How can we possibly know until Roger and James provide us with their cut and paste of other people's opinions?
The best take I got on this one was the question as to why Pelosi (and not Schumer) who is being challenged for leadership? Is the seriously the best the Democrats have to offer?
Was it a tactical mistake for Trump to say he is willing to take credit/blame for a Government shutdown? Certainly liberals will likely believe so... but that is because conventional wisdom suggests that there is supposed to be a blame game regarding a shut down. But what if conventional wisdom has it backwards?
Psychologically Trump is stating upfront that he will shut down the Government and take the blame. In a very odd way that puts the burden on others involved to come up with a solution to prevent it. Everyone "expects" Trump to play this sort of game, but the reality is that the Democrats (led by Schumer and Pelosi) want people to believe that they are above it.
They want the President to cower and fear shutting down the wall over border wall funding. But the President is not fearing it. He is making it a binary choice. Shutdown the Government or fund the wall.
Period. Because he is Trump. That's how he is. He has very little to lose.
How will the public react to that binary choice? Almost every poll has been in favor of border wall funding when it is part of a larger border security (slash) immigration proposal. While there may be some polls that suggest that border wall funding (on it's own) might be less popular, is the opposition to that limited funding so solid that opposition would prefer to see a Government shutdown over the issue?
Not likely. The Democrats are going to call the President names (right, wrong, or indifferent) anyways. The fact that they will attack him over his border wall funding is a drop in the bucket. It really has no relative teeth to it. Perhaps if they otherwise were not so quick to attack Trump over every little thing, people might believe that those attacks matter in certain situations.
He's got nothing to lose over taking a hit on a government shutdown. But the Democrats cannot both play the hand they want (come across as being the grown ups) if they refuse to budge on something that most people (in the end) will see as a relatively small issue. They will seem just as petty as he seems.
The old rule of thumb is never argue with a troll. They will just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. There is something in that statement that plays to Trump. It did in the GOP nomination campaign. It did in the general election. he still does in real time today.
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I think this is all about Trump playing to Independents. I think they will generally like that Trump is not concerned about taking blame but rather trying to do the right thing. Liberal press and their partisan followers will have a hissy fit but his political sense has been spot on. He may win this one and I really didn't think he had much of a chance.
cohen was sentenced to 3 years.
alky-lanche of copy/pastes in 5, 4, 3, 2,...
1
Cohen pleaded guilty to eight criminal charges in August, including two campaign finance law violations for arranging hush-money payments shortly before the 2016 presidential election — at Trump’s behest, prosecutors said — to two women who had claimed they had affairs with Trump years ago. The president has denied having an affair.
He was just sentenced to prison for crimes Scott said they are not crimes
Quote of the Day
December 12, 2018 at 11:42 am EST
“President Trump started by bragging about how great border security is going under his watch. That, by the way, is with no wall. If it were truly the case, as the president said, that border security is better than it’s ever been, what’s wrong with another year of the same funding? If things are going so great, why does he have to threaten to shut down the government for his $5 billion wall? It makes no sense.”
— Sen. Chuck Schumer, quoted by NBC News, arguing that President Trump lives in a “cocoon of his own mistruth” and that he and Nancy Pelosi “had to puncture that cocoon and he threw a temper tantrum because of it.”
I say, build the wall with that Mexican money Trump promised.
How can we possibly know until Roger and James provide us with their cut and paste of other people's opinions?
Just like Pauline and menstral do??? CH??? Looks to me you have a different set of standards for the party of old white dumb rocks....LOLOLOLOL
I think they will generally like that Trump is not concerned about taking blame but rather trying to do the right thing.
I'm an independent who thinks your posit is bullshit....!!!!!
I think they will generally like that Trump is not concerned about taking blame but rather trying to do the right thing.
give trump credit for one thing - at least he openly declared he'd take credit for the government shutdown.
in 2013 when it shut down, the sequester was literally 0linsky's idea, yet he was such a fucking coward he had to blame the republicans for the whole thing.
He was just sentenced to prison for crimes Scott said they are not crimes
Funny how that turned out...Now, how complicit was trump to this ???? Me thinks that trump was very much aware of what he told cohen to do was a crime....which therefor makes him just a guilty.....But he is perfect and the party of white dumb rocks will defend him till he actually kills someone......sad...!!!
captain copy/paste strikes again!!!
Cohen pleaded guilty to eight criminal charges in August, including two campaign finance law violations for arranging hush-money payments shortly before the 2016 presidential election — at Trump’s behest, prosecutors said — to two women who had claimed they had affairs with Trump years ago. The president has denied having an affair.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-michael-cohen-sentencing-20181212-story.html
Trump Doubles Down on Shutdown Threat
December 11
Just hours after an explosive meeting with Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, President Trump said that he would happily shut down the government over his desired border wall because he believes it is an issue that he will “win… every single time,” the Daily Beast reports.
Said Trump: “Chuck’s problem is that, you know, when we last closed down, that was his idea. Honestly, he got killed. He doesn’t want to own it. I said rather than us debating who is owning it, I’ll take it.”
He added: “If we close down the country, I’ll take it because we’re closing it down for border security and I think I win that every single time.”
WHO WON THE BATTLE?
‘He Stormed Out of the Oval’
Los Angeles Times White House correspondent Eli Stokols told MSNBC that President Trump “stormed out” of the Oval Office after his contentious meeting with Democratic leaders.
Said Stokols: “He stormed out of the Oval, walked into an anteroom just off the Oval Office and had in his hand a folder of briefing papers. And he just scattered them out of frustration — threw them across the room.”
The shutdown cost Gingrich the leadership of the house.
The temper tantrum President looks like a fool. He is incapable of discussing policies because he flat out refuses to read the briefings before his meetings with Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.
Reports were that once the meetings were completed, he threw his files over the office floor and cursed in frustration.
Because Pelosi had actual proposals to submit a bill to vote in the house. While the Republican controlled house could have passed a bill and sent it to the senate. If McConnell would have tried to work with Schumer to get the 60 votes. But the President shouted down and declared that he would shut down the government to get the wall that the Mexicans were going to pay for.
Instead he insisted that they appropriate $5 Billion dollars for the wall.
The President will not get the wall. He will move on to other irresponsible issues and the base will continue to fight against the country in order to support their President.
Trump Flips the Shutdown Script
December 12
“The trick in Washington has always been to make sure a government shutdown is pinned on the other guy. President Trump is the first to ever pin one on himself,” the New York Times reports.
“In a new twist on the old game of shutdown politics dating to the 1990s, Mr. Trump was essentially goaded on Tuesday by Rep. Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Chuck Schumer into embracing ownership of a shutdown yet to come if Democrats do not accede to his request for $5 billion to build a wall on the southern border with Mexico.”
Said Trump: “I will take the mantle. I’m not going to blame you for it. The last time you shut it down, it didn’t work. I will take the mantle of shutting down, and I’m going to shut it down for border security.”
A smiling Mr. Schumer seemed more than satisfied with Mr. Trump’s retort: “O.K., fair enough.”
steve schmidt (mcstain's campaign mgr.):
"Might this be the greatest crime in American history?" ... "This is what George Washington warned the country about."
these fucksticks must earn bonu$ buck$ from MSDNC and CNN for slathering on an extra layer of hyperbole.
It's not going to hurt Trump with his base or even the independents who want border security. In fact his willingness to shut down the government over principle will win him a lot more votes.
I am not so sure the Democrats are will to die on the hill of open borders, unlimited immigration, and the abolishment of ICE.
Are you?
The President will not get the wall.
there it is folks. another "landslide" prediction.
you know what to do... bet the farm on the opposite outcome.
Trump Still In Denial Over Election Results
December 12, 2018 at 9:51 am EST
First Read: “To us, there’s a more fundamental takeaway to yesterday’s Thunderdome in the Oval Office: It appears Trump still hasn’t accepted his defeat from the midterms and what that means for his agenda beginning next year.
“It was the same kind of ‘thumping’ that George W. Bush recognized back in 2006, and similar to the ‘shellacking’ Barack Obama admitted receiving in 2010. But Trump has yet to concede what really happened in the midterms and how that means divided government in 2019-2020.
“And that divided government takes away leverage he might have in any shutdown fight. As Schumer explained to reporters after the meeting, if there’s a shutdown, House Democrats next year can pass a clean continuing resolution to fund the government — and dare Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to oppose it.”
James Hohmann: “It’s remarkably easy for people to get under Trump’s skin. Chuck and Nancy, as Trump refers to the Democratic leaders, needled him on the economy and the election. And his response illustrated why this was the first meeting between the three leaders in more than a year. Indeed, the president has rarely put himself in positions of being directly challenged over the past two years.”
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And when he did, he blew it. He blew it BIG.
Trump is seeing the big picture. James is not.
But then again, James could never think for himself.
I am not so sure the Democrats are will to die on the hill of open borders, unlimited immigration, and the abolishment of ICE.
Are you?
sure they are. brett kavanaugh was a lesson in just far, just how dishonest, just how absurd, and just how downright fucking evil the democrats are willing to get to achieve their goal. that doesn't mean they'll win, but they are certainly willing to go there.
what do they have to lose?
democrats have a piss poor record of victory running on their actual agenda. so they lie. and absent that, their only other alternative is to unleash a tsunami of undocumented illegal democrats, creating the resurgence of the permanent underclass they require for political survival.
this was ted kennedy's goal in 1965 when he changed the immigration laws and loosened the requirements, and it's their goal today with open borders, unlimited immigration, and the abolishment of ICE.
just when you think these rotten cocksuckers can't stoop any lower, lower they go.
the pederast needs teegen goddard to think for him, and the alky needs maggie haberman.
Then the Democrats will get slaughtered in 2020.
BTW, Trump is right, if they try to impeach him there will be an uprising.
WASHJINGTRON POST:
‘It’s now or never’: Trump faces a moment of truth on his border wall
Excellent article. It ain't going to be now.
Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who arranged the bureau's interview with then-national security adviser Michael Flynn at the White House on Jan. 24, 2017 — the interview that ultimately led to Flynn's guilty plea on one count of making false statements — suggested Flynn not have a lawyer present at the session, according to newly-filed court documents. In addition, FBI officials, along with the two agents who interviewed Flynn, decided specifically not to warn him that there would be penalties for making false statements because the agents wanted to ensure that Flynn was "relaxed" during the session.
The new information, drawn from McCabe's account of events plus the FBI agents' writeup of the interview — the so-called 302 report — is contained in a sentencing memo filed Tuesday by Flynn's defense team.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/memo-fbi-recommended-michael-flynn-not-have-lawyer-present-during-interview-did-not-warn-of-false-statement-consequences
Wa Po
The people love a feisty grandma, so Nancy Pelosi gave them one
Roger you stupid, stupid ass hat. You listen to what live?. It sure the duck was not The Naco-President.
HE actually said.
""I'll be the one to shut it down. I will take the mantle. And I will shut it down for border security," Trump told House and Senate Democratic leaders as Vice President Pence .
You said you hear him "live" say. Go back to cut n paste low IQ scum.
"Roger AmickDecember 11, 2018 at 12:51 PM
BREAKING: Trump says he would be "proud" to shut down the government over the border wall in a chaotic televised meeting with Democratic leaders."
2nd Generation Alky never right on anything. Cc.
at least he openly declared he'd take credit for the government shutdown.
Well La di fucking dah!!! Be proud as that little tid bit will be a video moment for years to come....just to remind all those independents on why they vote D!!!! LOLOLOL
Stroke victim Nancy. Slurred speech, twitching, losing train of thought and the botox.
Wa Po
The people love a feisty grandma, so Nancy Pelosi gave them one
LMAO!!!
Roger, after you dumped your stock about a week or so ago the Dow is UP 1K.
Stroke victim Nancy. Slurred speech, twitching, losing train of thought and the botox.
i'll bet she wanted the media to leave so they wouldn't catch her pissing the oval office sofa.
Chuck looking at your feet make you Trumps beta puppy.
the Democrats will get slaughtered in 2020.
That goes into the archives.
"i'll bet she wanted the media to leave so they wouldn't catch her pissing the oval office sofa."
Lol, she told us she pisses standing up. Old bitch.
Our culture loves meme-ing gray-haired ladies when they’re a little inappropriate.
Which is why, on Tuesday, after Nancy Pelosi dressed down President Trump in a televised Oval Office meeting and sauntered out like she had to get to a lunch date with Audrey Hepburn, being pro-Nancy suddenly became cool again in certain liberal circles.
“Seventy. [Bleeping]. Eight.” gushed one fan on Twitter over a photo of the Democratic leader leaving the White House in a red swing coat and sunglasses.
Pelosi paused to explain why she’d requested that the meeting, which also included Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), continued off camera: “I didn’t want in front of [President Trump and Vice President Pence] to say, ‘You don’t know what you’re talking about.’ ”
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Meanwhile Trump was throwing papers all around. :-)
Roger, after you dumped your stock about a week or so ago the Dow is UP 1K.
that reminds me. i just had my quarterly review with my financial advisor. even with all the turmoil and precipitous drops in the Dow, my portfolio was still UP by 0.48%.
heh.
it's a damn good thing the alky has a defined benefit pension. if he didn't he'd be in a homeless camp in anaheim.
Pence was hilarious. He didn't make one move except the move his head
Pelosi had actual proposals to submit a bill to vote in the house. While the Republican controlled house could have passed a bill and sent it to the senate. If McConnell would have tried to work with Schumer to get the 60 votes. But the President shouted down and declared that he would shut down the government to get the wall that the Mexicans were going to pay for.
Instead he insisted that they appropriate $5 Billion dollars for the wall.
The President will not get the wall. He will move on to other irresponsible issues and the base will continue to fight against the country in order to support their President.
You will regret supporting this President.
Good thing he didn't work for the state of California whose politicians are planning to stiff their pensioners.
He was just sentenced to prison for crimes Scott said they are not crimes
Actually Roger...
Sort of the other way around. He got a reduction in sentencing in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to the campaign violations. He was looking at bigger time for his tax business tax issues "prior" to agreeing.
Funny... whether or not someone believes that a campaign violation is a criminal or civil action.... has anyone ever been charged with being an "accessory" to a campaign violation?
Because that is the "crime" you would like to see Trump charged for.
Even if it was a campaign expense (which it is not according to the FEC) - Cohen stated in his plea that he paid for it himself (despite there being written contracts stating differently).
So Trump could not have committed any campaign violation himself (because according to the plea, he didn't pay for it).
The idea that he "directed" someone to do something would make him what exactly? A "conspirator" or an "accessory" to a campaign violation?
No reasonable prosecutor standard?
No reasonable prosecutor would want to prosecute the President for being an accessory to a criminal act copped by someone who literally is lying about the details, and has been charged with lying to authorities.
Good luck!
He was looking at bigger time for his tax business tax issues "prior" to agreeing.
IOW's Trumps personal attorney is a tax fraud, felon and going to jail for 3 years which could have been worse....Yep....that's about the whole story, frump hired a crook and surrounded himself with liars, frauds and family......LOLOLOLOL No reasonable prosecutor is going to ignore the plea and what mueller hasn't released yet which you know is substantial....
Well Denny!
He's still the President of the United States and quite obviously Hillary is still stewing about it!
The look on her face at the Bush funeral!!!!
PRICELESS!!!
Now that gave us all a good belly laugh!
Schumer was never going to give ten votes for anything. Trump was right on that.
And now trump has chuck and Nancy on camera opposing funding that they voted for just this past February.
Well done.
He plead guilty to the campaign violations at the direction of Individual-1.
Good luck with that the day after he is no longer the President.
You're attempting to declare he begged for a reduced sentence means that individual-1 was just trying playing politics. Not in violation of the campaign laws.
Your perseverance in defending the President is getting more insane.
BUSTED: National Enquirer admits it committed a felony ‘in concert with’ Trump’s campaign
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American Media, Inc., the parent company of the National Enquirer tabloid, admitted on Wednesday to committing a felony campaign finance violation “in concert with” Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.
As announced by the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, AMI admitted to making a $150,000 hush-money payment to Playboy model Karen McDougal “in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election.”
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“AMI further admitted that its principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the woman’s story so as to prevent it from influencing the election,” the office noted.
SDNY said that it has chosen not to prosecute AMI for the illegal campaign contribution at this point provided that the company continues cooperating with the investigation.
Scott you just got castrated.
As announced by the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, AMI admitted to making a $150,000 hush-money payment to Playboy model Karen McDougal “in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election.”
has anyone ever been charged with being an "accessory" to a campaign violation?
actually yes. and he just happened to be a republican.
On May 20, 2014, D'Souza pleaded guilty in federal court to one felony charge of using a "straw donor" to make an illegal campaign contribution to a 2012 United States Senate campaign.[13][14] On September 23, he was sentenced to eight months in a halfway house near his home in San Diego, five years probation, and a $30,000 fine.[15][16] On May 31, 2018, D'Souza was issued a full pardon by President Donald Trump.[17]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinesh_D%27Souza
it was bullshit from start to finish, hence trump's pardon.
preet bharara was the piece of shit hack who went after him, and who trump subsequently fired.
Desperation
He got a reduction in sentencing in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to the campaign violations. He was looking at bigger time for his tax business tax issues "prior" to agreeing.
He pleaded guilty of collusion with the President in violation of campaign finance laws.
President Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen addressed the court prior to his sentencing Wednesday.
“I take full responsibility for each act that I pled guilty to,” said Cohen. “The personal ones for me and for the President of the United States of America” he added.
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“I have been living in a personal and mental incarceration ever since the day that I accepted the offer to work for a real estate mogul whose business acumen that I deeply admired,” Cohen said.
Recently the president tweeted a statement calling me weak and it was correct but for a much different reason than he was implying. It was because time and time again I felt it was my duty to cover up his dirty deeds,” Cohen said.
“Today is one of the most meaningful days of my life. The irony is that today I get my freedom back,” Cohen told the court. “Blind loyalty to this man [Trump] led me to choose a path of darkness over light.”
Although Cohen agreed to collaborate with investigators, prosecutors with the Southern District of New York recommended a lengthy prison sentence.
In the past, Cohen—who worked as Trump’s fixer for years—had pledged to take a “bullet” for the president.
Scott has taken the same path.
. “Blind loyalty to this man [Trump] led me to choose a path of darkness over light.”
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Scott you just got castrated.
learn the law alky. just because you desperately wish this to be a campaign finance violation doesn't make it so. even if cohen was stupid enough to plead guilty to it.
you hold up these press snippets as evidence. they're not. and all the copy/pastes in the world won't make it so.
He got a reduction in sentencing in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to the campaign violations. He was looking at bigger time for his tax business tax issues "prior" to agreeing.
so he got a reduced sentence on a real and bigger crime for pleading guilty to a non-crime. man, they really had cohen by the balls. but that doesn't make trump guilty. not even close.
if anything this just shows how desperate mueller is to get trump, and what a fucking hack mueller is overall.
and yes alky, i know that the SDNY is not the mueller team. they're just quietly doing mueller's bidding.
nah, this isn't a set up. not one bit. no siree bob...
SDNY: "ok, so this is how this is gonna go. you're going to cop to a "crime" (wink, wink) that you didn't commit, and we're not gonna prosecute you for the "crime" you didn't commit. deal?
AMI: "deal."
SDNY said that it has chosen not to prosecute AMI for the illegal campaign contribution at this point provided that the company continues cooperating with the investigation.
you have to be "alky stupid" to fall for this shit.
How come so many of Roger's "opinions" have this in the middle of them?
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Guess CHT nailed it on the intro once again.
LOL
He is guilty.
Plea deal is not relevant.
He violated the law under the definition of Individual-1
pleading guilty to a non-crime
Take that to the Department of justice and beg for forgiveness.
LOL.
boy alky, when you don't have a copy/paste at the ready you're a veritable moron.
he guilty.
individual 1.
plea deal not relevant.
mongo like candy.
alky, did you ever stop and ask yourself why, if cohen had anything big on trump, he was sentenced instead of being offered immunity?
you have the guy tried, convicted and sentenced on crimes that not only did he not commit, but crimes that don't even exist.
Roger Amick said...
pleading guilty to a non-crime
Take that to the Department of justice and beg for forgiveness.
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mark levin - an actual lawyer - offers a detail, fact-filled take. don't read it alky. it contains facts, not media TDS hysteria driven conjecture and innuendo.
1. A sitting president cannot be indicted. That’s official DOJ policy since 1973. Neither the Special Counsel nor the Southern District of New York (SDNY) nor Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein can defy that 45-year-old policy.
2. The SDNY is not expert in campaign finance violations and neither is the Clinton-appointed district judge. They rarely handle campaign finance cases.
The left-wing media and politicians are regurgitating what the prosecutors have merely filed in their own self-serving brief. The media and others intentionally refuse to look at the actual rules and context. They refuse to even question what these prosecutors have thrown together.
3. The actual campaign rules and context do not include Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs) or an infinite variety of other contracts, payments, arrangements, acts of a private nature, etc. as campaign contributions. These represent normal human behavior and were never intended to be regulated or reported.
SDNY is dead wrong. And these private payments can be made in any manner or any amount. Again, they’re private payments involving private matters. To underscore, there is no reporting requirement because they’re not campaign payments made with or without campaign funds.
4. SDNY inclusion of these charges in the Cohen plea deal was a sleazy political and PR attack against the president by an office coordinating with Mueller and aligned with Comey.
SDNY knew Cohen would plead. It therefore knew its absurd allegations would not be tested in any courtroom — district, circuit or Supreme Court. If they were tested, SDNY would be hammered like a nail.
But it knew the left-wing media and politicians would use the mere over-the-top allegations from its office, with absolutely nothing more, to claim the president committed campaign felonies. No due process. No assumption of innocence.
They knew they couldn’t charge a sitting president. Thus, they convict the president in the press, not only an extreme act of professional misconduct but a violation of the very purpose of the DOJ memos banning the indictment of a sitting president while effectively indicting him in the court of public opinion, and watch as untold numbers of media personalities and former members of the SDNY, among others, use this dirty work to predict or demand the president’s indictment and/or impeachment.
5. As for impeachment, NDAs involving wholly private matters occurring before the president was even a candidate and completely unrelated to his office cannot legitimately trigger the constitutions impeachment clause. Indeed, they could not be more irrelevant.
The history of the clause and its “high crimes and misdemeanors” language make it crystal clear that the office and the president’s duties are not affected in any conceivable way by these earlier private contracts.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/mark-levin-delivers-truth-amidst-the-msm-hysteria.158454/
mark levin - an actual asshole - offers a detail, fact-filled take.
Fixed your cut and paste POS for you rectum breath....
AMI admits they paid an illegal contribution to the trump campaign.....He's truly fucked!!!!!
wow, that ballot harvesting and subsequent one party rule in california is certainly paying dividends...
California wants to tax your text messages
https://abc7news.com/technology/california-wants-to-tax-your-text-messages/4885451/
all to pay for free 0linsky-phones.
hey d0pie, speaking of rectums, assholes, and all things foul smelling, have you cleared up the noxious fumes emanating from your daughters crotch yet?
i'm thinking that extended exposure to those fumes, coupled with your several strokes, is what's driving your extended period of delirium.
have you cleared up the noxious fumes emanating from your daughters crotch yet?
Speaking of complete assholes....look in the mirror....I see I got your goat really good...you only resort to calling out my kid when you are trapped like donnie is....Good....maybe you can get your retarded spawn to hold that 7 mm while you suck on the barrel....LOLOLOL Dayum funny as I am laughing my fucking ass off at you and your idiot donnie.....you are soooooo fucked!!!!!
wow, that ballot harvesting and subsequent one party rule in california is certainly paying dividends
Hey jag off.....the only documented ballot harvesting was done in the NC 9 race,,,,,and guess what....IT WAS THE R"S WHO GOT CAUGHT while all you post is other persons opinions which are fucking wrong!!!! I sure am enjoying the fudge packing you are getting today....asshole....
Cortez claims she is Jewish.
Cortez claims she is Jewish.
KD the goat fucker hates Jews.....I knew it...!!!!!!!
Investigation of Trump Hush Money Advances With Deal With Tabloid Company
The publisher of The National Enquirer played an important role in a scheme to pay women who said they had affairs with Donald J. Trump, federal prosecutors said.
Under the arrangement, the company, American Media Inc., will not be prosecuted in return for its cooperation in the investigation.
HE'S SOOOOOOO FUCKED!!!!
And the travesty continues....
Giuliani Courts Business Abroad While Working for Trump
Ethics experts say Rudolph W. Giuliani risks blurring lines by seeking contracts with foreign governments while remaining Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer.
Trump and Cohen’s Hush-Money Scandal: Why It Matters
President Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen has been sentenced to prison for offenses,
Oh Lil Scotty....how you going to spin this pile of shit that trump is in the middle of....??? Blame Comey's memory??? Deny??? Or just accept the fact and support the liar in chief in all his endeavors.....gotta be tough being a trumpette with all the shit that's flowing down hill.....LOLOLOL"""
By Rebecca R. Ruiz and Ben Protess
Dec. 12, 2018
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Federal prosecutors took a major step on Wednesday in their investigation of hush-money payments made to two women who said they had affairs with Donald J. Trump, announcing that The National Enquirer’s parent company was cooperating.
The company, American Media Inc., the country’s biggest tabloid publisher, played an important role in a scheme to keep the women silent in the months before the 2016 election so that Mr. Trump’s chances would not be damaged, federal prosecutors said.
Under the agreement, which was dated in September but had been kept private, federal prosecutors in Manhattan agreed not to charge A.M.I. in return for the company’s cooperation.
The agreement came after David J. Pecker, A.M.I.’s chief executive, provided key testimony to prosecutors as they investigated the president’s personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen. Mr. Cohen received a three-year prison sentence on Wednesday in part for his involvement in the payments, which prosecutors said amounted to campaign finance violations.
Trump and his spawn are soooooooo fucked....
The next to be indicted will be members of the Trump organization who knew of the reason for the payment and nonetheless recorded it on the company books as a business expense and then authorized it to be treated as such for tax purposes. The feds got Capone for taxes. It will be how they take down Trump.
Great to see how donnie just throws all his people under the bus as he tries to lie his way out of trouble...It worked in his family business, but there are 300 million citizens that have had enough of his vanity and bullshit games.....He's soooooo fucked as are you Lil Scotty....keep supporting him as he goes around the toilet bowl ......LOLOLOL
Old goat is assfucking men?
That is very queer.
Funny how the moronic postings of the right have suddenly gone silent....Could it be that you all have come to the realization how fucked trump is, by his own doing....???? Think Grassely will shrug his shoulders and stick his head up trumps big fat old white ass with the latest revelation??? And I would bet there is a whole lot more coming down the line....especially with Pelosi on the hunt since trump deals so well with women .....LOL
New theme song for trump and his cronies......LOLOLOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY
Hey Denny
Nobody from the President's family will be indicted over bogus campaign finance charges. Not a snowball's chance in hell. It's barely even worth the trouble of typing it.
Nobody from the President's family will be indicted over bogus campaign finance charges
Really Lil Scotty???? Wonder if Junior approved the payment to Pecker???? Bogus....now they got two bogus convictions over those bogus charges....You really need to pull your fat white head out of trumps fat white ass....going to be more crap coming in spite of you saying it is bogus....Too funny Lil Scotty, how reality has left your being...You and trump are soooo fucked and you can only posit the charges are bogus....yep you are a joke!!!!!
Sean Davis
The latest minute orders from Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, who is overseeing Michael Flynn's case, seem like a big deal. Sullivan just ordered the original Strzok/Pientka memos on the Flynn interview and the official FBI 302, filed 7 months later, to be filed with the court.
Could be VERY INTERESTING.
more Davis
So the apparent sequence of events was: 1) Flynn interview, 2) preparation of a memorandum noting conclusion that Flynn did not lie, 3) Comey fired, 4) Mueller appointed, 5) Rosenstein issues secret new Mueller orders, 6) Strzok fired, 7) new FBI memo claiming Flynn lied.
How can we possibly know until Roger and James provide us with their cut and paste of other people's opinions?
Check out my comments.
I showed him the his opinion on the laws that he plead guilty to were just in an attempt to avoid jail time wasn't true.
The Department of Justice didn't give him a break. Because he's guilty. S. Scott finds way to act like Cohen did in his loyalty to the President.
Leftist and old goat, when is Trump criminally charged?
How hurt was Chuck, he called us border security "petty".
Losing it.
Roger...
Sorry. Have you bothered to read the law?
52 USC 30114: Use of contributed amounts for certain purposes
For the purposes of paragraph (1), a contribution or donation shall be considered to be converted to personal use if the contribution or amount is used to fulfill any commitment, obligation, or expense of a person that would exist irrespective of the candidate's election campaign or individual's duties as a holder of Federal office
So the question is simple.
Would a celebrity (and husband) such as Donald Trump have any reason to enter into a NDA with a porm star? The question answers itself when you consider that Trump had been negotiating with Daniels prior to making a run for President.
The law Roger.
You know. Something smart people might choose to look at.
A contribution or donation shall not be converted by any person to personal use.
52 USC 30114
Where did you get this?
"when you consider that Trump had been negotiating with Daniels prior to making a run for President."
Once again. The Department of Justice has indicted and got a guilty plea from Cohen. The lawyers there don't refer to the Federalist Society as a source of the interpretation of the law.
I found the source of information that you claim was not your source of information.
Michael Cohen, was sentenced to three years in prison over charges of tax fraud, campaign finance violations and lying to Congress.
I'm not a lawyer and neither are you. That specific section of the campaign laws. I found a couple and quoted the same law. But you used the Federalist Society page to pick up the one out of dozens of other sections of the law.
I'm not a lawyer and neither are you.
But I can read and I can think.
Besides, there are many, many, many lawyers who believe that there is literally zero chance that Trump would ever face charges.
Think of it this way, Rog...
Why wouldn't a business man like Trump use this interpretation to use campaign donations to pay off NDA's, settle lawsuits, and do all sorts of stuff in the "name of the campaign"?
If he used collective campaign funds, nobody has to go over $2700. He could still settle all sorts of legal expenses in the name of the campaign. He could have paid off the Trump University lawsuit (complete with NDA agreements) and used campaign funding to do so.
But he couldn't...
Because doing so (using campaign funds for ANYTHING that could be INTERPRETED as personal) is illegal.
From the indictment filed in court.
4. Cohen’s Illegal Campaign Contributions
On approximately June 16, 2015, Individual-1, for whom Cohen worked at the time, began
an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States. Cohen had no formal title
with the campaign, but had a campaign email address, and, at various times advised the campaign,
including on matters of interest to the press. Cohen also made media appearances as a surrogate
and supporter of Individual-1. (PSR ¶ 39).
During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the
rights to stories – each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 – so as
to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to
both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen
coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings
and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and
as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with
and at the direction of Individual-1. (PSR ¶¶ 41, 45). As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither
woman spoke to the press prior to the election. (PSR ¶ 51).
This just doesn't matter to you.
each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 – so as
to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election.
It's not just political campaign rhetoric. It was designed to keep information from the voters and possibly altering their decisions on the election day.
I can't post the PDF file. But the Southern District indictment specifically quotes the law.
The voters have the right to have all the information necessary to make their decisions..
Comey's decision to pursue the investigation into the Clinton emails was probably the final nail in the coffin of her campaign. But if he was exposed as a filandring son of a bitch he would not be putting our nation at risk.
It wasn't just personal.
It was designed to alter the outcome of the election.
You keep saying that it was personal.
It was not personal.
Individual-1, for whom Cohen worked at the time, began an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States.
Unindicted suspect Donald J. Trump.
4. Cohen’s Illegal Campaign Contributions
Long after he decided to run for President.
Your timeline is inconsistent with the facts.
But I can read and I can think.
You had already made up your mind.
Geez, no wonder wp said adios
You won't read this. He's a Republican.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senator-bob-corker-trump-conduct-hurts-our-country/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab6a&linkId=61005159
He sites many of the same things I have been saying about the President.
Would a celebrity (and husband) such as Donald Trump have any reason to enter into a NDA with a porm star?
Damn right he would. To influence the outcome of the election.
Something smarter people might choose to consider the facts. Not based upon their political views. The indictment filed disagrees with you opinion. They are the lawyers.
Our country was put at risk by the corruption of the deep state leadership at the doj, FBI, CIA and IRS. We only know about them because of Trump's victory.
Roger Amick said...
It wasn't just personal.
It was designed to alter the outcome of the election.
yeah, that's right alky.
a guy who's been a known womanizer for as long as he's been in the public eye magically shifted public perception of himself by shelling out 250 large to a couple of whores.
that did the trick. that was the margin of victory.
yup, that was it alky. that, and the mysterious and mythical russian collusion we've suddenly stopped hearing about is what tipped the election in favor of trump. this would be comical if it weren't so dangerous.
he didn't break the law, alky. just because cohen said he did and you're desperate to be rid of this man doesn't make it true.
ironically, all mueller, rosenstein, and their merry band of misfits are really accomplishing here is the setting of precedent. at some point in the future there will be another democrat elected president. and since the democrats led by their sore loser candidate have made it fashionable to contest the results of an election by overthrowing the winner, a special counsel/independent prosecutor will be named on the incoming president's inauguration day. and from the moment that duly elected democrat president takes the oath of office, a full-on investigation into that person's life going back to the day they emerged from the womb will commence.
the goal?
to throw that president out of office by any means necessary.
the prosecutor will be given an unlimited staff and budget, no timeline, and the free reign to investigate whatever they can turn up, as long as the case culminates in the ejection of the president from office.
if you think this sounds far fetched and unrealistic, think again alky, because this is essentially where we are.
a pack of sore losers who refuse to accept the results of a legitimate election are throwing a fucking temper tantrum with no consideration of the long term consequences of their actions. so typically liberal. ready, fire, aim.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
But I can read and I can think.
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As a definitional matter, that agreement cannot be the basis of a campaign finance violation. The government’s own Sentencing Memorandum for Michael Cohen states:
“In August 2014, (Pecker) had met with Cohen and (Trump), and had offered to help deal with negative stories about (Trump’s) relationships with women by identifying such stories so that they could be purchased and ‘killed.'”
August 2014 is a full year before there even was a Trump campaign. It’s disturbing enough to have every payment made during a campaign subject to investigation as a potential campaign finance violation. But to be finding campaign law violations before there’s even a campaign is ludicrous.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/12/ann-coulter-government-indicts-ham-sandwich-michael-cohen-pleads-guilty/
“In August 2014, Chairman-1 had met with Cohen and Individual-1, and had offered to help deal with negative stories about Individual-1’s relationships with women by identifying such stories so that they could be purchased and ‘killed,’ ” the prosecutors’ memorandum says.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/federal-prosecutors-recommend-substantial-prison-term-for-former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen/2018/12/07/e144f248-f7f3-11e8-8c9a-860ce2a8148f_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.63a628057447
outstanding. trump had not yet declared his candidacy in august of 2014.
had running for president crossed his mind back then? perhaps. so now we are reduced to pursuing thought crimes. all because a large pack of sore loser crybabies didn't get their way.
Finally, by ignoring these other parts of the statute and its implementing regulations (which carry the force of law), the prosecutors attempt to make the “for the purpose of influencing any election” language a subjective test that would, but for the plea bargain, be decided by a jury. But that is incorrect. The test is intended as an objective test of campaign-related expenditures. Renting campaign office space, printing bumper stickers and yard signs, hiring campaign staff, paying for polling, and buying broadcast ads are all obligations that exist for the purpose of influencing an election. Paying hush money to silence allegations of decade-old affairs is not.
When faced with the vague, sweepingly broad “for the purpose of influencing any election” language, the Supreme Court has consistently restricted its reach to brightly defined rules. For example, in determining whether a public message was an “expenditure” made “for the purpose of influencing any election,” it has construed the later phrase to apply only to messages “expressly advocating” the election or defeat of a candidate, such as “vote for,” “vote against,” “defeat,” “re-elect,” and the like, or to other clearly defined messages that are the “functional equivalent” of that express advocacy.
In short, Michael Cohen is pleading guilty to something that isn’t a crime. Of course, people will do that when a zealous prosecutor is threatening them with decades in prison. But his admissions are not binding on President Trump, and Trump should fight these charges ferociously.
COMMENTS
Many Americans have convinced themselves that Trump is a uniquely dangerous and bad man, such that any available tool should be used to expel him from office. But in that way lies the bigger threat to our democracy and rule of law.
In A Man for All Seasons, Sir Thomas More’s future son-in-law, Roper, states that he would “cut down every law in England” if it would enable him to catch the devil. To which More responds,
'And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!'
We do ourselves no service by distorting and misapplying our campaign-finance laws in the hope of bagging Donald Trump.
— Bradley A. Smith, a former chairman of the Federal Election Commission, is chairman of the Institute for Free Speech and a visiting fellow in the James Madison Program at Princeton.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/michael-cohen-sentencing-campaign-finance-law/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/michael-cohen-sentencing-campaign-finance-law/
Rat hole again practicing C+P that he so detests when Roger does it....Fucking loser hypocrite....LOL
Trump should reject the farm bill.
Approve the Justice\prison reform.
RRB I see you triggered Dopie.
Ty.
He is joking right?
"Roger Amick said...
It wasn't just personal.
It was designed to alter the outcome of the election." 2nd Generation Alky
I thought it was the Russians changing hearts, minds and votes, so said all retarded Hillary hacks.
Rat hole again practicing C+P that he so detests when Roger does it....
i don't detest it d0pie, i mock it. outside of c&p, the alky's comments boil down to -
"orange man bad."
he offers one liners that are nothing more than snippets of news that he and his TDS agree with.
what roger can NEVER do is articulate why he agrees with his c&p's, how they inform his own opinions, and what he derives from them that have led him to a specific conclusion.
blindly pasting shit is the work of a TDS - afflicted moron.
Low IQ 2nd Generation Alky
"He sites many of the same things I have been saying about the President."
No, one "cites" not "site".
Naco-President end free loading.
"The annual Christmas-season gathering was a significant perk for those covering the White House, as well as other Washington reporters, anchors and commentators, and New York media executives would regularly fly in for the occasion. At its peak, the invitation-only soirees grew so large that there were two back-to-back events, one for broadcast outlets and one for print organizations."
don't detest it d0pie,
Sure asshole.....it bothers the shit out of you or you wouldn't be posting about it....fuck you and the goat fucking idiot who is actually dumber than you and a box of rocks....LOL
Michael Cohens theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whQQpwwvSh4
Fits to a tee!!!
Aww, we hurt little old goat's feelings.
KD weeping uncontrollably is worried.....
Aww the goat fucker has
gotten fucked....too funny
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