowing money from our rivals in the trade wars. What do they have to say this time?
Stock NOC has lost Denise $61,000 she is pleased with
Per KD....I haven't realized any loss or profit on my NOC holdings.....Isn't that a lesson you tried to make to me asshole??? You really are dumber than a brick...Why don't you calculate what I have realized from dividends through the years.....
All my stocks pay dividends...it is a very nice source of income......asshole...And what is your return on your land....a couple of pounds of potato's a pound of meat??? Your return......absolutely nothing!!!!!!
"IF, You hold 1,000
And if I had a million shares....nothing to worry about with trump in charge...LOLOLOLOLOL
Tariffs (increased taxes) on corporations
Asshole....consumers pay the tariffs with higher prices...and Lowretta slurps away and swallows!!!!
The Democrats have about 90 percent chance of winning the house. The demographics favor the Democrats.
political pontifications from the perennially wrong alky.
you know how to bet folks.
"consumers pay the tariffs with higher prices"
Consumers also pay the taxes with higher prices, rich guy.
"political pontifications from the perennially wrong alky."
LOL.
Ohio’s 12th Congressional District, which encompasses the northern suburbs of Columbus and rural expanses to the east, voters preferred President Trump by 11 points and GOP Rep. Patrick J. Tiberi by 37 points in 2016. But with the race too close to call late Tuesday night, those voters showed a marked shift away from Republicans. 1,764 votes.
The educated white women who have been voting Republican for years have completely recovered from the Republican disease. Trump was the anti-Biotic. More educated men of all ethnicities have been troubled by the President.
The Democrats have to achieve a substantial majority in the house to offset the anti(freedom caucus). They will have to fulfill their obligations under the Constitution to ensure the President does not exceed his constitutional powers.
This tells it all
"Ohio Special Election: Democrat Turnout 87% of 2016 Total — GOP
Turnout Only 40% of 2016 Total"
Huge effort by Democrats still resulted in loss. and next election this matchup won't be close.
Oh goodie, alky after a stunning defeat in Oh , oh, Ohio.
Moves to his Hurricane for Wind Blue Wave.
A pyrrhic victory at best KD.
A pyrrhic defeat for Democrats is a better description. They bet the farm on this race and crapped out.
The Republicans will hold Ohio 12 in November. But it is not going to be close because the enthusiasm among Democrats is not going away. Trump's base is not big enough to balance the enthusiasm deficit. Many people who have been voting Republican for years are now developing concerns about the country and the President. Events in the next 90 days may change the results. But if one of them is the Muller investigation report says the President and/or his campaign or Presidential actions were clearly illegal, who knows.
Oh goodie, alky after a stunning defeat in Oh
The omen you miss asshole is the under whelming turnout of R's!!!! The trump chumps showed up with little enthusiasm and I expect that to carry on as his stupidy is going to be on full display as he shows up all over the country and throws red meat to the despicables. That sure ensured that 1000 vote margin in crimson red district......oh well
They bet the farm on this race and crapped out.
The R's spent a whole lotta cash to maintain a seat for 2 months......With the NRA going broke and the Koch boys feuding with donnie....money ain't going to be a commodity the right has a lot of....Funny!!!
The highest-income and best-educated elements of the electorate — those deeply uneasy with President Trump — are showing the most interest in voting.
If this continues despite Ohio 12 or BECAUSE of Trump. The end result will favor the Democrats
Roger Amick said...
The Republicans will hold Ohio 12 in November. But it is not going to be close because the enthusiasm among Democrats is not going away.
enthusiasm? LOL. there's no enthusiasm for liberal policies. there's only trump hatred. if you were honest you'd admit at least that much.
Trump's base is not big enough to balance the enthusiasm deficit.
sure it is, for the simple fact that you have no idea how large trump's base is. trump's base is too smart to poll, as journalists like selena zito have reported. she went out and traveled among them. your favorite pollsters sat in their mid-town manhattan offices and guesses horribly wrong.
Many people who have been voting Republican for years are now developing concerns about the country and the President.
oh yeah? keep thinking that. financial issues win the day in politics and everyone who actually works for a living have more take-home $$$ under trump than they did under your dear leader. pay attention to how the issues actually poll. no one cares about mueller and russia other than political junkies. the economy and immigration still rule the day.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The highest-income and best-educated elements of the electorate — those deeply uneasy with President Trump — are showing the most interest in voting.
according to who? kevin drum and david corn/
i've got news for you alky - i know several folks - super high earners with professional degrees, who supported trump in '16 and will enthusiastically support him again.
your problem is you don't engage these people. you dwell amongst the loser alcoholics who need the nanny state to wipe their ass for them each day.
once again, you speak of which you know absolutely nothing about, "milk cattle" farmer.
The R's spent a whole lotta cash to maintain a seat for 2 months......
Actually no they didn't which is why they were sweating out this election. They were blindsided by the Democrats (again). I don't call them the stupid party for nothing.
The IBD/TIPP Economic Optimism Index continued to surge in August, gaining 1.6 points to 58, the highest point since January 2004. Americans feel better about their own personal finances than in any other month, save one, in the nearly 18-year polling history.
https://www.investors.com/news/economy/ibd-tipp-poll-economic-optimism-14-year-high/
but the super-educated, ultra-elite, really smart set are so smart they hate this president and give 0linsky full credit for the economy, because they're super-educated and really, really smart.
Actually no they didn't which is why they were sweating out this election.
Sure cramps....they spent nothing....LOLOLOLOLOLOL Money they won't have for November!!!!!
Outside Republican groups heavily outspent Democrats in the race by a more than five to one margin, hoping to blunt any momentum O'Connor had. Early vote results heavily favored O'Connor, but Republicans had hoped that a vigorous ground game could make up the difference on Election Day, and it looks like that it may have saved Balderson.
Actually no they didn't which is why they were sweating out this election. They were blindsided by the Democrats (again). I don't call them the stupid party for nothing.
well, it didn't help that that phony piece of shit john kasich worked overtime to sabotage the GOP candidate.
hit john kasich worked overtime to sabotage the GOP candidate.
Katich endorsed the asshole R and many are attributing that endorsement for the potential win.....asshole rectum....
WASHINGTON — A spokesperson for Republican congressional candidate Troy Balderson said Sunday he was “honored” to have President Donald Trump campaign for him despite Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s claim that Balderson did not invite the president to the Saturday rally in Delaware County.
[...]
Kasich warned that Trump’s appearance in Delaware County may damage Balderson because “the chaos that seems to surround Donald Trump has unnerved a lot of people.”
“Suburban women in particular here are the ones that are really turned off,” Kasich said. “It’s really kind of shocking because this (special election) should be just a slam dunk and it’s not.”
http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180805/balderson-wont-address-kasich-claim-he-did-not-invite-trump-to-central-ohio
like i said -
that phony piece of shit john kasich worked overtime to sabotage the GOP candidate.
that phony piece of shit john kasich worked overtime to sabotage the GOP candidate.
And the talking heads are calling out baldassari an idiot for not thanking Kasich in he victory speech since he was instrumental in the alleged win....not trump...Sorry asshole being a trump chump like yourself, a fact will never get in the way of your own stupidity...His fears are well founded, asshole...
I wouldn't be thanking Kasich for his "support" either. With friends like that...
The Republican win is really bad news, so says alky\Denise.
Omg, hopeless.
The Republican win is really bad news, so says alky\Denise.
Try to keep up asshole. I called it a pyrrhic win.....too stupid even for you.....you need a job, something to occupy your wasted day !!!!!! Thanx for being such an easy mark.
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