Federal border officials pressed the case today for a border wall — even as Democrats showed no sign of yielding to President Donald Trump’s $5.7 billion funding request. U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials hosted a background press briefing to highlight the value of barriers as part of a broader system that prevents illegal entries.
“The barrier itself is the backbone of the system,” said one CBP official at the briefing, which was held at the Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center. The official added that a barrier is “not as effective without technology or without access roads.”So, yeah. Why listen to the experts, facts, or anything else? Just listen to your liberal media parroting the Democratic talking points memo, and citing skewed polling instead.
Now it is one thing to oppose the wall because you are actually not in favor of border security in general. While almost nobody openly makes this argument, ultimately it is the de facto standard belief for most liberals.
But it's quite another if you are one of those who is trying to argue that a fence is ineffectual. There is quite literally no historical, statistical, or logistical evidence that a southern barrier doesn't work to help border agents better patrol the border. All evidence suggests that border crossings are reduced by as much as 95 percent in areas where there is fencing. Every pre-Trump Presidency opinion on the subject (including Chuck Schumer) involves praise for the wall,. All of the actual arguments made by border agents and those who represent them are strongly in favor or more barriers being built.
All the left is doing is passing along liberal rhetoric.
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Border agency officials push wall amid shutdown standoff
Of course officials who work for trump will support the boss.....seems the rank and file feel otherwise......
Poll shows federal workers don't prefer a border wall to getting paid
Dylan Stableford 4 hours ago
President Trump has claimed repeatedly that most federal workers support his tactic of shutting down the government to enforce his demand for a border wall — including those directly affected by it. But a new poll of government employees shows that few actually do.
According to the survey conducted by the Government Business Council and GovExec.com and released Tuesday, 71 percent of federal workers oppose the shutdown, compared to just 21 percent who support it. Just 34 percent of federal employees surveyed support Trump’s demand for funding for the wall, while 56 percent oppose it. And of those workers against the wall, more than 80 percent say they are strongly opposed to it.
"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or between people in the campaign,"
"I said the President of the United States,"
Giuliani admitted that the Trump campaign officials colluded with the Russians, but there is no evidence to support the claim that the President was involved with the Russian collusion.
That govexec poll mentioned above, the firm is run by execs from Atlantic Media. The same Atlantic Media who in 2016, for just the third time in their 159 year history, endorsed a presidential candidate. Any guesses who it was?
Hint, she was a shoo in to win.
The same Atlantic Media who in 2016, for just the third time in their 159 year history, endorsed a presidential candidate. Any guesses who it was?
And you feel that is relevant why??????? And please be specific if you can....LOL
Given the fact that the wall alone is increasingly unlikely to be an effective method for border control, all the people who support his campaign promises are using right wing rhetoric.
Declaring a national emergency in response to unarmed caravans of families in pursuit of asylum is an overreach of executive privilege.
The money would be far more effective if it is used for increased security at the ports of entry, where the vast amount of illegal drugs and children who are sold to people who exploited them sexually.
Public support for the President
Approval Opposed Spread
Rasmussen (1/13 - 1/15) 43 55 -12
Roger Amick said...
Given the fact that the wall alone is increasingly unlikely to be an effective method for border control...
given "the fact?"
good one alky.
the "fact" is walls work. if they didn't, every leftist hypocrite on the planet would not have one around their fortressed compound.
so we can take the word of those charged with protecting the border every day, or we can listen to you...
which is the entire point of this post.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or between people in the campaign,"
"I said the President of the United States,"
why would you selectively edit the quote, alky?
would it be that you're a liar?
why yes, yes it would -
Giuliani cut in, “Well, you just misstated my position. I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or between people in the campaign. I have no idea…I said the president of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the president of the United States committed the only crime you could commit here, conspired with the Russians to hack the DNC.”
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/01/16/giuliani-i-never-said-there-was-no-collusion-i-said-trump-didnt-collude/
There is quite literally much historical, statistical, or logistical evidence that a very long barrier will work to help border agents better patrol the border.
The Russians constructed a wall between East and West Germany. It had armed security guards with permission to use deadly force were not very effective in keeping people from seeking asylum.
We are not going to have effective control over hundreds of miles of open country barriers.
There has been rhetorical hate on the blog, supporting the use of deadly force against families attempting to enter the United States, and leaving their bodies to rot as a deterrent for illegal immigration.
What the President is proposing is contrary to American values. The people who support his campaign promises are using right wing rhetoric.
What is hysterically funny rat hole...rudy now clarifying what he meant months after his statement and even funny you complaining what roger posted....the fact remains rudy is a mad dog liar, like trump and now realizes trumps complicity in russian BS.....just another covering his old white ass to protect himself....so sad you can't see that...
Obama's Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano & Obama's Border Patrol Chief David V. Aguilar, as well as Democrat Sen. Chuck Schumer, ALL testified in 2009 that a Bush-era steel fence erected along border in El Paso had slashed illegal entries & crime from Mexico
Wow, walls worked then.
And still do now.
And are these people immoral ? Or did morality change when Trump became president ?
TDS ???
Given the fact that the wall alone is increasingly unlikely to be an effective method for border control, all the people who support his campaign promises are using right wing rhetoric.
You got this one wrong, Rog...
"Given the lie" would be more appropriate.
The FACT is that in places where this is a border barrier, the crossings diminish by upwards of 95% and it takes about 10% of the resources to patrol, that it does for open borders.
This is why Border Security Agency has always and still do suggest not only that it is important, but that it's the first priority. Everything else works "around" the fact that they would like a physical barrier.
I have to ask you a serious question Rog.
Given:
- All facts state that a barrier works.
- most everyone (including Schumer) supported the barrier prior to Trump.
- Those who secure the border for a living see it as the first spending priority.
Do you actually "believe" what the Democrats are saying?
or
Do you know it's a lie, but go along because you want to see Trump lose the fight?
I mean seriously Rog?
Are you braindead or brainwashed?
As usual the rhetoric by Breitbart is a way to support the investigation into alleged wrongdoing by the Clinton campaign was not investigated by the FBI. They did investigate the allegations and they found no evidence to support the alleged crimes.
They keep claiming that the deep state conspiracy theory to take down Trump is the motivation behind the investigations into the Russian intervention and possible collision by the campaign and the candidate Trump. The bombshell story by the New York times reported on the motive for the investigation was triggered by the President and his actions in response to the requests of the Russian government.
What the President is proposing is contrary to American values.
really?
huh.
where i come from national security and national sovereignty are paramount american values.
they're codified in our founding and are core to the responsibilities of every american president.
look alky, i know you guys need the votes. i get that. you just don't get to do an end-run around our constitution to get them. and the fact that you are so desperate to get those votes illegally speaks volumes about your true motivations.
They did investigate the allegations and they found no evidence to support the alleged crimes.
as trump would say -
WRONG.
they found a veritable mountain of evidence. they CHOSE NOT TO prosecute. comey publicly recited the violations chapter and verse.
you even have to lie about this, eh?
The Russians constructed a wall between East and West Germany. It had armed security guards with permission to use deadly force were not very effective in keeping people from seeking asylum.
Unfortunately, it was very effective in keeping people from seeking freedom in the west.
Most everyone (including Schumer) supported the superior border control prior to Trump. A fact.
You have been claiming that the Democrats are supporting open borders in the past,
but not now! A lie.
Your own comment is in contradiction to your usual rhetoric.
I mean seriously Scott?
I want us to have effective border protection.
You support the wall, only because Trump made a campaign promise.
Are you braindead or brainwashed?
it was very effective in keeping people
And I always thought it was the gun fire from the armed guards posted on every inch of the barrier!!!!
My sister in law was born in East Germany and she and her family escaped from East Germany.
Do you support the use of deadly force in border control? rrb has supported the use of deadly force. Scott, do you agree?
If so, you are just as dictatorial as the Russians.
Holly Ringo
No TSA, No Coast Guard, No Air Traffic Control, No EPA...what could go wrong!?
By Kevin Voldness :
I just hope you Redhats are proud of the anti-American Russian spy you cheated into the White House. When there are NO privately-held, Mom & Pop businesses, ISIS is free to do as they please because there's no one to stop them, and we're all scrounging for our next meal while that SOB builds The Steel Curtain (Trump's version of the Iron Curtain you've all so conveniently forgotten), remember I told you so. Banking regulations are back to pre-Obama levels; you're probably all gonna lose your homes. You'll be stuck with oil, coal, and natural gas, at the mercy of the multinational corporations burying clean energy because they can't rape us unless they control everything, and when you finally discover that the liars you so proudly defend used you to drive this country to it's knees, I hope you feel as bad as I do, mourning for the way of life you sold us out to the most dishonest, unethical group of evildoers in American history because you couldn't bear the idea that EVERYONE is entitled to a decent life in the richest country in the world.
So much for Trump's phony economic boom: I hope you used the last few paychecks you got wisely, because your Orange Horror pretender to the Presidency sold the country to the highest bidder, and we're all fucked. I just want to thank you for trashing the American Dream in favor of some bullshit feeling of security, a feeling you'll wish you'd ignored before their true agenda came to pass. You'll die thousands of deaths because of your stingy cowardice, and you'll rue the day you turned this great nation over to the proven liars I and the other smart folks tried to warn you about.
I just hope I don't have to live to see it, but I'm sure I will. Let's just give the bastard his wall and get used to the low standard of living that will come with it. If you thought you had it bad before, remember that YOU put the US government in the hands of the biggest rip-off con man you could find. Blame Obama, blame Clinton, blame Bush, but don't forget how good you had it before your fake idol took over.
Please, take the mark so we'll know you for what you are. It's coming; you'll need it to prove you're a citizen, and I hope you do well before you get thrown into the fire.
I want us to have effective border protection.
And yet you oppose the most effective piece of that protection. The one piece that makes all the other pieces effective.
That's how we know you're full of bullshit.
The bombshell story by the New York times reported on the motive for the investigation was triggered by the President and his actions in response to the requests of the Russian government.
your "bombshell" has backfired on the FBI and their behavior in a big way. you obviously have only been watching MSDNC seeking updates on the story.
The Times breathlessly frames its story as the revelation that Trump might have been “secretly working on behalf of Russia.” Right on cue, the anti-Trump fraternity went into full-swivet mode. Probably the most comical contribution to this almanack of rhetorical incontinence was written by Max Boot, who offered “18 Reasons Why Trump Could Be a Russian Asset.” Reason number one: that Trump, the head of a multi-billion dollar real-estate development company with interests all over the world, had business dealings with Russia. Excellent, Max!
In fact, though, what the Times story revealed was simply that, pace repeated assurances by James Comey, Trump was the target of the investigation from the beginning. As McCarthy notes, “the only thing the story shows is that the FBI, after over a year of investigation, simply went overt about something that had been true from the first. The investigation commenced during the 2016 campaign by the Obama administration—the Justice Department and the FBI—was always about Donald Trump.” Moreover,
"The FBI and DOJ knew this would be controversial—the incumbent administration spying on the opposition campaign in the absence of corroborated evidence of a crime."
Let’s pause to ponder that last bit: “spying on the opposition campaign in the absence of corroborated evidence of a crime.” “Controversial”? You think? How about nefarious and probably criminal? Richard Nixon is unavailable for comment.
In a way, you have to admire the cunning of the Obama minions. Faced with exposure of their “controversial” tactic, they went to work. “[T]hey designed the investigation,” McCarthy explains,
"in a way that allowed them to focus on Trump without saying they were doing so. Before Trump was elected, they papered the files to indicate that they were focusing on the Trump campaign or people connected to it, like Page and Papadopoulos. This way, they could try to collect evidence about Trump without formally documenting that Trump was the target."
In other words, we are staring into the bowels of the biggest political scandal in the history of the United States. Americans pride themselves on living in a republic in which the peaceful transfer of power is a hallmark of our political life. But what we have here is an effort by one administration to thwart that process. Remember: there was no crime. There was always only the Steele Dossier, that rancid pile of slander that was paid for by Trump’s political opponents. That was the stated basis for the FISA warrants: uncorroborated rumor instigated and circulated by the Clinton campaign.
https://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/watergate-by-any-other-name/
FBI attorney james baker is being investigated. andrew mccabe has yet to escape the possibility of prosecution. and that's not the half of it.
the old gray whore's FBI bombshell has done more to shine a light on the criminality of the FBI than anything to date. when your entire prosecutorial mission's blueprint is the punchline to a wisecrack - trump joking that the russians need to share hillary's emails during a press conference - the jig is really up and we know that it's been the FBI that's been breaking the law all along.
Blame Obama, blame Clinton, but don't forget how good your blog had it before your fake idol took over.
This describes Scott to a tee.
Pajamas Media and Breitbart are not exactly credible.
NRO had a similar take. But to you it it does not fit your pre-conceived narrative then it's not credible.
Pajamas Media and Breitbart are not exactly credible.
and this is your go to line to relieve yourself of having to disprove their assertions.
you're a fraud, alky.
a fraud who's so laughable he copy/pastes a facebook rant from this fucking freak:
https://twitter.com/kevinvoldness
nice pic. he looks stable.
he has 123 followers and you're one of them.
LOL.
Blame Obama, blame Clinton, believe that the Fbi/doj practice partisan investigations.
Put your words in action and join the border control and shoot as many beaners as possible.
Another so fucking what by 2 losers on the right......seems to me the 2 idiots are leaking information and should be locked up.....idiots...
according to new information released by Republicans on the House Oversight Committee.
Two of President Donald Trump's Republican allies on Capitol Hill are raising questions about a leak investigation involving Baker in a letter to the Justice Department on Tuesday. Baker has become a central focus of some Republicans recently as his closed-door testimony to lawmakers last fall confirmed that top officials at the FBI were concerned that the President may have been working to benefit Russia, particularly after the firing of FBI Director James Comey.
In a letter to US Attorney John Durham, Reps. Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan of the conservative House Freedom Caucus cite a previously undisclosed portion of Baker's transcript where his lawyer interjected to say: "he's been the subject of a leak investigation that is ... still active at the Justice Department."
Roger
"630 miles of border fence made our southern border far more secure because it created a significant barrier to illegal immigration."
This was a Chuck Schumer quote.
Proof positive that the Chuckster used to support a wall prior to Trump becoming President.
You continue to show your cognitive dissonance by simply refusing to accept reality.
Reality - these border barriers work by statistical evidence
Reality - Border agents and the border agency are strongly in favor of more spending on the border barrier.
Reality - Democrats like Chuck Schumer were for the border barrier "before" Trump became for it.
Now you can choose to accept these facts (and they are all undisputed facts) or you can continue to wallow in your cognitive dissonance and bias confirmation.
You know... where you just "type" something stating that the wall doesn't work (without citing any reasonable evidence to back the statement)... as if repeating it enough makes it true.
I have 1,704 follows.
How many people are stupid enough to follow you?
Roger
If you actually wanted effective border security.
Then you would provide the funding and allow the border security agency and those who are in charge decide how to use the funding in a manner that they feel would best help them do their jobs.
If the Democrats are correct, then the border security agency will not use any funds to build a wall, they would simply use the funds in the same manner that Democrats suggest that they should.
But of course, the Democrats would never allow the people who are in charge of this to make their "own" decisions... because they know that those in charge of border security don't agree with them.
So they want to chop them off at the knees... and call their security tactics "immoral"
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I have 1,704 follows.
How many people are stupid enough to follow you?
good for you ,alky. i'm assuming that's your total from day one. i've seen your feed. if i didn't know better i'd swear it was owned by a 12 year old girl.
so i guess that's one measure of a successful life. especially one that drank itself to a liver transplant.
i exist without the trappings of twitter or fakebook - both platforms that despise and de-platform conservatives - and with the liver God gave me.
so who's really the stupid one, liver transplant boy?
Put your words in action and join the border control and shoot as many beaners as possible.
stop smearing the border patrol, alky.
they don't shoot beaners, they apprehend them. and then our immigration courts set them free to maim and kill Americans with your approval. all in exchange for them voting democrat.
You keep siting short walls between Israel and the Palestinians in support for the President and his campaign promises.
The support for a significant barrier to illegal immigration." is not support for a highly expensive border wall.
I could use the same personal attacks.
The bottom line is that you support his campaign promises, despite the facts. It's pure politics.
here's some logic that even roger might be able to comprehend:
Democratic opposition to construction of a border wall is ostensibly based on three primary contentions: a border wall (1) is immoral, (2) doesn’t work, and (3) is racist.
The first two contentions are utterly nonsensical for a host of reasons, not the least of which is that they can’t both be true. If a wall is immoral because it keeps out desperate migrants, then it must work.
The accusation of “racist,” progressives’ default epithet for nearly everything they oppose, is similarly incoherent. It’s true that there would be a disparate impact on “people of color” if a wall were built on the southern border. But to paraphrase Willie Sutton, that’s where the illegal immigrants are. A wall is colorblind.
The Left habitually conflates facially neutral policies that have racially disparate results with racism. That’s because more than half a century after passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, instances of disparate treatment and intentional racial discrimination are increasingly difficult to find. Disparate impact is a far easier standard to meet. As my colleague Gail Heriot says, there’s not a standard, test, or policy that doesn’t have disparate impacts between different groups. Invoking disparate impact provides the Left with almost unlimited opportunities to engage in racial and social engineering to “correct” the disparities.
The same progressives who maintain that a wall is racist are utterly silent about the adverse impact of illegal immigration on black Americans. More than any other group in America, blacks are harmed by the influx of illegal immigrants. Numerous studies outline the economic impact of illegal immigration on black employment and wages. Hundreds of thousands of black workers have been displaced due to competition from low-skilled illegal immigrants, particularly in the service, hospitality, construction, and agricultural sectors of the economy. Yet not one protest from members of the Congressional Black Caucus, who have anointed themselves the guardians of black interests, nothing from the Democratic party that takes black votes for granted, nothing from members of news media who breathlessly broadcast any racial disparity under some version of the headline “World Ends; Women and Minorities Hardest Hit.”
In contrast to neutral policies that have an unintentional racial impact, however, the failure to secure our borders happens with knowledge of, but indifference to, the fact that blacks are particularly harmed by illegal immigration.
Blacks simply can’t compete with progressives’ hatred of Trump and desire to enhance their electoral prospects.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/situational-racism-part-cxvii/
I'm not smearing the border patrol.
I'm exposing a hate filled racist who has endorsed the use of deadly force against families and children as a deterrent to further illegal immigrants, many who eventually will become citizens who may vote for Democrats.
You are “racist,”
Roger Amick said...
You keep siting short walls between Israel and the Palestinians in support for the President and his campaign promises.
short in height or length?
if you're talking height, it's 25 ft. tall.
and it works...
The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Israel Security Agency report that in 2002, there were 452 fatalities from terrorist attacks. Before the completion of the first continuous segment (July 2003) from the beginning of the Second Intifada, 73 Palestinian suicide bombings were carried out from the West Bank, killing 293 Israelis and injuring over 1,900. After the completion of the first continuous segment through the end of 2006, there were only 12 attacks based in the West Bank, killing 64 people and wounding 445.[6] Terrorist attacks declined in 2007[6] and 2008[51] to 9 in 2010.[52]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier
Roger...
Are you ever going to address the actual facts?
- these border barriers work by statistical evidence
- Border agents and the border agency are strongly in favor of more spending on the border barrier.
- Democrats like Chuck Schumer were for the border barrier "before" Trump became for it.
Or are you just going to continue with the cognitive dissonance that requires you to change the subject, project your feelings on others, and basically ignore the truth?
A wall is colorblind.
You are not.
I'm not smearing the border patrol.
Put your words in action and join the border control and shoot as many beaners as possible.
Yes, you were Alky.
Siting the very words of Chuck The support for a significant barrier to illegal immigration." is not support for a highly expensive border wall. Is not ignoring the truth.
Roger Amick said...
I'm not smearing the border patrol.
I'm exposing a hate filled racist who has endorsed the use of deadly force against families and children as a deterrent to further illegal immigrants, many who eventually will become citizens who may vote for Democrats.
you told me to join the border patrol so i could shoot beaners, explicitly implying that shooting beaners is standard border patrol practice. it is not.
but at least your revealed your true motives for opposing the wall -
"many who eventually will become citizens who may vote for Democrats."
My words "shoot as many beaners as possible"
Were quoting rrb
shooting beaners is standard border patrol practice. it is not.
But you wish it was.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
A wall is colorblind.
You are not.
wrong again, alky.
i encourage every individual who wishes to emigrate to the US to do so LAWFULLY.
any color, any creed, any race, any religion. even islam. gosh, we even have a hamas caucus in congress now. to folks like you that's "progress."
if your very first act in coming to my country is to break my country's laws, you're telling me you do not respect my country. not even a little bit. and in that case i don't want you here. and yeah, i fully reserve the use of deadly force to keep you out because if you're coming here illegally, you're not an immigrant. you're an invader.
contrary to the democrats belief that the enforcement of laws is selective and arbitrary, i'm an advocate of enforcing laws equally and for all.
for chrissakes alky, it's not my fault that LBJ's "great society" was not enough to buy the votes you needed for a permanent democrat majority. so don't feel entitled to break the law just to make up for it.
You think so:
"the border control and shoot as many beaners as possible."
Or you have no idea how subject-verb-predicate works in English.
Roger continues to ignore the fact that...
Schumer was for the wall before he was against it.
In 2013, Congress again tried to pass immigration reform. Again the effort failed. The border security proposals of that so-called “Gang of Eight” bill would have increased dramatically, doubling the number of full-time border patrol agents to more than 38,400. It also would have added to the construction of a physical border, including double fencing. And it would have added to the amount of virtual security like drones and mobile surveillance.
That bill would have set aside a whopping $46.3 billion over ten years to move toward the more militarized border. But with the federal government now spending nearly $4 billion per year on border security, it’s not much less than what the Gang of Eight would have hoped.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-s-wall-would-add-billions-u-s-spends-border-n640251
The time is now
Schemer was for the wall before he was against it.
Another lil Scotty lie......why don't you post the exact thing he was for instead of making shit up!!! Here since you are too lazy to do it by yourself....try this and then get back to me with schumer voting for a wall.....asshole
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/
in roger's defense (yeah, you read that right) he might not be so stupid, or even suffering from cog dis, on the position he's staked out for himself, however wrong.
i think he is smart enough, just barely smart enough, to understand that to allow trump a victory on his signature issue - illegal immigration - goes a very long way towards securing trump's reelection. plus, roger is a dutiful little democrat, always putting party before country. ALWAYS.
politically, this is custer's last stand for democrats. trump MUST be defeated on this issue.
the alternative is devastating.
Thanks Denny -
Our ruling
Mulvaney said that Obama, Schumer and Clinton voted for a border wall in 2006.
They did vote for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized building a fence along about 700 miles of the border between the United States and Mexico.
Or you have no idea how subject-verb-predicate works in English.
Wow, our loser cramps, the GED, acting as a grammarian since he has nothing left but bias and stupid.....BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Mulvaney said
Thanx Lil Scotty.....what does Mick have to so with what shummer said, other than lying???? BTW....see wall used in that sentence???? ASSHOLE!!! Try again except I'd like to see a quote from shummer instead of another asshole like you.....LOLOLOLOL!!
In 2013, Congress again tried to pass immigration reform. Again the effort failed. The border security proposals of that so-called “Gang of Eight” bill would have increased dramatically, doubling the number of full-time border patrol agents to more than 38,400. It also would have added to the construction of a physical border, including double fencing. And it would have added to the amount of virtual security like drones and mobile surveillance.
yup, except for one thing -
it's extremely easy to get behind an issue that you know deep down inside has no chance of passing and/or being implemented, and that's what democrats like 0linsky, clinton and schumer did, and counted on.
they knew goddamn well there was no fucking way that what they assured us they wanted would pass or be implemented...
...until now. until TRUMP.
hence their flip-flop on the issue.
if you always operate from the perspective that democrats are being dishonest, deceptive and disingenuous, the riddle solves itself.
Reagan got fucked by democrats and had to learn the hard way.
H.W. Bush got fucked by democrats and had to learn the hard way.
trump has those two glaring examples to guide him, and therefore he's not taking the bait.
democrats: "please re-open the government so we can negotiate a resolution to this issue."
trump: "go fuck yourself."
advantage - trump.
Denny
What Trump, what the Border Security Agency wants, and what is being proposed is an expansion of the exact same sort of non-scalable steel barriers that were previously built with the money granted from previous border security bills that Schumer and other Democrats supported.
Trump has stated that he doesn't require a concrete "wall" - but rather just the border barrier as desired by the border agency.
So you are simply arguing "semantics" here, Denny.
The fact that the same structure was called a "fence" in 2006 and some are calling it a "wall" in 2019 does not change the fact that Schumer and Democrats...
supported the same exact structure in 2006 and 2013 that they currently reject in 2019.
Trump keeps giving Pelosi, Schumer and the Democrats more and more rope.
I have no idea what that's for.
Well maybe a hunch.
So you are simply arguing "semantics" here, Denny.
Shocking
GIULIANI: I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign --
CUOMO: Yes, you have.
GIULIANI: I have no idea -- I have not. I said the president of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the president of the United States committed the only crime you could commit here -- conspired with the Russians to hack the DNC.
CUOMO: First of all, crime is not the bar of accountability for a president. It’s about what you knew --
GIULIANI: Well, he didn’t collude with Russia either!
CUOMO: -- what was right, and what was wrong, and what did you deceive about? Those are going to be major considerations.
GIULIANI: The president did not collude with the Russians.
CUOMO: He said nobody had any contact, tons of people had contact. Nobody colluded, the guy running his campaign --
GIULIANI: He didn’t say nobody --
CUOMO: -- was working on an issue at the same time as the convention.
GIULIANI: He said he didn’t. He didn’t say nobody. How would you know that nobody in your campaign --
CUOMO: He actually did say that, Rudy. He said, nobody, and then he said, as far as I know.
GIULIANI: Well, as far as he knows, it’s true.
Secure fencing law.
The Secure Fence Act of 2006
The Secure Fence Act of 2006, which was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by President George W. Bush, authorized about 700 miles of fencing along certain stretches of land between the border of the United States and Mexico.
It's not just semantics as you claim.
California has one of the highest electricity cost.
Alky stands for:
Free shit for his mail order wife and him.
For open borders
For illegals voting
He is against voter ID.
It's not just semantics as you claim.
ok, have it your way, alky.
tell pelosi to cough up the $5B for a fence. trump would take that. but she won't and you know it.
wall, fence, barrier, whatever. anything that stems the flow of illegals across our southern border is not acceptable to democrats proving that IT IS about semantics.
More semantics...
Leftists Mock Trump’s ‘Fast Food’ Buffet, But Let’s FLASHBACK To When Obama Spent $65k On Hot Dogs
However, when Obama did something very similar, the media never batted an eye.
Emails from global intelligence firm Stratfor, released by WikiLeaks in 2012, show that the Obama administration spent $65,000 of taxpayer money to fly hot dogs to a private dinner party at the White House in 2009.
“RE: Get ready for ‘Chicago Hot Dog Friday,’” read the email’s subject line sent by Chief Innovation Officer Aaric S. Eisenstein.
“If we get the same ‘waitresses,’ I’m all for it!!!” replied Stratfor Vice President Fred Burton replied, asking if they would be “using the same channels.”
“I think Obama spent about $65,000 of the tax-payers money flying in pizza/dogs from Chicago for a private party at the White House not long ago, assume we are using the same channels?” he said.
https://ilovemyfreedom.org/leftists-mock-trumps-fast-food-buffet-but-lets-flashback-to-when-obama-spent-65k-on-hot-dogs/?utm_source=realjack&utm_medium=twitter
Maybe if Trump got the same "waitresses" he would have gotten better press.
John Hayward
Not only was Pelosi lying through her teeth about SOTU security, but let us savor the rich, deep irony of Democrats who refuse to secure the U.S. border complaining they don't feel safe attending a speech in Congress
Don't forget FDR served hot dogs to King George VI
Senator Rand Paul
Senator McConnell is in charge of the Senate. If Mrs. Pelosi refuses to allow the president to deliver the State of the Union in the House, I propose we move it to the Senate and make it happen!
the Obama administration spent $65,000 of taxpayer money to fly hot dogs to a private dinner party at the White House in 2009.
while trump paid out of his own pocket for the clemson feast.
It was for a double layer reinforced fence you idiot.
A rose by any other name...
Bingo.
Roger
What the Border Security Agency is wanting, and what Trump is asking for...
Is repairs, fill ins, and an expansion of
THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF BARRIER THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT!!!!
The steel unscalable fencing/wall/barrier that currently exists.
Are you so infected with TDS as to believe because they called in a fence in 2006 vs a wall or barrier in 2019 that this somehow actually changes something?
No wait... nevermind.
Of course you are that stupid.
any chance we can get an ELECTRIFIED fence?
i'm a big fan of re-fried beans...
Rat...
I think you mean refried beaners?
But we all know that this joke is politically incorrect and socially irresponsible. Shame on you! I think everyone here is disappointed at your unexpected lurch from your usual pristine behavior.
Ahem...
Under President Donald Trump's administration, thousands more kids may have been separated from their parents at the border under the Trump administration than was previously thought, according to an internal government report released Thursday, with a "steep increase" of such cases a year before "zero tolerance" began.
The latest findings by the Health and Human Services Inspector General's office suggests that tough immigration policies embraced early in Trump's term contributed to the family separations.
WHO CARES, DON"T COME HERE ILLEGALLY
So Roger...
Cognitive Dissonance continues to force you to simply change the subject when you are shown to be factually ignorant, factually illogical, and factually incorrect.
Is the whole point that you are wrong so often that it just doesn't bother you anymore?
Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) agents were able to apprehend a previously deported child sex offender who tried re-entering the country with a group of other foreign nationals.
A CBP camera operator on Jan. 11 discovered 24 individuals illegally crossing into the United States near the San Luis, Arizona, Port of Entry. The caravan, which was made up mostly of Central American family units, immediately surrendered when confronted by agents.
Among the group was Marcos Velasquez-Taperio, a 37-year-old Guatemalan national who was convicted of aggravated indecent liberties with a minor in Ford County, Kansas, in 2009. After serving 32 months in prison, Velasquez-Taperio was deported to his home country. CBP, which reported the arrest Wednesday, said Velasquez-Taperio will now be prosecuted for re-entry after deportation.
News of the arrest immediately followed the apprehension of Wilfredo Perez-Aguilar, another sex offender from Guatemala. Perez-Aguilar, who was caught Monday trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border in Southern California, was convicted in 2005 of sexual abuse and rape of a minor under the age of 12 in Kentucky.
A bystander, Roger Amick of W. Covina CA was quoted as saying - "I don't see what the big deal is. These people are simply trying to come here for a better life and to vote Democrat. That's worth a few child rape victims if you ask me."
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/17/cbp-agents-catch-sex-offender/
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Under President Donald Trump's administration, thousands more kids may have been separated from their parents at the border under the Trump administration than was previously thought, according to an internal government report released Thursday, with a "steep increase" of such cases a year before "zero tolerance" began.
not a single child is separated from their parents if they stay the fuck home to begin with, alky.
Not a good day for Democrats
Brent Scher
Buried a bit in this story on Sheila Jackson Lee retaliating against a girl who said a CBC staffer raped her: The guy accused of rape most recently was political director for @BetoORourke
The Titanic Hypocrisy of the Republican Party
Tom Nichols: “This is not normal, in any way. As things stand, more people in the Kremlin than in Washington know what Trump said to Putin. It is almost certain that there are readouts and analyses of Trump’s discussions with Putin — but that for now, they are in Russian.
“Finally, it is exhausting but nonetheless necessary to point out again the titanic hypocrisy of the Republican Party and of Trump’s apologists in the conservative media. If President Barack Obama had shredded his notes of a meeting with the Iranian president, or if Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager were sitting in jail for lying about meeting a Chinese business associate — and alleged intelligence officer — to share polling data, that alone would have been enough for the GOP to impeach everyone from the president to the White House chef.”
The guy accused of rape most recently was political director for @BetoORourke
nice!
the parallels with the kennedy's continue to build. first the teeth, then the alcoholism and driving skills, and now the rape.
uncanny.
Cohen Paid Liberty University Official to Rig Polls
January 17,
President Trump’s former fixer and personal attorney Michael Cohen paid a technology expert to rig online polls in Trump’s favor, the Wall Street Journal reports.
John Gauger, the owner of Red Finch Solutions and chief information officer at Liberty University, said Cohen offered him $50,000 to rig two online polls. Cohen handed Gauger a Walmart bag loaded with about $12,000 in cash during a 2015 meeting at Cohen’s Trump Organization office, but he never paid him the remainder of the promised $50,000.
'The Atlantic’ Calls for Trump’s Impeachment
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The Atlantic, in its cover story: “The Founders worried about electing a president who lacked character or a sense of honor, but Americans have long since lost the moral vocabulary to articulate such concerns explicitly, preferring to look instead for demonstrable violations of rules that illuminate underlying character flaws. It is Trump’s unfitness for office that necessitates impeachment; his attacks on American democracy are plainly evident, and should be sufficient.
“But some Republican senators may continue to dismiss the more sweeping claims against the president, particularly where no statutory crimes attach. And so the strength of the evidence supporting narrower charges such as obstruction of justice and campaign-finance violations may ultimately determine his fate. If the committee can substantiate these charges, it will place even the most reluctant senators in a bind. When the moment finally comes to cast their vote, and the world is watching, how many will acquit the president of things he has clearly done?”
Only black people eat fast food.
https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/espn-host-says-donald-trump-giving-clemson-football-players-fast-food-was-racist/
Steny Hoyer says border walls not 'immoral,' breaks with Nancy Pelosi"
He also said fence/wall are effective.
Sean Davis
Well well well. It looks like Mueller's top prosecutor was in on the ground floor of the Hillary Clinton-funded Fusion GPS/ Steele dossier operation back in 2016.
http://thefederalist.com/2019/01/17/top-mueller-officials-coordinated-with-fusion-gps-spouse-in-2016/
A senior Department of Justice official says he repeatedly and specifically told top officials at the FBI and DOJ about dossier author Christopher Steele’s bias and his employer Fusion GPS’ conflicts of interest, information they kept hidden from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. These conversations involved high-level officials, including some who are now senior officials in the special counsel probe. And the conversations began taking place in the earliest days of August 2016, much earlier than previously revealed to congressional investigators seeking to learn the facts about the FBI’s decision to spy on the Trump campaign.
If President Barack Obama had shredded his notes of a meeting with the Iranian president, or if Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager were sitting in jail for lying about meeting a Chinese business associate — and alleged intelligence officer — to share polling data, that alone would have been enough for the GOP to impeach everyone from the president to the White House chef.”
“This is my last election ... After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.
“I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure.
that one's my all time fave. nothing trump has done re: russia even comes close to that.
oh, and pederast - nichols is a cuckservative soy boi like max boot. not to be taken seriously.
Shem Horne
If we end up discovering that a fired and disgraced ex FBI deputy director and his team of fired and disgraced FBI employees actually spied on the sitting President of the USA (with no evidence of a crime) and the media blames Trump for it, journalism will never recover. Ever.
Emerald Robinson
Emerald Robinson Retweeted Shem Horne
I've been saying this for the last six months. What will the American people do when they discover that almost the entire MSM has been deliberately lying about Spygate for two years?
The Shutdown Has Taken a Toll on Trump
First Read: “Many of us in the political community have grown numb to how poll numbers about Trump rarely change — most Americans made up their minds about the president in his first few months in office, and those opinions have barely budged since then.
“But don’t let that reality distract you from the clear evidence that this shutdown has chipped away at Trump’s numbers.
“As we learned in 2018, an approval rating in the low 40s is a terrible place for a president and his party to be. And right now, it’s worse than that.”
Omg, as triggered as Alky over some blue collar food at the WH.
Pres. Trump should have served beer.
Rat the convicted raper said:
that one's my all time fave. nothing trump has done re: russia even comes close to that.
___________________
Trump's said things so bad he doesn't even want his own people to know about it.
Hoyer, #2 in the US House:
"Obviously, they work [in] some places,” Mr. Hoyer, Maryland Democrat, said Wednesday evening on Fox News when pressed about Mr. Trump’s border wall plan. “But the president wanted to first build a wall — apparently 1,954 miles of [wall] — and he changed that very substantially.”
Nick Short
Flashback from OIG report last year, appears 7 separate reporters had 331 contacts with 54 different FBI personnel during the time periods of April/May and October 2016. Who were these reporters and FBI employees?
All this illegal leaking and all this verified contacts....
UNMASK THESE REPORTERS and FBI PERSONNEL
Trump's said things so bad he doesn't even want his own people to know about it.
yet YOU know about it?
that makes no sense, pederast.
"Obviously, they work [in] some places,” Mr. Hoyer, Maryland Democrat, said Wednesday evening on Fox News when pressed about Mr. Trump’s border wall plan
The Wall is going to destroy the Democrats
But they will squeal louder first.
ROFLMFAO !!!
Yep
Lol, President Trump denied Nancy Polosi US Aircraft for overseas travel.
Good. F the Left.
Trump cancel Pelosi's joyride to Brussels.
Guess she's going to have to see the pyramids on her own dime.
LMAO Trump's letter to pelosi.
No one out trumps trump.
LOL.
the feckless old cunt must be PISSED.
and the alky told us that she was kicking trump's ass.
ha!
That's awesome
btw, mini-stroke nancy was supposed to leave TODAY.
heh.
the left is losing their shit. i mean REALLY losing their shit...
The latest front in Russian infiltration: America’s right-wing homeschooling movement
This is the latest connection between Russia and the American religious right.
https://thinkprogress.org/americas-biggest-right-wing-homeschooling-group-has-been-networking-with-sanctioned-russians-1f2b5b5ad031/
You do know this is the web site Roger gets most of his conspiracy theories from.
This one is a dozy.
of course. the alky was my inspiration for posting it.
https://twitter.com/BetosBlog
someone set up a beano o'rourke parody account. it's very well done.
Haters are exposed.
Conservatives’ bizarre, escalating obsession with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) reached a new level this week when The Daily Caller published fake revenge porn of the new congresswoman.
“Here’s The Photo Some People Described As A Nude Selfie Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,” the Caller’s original headline read, before it was changed and the site posted a “we regret the error” message on Twitter. For the record, the photo is not of Ocasio-Cortez, despite what “some people” have said.
Since Ocasio-Cortez, a 29-year-old working-class democratic socialist, unexpectedly toppled powerful white male incumbent Joe Crowley in a June primary, she’s become an object of fixation among Republicans, especially Republican men. Conservative writer Ed Scarry posted a photo of her backside on Twitter, questioning whether her black suit was befitting of a “girl who struggles.” Right-wing media discovered that she ― like a lot of people named “Alexander,” “Alexandra” or some variant thereof ― went by the nickname “Sandy” in high school. A self-proclaimed “proud Christian Dad” on Twitter circulated a video of her dancing in a T-shirt in college as if it would be a career-damaging revelation. A Republican strategist referred to her as “the little girl” on Fox News, which runs segments about her constantly.
She's not a "working-class socialist", she's a spoiled, rich, privaliged socialist.
She only working-class she was ever exposed to are her gardeners and lawn-men.
alky,
we're not obsessed with her as much as the left would like to say so.
she, like you, is a fucking clod.
she tried to storm cocaine mitch's office yesterday with motherfucker bin al kaboom and some other hamas twat, and they couldn't even find the fucking thing.
she's so smart she's gonna "run train" on the GOP with her agenda.
TOP DEFINITION
run train
to "gangbang" a girl with several friends.
Think of an actual train - one goes over the tracks, and then another. Now, say these trains were friends of some asshole, and the tracks were... you get the idea.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=run+train
so 'alex from westchester' is going to gang rape the GOP with her socialist agenda.
nice.
we're not obsessed alky. but she IS a constant source of amusement and absurdity.
Ocasio-Cortez:
I was surprised and I was annoyed because it was a new tack. They’ve been for a very long time focusing on taking quotes out of context or manipulating them or making it seem as though I said things that I didn’t say. This was different in that it was an outright fraudulent thing. You can tell that they’re getting into hysterics because now you’re getting into my actual body, which is definitely crossing a level, definitely crossing a line.
I also think it’s encouraging because this is my sixth day in Congress and they’re out of all their artillery. The nude is supposed to be like the bazooka. You know, like, “We’re going to take her down.” Dude, you’re all out of bullets, you’re all out of bombs, you’re all out of all this stuff. What have you got left? I’m six days into the term, and you already used all your ammo. So enjoy being exhausted for the next two years while we run train on the progressive agenda.
Commonsense said...
Trump cancel Pelosi's joyride to Brussels.
I can't stop laughing.
Trump owns Pelosi.
Totally.
Trump owns Pelosi.
The 2 of you are bigger assholes than trump with your sophomoric approval of trumps playing games.....stupid beyond words ....maybe she should cancel the SOU......deny the platform to asshole in chief.....maybe Jowls should vote on the bill they already passed once with a veto proof majority and let the govmt open without trumps signature......sure seems to me Mitch lost his ballz long ago.......
oh, hey rog...
stop doing this:
https://nypost.com/2019/01/17/doctors-ask-that-you-please-not-put-parsley-in-your-vagina/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow
maybe she should cancel the SOU
well denny boy, she can't cancel the SOTU. all she can do is deny trump the house chamber.
he can still use the senate chamber or the oval.
if i were trump i'd hold it at nationals park, invite the general public, charge $100/ticket with all $4M+ going straight to the border wall. the PR would be enormous, he'd sell out the venue, and the democrats would look like even BIGGER assholes than they already are.
mini-stroke nancy was supposed to leave TODAY." RRB
Love to have seen her botoxed face when she read Pres. Trumps Letter.
What was Alky saying, Nancy has the same power as This President??
Lol@Denise
She doesn't have the US Constitutional power.
The President taking away the US Federal Air Craft has triggered little acosta.
"House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) walked back his remarks in which he stated President Donald Trump’s State of the Union address was effectively canceled, telling the Fox News Channel Wednesday evening that the planned speech was, in fact, “not officially off.”
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