Saturday, November 3, 2018

Good and bad economy is not a matter of political optics

The Democrats’ Next Job: Bury Supply-Side Economics
Win, lose or draw on Tuesday, the Democratic Party will almost immediately turn its focus to the next presidential election and the fight between the establishment center and the left wing. But while the Democrats have that argument, they must also undertake the far more important task of thinking about what they agree on, and how they can construct a story about how the economy works and grows and spreads prosperity, a story that competes with — and defeats — the Republicans’ own narrative.
Republicans have a theory and a story about how the economy grows. You know it as supply-side economics: Cutting taxes, especially on the rich, and decreasing regulation will unleash so much innovation and economic activity that tax revenues will actually increase and the entire economy will benefit.
This has been the conservative story, which the right has elevated to veritable religion, for 30 or 40 years now. And the Democrats’ alternative story is … what? If you’re not recalling it, that’s because there isn’t one.
Let's be clear. The fact that Democrats have no good counter to the Conservative economic philosophy is not just a political problem, but a governing problem. A good economy is not something that randomly happens, while political parties offer campaign rhetoric in order to take credit or point fingers. Good economic results are a real thing that requires real economic policies, implemented with real action, and monitored with real governing oversight.

This is part of why so many economic conservatives are willing to ignore so many other political issues, while casting ballots for Republicans. There is clearly a lack of economic "seriousness" within the Democratic ranks.
They used to, once upon a time. It was called Keynesianism, or sometimes demand-side economics (which is why conservatives named their theory supply-side). Keynesianism — in a nutshell, government investment in public goods increase demand and prosperity — held sway from the 1940s through the 1970s, the greatest period of economic growth in history.
Then came stagflation, which opened the door for the supply-siders. Democrats, by and large, stopped talking about theories. Their story was discredited, so the supply-siders said. Democrats stopped defending public investment, and they stopped defending government.
Herein lies the fundamental problem with liberal or Keynesian economic policies. The simple idea that the Government can "create" a demand by spending money, is the antithesis to the idea that free market, along with private investment, allows the economy to thrive on the organic demand that already exists.

Moreover, nobody (who is serious) would suggest that government spending competed with things like the industrial revolution, the technology explosion, or any other major economic movements. Nearly every single economic boom in history was created due to the expansion of private industry based on some form or idea or economic principle that came from the free market.  Government didn't invent the light bulb, the phone, the automobile, computers, or anything of any real substance. They simply come along, after the fact, and attempt to regulate, monopolize, or otherwise grab a piece of these innovations by force.

The last major piece of Keynesian economic policy was the Obama trillion dollar economic stimulus package that promised an increase in economic stimulus, new business opportunities, and seven million new jobs. We got the slowest economic recovery in American history, most of the businesses the stimulus supported went under, and by the best of estimates the stimulus created about a fourth of the jobs that they believed it would. Even Obama himself admitted that the shovel ready work he believed was out there, really wasn't. The stimulus package was widely seen a resounding failure and was thought to be a large part of why the Democrats lost sixty three seats in the House, and six seats in the Senate.
It should be fairly easy for Democrats to say to Americans: Look around you. How has that worked out for you? Inequality is rampant. People fear being bankrupted by medical catastrophe (though not as much as they once did, thanks to President Barack Obama). Young people in college spend 25 years paying off debt. Young people not in college are working three jobs, none of which pays benefits or gives them steady hours. Your town is probably a shell of its former self, and some of your friends and relatives — all of them good, decent people — are in the grip of heroin or fentanyl addiction. This is what 40 years of market decision-making has done.
Yeah, it would seriously be easy for the Democrats to say this. Except for nearly everything this Tomasky (the author) is complaining about is not the fault of Republicans, and certainly not the fault of Trump and his economic policies.

The reality is that the economy is booming. GDP is high. Wages are up. Unemployment is at near record lows. Employment is at record highs. Business investment is up. Consumer confidence is sky high.

The fact that Democrats believe this is all wrong, because the Government isn't spending enough money to create demand for what Democrats thing we should want, is all the more reason not to take Democrats seriously when it comes to economics.

30 comments:

commie said...

Supply side policy has never done a thing but have the right rally around tax cuts for the elite donors and inequality for the masses!!! Did not succeed under Regan and will drive the debt to records that will choke the country.....but trump will have his and you will continue sucking....Working on cutting the drunken R budgets and getting fiscally responsible is something we all need to do and support....BTW CH that was the most disjointed screed you ever produced....you should be embarrassed...

Anonymous said...

Lol, ty Fake Indy.

Really, you made my day.

commie said...

LOL as our fat white asshole in chief shows his racism by chasing his dumb ass base like the goat fucker....and he keeps sucking......If I made your day, your life must really suck!!!! sashole


WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is in the final stretch of a 44-city blitz for the midterm elections, but the America he's glimpsed from the airport arrivals and his armored limousine is hardly a reflection of the nation as a whole.

The president has mostly traveled to counties that are whiter, less educated and have lower incomes than the rest of the United States, according to Census Bureau data. It's a sign that he is seeking to galvanize the same group of voters that helped carry him to victory in 2016.

Trump has largely eschewed the big metropolises for smaller cities. He has been to Tampa, Nashville, Cleveland and Houston — where the arenas could accommodate his crowds. But he's primarily been jet-setting to smaller places such as Elko, Nevada (population 20,078). Or, Mosinee, Wisconsin (population 4,023). Or, Belgrade, Montana (population 7,874).

When Trump stops at Belgrade on Saturday, historical records suggest he will be the second president to visit the Montana town named after Serbia's capital city. In 2009, Barack Obama held a town hall in Belgrade to promote the Affordable Care Act.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's the present was running strictly on the economy deeply doing pretty well. But is not even a boy brings up the economy he calls it in danger because of the invasion coming from Central America. His making people fear their people. Instead of making them feel positive about his policies which in many ways have list had reasonable go to effect.

He said hes making people get drawing it afraid of the invaders who happen to be Brown. Is a to be afraid hes going to leave the that sent the house for sure. But I think what we're having problem in understanding the voting pattern is who's actually going to show up it seems to be unusual from all the polling out there and right now..

He seems to be on able to strict dupe strictly the one thing that would quite possibly get him over the doc instead he can't do that for reasons we can't really understand.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I'm using the microphone right now I don't wanna explain why but the it's a little goofy but bottom line is his turn to get people mad and scared and that's always doing instead of making them feel positive and it's not going to work I think is gonna hurt him badly even in Florida Texas might go to the Democrat just keep an eye open and numbers are closing up the numbers closing badly up Cruz could be gone.

Myballs said...

Speaking of can't understand, care to try that post again?

caliphate4vr said...

BTW CH that was the most disjointed screed you ever produced..

And who would know more about...disjointed...screeds...than...you...fatty...

Off to eat a huge Tomahawk steak as soon as UGA dispenses with KY. Who did fdu play today? Sisters of the Blind?

LMAO

Commonsense said...

Roger is rubbing off on him.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump is running a negative campaign against the immigrants and he doesn't have the ability to do anything more to help save the Senate majority.

He's dividing not uniting the country.

The Democrats will win the house of delegates and a lot of governors. And depending upon what the millennium voters do might take the Senate majority with defeating Ted Cruz.

Myballs said...

Newsflash, the nation has been divided since bush v gore

Myballs said...

Dems don't have a chance in hell of the senate. And beto will go where ever Wendy Davis has gone.

Early voting is favoring GOP. They keep the house.

Anonymous said...

The Democrats will win the house of delegates " failed rehab alky

Anonymous said...

FIXED.

"negative campaign against the illegal immigrant".

And for the law.

Has Harris called USSC Justice Kavanaugh and ask for forgiveness?

cowardly king obama said...

The suspect in the vandalism of a New York synagogue was a Democratic activist and former City Hall intern who worked on anti-hate crime issues.

https://abc7ny.com/arrest-made-after-hate-graffiti-found-inside-brooklyn-synagogue-/4601480/

Who would gave guessed. Sure is consistent and even getting paid by the mayor. The party of hate strikes again.

Anonymous said...

Come on, just do It!
"“I mean, yeah. To me, it’s a no-brainer,” Ocasio-Cortez replied to Ramos. “Well, I believe that he has violated the law. Violated potentially many laws, whether it’s the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution because he keeps his businesses open that foreign actors kind of participate in financial transactions with. Whether it’s what we are seeing with potentially illegal buyouts of campaign, you know, FEC violations of women that he is trying to silence.”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is a review of Trump’s Economic Scorecard before the midterm elections.

President Trump started with a distinct advantage with a workforce of 145.7 million, 9% larger than when President Obama took office. If the workforce were to only grow by 2%, that would add just over 2.9 million jobs a year or 243,000 per month. Over the course of 10 years, there would be over 29 million jobs added.

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Additionally, over President Obama’s last six and five years in office after the economy had recovered from the Great Recession, the average employment gains were 2.42 and 2.48 million jobs per year. Pretty much on track to add 25 million over 10 years. So it appears that Trump can reach his 25 million job growth goal even if the economy continued to grow at the pace under Obama .

To provide a monthly comparison, the average employment gain in Obama’s last six years in office (after getting out of the recession’s impact) was 201 thousand. And the average for his last five years was 207 thousand, essentially the same as the 208 thousand for the first nine months this year.

This is an update using the October jobs report.



Over 2 million jobs added per year for the past 8 years

Below are the employment gains from President Bush’s last four years in office from just before the start of the Great Recession, through President Obama’s and so far through President Trump’s tenure.

Bush’s last four years in office:

2005: 210,000 per month or 2.52 million for the year
2006: 175,000 per month or 2.09 million
2007: 96,000 per month or 1.15 million
Last six months averaged 55,000 per month
2008: Negative 297,000 per month (recession takes hold)
Lost 3.6 million jobs
Obama’s eight years:



2009: Negative 422,000 per month
Lost 5.1 million jobs (teeth of the recession)
2010: 88,000 per month or 1.05 million for the year
2011: 174,000 per month or 2.09 million
2012: 179,000 per month or 2.14 million
2013: 192,000 per month or 2.3 million
2014: 250,000 per month or 3 million
2015: 226,000 per month or 2.7 million
2016: 187,000 per month or 2.24 million


Trump’s through September:

2017: 182,000 per month or 2.19 million
Through September 2018: 208,000 per month or 2.5 million run rate.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/10/30/two-charts-show-trumps-job-gains-are-just-a-continuation-from-obamas-presidency/#7dff72041af3

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

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Myballs said...

Roger still bragging about all the temp, contract, part time and low hourly wage jobs Obama created.

Meanwhile Trump is creating middle class full time permanent, even manufacturing jobs Obama said were gone for good.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Ford is going to have to get a rid of 220,000 jobs because of the tarrifs.

We have been working on the best recovery in history. Much of the good manufacturing jobs are not going get wage increases equal to inflation.

The deficit is approaching the GDP. If Trump wins the average income tax cuts will never be seen.

But he isn't stating anything about the economy. He's instead is claiming that we going to be invaded by rapist and murders. We know that he is lying about the families who are trying to seek asylum.

But you ignore his lies. R5

Myballs said...

Your post is factually incorrect. Wages are up 3.1%, highest in ten years.

Trump is creating manufacturing jobs Obama said were gone for good.

And all the tax cut doomsday rhetoric we heard from the left turned out to be completely wrong.

Anonymous said...

Roger is struggling with math, this economy and the Lost Years failures.

Anonymous said...

My balls. Remember on January 1st 2019 a Huge tax cut kicks in as higher exemptions get used on tax returns.

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Anonymous said...

Roger AmickNovember 4, 2018 at 2:47 AM

Ford is going to have to get a rid of 220,000 jobs . Wrong Roger


Roger, Please continue to post b.s..




"This statistic represents the number of Ford employees from the fiscal year of 1992 to the fiscal year of 2017. The Ford Motor Company employed approximately 202,000 people in the fiscal year of 2017."
Cite Statista


commie said...

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/trump-s-tariffs-have-already-cost-ford-1b-now-it-n917756

And what did you prove asshole....that tariffs are not cost Ford big bucks???? Please continue being an asshole, it is what you do with glee and abandon, goat fucker...Knowing your ineptitude, I doubt anything you post is factual....

C.H. Truth said...

Ford is lagging behind the competition, selling an anemic 32.8 vehicles per employee. Long-time rival GM puts out 52.7 vehicles per employee. But it's unclear exactly how improved efficiencies will impact potential job cuts.

The decision is part of Ford's $25.5 billion reorganization plan, which includes slashing $6 billion in improved capital efficiencies. Ford CEO Jim Hackett, who cut more than 12,000 jobs as head of office furniture maker Steelcase, had been expected to make cutbacks even sooner, according to some observers.

Sounds to me like Ford is having issues of their own, are not competing with other automakers, decided to "restructure", hired a CEO known for using employee cutbacks to help save costs...

and then want to blame tariffs.


It makes you wonder out loud how it is that GM and Chevy are not making the same cuts?

Anonymous said...




hackett announced back in april that ford going to stop selling almost all its cars except for the mustang...

On Wednesday, Ford dropped a bombshell during its Q1 earnings call: it's going to stop selling almost all its cars in the US. The Mustang will remain on sale, as will the Focus Active, a model that won't debut until next year. But kiss goodbye to the Fiesta, Focus, Fusion, Taurus, and C-MAX. Instead, the company will focus almost exclusively on SUVs, crossovers, and trucks in the US domestic market.

Ford President and CEO Jim Hackett cited the declining popularity of the car—which the company pioneered more than a century ago—as the reason for the decision. "We are committed to taking the appropriate actions to drive profitable growth and maximize the returns of our business over the long term. Where we can raise the returns of underperforming parts of our business by making them more fit, we will. If appropriate returns are not on the horizon, we will shift that capital to where we can play and win," he said.

As we learned earlier this year, Ford has redesigned Explorer and Escape SUVs coming next year, with a reborn Ford Bronco plus another unnamed crossover coming soon after. And it still plans to expand its lineup of battery electric vehicles and plug-in hybrid EVs, launching six by 2022.


https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/04/ford-to-end-almost-all-us-car-sales-focusing-on-suvs-and-trucks/


commie said...

and then want to blame tariffs.

And your opinion is what, CH.....opinion????? I'm sure Ford would love to hire your sorry white ass with great experience cleaning toilets for a jewelry chain and rat posting what is already well known......such douche baggery .....idiots....as you both trying to run a company you have no knowledge on....typical trump fellators...

commie said...

s you wonder out loud how it is that GM and Chevy are not making the same cuts?

Makes me wonder how you conclude that they are not discussing the same thing .....you really are very special CH especially since Chevy is GM ....LOL!!! Expert my ass...