Generic Ballot: The generic ballot is clearly where the talking heads are finding their conventional wisdom that this is a wave election in favor of the Democrats. They currently hold a solid seven point lead in the RCP average, which is considerably higher than either Party has seen at this point in any recent election cycle. Seven points is approximately the margin that the Republicans enjoyed in 2010 when they won 63 seats.
It's easy to assume that if the seven point average holds up and becomes the reality that we are looking at a similar wave. But the rub here is that while the overall polling average favors the Democrats, the more targeted battleground district polling is much closer, and in some cases have even favored the Republicans. That being said, if the battleground results turn out to be fairly even, there is still a good chance that the Democrats can win the twenty three seats necessary. But we would not be looking at the large wave election that some are projecting.
Congressional Seat polling: Individual district polling is always a headache because your potential sample size is very small. But what makes it even more difficult this year is trying to gauge voter enthusiasm. If (as I suspect) these pollsters are taking into account the generic ballot polling and other voter enthusiasm polls to help model their final weighing of anticipated turnout, they could end up being skewed. Moreover, pollsters seem to be quickly expanding their polling districts into areas where they have no previous experience in polling. It doesn't mean that all of this polling is wrong, it's just that the level of confidence cannot possibly be as high as it has been in past years.
Senate Seat Polling: In many ways the larger state polls of these individual Senate races has been anything but consistent with the generic ballot polling. If all you saw was these Senate polls this year, you might believe that this is a typical year where you see a bunch of close races in a bunch of battleground states. In fact, you would see the Senate polling largely in line with where these same contests were at back in 2012 (which was a year that Democrats held a national congressional voting advantage of just over one percent and picked up two Senate and eight House seats). There would be nothing from these Senate races that would reflect any sort of wave in either direction.
Senate polling of Texas, Tennessee, and Mississippi: In a normal year, I doubt that anyone would be taking a lot of time polling any of these states. There really isn't any good reason to see any of these Republicans loose in these deep red states. But the Democrats started out needing to pick up two seats to win back control of the Senate, and are currently looking at almost a sure loss of a seat in North Dakota. With only two "good" chances to pick up seats (Nevada and Arizona) the Democratic Party needs another seat to get to 51. Texas, Tennessee, and Mississippi are the best chances of the other seven seats. So IMHO the media narrative "requires" that pollsters find the remaining possible pick up and start polling.
In Texas for example, we have had fifteen polls in October alone (in fact, four different Democratic Pollsters are polling in Texas). Yet, not a single poll is showing Ted Cruz losing and he is actually polling over fifty percent on average. But the issue here is that when you do that much polling, with that many pollsters, and with that many partisan pollsters, you are bound to find an outlier or two that seems to provide some hope. I suspect it's a false hope.
Early voting: If you look at the early voting (which is probably the single most reliable tangible statistic we have) you actually see a slight lead by the Republicans overall, and a slightly larger lead in the states where there are close Senate races. Going strictly by the Early voting, this election would appear to be somewhere in between the 2014 and 2016 elections, both obviously going much better for Republicans than they did for Democrats. Now quite obviously, that doesn't mean that election day voting is going to favor Republicans or that we will see Republicans gains like we did in 2014 and 2016. But our early voting numbers do not reinforce the idea that we are looking at a big blue wave.
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Two possible scenarios: The first is the obvious narrative that we have been hearing for months, which is a the national vote results right around where the generic ballot is showing. This would lead to significant Democrat gains in the house (thirtyfive to fortyfive range), and a reasonable result for Democrats in the Senate (even or even a net pickup of one). This scenario is backed up by the strong generic ballot, the perceived strong voter enthusiasm of the Democratic rank and file, and strong congressional seat polling.
The second scenario is that we see another closely fought election, with the national vote results much closer than the generic ballot polling is suggesting. This would lead to muted gains for the Democrats in the House (ten to twenty range), and a good result in the Senate for the Republicans (net gains of two or three seats). This scenario would be backed up by Senate polling, as well as early voting numbers.
Most likely scenario: I am going to go out on a big limb and say that the end results will likely fall down somewhere in the middle of these two scenarios. My gut feeling is that this will be a good House election for the Democrats, but not quite the wave that some are expecting. I believe that they will probably win garner around a twenty five to thirty seat pick up in the house. Democrats will take control of the House with between 220-225 seats.
I kind of expect that most of the Senate seats will go one way or the other (albeit frustratingly close across the board), and I believe it is more likely than not that it will be the Democrats what win most of those battleground seats. I believe that the most likely outcome will be a wash or a pickup of one (by either party). Republicans will keep control of the Senate with 50-52 seats.
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I predict paybacks will be a bitch for you and trump....I hope you enjoyed your ride, getting basically nothing but partisan bills passed and no real movement to civility from white nationalists Duke lovers like you...
Another predictor might be the huge crowds trump has been drawing. GOP voters are more motivated that they were six months ago.
GOP voters are more motivated that they were six months ago.
Doesn't take much to get you motivated...Just believe his BS lies and you are golden,....Like a women I saw this morning giving the reason why she was to vote R.......THE D'S ARE FINANCING THE CARAVAN MEMBERS....!!!!! Dumber than you, ballz....could be your wife though...
Trump and his people have been very smart about the optics of their rallies by picking locations where Trump is popular and venues that were large enough to hold a crowd but not too big to have embarrassingly empty seats.
So while Trumps crowds are indicative of enthusiasm, I would caution people from reading too much into it.
rump and his people have been very smart about the optics of their rallies by" keeping the background white with lots of blond kids...
Yeah, I noticed the optics of the crowd and his inciting those low brow uneducated white folks into think there is an invasion and concertina wire is beautiful thing to keep those barefoot kids and women at bay....
My election "guess"
Senate 57 Repubs
House 222 Repubs
New Dem Minority Leader
Shocks the World
Caravan turns around
Fake News gives Fake apologies
bwtfkik
Very interesting set of last polls....especially in Mo....D' been running behind forever and now this....shocking...
Florida Senate - Scott vs. Nelson NBC News/Marist Nelson 50, Scott 46 Nelson +4
Florida Senate - Scott vs. Nelson Quinnipiac Nelson 51, Scott 44 Nelson +7
Missouri Senate - Hawley vs. McCaskill NBC News/Marist Hawley 47, McCaskill 50 McCaskill +3
Florida Senate - Scott vs. Nelson St. Pete Polls Nelson 50, Scott 46 Nelson +4
Who knows with this volatility....Keep Yaking donnie....people may have had enough of your crap!!!!
Wow....maybe the charismatic Gillum can drag the watch paint dry Nelson to the finish line and we can all get rid of the turtle in a Navy hat forever.....!!!!
lorida Governor - DeSantis vs. Gillum NBC News/Marist Gillum 50, DeSantis 46 Gillum +4
Florida Governor - DeSantis vs. Gillum Quinnipiac Gillum 50, DeSantis 43 Gillum +7
Florida Governor - DeSantis vs. Gillum St. Pete Polls Gillum 50, DeSantis 45 Gillum +5
33 House Democrats seat pick increasingly likely.
The Senate majority the number of voters who wait until the election day is so volatile.
53 GOP but I could change my mind.
Couple going other way...
The POLITICO/Morning Consult poll was conducted in between those two surveys, from Oct. 30-Nov. 2. Democrats’ 3-point lead among all registered voters is down from an 8-point lead in the previous poll, which was conducted Oct. 25-30.
Rasmussen generic now has Repubs +1...
Like CHT says anything could happen (and likely will)
So while Trumps crowds are indicative of enthusiasm, I would caution people from reading too much into it.
agreed, but at the same time 0linsky couldn't fill a high school gym in milwaukee.
so i would say there is something of an enthusiasm gap. having said that, the prospect of the dems taking back the house is very real. logic would dictate that there's no way in hell it happens, but we're talking about an american electorate stupid enough to fall for the con that was 0linsky not just once but TWICE. and the promise of free shit remains as powerful as ever.
there's no shortage of alky's and dennis' out there. idiots prepared to give power to the likes of waters, schiff and pelosi.
Rasmussen generic now has Repubs +1...
Has been an outlier from day 1.....especially the approval #'s.....last 3 I've seen had him at 41, 43, 39.....not sure if that is a trend or not, but it sure is not 45% you all are praying for.....
Ted Cruz and Marsha Blackburn both have six point leads but cook still has them as tossup.
Why can't any of these people be objective?
but at the same time 0linsky couldn't fill a high school gym in milwaukee.
SO FUCKING WHAT.....He's not POTUS race baiting idiots like you, the david duke lover....
Ted Cruz and Marsha Blackburn both have six point leads but cook still has them as tossup.
Really ballz.....you really should look shit up before looking like a big fucking loser.....
Tennessee Senate - Blackburn vs. Bredesen CNN Blackburn 49, Bredesen 45 Blackburn +4
Texas Senate - Cruz vs. O'Rourke Emerson* Cruz 50, O'Rourke 47 Cruz +3
Shocking.....the BS is flying and the right continues swallowing!!!!!
Full Trumpism’: The president’s apocalyptic attacks reach a new level of falsity
In the campaign’s final days, President Trump has claimed without evidence that Democrats want to destroy the economy, obliterate Medicare and open the borders to violent criminals.
By Philip Rucker
A ‘there-it-is’ moment: Trump wows fans by using Air Force One as a campaign prop
Just like Kemp claiming without a shred of evidence the D's have hacked into the voter system...Now I know Ga ain't got the best school system in the country....but, this plays right into the old white voters that are close to becoming an endangered species.....
Why can't any of these people be objective?
they're liberals. and their stupidity is only exceeded by their arrogance.
plus, there's no downside for being wrong. guys like silver and cook could blow it big time, and on wednesday they just explain it all away with some bullshit pollster speak. and since those questioning their misses don't want to appear as stupid as they really are, they'll accept the explanations and nate and charlie live to be wrong in the next election.
and so on, and so on, and so on.
it's like the alky and his 'landslides.'
LOL.
President Trump has claimed without evidence that Democrats want to destroy the economy, obliterate Medicare and open the borders to violent criminals.
By Philip Rucker
oh, there's plenty of evidence, lip. that you choose to intentionally and dishonestly ignore it is on you, not us.
i have a senator who wants to eliminate ICE, bernie and alexadria fucktardio cortez wants to blow $32 TRILLION on medicaid for all, and virtually every democrat has come out in favor of the beaner brigade marching toward our southern border.
that's what i call destroying the economy, obliterating medicare, and opening our borders to violent scumbags.
agreed, but at the same time 0linsky couldn't fill a high school gym in milwaukee.
so i would say there is something of an enthusiasm gap.
That is the one undeniable fact. Obama has not generated the excitement and enthusiasm Trump has even in friendly locations. (And if there is all this excitement about Gillum, I don't see it. It looks like a media mirage.)
My own guesses are close to yours, C.H. 222-228 D's in the House, while R's win 51-53 seats in the Senate.
I'm still on the fence about the quality of sampling for polls. There was a "golden age" from about 2002-2010 when you could get a good quality sample largely from landline-only calling, and the pollsters had good demographic data to detect when they were getting skewed samples. Now, landline sampling is extremely skewed, and cell phone sampling is problematic, so online polling is very common. But with online sampling you can't control for geography and demographics easily so there's always a question of sample validity. It's a big part of why I stepped away from serious forecasting.
We'll see whether there is any systemic skew in the numbers after tomorrow, either nationally or regionally. If there is, then pollsters will have to figure out what they missed and how to avoid missing it next time. That will be especially true if the errors turn out to be largely the same errors that occurred in 2016.
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