The Florida Department of State last week asked federal prosecutors to investigate dates that were changed on official state election documents, the first voting “irregularities” it has flagged in the wake of the 2018 elections.
The concerns, which the department says can be tied to the Florida Democratic Party, center around date changes on forms used to fix vote-by-mail ballots sent with incorrect or missing information. Known as “cure affidavits,” those documents used to fix mail ballots were due no later than 5 p.m. on Nov. 5 — the day before the election. But affidavits released on Tuesday by the DOS show that documents from four different counties said the ballots could be returned by 5 p.m. on Thursday, which is not accurate.
The actual behind the scene allegations was that Florida election officials were apparently attempting to allow people who voted by mail-in ballot to "fix" their ballots after election day. These notices were being sent to voters who had requested their mail in ballot from the Florida Democratic Party. Those who requested their ballots from the Republican Party or independent of other Party were not being sent these notices.
Obviously that is a concern as a matter of fundamental fairness. But legally, no vote is allowed to be altered or changed after election day. The fact that the official document was altered seems like a somewhat minor allegation in comparison to changing votes and ballots after election day.
I suspect this will not be the only thing that the Feds will be investigation surrounding this election.
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Note: Because certain people have been allowed to "correct" ballots after election, a Judge has ordered that "anyone" that had ballots with signature mismatches, must be allowed to make corrections through this Friday. I don't like this sort of ruling, as it quite literally goes against not only Florida law, but pretty much every standard of our election process. We simply don't allow people to come back "after" an election to change, correct, or otherwise "update" their vote.
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YAWN!!!! Maybe they will follow up on changing clothes trump says happened also...
Sure seems like another pile of crap to me.... As Scotty scrambles to rationalize how fucked up his party really is and will disappear as an entity as the old white men like you and Jowls die off...
In an email chain released as part of the Department of State's Tuesday document dump, Citrus County Supervisor of Elections Susan Gill last week told DOS officials that a voter who received one of the cure affidavits with the wrong date had also received a call from a number identified as the Tallahassee office of the Florida Democratic Party, an indication the party was reaching out about her vote by mail ballot.
"When I called it, it is the Democratic Party of Florida," she said in a Nov. 8 email to DOS officials.
She went on to write that she thinks the incorrect date was used because whoever sent the cure affidavit mixed up the deadline for cure affidavits with the deadline for provisional ballots. But, she said, "a bigger problem is the fact they actually changed one of the DOE forms."
That change to an official election form was what state officials turned over to federal prosecutors.
Another email included in the DOS document dump included correspondence from Okaloosa County Supervisor of Elections Paul Lux, who also said he believed the affidavits were from the Florida Democratic Party.
"Please pass the word to the FDP that they can't arbitrarily add their own deadline to your form or VBM cures!!" Lux emailed DOS officials on Nov. 9. "This is crazy!"
In a Tuesday interview with POLITICO, Lux said he received an email from someone sending a cure affidavit marked with the wrong date that included a Florida Democratic Party email address. The email does contain the email address votes@FloridaDems.org, which is associated with the party.
Caroline Rowland, an FDP spokesperson, brushed off the issue, saying the Scott administration’s election office was drumming it up as a distraction.
"The courts have already forced Rick Scott to drop a lawsuit after false claims of fraud, and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement rejected his desperate attempts to interfere with the important work of counting ballots,” she said in an email. “Now, Scott is once again trying to divert attention and resources from a smooth and successful recount."
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Scott has already won two lawsuits, and got armed police guards watching ballot boxes in Broward county on another (he asked for the ballots to be seized). So to suggest that Scott is just filing lawsuits as diversion, sort of flies in the face of the facts.
Considering Palm Beach just wasted another day with machine mismatch counting problems and the recounts may not end till next week, "smooth and successful" is not exactly how I would describe this.
If it was "smooth and successful" they would be done today as originally ordered.
"smooth and successful" means we'll keep counting until we win.
i still can't get over the fact that democrats are brazen enough and shameless enough to conduct this theft out in the open in the light of day.
Average age of Repuplicans in US House in Senate 53.
for Dems 57.5.
Dennis wrong yet again
"still can't get over the fact that democrats are brazen enough and shameless enough to conduct this theft out in the open in the light of day."RRB
They tried it and almost pulled it of in the Kavanaigh hearings.
Where did all those lying spanks go to?
The youngest current U.S. senator is 41-year-old Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas), who was elected in 2014. He replaces Chris Murphy (D-Connecticut) who was the youngest senator of the 113th Congress. The second youngest senator now is Cory Gardner (R-Colorado), at age 44, elected in 2014 like Sen. Cotton."
Average age of Republicans in US House in Senate 53.
Who was speaking of the House, You????? Asshole...
Your senate leaders are one step away from the grave and your old white voters are the dying breed as the demographics are catching up to your bigotry.........like you....asshole....
Don't start playing your asshole games idiot....Your side is dying and the base is aged and decrepit like you...
How old is Jowls? Inhofe? Graham??? Trump.....keep digging idiot..
Scott has already won two lawsuits,
And had 3 others dismissed...what's your point asshole?
So to suggest that Scott is just filing lawsuits as diversion, sort of flies in the face of the facts.
To suggest he is not is ignoring him screaming fraud in the state he runs....Dayum you are stupid today, Scotty....
Scott wins two lawsuits as he fights a blatant attempt by ...
www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/11/scott_wins...
Nice of you to plagiarize again CH....your truly are a fucking fraud...
I gave you both commie Dennis
"Average age of Repuplicans in US House and Senate 53."
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/the-gop-is-dying-off-literally-118035
A little dated, but it ain't getting better for your side....
It turns out that one of the Grand Old Party’s biggest—and least discussed—challenges going into 2016 is lying in plain sight, written right into the party’s own nickname. The Republican Party voter is old—and getting older, and as the adage goes, there are two certainties in life: Death and taxes. Right now, both are enemies of the GOP and they might want to worry more about the former than the latter.
There’s been much written about how millennials are becoming a reliable voting bloc for Democrats, but there’s been much less attention paid to one of the biggest get-out-the-vote challenges for the Republican Party heading into the next presidential election: Hundreds of thousands of their traditional core supporters won’t be able to turn out to vote at all.
The party’s core is dying off by the day.
Since the average Republican is significantly older than the average Democrat, far more Republicans than Democrats have died since the 2012 elections. To make matters worse, the GOP is attracting fewer first-time voters. Unless the party is able to make inroads with new voters, or discover a fountain of youth, the GOP’s slow demographic slide will continue election to election. Actuarial tables make that part clear, but just how much of a problem for the GOP is this?
The shamelessness and unapologetic audacity of this election fraud is no accident. The Democrats in Arizona and Florida and their allies in the establishment media piously intone that “all votes must be counted” as this fraud unfolds before our eyes, but they’re neither stupid nor naïve. It is much more likely that their very brazenness is not a bug, but a feature.
The Left is doing this out in the open to send a message:
There is nothing you can do. We will win. If we lose, we will cheat. We will lie. We will steal. And there is nothing, absolutely nothing, that you can do about it.
If the Democrats pull this off, they will have shown conservatives -- and the world -- that nothing could stop them. The governor of Florida couldn’t stop them. The courts couldn’t stop them. President Trump himself, who has been commenting repeatedly on Twitter about the theft, couldn’t stop them.
The election fraud in Arizona and Florida is a continuation of the Kavanaugh hearings. Just as the outrageously false allegations of sexual assault and rape against Brett Kavanaugh did, the election fraud demonstrates that there is no low to which the Democrats will not stoop to gain and hold power. They will even affect a self-righteous mien of moral superiority while stooping.
The lesson that conservatives are meant to learn is not just that the Left will stop at nothing, but that the Left is unstoppable. Republicans and conservatives can vote for “drain the swamp” candidates all they want -- but the swamp will not be drained, as those candidates will not take office even if they win.
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/why-democrats-would-dare-to-steal-elections-in-plain-sight/
Not a problem.
Thanks for your concern.
What's the point of having election law if the judges are making it up as they go along.
Commonsense said...
What's the point of having election law if the judges are making it up as they go along.
Like trump and scott screaming fraud? Cramps???
Commonsense said...
What's the point of having election law if the judges are making it up as they go along.
there is no point, and in a really fucked up way that IS the point.
"There is nothing you can do. We will win. If we lose, we will cheat. We will lie. We will steal. And there is nothing, absolutely nothing, that you can do about it."
the GOP is saying "wait... what you're doing is against the law."
and the dems are saying "SO? go fuck yourself."
and that's where we are. and why wouldn't we be where we are? there's no penalty for breaking the law. in broward county beetlejuice is basically just sitting there, giving everyone the finger, and crying racism/sexism at every criticism. and what's the worst that will happen to her? she gets removed? BFD.
this is why democrats have no interest in the sanctity and security of elections. everything that would act as a method to secure an election (voter ID, etc.) is seen by the left as nothing more than an obstacle to stealing an election.
and so we have early voting, vote by mail, provisional ballots, and so on, and so on, and so on.
we might as well turn our elections into a lottery open to all. and if you match 5 numbers plus the powerball you win the seat you bought the ticket for. i mean, if we're going to make a mockery of the process, fuck it - make the process wear the big red nose and clown shoes.
TALLAHASSEE — A day after Florida's election left top state races too close to call, a Democratic party leader directed staffers and volunteers to share altered election forms with voters to fix signature problems on absentee ballots after the state's deadline.
The altered forms surfaced in Broward, Santa Rosa, Citrus and Okaloosa counties and were reported to federal prosecutors to review for possible election fraud as Florida counties complete a required recount in three top races.
But an email obtained by the USA TODAY NETWORK-Florida shows that Florida Democrats were organizing a broader statewide effort beyond those counties to give voters the altered forms to fix improper absentee ballots after the Nov. 5 deadline. Democratic party leaders provided staffers with copies of a form, known as a "cure affidavit," that had been modified to include an inaccurate Nov. 8 deadline.
One Palm Beach Democrat said in an interview the idea was to have voters fix and submit as many absentee ballots as possible with the altered forms in hopes of later including them in vote totals if a judge ruled such ballots were allowed.
U.S. Chief Judge Mark Walker ruled Thursday that voters should have until Saturday to correct signatures on ballots, a move that could open the door for these ballots returned with altered forms to be counted. Republicans supporting Gov. Rick Scott, who leads Nelson by less than 13,000 votes in the recount, appealed the ruling.
The Democratic Party email was sent before U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson and his party allies filed a series of lawsuits challenging some voting rules that applied during the election, claiming they disenfranchised voters.
https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/15/florida-recount-democrats-launch-plan-altered-state-form-fix-ballots/2009178002/
Even CNN, politico and Jen bush think Nelson should concede.
Typical obfuscation....keep the lawsuits coming and see what sticks....Got to be those fraudulent D's trying to steal the election....want fraud go to georgia....Not having extension cords in a predominately black district is not a coincidence, it is malice and nothing will happen......typical
Jen bush think Nelson should concede.
SO FUCKING WHAT!!!!!! There is still going to be a manual recount and many ballots are still open with signature issues....the saga will continue until all votes are counted...Isn't that what you want, Loser?????
extension cords.
what a fucking moron.
Judge just said FL voting ends at 3:00 today.
want fraud go to georgia....Not having extension cords in a predominately black district is not a coincidence, it is malice and nothing will happen
So it's somehow Republicans who are to blame for black districts (run by local elected Democratic election officials) not being smart enough to have extension cords?
btw... you can get a 10'-15' extension cord in any hardware store, walmart, target, or probably most grocery stores for about $10.00.
It was Snellville
As of 2010 Snellville had a population of 18,242. The racial and ethnic composition of the population was 61.0% white, 30.0% black or African American, 0.3% Native American, 1.5% Asian Indian, 0.01% other Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 2.7% from some other race and 2.6% reporting two or more races. 7.4% of the population was Hispanic or Latino of any race.[46]
As of the census[47] of 2000, there were 15,351 people, 5,256 households, and 4,315 families residing in the city. The population density was 1,589.1 people per square mile (613.6/km²). There were 5,391 housing units at an average density of 558.1 per square mile (215.5/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 89.64% White, 5.39% African American, 0.25% Native American, 2.03% Asian, 0.02% Pacific Islander, 1.58% from other races, and 1.09% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 4.09% of the population.
There were 5,256 households out of which 38.2% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 70.3% were married couples living together, 9.0% had a female householder with no husband present, and 17.9% were non-families. 15.0% of all households were made up of individuals and 7.2% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.87 and the average family size was 3.18.
In the city, the population was spread out with 26.6% under the age of 18, 7.3% from 18 to 24, 27.4% from 25 to 44, 26.5% from 45 to 64, and 12.3% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 39 years. For every 100 females, there were 91.5 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 89.2 males.
The median income for a household in the city was $62,537, and the median income for a family was $68,341. Males had a median income of $52,340 versus $41,587 for females. The per capita income for the city was $26,131. About 2.1% of families and 2.0% of the population were below the poverty line, including 3.3% of those under age 18 and 5.0% of those age 65 or over.
Grew up a few miles away my grandparents owned about 40 acres there.
Judge just said FL voting ends at 3:00 today.
Same judge who extended to deadline to "fix signatures and other ballot problems". I think he's feeling more than a little burned by the Democrats.
btw... you can get a 10'-15' extension cord in any hardware store, walmart, target, or probably most grocery stores for about $10.00.
well, liberals have made it crystal clear that black citizens going to a local government office to get a completely free ID is a bridge too far, so how can you possibly expect them to go to wal-mart to buy a $10 extension cord???
you're a monster, CH.
The Gillum camp has been silent for the last couple of days. I suspect they see the handwriting on the wall. There's not enough fake ballots in the entire state to overturn DeSantis's lead.
If DeSantis's lead is outside than hand count threshold then they certify DeSantis as the official winner.
The only question is when Gillum will concede again if ever.
Nelson is in the same boat but his election will go to a hand recount. But even CNN concedes it will take a "miracle" for Nelson to win. And to most of the people in Florida that "miracle" will look very much like a stolen election.
The real statewide barnburner is the one no one outside Florida cares about. Ag commissioner could flip on a recount. They are now apart by less than a thousand votes.
CNN’S KING ON FLA. RECOUNT: DEMS ARE NOW HOPING COURTS ‘BEND THE LETTER OF THE LAW’
"The hope now for Democrats though is that the court has already shown its willingness to overlook or bend the letter of the law and would do so again"
KING: "Today questions of time and votes in Florida. The deadline to stop the machine recount now just hours away. Palm Beach County looks certain to miss it. Also this morning, more signs of what you might call counting creep. A judge ruled Florida voters with signature discrepancies now have until Saturday to validate their ballots. The rule -- ruling adds about 4,000 total votes to over eight million cast. Now, that's a small number. So small that even if everyone of those who's validated and broke for the Democrat, be too small of a number to erase the Republican lead in the Senate race. The hope now for Democrats though is that the court has already shown its willingness to overlook or bend the letter of the law and that would do so again.”
https://news.grabien.com/story-cnns-king-fla-recount-dems-are-now-hoping-courts-bend-letter
The real statewide barnburner is the one no one outside Florida cares about. Ag commissioner could flip on a recount. They are now apart by less than a thousand votes.
hmmm... someone needs to alert the duke bros.. this could impact the orange juice crop report.
Great movie.
CNN’S KING ON FLA. RECOUNT: DEMS ARE NOW HOPING COURTS ‘BEND THE LETTER OF THE LAW’
So far that has been a good bet.
If it wasn't for the state and federal judges in Florida the recount would be an orderly process and the state wouldn't be such a joke.
The only thing the they should have done was seize the ballots and machines in Broward and Palm Beach counties and place the count under court supervision.
That they didn't do.
honestly cs, i'm at the age where i'm starting to narrow down a list of retirement destinations. and everytime i'm tempted to put florida on my short list, shit like this happens.
i've been all over the state, both coasts, and the panhandle. perhaps you can provide some guidance as to where the pockets of sanity exist.
and every time i'm tempted to put florida on my short list, shit like this happens.
We certainly don't need your kind down here.....I understand Ga is looking for bigots like you....
honestly cs, i'm at the age where i'm starting to narrow down a list of retirement destinations. and everytime i'm tempted to put florida on my short list, shit like this happens.
i've been all over the state, both coasts, and the panhandle. perhaps you can provide some guidance as to where the pockets of sanity exist.
Well All I can say is we're not completely taken over by the Democrats yet.
Depends on what you are looking for. If you like fishing, beaching, and warm weather then southwest Florida (Naples/Ft Myers) would be a good destination. If you're more country oriented the the villages around Ocala might fit the bill.
Definitely avoid southeast Florida (Miami Ft Lauradale) and the Orlando area. For a big city (but not too big) the Tampa St. Pete area would be a bad choice plus the Yankees spring train there.
Both Jacksonville and the panhandle area get chilly in the winter and the panhandle gets more than their fair share of hurricanes.
Definitely avoid southeast Florida (Miami Ft Lauradale) and the Orlando area. For a big city (but not too big) the Tampa St. Pete area would not be a bad choice plus the Yankees spring train there.
Yeesh!!
Go to The Villages STD capital of the geriatric class
Paradise on the golf cart is their favorite tune.
Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members,
This mean the final arberter as to who won the election is the senate of the United States. Not a federal judge.
Huge building boom going on in and near the Villages....very NY ish....Always being courted by R's.....also...home of the dying breed of R's ...good to concentrate all the losers in one place!!!
In Broward, it appears that under the machine recount, BOTH Senate candidates LOST votes. Nelson lost 1,385 while Scott lost 606.
Totally incompetent. Need stronger vote protection including voter ID.
Need stronger vote protection including voter ID.
Just remember....Scott has been govner for the past years and did nothing...then he has the audacity to claim voter fraud on his own administration...does he think the r base is this stupid????
I expect there was some double counting going on during the trip around.
Mia Love is looking good in Utah
Everybody left her for dead. That would be quite a come back.
Huge building boom going on in and near the Villages....very NY ish..
Fatty's disappointed that there's no Golden Corral nearby.
Everybody left her for dead
Your asshole in chief wrote her off....that she didn't give him the love he deserved....BTW...provisional ballots usually favor D's and that seems to be the lions share of what is left to count...
https://politicalwire.com/2018/11/14/why-late-vote-counts-tend-to-favor-democrats/
BTW...provisional ballots usually favor D's
Yeah, wonder why that is.🙄
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