Sunday, December 23, 2018

What we have not been told?

Saudi Arabia and UAE sending troops to help Kurds in Syria
Saudi Arabia and the UAE have sent military forces to areas controlled by the Kurdish YPG group in north-east Syria, Turkey’s Yenisafak newspaper reported.
The paper said the forces will be stationed with US-led coalition troops and will support its tasks with huge military enforcements as well as heavy and light weapons.
Quoting the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, the newspaper reported that a convoy of troops belonging to an Arab Gulf state recently arrived in the contact area between the Kurdish PKK/YPG and Daesh in the Deir Ez-Zor countryside.
This comes at a time when Ankara is preparing to launch an expanded military operation with the Free Syrian Army against the Kurdish PKK group in the northeast of Syria.
The understandings are the product of behind-the-scenes diplomatic talks that were underway prior to U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision this week to withdraw American forces from Syria
According to the terms of the understanding, Russia will continue to give Israel the freedom to strike Hezbollah and Iranian targets and weaponry that threaten the “balance of power” in Syria. According to the Jordanian official, it was these understandings between Trump and Putin that paved the way for the U.S. decision to pull its forces from Syria.
Other high-ranking Jordanian officials have confirmed that Jordan, Israel and Saudi Arabia are working together to contain the threat posed by Iran and Hezbollah’s presence in Syria. Several of them emphasized that U.S. officials had made it clear that U.S. intelligence agencies would increase cooperation with Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, particularly on sharing intelligence, in a joint attempt to counter Iran’s attempt to create a contiguous Shi’ite corridor from Tehran to Beirut.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/saudi-arabia-uae-send-troops-to-support-kurds
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jns/israel-jordan-saudi-arabia-join-forces

Got this reading the Legal Insurrection. They sort of go out of their way to get some facts and opinions on the Syria decision that is not directly coming from the U.S. MSM. If you read between the lines here, it would appear that the decision being made is for the U.S. involvement to be less about heavy lifting (and actual combat) and more intelligence and cooperative support (likely including financial assistance). The concept is that the extra troops coming from our allied countries in the area will replace the troops that the U.S. will be pulling out.

This does not seem unlike the strategy that was once suggested by our previous President and previous administration, who prior to the Russians becoming involved, had been also pushing to reduce our presence in Syria. I strongly suggest that the MSM would not be taking the side of "Mad Dog" over Obama had the two clashed on this issue. In fact, they did likely clash on this issue, and you never heard anyone upset with Obama for firing the "Mad Dog".

Just another case of Trump being damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. If he goes along with conservatives and aggressive military advisors, he's just another war-mongering, crazy cowboy following bad advice. He he goes in the opposite direction and looks to do something more consistent with what a Democrat might do, then the media tears him apart for not following the advice of those they generally disagree with.

Reality is that nothing made a hard core conservative (such as Mad Dog)  a media darling faster than disagreeing with the President. It works, even if the President makes a decision that (if made by anyone else) the left would love.

Now all that being said, I am not sure if the President made the best choice or not. There is widespread condemnation for the move among many people who I generally agree with. But it would appear that this was decision was the fruit of some ongoing discussions taking place with our allies in the region. There are clearly plans in place to make this move fluidly and with the least amount of risk involved. It was not nearly as simple, dangerous, and off the cuff as most people would have us believe.

41 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trumpism on steroids.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

wp and Indy have said adios because of this shit.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

But it would appear that this was decision was the fruit of some ongoing discussions taking place with our allies in the region.

No. One phone call to the President of Turkey and Rush Limbaugh, the new Secretary of Defense.

Trumpism on steroids again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Republicans used to understand that the actions of a president matter, the words of a president matter, the rule of law matters, and the truth matters. Where are those Republicans today?

They stood up to Nixon when he was objecting justice. Trump has been objecting justice since he fired Comey.

They have been castrated by the President. You don't have any balls.

Anonymous said...

Look at this leach.

"Roger AmickDecember 23, 2018 at 2:07 PM

I will get my Social Security check on time. "

Myballs said...

Of they left because you became such an asshole

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I just had a long and productive call with President @RT_Erdogan of Turkey. We discussed ISIS, our mutual involvement in Syria, & the slow & highly coordinated pullout of U.S. troops from the area. After many years they are coming home. We also discussed heavily expanded Trade.

Trump tweeted this now.

Scott you said that he had many phone calls with the leaders of middle eastern countries.

Your perseverance in defending your President has made you look like a fool.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

. Dick Durbin said he is heartbroken that Defense Secretary Jim Mattis is leaving the Cabinet and worried for the next two years of the Trump administration.

“I was one of many senators who privately sat down with Gen. Mattis and said, ‘Please stay, stay as long as you possibly can,'” Durbin (D-Ill.) said on NBC’s Meet the Press.” “We desperately need your mature voice, your patriotism in the room when this president's making life-or-death decisions about national security. But it obviously reached a breaking point.”

Story Continued Below


Added the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate: “It breaks my heart that he’s going to step aside. We counted on him to be there and to stop this president from his worst impulse.”

Talking to host Chuck Todd, Durbin said “the power of the purse strings” was the best way for the Senate to hold President Donald Trump accountable when it comes to foreign policy — and managing ongoing wars in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

“We need to reassert our authority and responsibility when it comes to that,” Durbin said, calling the president’s “snap judgment” on a Syria withdrawal dangerous.

“Every day I question whether or not we can endure another two years,” he said of his outlook for the duration of Trump’s term.

“I think we can; I think this Constitution is strong. The American people are strong. But I'm hoping that my Republican colleagues will step up and join us in a bipartisan effort to put this government back on track.”

You don't watch Meet the Press.

It's just fake news.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

They left because Scott was no longer rational.

Anonymous said...

""As frustrating as it is, there are no easy answers — no military solution that can eliminate the terrible suffering anytime soon," Obama said of Syria. "As president, I made a decision that we should not put American troops into the middle of this increasingly sectarian civil war, and I believe that is the right decision."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It’s beginning to look a lot like dementia.

Not me but the President is extremely frustrated and frankly out of his fucking mind.

Anonymous said...

That quote is your Magic Negro ,Rog.

Not Naco-President Trump.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You went ballistic when Obama did that.

Your hypocrisy is evident again and again kput'z

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Anonymous said...

You boy should have never drawn that faded red line. His bluff got called.
During the Lost Years the US Military never had a CnC they could count on.

Trump is acting more and more like a Democrat.

Anonymous said...

Nope, Your confused again Roger and attempting to cover your broke ads by lying.

Tisk tisk.

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Anonymous said...

wp and Indy have said adios because ..."they got tired of getting their asses whipped. Losing elections. Shift in the US Supreme Court .
How is Ruth? next exit?

Myballs said...

Roger just keeps talking out his ass.

Anonymous said...

No one with his income should take so much from the tax payers.

Social Security is not a mandatory draw. One has to actively apply and be approved.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I paid for the Social Security in my whole life.

Myballs said...

He only supports means testing for republicans

Anonymous said...

"I paid for the Social Security in my whole life." Alky

So what, you tell us you are so wealth.
You had to apply. You can always stop the payout. Will you stop those payouts?

Anonymous said...

Myballs, exactly.

James, Roger and Dopie are the only ones here milking the current tax payers. Dopie and Roger tell us all the time how independently wealthy they are. So why milk the dying system?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein said Sunday that Republicans are coming to a "much greater consensus" that President Trump is unfit to be president following the resignation of Defense Secretary James Mattis.

Bernstein, appearing on CNN's "Reliable Sources," said there is concern that Trump is "unfit on psychological grounds" as well as unfit "because of his contempt for the law" and because of his "conduct of foreign policy."

"What the Mattis letter has done in a monumental way is to push Republicans into making some real judgments. They're talking to each other, there is coming to be a much greater consensus that he is unfit to be the President of the United States," Bernstein said.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I have to live about to 85 before I get more money than I paid for Social Security.

Kput'z will not opt out of Social Security.

None of you will opt out.

Hypocrisy is evident again in the Truthers trash debate.

Anonymous said...

Roger, you lie about me , why?

I did not pay in, told you that a number of times. I was exempt.

"I have to live about to 85 before I get more money than I paid for Social Security. "

Completely, wrong, wrong and wrong.


Anonymous said...

Roger, I believe you grabbed the current workers money as soon as you could , at age 62. Taking a 15 % penalty for life.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I didn't get Social Security until I was 65.

Anonymous said...

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/feb/01/medicare-and-social-security-what-you-paid-what-yo/

Ok, 65.

According to the institute’s data, a two-earner couple receiving an average wage — $44,600 per spouse in 2012 dollars — and turning 65 in 2010 would have paid $722,000 into Social Security and Medicare and can be expected to take out $966,000 in benefits. So, this couple will be paid about one-third more in benefits than they paid in taxes."

However, in your case Roger you and your mail order have ran circles around the example , by sucking the wallets and purses of $1.6 million in just Medical. Add in your draw from SS and you are a leech.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Turkey masses troops near Kurdish-held Syrian town.

If the Kurds are slaughtered by the Turks, Trump and ONLY Trump will be responsible for their deaths! @realDonaldTrump

https://t.co/syxiGVEGK2

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You simply can't comprehend the reason for Social Security and Medicare.

1. People who worked for their lives, but had not been able to pay for a retirement savings plan, many people never worked for high paying jobs. This provides a minimum level of income upon retirement, and will not have to demand help from their families. A minimum level of income upon retirement should be available. You inherited the ranch from your parents. You obviously didn't know how to start a ranch. It's a very difficult business.

2. In most cases the recipient of Medicare will not have a die because they cannot afford medical insurance. And again they will not be a burden on their families.

Anonymous said...

Go to bed Roger. It will be ok.
President Trump is following the Obama Model.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

President Donald Trump is now the “proud” owner of a government shutdown — his third. And he doesn’t seem to mind.

The threat of an extended shutdown is far less of a concern to the president than not making good on his central campaign pledge to build a border wall and looking like a fraud, according to White House aides and Trump allies. Trump spent the weekend digging in on his position behind closed doors, meeting with hard-line conservatives and signaling through his top aides that he could stomach a closure that could drag on well into the new year.

Anonymous said...

Every single time Roger attempts to talk on his own about a subject he goes down in flames.

"Married couples generally benefit the most from Social Security and Medicare payments, especially when one spouse earns significantly more than the other. A two-earner couple with one spouse earning the average wage each year ($43,100 in 2010) and the other spouse earning 45 percent of the average wage annually ($19,400 in 2010) who both retire in 2010 will get back $300,000 more in retirement benefits than they paid into the system. A couple with this earnings history would pay $500,000 in taxes over their lifetime, but get back $800,000 in benefits.

When both members of the couple earn the same average wage over their working life, they get back $192,000 more than their tax contributions. In this case the spouses paid $690,000 in Social Security and Medicare taxes and are likely to get $882,000 worth of benefits in retirement.."



Anonymous said...

Roger, ty. You admitted that we the tax payers pick up the tab .

And again your wealth envy is noted.

Anonymous said...

You bring you my Inheritance .
1, did you receive an inheritance
2, Do you have the means to pass wealth onto your kids.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's Not about a Wall. It's his way of showing his base he's fighting. Fake President!

Indy Voter said...

One of your sources further claims the Saudi support for the Kurds is part of an Arab-Turkish confrontation. Very reassuring.

Anonymous said...



None of you will opt out.

of course not, genius. i should opt out of a system i paid into for 50+ years? that's not just stupid, that's 'alky stupid.'

however, a shiny new college graduate just getting into the workforce SHOULD have the freedom to opt out. SS is welfare built upon a ponzi scheme, and is as poor an investment as that new worker can make. it's cruel beyond belief to extort 12.5% of that kid's earnings just to show them an ROI of .02%.

stop using it to buy votes, figure out a way to wind it way down, means test it, and treat it like medicaid; where only the truly needy are eligible.

the harm you assholes bring to society by always trying to figure out ways to expand rather than contract the welfare state and entitlements is immeasurable.