- Tarrant identifies himself as an “ethno-nationalist eco-fascist.” He says he was first a communist, then an anarchist, then a libertarian, and finally an eco-fascist. He’s 28. This is not a stable person.
- He despises conservatives for having conserved nothing. “Conservatism is corporatism in disguise, I want no part of it,” he writes. He adds, in all caps, “CONSERVATISM IS DEAD, THANK GOD.” He also despises France’s National Front, or whatever it’s called today. He calls them “milquetoast.” He praises the emergence of Trump as a sign of hope, but mocks Trump too. He says his idea leader is Oswald Mosley, the 20th century British fascist. Point is, the idea that Tarrant has any meaningful connection to the mainstream right is nonsense. The man is true radical.
- He says his aim is to accelerate history by frightening people and creating conflict. In particular, he wants to cause the US to move to take away people’s guns, and the Second Amendment supporters to respond to this violently.
- He wants the US to be balkanized into warring racial and regional factions, to destroy the ability of the US to project power around the world.
- He was radicalized by traveling in Europe and seeing immigrant crime, by seeing how many immigrants are present, and how the dispirited native populations are dying out. Overcome by emotion, he decided that he must do something about it.
- He said he chose the firearms for his attack specifically to incite an argument within the US, leading to the left attempting to confiscate guns, thereby starting a civil war.
- He says he is not a Nazi, but it’s hard to know what to make of his politics except to say that he is a national socialist obsessed with race, and hating capitalism. Plus, he loves the environment (“there is no traditionalism without environmentalism”).
- This was a brutal slap: “Above all, don’t be stale, placid, and boring. No one is inspired by Jeb Bush.”
- He praises the People’s Republic of China as his ideal state.
So bottom line, the killer is a self-described communist who hates capitalism, conservatism, and wants to see the United States turn into broken up state of warring factions. His issues came from traveling and observing behavior in Europe between Immigrants and native populations.
But the immediate description from our mainstream media was to redefine a European, anti-American, anti-capitalist, self described Communist, who sees China as his ideal state:
as a "Pro-Trump" right wing conservative who probably was wearing a MAGA hat.
This is little more than anti-Trump gaslighting. How may of you have fallen for it?
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This is little more than anti-Democracy gaslighting. How may of you have fallen for it?
The expansion of executive authority is the greatest threat to our democracy.
The Founders had a major fear for the future of the American republic: that it would collapse into tyranny.
Some day a leader would win an election for president and then use the power and resources available to him as chief executive to disembowel democracy to the point of transforming it into an autocracy. And they knew just what sort of character would do that: a flamboyant charlatan who lied at every turn, used those lies to channel resentments at the status quo into votes that sent him into office, and then did not scruple to abuse his new power to amass even more power. In short, they feared the election of a Donald Trump.
They knew a lot about tyrants. They had worked very hard to get out from under one, King George III of Great Britain. Since 1760, when he ascended to the throne, they had watched in horror as Great Britain’s limited monarchy and Parliamentary democracy, once revered as the best government in the world, slid into practices that history taught prepared the way for tyranny. Benjamin Franklin identified these in 1775 when he wrote home from London about the “extream Corruption prevalent among all Orders of Men in this old rotten State [and the] Numberless and needless Places, enormous Salaries, Pensions, Perquisites, Bribes, groundless Quarrels, foolish Expeditions, false Accompts or no Accompts, Contracts and Jobbs [that] devour all Revenue and produce continual Necessity in the Midst of natural Plenty.”
The Declaration of Independence featured the Founders’ long list of George III’s crimes against America, “a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.” Particularly galling was his “transporting large Armies of Foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny,” an action “totally unworthy of the Head of a civilized nation.” For George Washington, the hiring of the mercenaries was the final piece of evidence that George III had become a despot. Franklin, in designing a Great Seal for the new country, chose a biblical scene with the motto, “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/our-founding-fathers-feared-a-trump
I have long believed that Benjamin Franklin was the greatest of the founding fathers. He spent many years in Europe and England and saw the powerful people were the most dangerous to a democracy.
I find that the current conservatives have been gaslighted by the President.
This is little more than anti-Democracy gaslighting.
Hate to tell you this, Rog...
But if you believe we live in a Democracy, you've been gaslighted!
We live in a Republic with a Constitution that pushes State and Individual rights over the Federal Government.
If this country was an actual "Democracy" would just insure that we are ruled by the so called "population centers" which by and far are the worst places in this country to live.
Of the fifty states, in 2018, Illinois (Chicago) was ranked 50 in Fiscal Condition, California was ranked 42, and New York was ranked 41.
Top five?
Nebraska, South Dakota, Tennessee, Florida, and Oklahoma!
https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings
Paranoia, the destroyer!!!
We live in a Republic with a Constitution that pushes State and Individual rights over the Federal Government.
Donald Trump has violated every fucking thing that you allegedly stand for.
Trumpism stage four brain cancer is incurable.
Our Federal Government is a form of democracy.
Donald Trump has violated every fucking thing that you allegedly stand for.
Trumpism the destroyer!
You have lost your fucking mind.
I have long believed that Benjamin Franklin was the greatest of the founding fathers. He spent many years in Europe and England and saw the powerful people were the most dangerous to a democracy, whether it is a federal government or a parliamentary democracy.
Trumpism the destroyer!
All Trump did was win the electoral college!
So far nothing he has done has been unconstitutional... even though pretty much everything he has done has been challenged in court.
Certainly we will find out if the latest liberal pearl clutching regarding national emergencies will be declared so.
So far, the USSC has ruled in his favor pretty much exclusively.
I suppose "you" know better though, huh?
Trumpism stage four brain cancer is incurable.
You must be very proud of this mention in the manifesto...
He praises the emergence of Trump as a sign of hope, but mocks Trump too...
Yes he won the election, but to be part of a whacko's rational for killing muslims is rather sickening to me and should be to you. This can be seen as a sign for radicalization and of white supremacy that can only lead me to the conclusion you too lil Scotty have latent superior white motives in you blood that are aching for the implementation of a white state america or you would not be defending trump as you do. Most pathetic is you don't see ii!!!!
@paul_furber
Questions the media should be asking:
- What is Tarrant's real background?
- Why did he travel to both NK and Pakistan recently?
- How did he get hold of so many restricted weapons?
- Why does his "manifesto" not ring true for a real 8chan denizen?
You are an unknowing supporter of white supremacists.
Whether he won the election isn't relevant to the issue Scott.
History shows us that dictatorships rose to power, with the support of people who have unknowingly betrayed themselves to support people a person who has but one belief, in himself.
I'm not going with Dennis "Scott you have latent superior white motives in you blood" But given your betrayal of beliefs you held in the past. From a somewhat moderate Republican, and libertarian beliefs, into a mouth piece for the President.
I sincerely hope that a strong Republican candidate will challenge Trump. Jeb Bush has been saying that recently.
I would change parties to vote against Trump in the primaries!
You radicaltion is very disturbing, because you represent the base. No matter what he says or does unconstitutional or not, you will never change your mind.
SAD
@CarmineZozzora
Leftwing lingo 101:
Acceptance: we win or else;
Tolerance: submit to our will or else;
Diversity: toe the party line or else;
Free speech: agree or else.
Now, surrender your best defense of weapons for your own safety because anti-fascism.
If the Supreme Court overturns his National Emergency executive order, he will still take money from the treasury and take money from the defense department, Department of justice and other money appropriated by the Congress to build his wall.
You Scotty, would find a way to support him.
Roger, you are in a rage.
Go have another cold beer.
Roger Amick said...
If the Supreme Court overturns his National Emergency executive order, he will still take money from the treasury and take money from the defense department, Department of justice and other money appropriated by the Congress to build his wall.
You Scotty, would find a way to support him.
Not sure about that but am sure if the Supreme Court would uphold his order Roger would still not support.
Or would Roger really go with what the Supreme Court rules?
If the Supreme Court overturns his National Emergency executive order
I doubt that the Supreme Court will overturn it. He followed the law as it is written.
Congress already attempted to scale back the law once before and was shot down by the Courts, who basically made the argument that you cannot cede your power to the executive branch and then take it away, unless you want to repeal the law.
I think that Congress should look to repeal the law if they do not like the manner in which it is being used.
But REALITY here Roger, is that Trump and his Administration has followed every legal order, allowed every stupid injunction stand even when many legal analysts suggested that the courts had no authority and even when it was obvious to everyone that the USSC would eventually back the President.
In fact, it can be argued without much argument that the Trump administration has bent over backwards to accommodate court decisions, even when those decisions were ridiculous by all accounts.
Your "fantasy" about this Administration not following the courts or not following the constitution is based entirely on paranoia derived from TDS.
New NY AG Leticia James is already filing court action against Trump. She thinks that's the only reason she was elected (by NYC dems of course).
You should move to paradise.
A Republican lawmaker in Missouri wants to require adults in his state to purchase handguns and AR-15 rifles.
Two bills introduced by state Rep. Andrew McDaniel would require residents to purchase firearms while providing $1 million in tax credits on a first-come, first-served basis to residents who fall under the law.
The first bill, the McDaniel Second Amendment Act, would require Missouri residents aged 21 or older to purchase a handgun. It also would allot up to $1 million per year in tax credits for residents who purchased weapons to comply with the law. The bill was filed in late February.
Stupid
Supreme Court overturns his National Emergency executive order"
OK.
Trump follows the Court Decision.
Roger, when the US Supreme Court ruled for Pres. Trump, will you support it?
I don't need paradise. A little political objectivity would be nice
If the SCOTUS doesn't overturn the fake emergency executive order, the Democrats have another good reason to make sure that Trump doesn't get a second term.
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