Apparently one of the largest bones of contention (as well as one of the largest potential problems for voter fraud) was that thousands of Broward County ballots registered as "undervotes" in the Senate race. By undervotes, it would mean that no vote was cast in the Senate or Governor's race. While there are always undervotes in any race (there is no rule that says you have to vote in every race), apparently there is much larger percentage in Broward County.
Some suggest that this was a poor ballot design, but with the Governor and Senate race being likely the first or second race on the ballot, it would seem hard to "miss" either of them. That being said, there are some Democrats in Florida who are arguing that the Florida Senate should "do something" about it, because these are Democratic voter being... wait for it... disenfranchised.
Now for some is the bigger concern. Broward and Palm Beach Counties were sitting around on election night with as with thousands of ballots that were machine vote "undervotes". By law, these votes are supposed to be sent to the Canvassing board for review, but we know that in the case of Broward and Palm Beach county, that this wasn't being done. Moreover, knowing that much of these so called "decisions" on questionable ballots were being done by Democrats running these county election without proper witnesses, all it would take is someone with a number two pencil to alter the legal vote count dramatically.
So I certainly understand why Rick Scott and others would be calling for police protection and more strenuous supervision of the ballots in these counties. There are already election laws being broken specifically related to the 90,000 plus new ballots (not reported on election night) that have been counted from those two counties. When the laws being broken are specific to providing transparency and integrity to election counts, logic dictates that it was done to undercut transparency and integrity.
Certainly there appears to be more low hanging fruit when it comes to more potential fraudulent or illegal activity. These election officials cannot be trusted to follow the law or even court orders. They have defied both over the last week. The only additional action to be take would be in the form of protecting election integrity, not in the form of attempting to manufacture more votes that are not there.
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"That being said, there are some Democrats in Florida who are arguing that the Florida Senate should "do something" about it, "
They are calling for the tally to be audited. Because even a tool should be able to see that something is likely wrong with the count.
"So I certainly understand why Rick Scott and others would be calling for police protection "
Rick Scott is trying to use the police to intimidate election officials, with the goal of stopping the counting of votes. Which your moron god Trump is demanding.
"Certainly there appears to be more low hanging fruit when it comes to more potential fraudulent or illegal activity"
No there isn't, which is obvious to everyone BUT the self-deluded followers of the conspiracy theories that have been obviously, publicly, planted by people who are just as obviously trying to STOP votes from being counted.
These pathetic attempts to convince yourself that despicable anti-Democratic vote rigging is somehow acceptable as long as your gods demand it is frankly disgusting. Nothing but transparent rationalization of things that you KNOW are wrong.
Well (whoever you are)...
Only one side of this dispute is breaking Florida Election law and ignoring Court orders. To argue that they are doing both is some sort of stand for the greater good is exactly what makes you gullible and stupid.
Until you know what an undervote looks like.....your opinion as required will be completely ignored....Once again, CH cums in his hand again trying to prove he is smart...LOLOLOL Maybe you and cramps can show up where the votes are being counted like the Delay group and start screaming, making noise and acting like jack asses you all are....
Trump blames Dems for today's Dow loss!!!!......and KD will post about it and tell us how much oil we produce..Must be true!!
Well Denny...
I have no real serious interest in the "recounts" - sounds like the dumbest counties will not be able to follow the Judge's instructions and have it done by Thursdays because they are simply incompetent morons. So those two counties will likely have to certify their original counts, rather than the recounted values.
Either way, there is no way that any sort of recount will be able to overturn 14,000 votes.
The only thing I am interested in is making sure that those morons who cannot figure out how to follow the law or comply with court orders are held accountable. We already know that Brenda Snipes is "out" as Supervisor of Elections (it's only a matter of timing) and there is increasing pressure on the Florida Dept of Law to investigate the behavior as a criminal probe.
So at best, Snipes (and likely Bucher) is out a job. At worst one or the other (or both) may face a criminal probe into their behavior. It's also possible that the Judge whose order was ignored will slap a contempt charge on top of it all.
But then again, Democrats who break the law are heros, huh?
I have no real serious interest in the "recounts"
Lil Scotty What gives you the impression that I give a shit about what you think....I find it amusing you constantly ejaculate prematurely with these spurious opines that makes it seem you are a pundit...Well rest assured....don't
worry, I have no delusions that you will be published anywhere but here! LOLOL What it really comes down to is you are in full favor of voter suppresion and R BS about fraud....the first exists and the second does not unless you feel that 20 maybe questionable votes are a significant problem and being the statistics genius you are, knows that is a false positive and not germane to the entire sample like you will try....!!!
Either way, there is no way that any sort of recount will be able to overturn 14,000 votes.
What an asshole statement Scotty.....It is most likely improbable, but does that mean you think the process should stop? Stupid plain stupid, your new normal!!!! LOLOLOLO
It is most likely improbable, but does that mean you think the process should stop?
Nope... I don't believe it should "stop".
I believe that Broward and Palm Beach Counties should get their act together and get it done when the court ordered it to be done. All of the votes have already been counted (or should have been by law). This is just a machine recount. Running the same ballot back through the same machines. It shouldn't take more than the almost 6 days that they have been given.
If they are incapable of getting it done by then, then I believe that the SOS of Florida should certify their original vote counts and move forward. The entire State and Country should not be waiting around because these people are incompetent buffoons.
Unless, of course, they are not really incompetent buffoons, but have other reasons to "delay" the completion of the recounts? I mean, do you honestly believe that they cannot figure out a good way to put the same ballots back through the same machines in six days?
Nope... I don't believe it should "stop".
Your writing in the negative surely makes me believe that is what you want...As to getting the counties act together....Pam Bondi is the AG who is the boss of those county election officials...Rick Scott has been governor for almost 8 years knowing the history of those county travails....He did nothing but claim liberals were undermining the process with like you, not a shred of evidence to prove that....You want assignation of blame....IMHO Rick Scott is the toot cause PERIOD!!!!! Your name calling again shows me you are not serious on fixing the flaws, just being an asshole like scott!!
Supervisor of Elections for each county is an elected constitutional office. They have no boss except the people in the county they serve. Neither the Secretary of State (the nominal head of election for the state) not the attorney general (who has no authority at all when it comes to elections) have any power to discipline or remove the supervisor.
Only the governor has the power the suspend an election supervisor and only for cause. Only the state legislature has the power to remove a constitutional officer.
If you see Scott's victory reversed on a recount because more votes were "found" during a recount then you know the election was stolen.
"found" during a recount then you know the election was stolen.
Of course cramps....all those forged fake ballots will mean Scott, your new senator is an incompetent medicaid theif.....
Only the governor has the power the suspend an election supervisor and only for cause.
Okay cramps....where ever you got that drivel from.....Bondi has nothing to do.... and as AG would not be responsible for prosecuting the county idiots which puts her in the election loop like Katherine Harris was.......As for Scott....since he is the titular head of floriduh....the shitty elections must be pinned on him! even though blondie is the AG.....Nice try though, your ass has been beaten again...
The decision allowed Harris' previous certification of Bush as the winner of Florida's electoral votes to stand. Florida's 25 electoral votes gave Bush, the Republican candidate, 271 electoral votes, defeating Gore, who ended up with 266 electoral votes (with one D.C. elector abstaining).
Your writing in the negative surely makes me believe that is what you want...
Well that's because you are dumb.
These counties have been given the same funding dollars (per capita) as the rest of the counties to upgrade their systems. If they couldn't figure out a way to do so over the past two years, then again... not the fault of anyone but them.
But as a typical liberal, you blame the failure of liberals on others.
Either way, the Florida Judge has issued the date for when the recounts should be completed. There is literally no reason for you (or anyone else) to suggest that this was partisan, that it was outside of the law, that is is unfair, or that it is designed to prevent votes from being counted. it was a Judge, not Scott or any Republican who decided.
Six days is more than enough time to finish a machine recount, when state law provides only three days to complete the original counts. A recount should take "less" time, not more than double the time.
The second count might take more time to verify the information on the provisional ballots or that might have been delivered late by the Post office.
Either way every legitimate vote should be counted.
As Jerry Brown sips tea.
39 dead in the latest man made fires.
Most expensive home in CA Destroyed . 200 plus missing.
Trump wouldn't go into the rain.
Jerry Brown is killing people.
Trump wouldn't go into the rain.
He was worried that his hair might frizz.....so sad...
How is moon beam killing people cramps....like scott sees massive voter fraud in his regime?????
Blogger Commonsense said...
Jerry Brown is killing people.
no worries...
...incoming governor gavin newsom will fix it by doing to the entire state what he did to san francisco - turning it into one big homeless encampment/heroin shooting gallery slathered in human shit.
Cramps and rat hole
no worries...
Dumb and really fucking dumb....
The ironic thing is that the fire may take out Roger's double-wide but he will still vote for the assholes that made it possible.
The definition of stupidity.
e but he will still vote for the assholes that made it possible.
Other than man created GW exacerbating the Ca fires....who and what assholes did what to make the fires possible...???? I don't hols out for any cogent response as usual....idiot..
The definition of stupidity.
You voting for the theif Scott again and his dissing his own people for voter fraud....too stupid for words....LOL
and it looks like kyrsten sinema was right -
arizona IS the meth lab of democracy. normal intelligent people don't elect a taliban-loving traitor in a pink tu tu to represent them in the senate.
arizona IS the meth lab of democracy
And you are the boil on the ass of trumpism.....which has been completely thumped by the likes of sinima At Least McSally showed a modicum of class in her concession, unlike rick scot or trump who are still screaming fraud.....like you....utter and complete assholes....looks like +40 and 7 million mores votes should even be obvious to amoral assholes like you~~!!!!!!!!
As usual, our menstral disappears into the ether when confronted with reality.....
Bye Bye Kristin .....another major member of trumps staff to be fired.....al least she was pleasant to look at, unlike the hoggish Sarah or Pompeo......seems all the good ones get fucked....good ol' donnie.....
Scott was great governor. He will problaby make a good senator.
Voting for was the smart thing to do.
lo iq commie has been busy owning his nicknames...
Quickly, Trump did speak in the rain in France, "dumb and fucking dumb" would be a fit if he was cloned and for +40:
"Combined with the Republican gains made in 2010, the total number of Democratic-held House seats lost under Barack Obama's presidency in midterm elections rose to 77 with these elections" Wikipedia
So average.
*Yawn*
He will problaby make a good senator.
Of course he will since he is the biggest medicaid fraud theif evah....He will fit tight in with trump and his den of thieves...
Trump did speak in the rain in France
Wow and embarrassed the vets he addressed...very impressive asshole The obama wipe out......has been wiped out this trump term....what's your stupid point????? 7 governors including the red state of Wisconsin that put trump over the top is gone....that will be the repercussion that is generational
So AZ temp senator Kyl will resign soon. The GOP gov will appoint someone until 2020. Will it be mcsally?
Dr. Kelly Ward?
The GOP gov will appoint someone until 2020. Will it be mcsally?
Could be....would make her 2020 run a whole lot easier....At least she has class....unlike your asshole in chief, Kemp and Scott....that sure is different!!!
kyrsten sinema = John McCain only in a skirt.
As gov Brown enjoys more tea.
42 people burnt to death.
Hundreds missing.
Oil prices fell sharply on Tuesday, deepening a rout that has plunged the energy complex into a bear market as growing supply is poised to swamp demand next year.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/13/oil-markets-opec-global-stock-markets-in-focus.html
huh.
i'm old enough to remember when 0linsky told us we couldn't drill our way to lower oil prices.
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