When you lost the Washington Post
And Pelosi just lost the Washington Post!
Mr. Trump’s offer should be welcomed but not accepted as the final word. There should be room to talk about the amount of money; how border security will be defined and enhanced; which categories of dreamers and TPS beneficiaries are covered; what their legal status will be, and for how long. But to refuse even to talk until the government reopens does no favors to sidelined federal workers and contractors.
Unquestionably a deal would contain galling elements for both sides; that’s the nature of compromise. But a measure of statesmanship for a member of Congress now is the ability to accept some disappointments, and shrug off the inevitable attacks from purists, if it means rescuing the lives of thousands of deserving people living among us.
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Trump popularity soaring among Latinos.
You won't hear it from the media. No kidding, they're a big part of the problem.
Trump’s Slippage In Support Is Real
Bruce Gyory:
“Trump’s job approval rating is down to 31 percent among independents in Gallup. His approval ratings in Rasmussen are down from the 48-49 percent range of late last year to the 43-44 percent level of the past week or so. The Marist data for PBS shows a drop of 10 percent in job approval among Republicans and a decline of 11 percent among white evangelicals and 17% among suburban men.
“And Trump continues to enrage the Dem base while this erosion in his base continues to progress. Blue collar white men being turned off from Trump shouldn’t surprise anyone, for they know the difficulty of living paycheck to paycheck. This, plus the skew of the tax cut package, spells political trouble for Trump long term, especially if a slow down, much less a recession, looms in 2020.
“As an aside, it’s fair to ask why hasn’t this decline in the polls registered more with pundits and pols. I wonder if it’s because Gallup is not doing daily tracking polls anymore? In any case, Trump’s decline in the polls is significant precisely because slow declines are like weight gain. The quick gain of 5 pounds on a vacation can be easily shed. The slower gain of 10 pounds over a long winter can be brutal to reverse. As can the slow and steady erosion of your political standing.”
Exchange of the Day
BuzzFeed News reporter Anthony Cormier told Brian Stelter on CNN that he’s confident in reporting that President Trump told Michael Cohen to lie to Congress, despite the challenge from special counsel Robert Mueller’s office that claimed the story was inaccurate.
CORMIER: “This story is accurate.”
STELTER: “What if the sources are just wrong?
CORMIER: “They’re not.”
STELTER: “Not intentionally. Not trying to hurt you, but what if they’re wrong?”
CORMIER: “They’re not. They’re not. I’m confident.”
Meanwhile, Marcy Wheeler suggests the special counsel issued his unprecedented statement in an attempt to preserve Cohen’s ability to testify at trial.
Polosi is a Socialist as is her party. Taken there by Obama.
Voters Not Blaming Democrats for Shutdown
Playbook:
“Democrats have been telling us that they are looking at polling that indicates they are hardly getting any blame for the shutdown. That could change soon if it looks like Republicans are making offers and Democrats are sitting pat.”
What is the Polosi Offer?
Oh Roger where did you prance off to:
"If he agreed with the bill that has already passed both houses
There is no bill that has passed both houses.
Or it would have come to him to sign.
Are you suggesting that he vetoed a previous bill?"
CHT
OMG!! James is still pushing the fantasy Trump story 24 hours after it's been debunked.
That's a serious case of TDS.
Or a stupid old man
Schiff May Subpoena Michael Cohen
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff told CBS News that he will subpoena President Trump’s former longtime attorney Michael Cohen to testify before his committee “if necessary.”
Cohen is already slated to testify before the House Oversight Committee next month prior to the start of his three-year prison sentence.
BTW the Exchange of the Day above appeared at 3:15 today.
Schiff May Subpoena Michael Cohen
James seems to think that this is some sort of a big deal. But in reality there's not much of anything he can talk about that is not already covered by the Mueller investigation. And he can't talk about that.at all.
House Homeland Security Committee chairman Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS) said he “would not rule out a wall in certain instances” as part of a deal to end the partial government shutdown."
Polosi will be pulled from her corner to deal.
Jane , can you get ON Topic.
Stop hating, it hurts God.
"3:15" ?
Can you post it again?
Mr. Trump’s offer should be welcomed but not accepted as the final word.
If you actually believe what he said.
This makes more sense than Washington Post editorial board said.
Nancy Pelosi should negotiate with Ann Coulter.
KD: Stop hating, it hurts God.
Like when you called Obama a black monkey in the White House and his wife a cheap Chicago W.?
The game is tied!!!!!!
Kput'z uses racial slurs all the time.
KD said...
Polosi is a Socialist as is her party.
YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON!!!!!
The Los Angeles Rams are going to the Super Bowl!
Saints robbed by NFL
The referee missed a clear pass interference call.
A Dealmaker Who Can’t Make a Deal
January 20, 2019 at 6:33 pm EST
Washington Post: “Trump’s management of the partial government shutdown — his first foray in divided government — has exposed as never before his shortcomings as a dealmaker. The president has been adamant about securing $5.7 billion in public money to construct his long-promised border wall, but has not won over congressional Democrats, who consider the wall immoral and have refused to negotiate over border security until the government reopens.
“The 30-day shutdown — the impacts of which have begun rippling beyond the federal workforce into everyday lives of millions of Americans — is defining the second half of Trump’s term and has set a foundation for the nascent 2020 presidential campaign.
“The shutdown also has accentuated several fundamental traits of Trump’s presidency: His apparent shortage of empathy, in this case for furloughed workers; his difficulty accepting responsibility for a crisis he had said he would be proud to instigate; his tendency for revenge when it comes to one-upping political foes; and his seeming misunderstanding of Democrats’ motivations.”
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New York Times: “In business and governing, Trump seeks victory in chaos.
”No Daylight Between Chuck and Nancy
Politico: “Republicans have tried to drive a wedge between the duo for more than a month now. They’ve cast Schumer as eager to cut a deal and Pelosi as an impediment. They’ve floated the idea that Pelosi would be more willing to compromise after she was elected speaker. Trump tried again on Saturday, pitching temporary protections for Dreamers and other immigrants, in exchange for $5.7 billion in border wall funding.
“None of it has worked.
“Democrats believe the only way to get the president to cave on the wall and reopen the government is to stick together, a plan they reiterated when they rejected Trump’s latest proposal. And by setting a model of unity, Schumer and Pelosi have kept moderates in their caucuses from breaking ranks and underscored how difficult it will be for Trump to get Democrats to fold.”
Trump has lost Ann Coulter.
Ann Coulter
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100 miles of border wall in exchange for amnestying millions of illegals. So if we grant citizenship to a BILLION foreigners, maybe we can finally get a full border wall.
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He will rescind his amnesty request for the Dreamers on his Tuesday Twitter Storm.
He's a master negotiator!
The President has other people making his decisions for him. He threw Pence under the bus for Mark Meadows, Trump whisperer
The conservative lawmaker talks to Trump more many senior aides do, sometimes spending an hour-plus on the phone or speaking multiple times a day.
By GABBY ORR 01/20/2019 06:53 AM EST Updated 01/20/2019 09:09 AM EST
When Mark Meadows didn’t get President Donald Trump’s chief of staff gig, he wasn’t losing out on much.
Just 10 days later, the powerful conservative lawmaker managed to engineer what has become the longest-running government shutdown ever — persuading Trump to pull the trigger right as the partial closure was on the brink of being avoided.
Meadows picked up the phone to make his move just after Vice President Mike Pence had told lawmakers over lunch on Dec. 19 — two days before government funding would expire — that Trump was prepared to sign a clean spending bill to keep the government open through early February. The North Carolina Republican, who helped shutter the government in 2013 during a revolt against Obamacare, wasn’t prepared to back away from demanding funds for a border wall. And despite Pence’s clear-as-day comments, he assumed the president wasn’t either.
Meadows was right.
The following day, at Meadows’ urging, Trump said he would veto any short-term funding bill that didn’t include $5.7 billion to build a wall along the southern border, a campaign chant-turned-top policy priority. Republican leaders scuttled a press conference planned to announce their agreement to keep the government open. A day later, a quarter of the federal government shutdown. Nearly a month later, little has changed.
The freedom caucus still has control over the President. He has other advisers who like Pence want him to actually negotiate on the government shutdown and leave the border security act later. I know that none of you want him to actually negotiate with Pelosi because she's a socialist lol .
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/20/mark-meadows-trump-shutdown-1116057
So Roger...
Politico provided you with some inside information that Trump was willing to sign a clean spending bill...
But yet Trump never (himself) ever actually stated as much?
Is this your idea of a bill that passed both houses?
A story out of Politico?
But either way, Roger... the fact remains that the President cannot do anything until Congress (House and Senate) agree to pass "something".
You are just too gullible and too full of cognitive dissonance to see the reality. Not just how the reality exists today in this political climate:
that neither the GOP or Trump is going to agree to pass Pelosi's bill out of the house...
But also that a politico story (even if true) is not a bill that the President can sign into law...
Even a so called "clean spending bill" (whatever that actually means) would have to garner the support of 60 Senators. It doesn't have it today, and it probably didn't have it in December either.
I generally do not like the excessive penalties called on defensive backs (it's even worse in college football)... In fact, the first series of KC has one of those "holding" calls that was questionable and completely irrelevant to the play.
But the call at the end of the game was so obvious and so blatant that even I believe it had to be called, not to mention that the dback hit the receiver in the head (which should have drawn a personal foul).
Reality is that two penalties should have been called. Pass interference and personal foul. Both completely obvious right in front of the referee.
The refs (all game long) were allowing the Rams D-backs to interfere and their linebackers to go helmet to helmet (at least three obvious times I saw that were not called and I was only casually watching back and forth).
Hell, even on the interception in overtime, the D-back literally grabbed the receiver and pushed off him to make the play (another missed call).
No question that the Saints had the Super Bowl taken away from them by the Refs. Unfortunate for an otherwise well played game. Not that I like the Saints (Dirtiest coach and team in the NFL barr none).
Yesterday, President Trump announced his “offer” to end the shutdown. It wasn’t meant to be serious — it was just meant to prop up his sagging poll numbers.
Here’s how just unserious the deal he negotiated with his son-in-law, his chief of staff, his Vice President and zero Democratic Members of Congress was:
In exchange for his wall, he would give a temporary reprieve to Dreamers and refugees who have been living in fear since Trump ended policies meant to protect them. A time out from his own disastrous actions for a very permanent wall — well, that’s no deal at all.
Let’s remember why we are in this situation to begin with — one that has TSA agents and the Coast Guard working without pay to keep our nation safe and the families of federal workers in crisis after missing their paychecks. It’s because of Trump’s oft-repeated and fraudulent promise that Mexico would pay for his “big, beautiful wall.”
Now he wants to trade one fraudulent promise for another — claiming that taxpayers will be magically reimbursed for his ineffective border wall.
We are not going to buy it. The House has already voted nine times to reopen the government — without wasting taxpayer money on a concrete monument to Trump’s broken promises. It’s time Senate Republicans did the same.
Agreed
Scott, the President could bring the government shutdown down in seconds.
If he agreed to the law passed by the house and, agree to have the border security act later in a tweet.
The congress will reopen on Tuesday morning.
The million Americans who are not going to get paid on Friday and you don't fucking care.
The House has already voted nine times to reopen the government
Roger why don't you just STFU.
The New Orleans Saints were robbed.
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Roger
Are you really that stupid?
The President cannot sign a bill unless it is passed by both the House and the Senate.
The House could pass the same bill a million times, and it would not get it any closer to being a law. It has to be passed by the Senate as well.
"If he agreed to the law passed by the house "? Roger.
In the USA the US House of Representatives does not pays "laws".
Pick up a 6th grade US Government civics book.
President Donald Trump rung in Day 30 of the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, as well as the two-year anniversary of his tenure in the Oval Office, with a mammoth 40 posts to his Twitter feed over the course of Sunday.
You should actually read what I said.
Scott, the President could bring the government shutdown down in seconds. "In effect it would be open" of course I understand that the Congress has a act."
If he agreed to the law passed by the house and, agree to have the border security act later in a tweet.
The congress will "open up "the government on Tuesday morning.
But instead of understanding what I said before, in effect it would be open if not in one sense but if he would quit behaving like a child. Most furloughed employees would return to work because they would know that they would get paid on Friday.
Cognitive dissonance since Donald Trump has been President has destroyed your mind.
By the way. The Congress is the house of Representatives and the senate.
The United States Congress is a branch of government.
The House has already voted nine times to reopen the government.
McConnell has repeatedly refused to let it come to a vote.
The congress (is the house and Senate)will reopen on Tuesday morning.
Scott, are you really that stupid,?
I guess so!
In the USA the US House of Representatives does not pays "laws".
Trump is getting his ass kicked by a 78 year old woman.
In this battle, she’s winning — and Trump’s losing — on all three counts.
Since the president forced the partial shutdown of the federal government on Dec. 22, public sentiment has run against him and the wall he wants to build on the border with Mexico.
But if he’s being blamed, it’s his own fault. In a contentious meeting on Dec. 11, Trump told Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer that he’d be “proud” to shut the government over his demands for a wall.
“I will take the mantle,” Trump said as the clash played out on live TV. “I will be the one to shut it down.”
Even worse for the White House, Democratic voters are more unified on the issue than Trump’s base. The Pew survey found that 84% of anti-wall Democrats oppose any compromise that includes funding for the wall.
The speaker is prevailing in the inside game. That should not come as a surprise, since she’s one of the Democrats’ best vote counters in a generation.
Trump has never mastered the art of dealing with his own party in Congress, let alone the opposition.
He’s changed his positions on proposed legislation without warning. He’s made promises only to back down under fire from hard-line conservatives. And when the results displeased him, he often blamed his allies.
In Congress, Pelosi’s home turf, the president is out of his league.
As for underestimating Pelosi, Trump has long said he respects the speaker’s political skills. But he overestimated his chances of winning the trust of the highest-ranking elected woman in U.S. history.
At first, the president tried a charm offensive, praising Pelosi’s abilities and sparing her the schoolboy nicknames he slaps on others.
“I think you’re terrific,” he told her after the 2016 election. “You’re somebody that gets things done.”
But Pelosi kept him at arm’s length, and except for one short-term spending deal, bipartisan cooperation didn’t bloom.
When Democrats won the House majority in November, Trump tried again. At the Oval Office meeting with Pelosi and Schumer, he excused her hard-line opposition to the wall by saying she faced a tough election for the speaker’s seat.
Pelosi interrupted him. “Please don’t characterize the strength I bring to this meeting,” she said icily.
Later, she publicly compared the president to a child throwing a tantrum, and told House colleagues that the wall “is like a manhood thing for him — as if manhood would ever be associated with him.”
Her trash talk was intended strategically, an aide said, “as a way to break through.” The message was that Pelosi won’t be intimidated, even by a president.
On Saturday, signs of movement appeared but the two sides remained far apart on the central issues.
Trump proposed that Congress fund a wall in exchange for a three-year reprieve from deportation for the so-called Dreamers, immigrants who entered the country illegally as children. Pelosi called that “a nonstarter.”
Instead, she plans to pass a package of House bills that would reopen shuttered government agencies and increase spending on border security — without a wall.
Both proposals appeared intended to allow each party to claim that it’s working toward a solution, another front in the battle for public sentiment.
Pelosi’s real goal is to establish a new balance of power for the next two years — reflecting her fourth precept: “Congress is a co-equal branch of government.”
In a sense, she’s been preparing for this fight for decades. She’s served in Congress since 1987 — including 12 years as minority leader and four as speaker.
And Trump? He landed in the White House almost by accident, never planned for his presidency, and still avoids the hard work of absorbing briefings and formulating policies.
She knows how to do her job. Him, not so much. It’s not a fair fight.
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"If he agreed to the law passed by the house "? Roger.
In the USA the US House of Representatives does not pass "laws".
Pick up a 6th grade US Government civics book.
Legislation is a law.
Kput'z shut up because you keep making a fool out of yourself since soars.
If he agreed to the legislation passed by the house and, agree to have a (law) the border security act later in a tweet.
Legislation is a law
There's no law unless it passes both houses of Congress and is signed by the president.
Until then it's just a piece of paper with some ink on it.
No shit. You're just trying to excuse the President.
The public doesn't agree with your opinion on this situation.
You're just playing word games.
The deal making President looks like McDonald’s not being able to make a hamburger.
WASHINGTON — Sen. Kamala (KAH’mah-lah) Harris is running for president.
The California Democrat tells ABC’s “Good Morning America” that she’s entering the increasingly crowded field of candidates seeking the Democratic nomination. If successful, she’d be the country’s second African-American president and the first woman to hold the office.
Harris is a daughter of immigrant parents who grew up in Oakland, California. She’s portraying herself in a campaign video as a fighter for justice, decency and equality — values she says are “all on the line.”
Harris is a first-term senator and former California attorney general known for her rigorous questioning of President Donald Trump’s nominees. She’s 54.
She launches her bid as the nation observes what would have been the 90th birthday of the slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.
Copyright 2019 The Associated Press.
In order to make a deal both sides must be willing and right now Nancy Pelosi is hiding in her wall surrounded home.
Harris’s candidacy is a groundbreaking one
Born in Oakland to Indian and Jamaican immigrants, Harris is a groundbreaking candidate by all measures. She was the first African American woman to become California Attorney General, the first African American Senator California has ever elected and the second African American woman to sit on the Senate’s powerful Judiciary Committee.
Most of us don't like the way the President is handling his issue.
He's losing control of the debate.
Harris’s candidacy is a groundbreaking one
Not really, we've had members of the clown community run before.
Rog...
We go right back to "exactly" what I stated.
You EXPECT that somehow McConnell and the Senate is just supposed to take up the bill that Pelosi pushed through the house... and then obediently the President is supposed to sign it.
Your expectations are that at least 13 Republicans in the Senate should all vote with the Democrats on this bill to get it passed cloture, even though pretty much no Republicans are on record as supporting it.
You are asking for the GOP Senate and the President to provide a 100% surrender to Pelosi and the Democratic House, because you don't believe that Democrats should have to "negotiate" or "compromise".
Somehow, this (in your mind) is all under the control of Trump. That if Trump just decided to "cave in" that everyone else in the GOP would also cave in.
There is literally no more reason for the GOP and Trump to just "give in" as there is for Pelosi and the Democrats to "give in".
So no Roger. There is no bill for the President to sign.
Only a complete moron would believe that he should somehow use his power of the pulpit to back Pelosi's bill in the house. But I believe that is actually the moronic logic you are using?
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Trump is getting his ass kicked by a 78 year old woman.
how is her trip to shithole-istan going alky?
i see her shuttle bus rounded the block one time.
Most of us don't like the way the President is handling his issue.
He's losing control of the debate.
Whose "us"? And far from losing control he has quite a nice handle on it. Just look at Chuckels pathetic rationalization for not building a wall and opening the government while poor Nancy Pelosi went into the witness protection program.
You're deluding yourself again but that's OK with me.
Harris is a daughter of immigrant parents who grew up in Oakland, California.
she grew up and graduated from high school in montreal canada. not oakland. she ain't "kammy from da block."
After graduating from Montreal's Westmount High School in Quebec, Harris attended Howard University in Washington, D.C., where she majored in political science and economics.[20][21] At Howard, Harris was elected to the liberal arts student council as freshman class representative, was a member of the debate team, and joined the Alpha Chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority.[20]
Harris returned to California, earning her Juris Doctor (J.D.) from the University of California, Hastings College of the Law, in 1989.[10][22] She was admitted to the State Bar of California in 1990.[23]
that's right alky. at age 7 her mom took her to montreal where she "grew up" and graduated from high school.
so she's a liar right out of the gate.
then she went to a third rate law school and became willie brown's side piece to get ahead in politics.
very impressive credentials for a democrat.
You are asking for the GOP Senate and the President to provide a 100% surrender to Pelosi and the Democratic House, because you don't believe that Democrats should have to "negotiate" or "compromise".
trump made an offer and it was rejected out of hand. no counter offer, no good faith signal to negotiate. just NO.
fact is, mini-stroke nancy is being held hostage by the cray cray socialist/hamas wing of her party. she's scared to death of them, and they own her wrinkled old ass. the true de facto "speaker" is a 29 year old nit wit who was slinging drinks a year ago. a towering intellect who says facts don't matter as much as feelings, and everything can be free without consequence.
assholio fucktardio cortez has sucked all the air out of nancy's nursing home suite. and that's a problem, but not for trump.
Notable alumni of the Hastings College of Law include Gregg Jarrett, a FOX News Channel anchor; Richard Thalheimer,
Scott you get a little bit offended by my satire on concentration camps but you never use this in a post op .
assholio fucktardio cortez has sucked all the air out of nancy's nursing home suite. and that's a problem, but not for trump.
you know, it's almost like the word "cunt" was invented specifically for kamala-toe harris.
Scott you get a little bit offended by my satire on concentration camps but you never use this in a post op .
that's because there is never, ever anything satirical about concentration camps, alky.
never.
look, you're a liberal. you're supposed to hate the joos. i get it. but understand that outside of your shitty little existence represented by scumbags like pelosi and her newly elected hamas caucus, there are people who did experience the horror first hand. i've met some. and you can see in their eyes that the evil they endured is always with them. just like the tattoo ink on their arm.
Early stage Alzheimer's disease
look, you're a liberal. you're supposed to hate the joos. i get it. but understand that outside of your shitty little existence represented by scumbags like pelosi and her newly elected hamas caucus, there are people who did experience the horror first hand. i've met some. and you can see in their eyes that the evil they endured is always with them. just like the tattoo ink on their arm.
Roger Amick said...
Notable alumni of the Hastings College of Law include Gregg Jarrett, a FOX News Channel anchor; Richard Thalheimer,
that's supposed to be impressive?
us news ranked it #58 in 2019.
and here's the link you stole that from:
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/university-of-california-hastings-college-of-law-03015
Only a complete moron would believe that he should somehow can't use his power of the pulpit to back Pelosi's bill in the house.
One tweet
I will sign a bill without my wall to open up the government. Too many Americans are suffering!!
The legislation would be on his desk on Tuesday morning.
You don't have any logical sense. You are a moron.
#58 of how many?
Trump has a bachelor degree from a mediocre university where his professor said that he was a complete moron.
Rat the rectum posted...
then she went to a third rate law school
Coming from the Ag school drop out....that sure is rich....BWAAAAAAA!!!!
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Only a complete moron would believe that he should somehow can't use his power of the pulpit to back Pelosi's bill in the house.
only a complete moron would believe that he WOULD back her bill. and even if he did, mitch still needs a dozen republicans to back it.
which is not happening.
what's in it for him? answer - not a fucking thing.
you're an idiot alky, expecting trump to cave just because 800,000 democrats are sitting home without a paycheck.
a tweet doesn't get anything done. only his signature on the legislation does.
penn is an ivy, alky. not a bad place to get a bachelor's.
howard university?
LOL.
Why Democrats Said No to Trump’s Border Compromise
The Washington Post editorial page, normally one of Trump’s harshest critics, was puzzled by the Democratic intransigence:
To refuse even to talk until the government reopens does no favors to sidelined federal workers and contractors. . . . A measure of statesmanship for a member of Congress now is the ability to accept some disappointments, and shrug off the inevitable attacks from purists, if it means rescuing the lives of thousands of deserving people living among us.
So why are Democrats so dug in? GOP congressman Peter King, who is frequently critical of Trump, says it’s because the issue of a border wall is secondary to their hatred of Trump. “The fear is, among the Democratic leadership, if they make any agreement with President Trump, it’s like compromising with the devil,” he told New York radio station AM970.
In other words, when Democrats now hear talk of “border security,” they think only of Trump and want to make sure that their base won’t see them as surrendering to him in any way. Forget the fact that Democrats have voted for a border barrier in the past and that the $5.7 billion Trump wants is meant only for stretches that U.S. Border Patrol officials have identified as needing barriers to interdict illegal entrants and drugs.
The Democrats seem have to been captured by the thinking of radical community organizer Saul Alinsky. The author of Rules for Radicals, Alinsky inspired both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. He used to tell his protégés that “the issue is never the issue.” As historian David Horowitz notes
The cause of a political action — whether civil rights or women’s rights — is never the real cause; women, blacks, and other “victims” are only instruments in the larger cause, which is power.
Indeed, the New Republic reported in a 2008 article that Alinsky would ask his new students why they wanted to organize. After they gave rambling answers about wanting to better social conditions, Alinsky would get angry and tell them that was all wrong. “You want to organize for power!” he screamed.
In the end with liberals it's just all about getting and retaining power. The betting here is that their tactic will backfire there is only two possible outcomes:
1. Democrats win the battle and lose the war.
2. Democrats lose the battle and lose the war.
They cannot win the war. They are pushing themselves into irrelevancy.
In a flurry of morning tweets, Trump rejected conservative complaints that his offer of temporary deportation protections for young immigrants amounts to amnesty and said that Pelosi and other Democrats "turned down my offer yesterday before I even got up to speak."
"She is so petrified of the 'lefties' in her party that she has lost control," Trump said of the House speaker.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-takes-aim-at-Pelosi-amid-stalled-shutdown-13547982.php
he's right.
pelosi is "speaker" in name. assholio fucktardio cortez is speaker IN FACT.
trump needs to start referencing "speaker cortez."
nancy strokes out so badly she expires.
They cannot win the war
BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!! As trump's base is crumbling around the country as his intransigence and lack of empathy to actual workers erode what little support he has remaining.....so sad all rectum breath can do is echo a junior member of congress foibles as being germane......oh well, it may some day as the walls come tumbling down....
california - always focused on the shit that doesn't matter:
WATCH: Democrat State Senator Announces Using 'He/She' Pronouns Will Be Banned During Hearings
https://www.dailywire.com/news/42389/watch-democrat-state-senator-announces-politically-amanda-prestigiacomo
california - always focused on the shit that doesn't matter:
Then why do you spend so much energy posting about it????? Must be important to you!!!!!
BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!! As trump's base is crumbling around the country as his intransigence and lack of empathy to actual workers erode what little support he has remaining...
Trump's base (90% of the Republican Party) is remarkably stable.
And of the announce Democrat candidates, not one of them would be a better president than Trump. In fact he could beat them easily in his sleep.
No, the one candidate who could possibly beat him is a 72 year old who gets handsy around women.
Roger
You realize that you have gone to "there is bills he can simply sign" to reopen the government...
To making the suggestion that he can just "tell" Republicans (if he wanted) to reopen the Government.
Those two things are not even remotely in the same ballpark as being the same thing.
At the end of the day, you are confused (because the Democrats want you confused). But all you are doing is demanding that Trump and GOP all roll over and accept what Pelosi passed in the House.
But guess what, Rog...
Our system of Government doesn't work that way. The House of Representatives is just half of Congress and Congress is just half of the two Branches of Government required to pass laws.
In essence, Pelosi and the Democrats in the House own 25% of the power here, and the Republicans and Trump own 75%. The people who should be acquiescing are the Democrats in the House (not the majority).
Then why do you spend so much energy posting about it????? Must be important to you!!!!!
it's what we call amusing, denny.
reading about california politics is like reading the comics in the sunday paper. one party rule has gotten california a once beautiful city slathered in human shit, a high speed rail project so far over budget it's not funny (but it is), a CALPERS pension system so underfunded as to potentially not meet it's obligations, a new governor proposing a tax on drinking water for fuck's sake...
and the list goes on and on.
what's not funny is my asshole governor actually trying to outdo the newly installed asshole governor in california. and as both states lose enough population to affect congressional representation, they don't understand why.
In essence, Pelosi and the Democrats in the House own 25% of the power here
and the socialist and hamas democrat caucuses own 75% of that 25%. THAT'S why nancy has a problem.
Trump's base (90% of the Republican Party) is remarkably stable.
and enjoying every minute of this partial government shutdown.
Speaking about losing the Washington Post now this story on Buzzfeed
Inside the Mueller team’s decision to dispute BuzzFeed’s explosive story on Trump and Cohen
"the special counsel’s office reviewed evidence to determine if there were any documents or witness interviews like those described, reaching out to those they thought might have a stake in the case.
They found none, these people said. That, the people said, is in part why it took Mueller’s office nearly a day to dispute the story publicly. In the interim, cable news outlets and other media organizations, including The Washington Post, dissected its possible implications — even as their reporters were unable to independently confirm it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/inside-the-mueller-teams-decision-to-dispute-buzzfeeds-explosive-story-on-trump-and-cohen/2019/01/19/d89dba5b-fa0f-445b-9fd3-72f0e911e28d_story.html?utm_term=.338d725d43ed
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