Wednesday, March 27, 2019

Collusion for Dummies

So what is "collusion"?
What makes a criminal conspiracy?

Let's start with the basic premise that collusion or criminal conspiracy would not be investigated or proven any differently whether that accused collusion was between two Parties who both were American citizens or two Parties of different nationalities.

For some reason I think this is what confuses most liberals. They seem to quite honestly believe that the entire country of Russia (all 150 million) was in on the scam. Or at least that is how their mind works. On top of that, they are willing to toss in pretty much anyone loosely associated with Russia and are more than willing to treat someone from say Ukraine, as if they are actually Russian.

But the reality is that to prove collusion you have to prove a link between the people who actually committed a crime, and those you believe were in cahoots. In the case of the Mueller Russian Election interference probe, those people who committed the interference were limited to two distinct groups.

  • The Russian Hackers (Guccifer 2.0) 
  • The Russian social media "troll farm" 

So in very simple terms. If you believe that Trump "colluded" in regards to election interference, you must connect Donald Trump (or people associated to him) to either Guccifer 2.0 or to the Troll farm. Paul Manafort (for instance) providing polling data to a Ukrainian associate literally does "nothing" to connect Trump to either. It's in fact nothing more than red herring.  

To make a simple analogy. Let's say you wanted to prove that Trump was associated with a Mob syndicate located in Chicago. Would law enforcement attempt to investigate every person loosely associated with Trump who might have talked to anyone who is from Chicago?

The obvious answer to that would be of course not. It would be ridiculous to believe that everyone who lives in Chicago must have some affiliation with a mob syndicate based out of the same city. The baseline assumption would be that 99.999% of people from Chicago would have nothing to do with the Mob syndicate. 

But with the delusional paranoid fantastical confirmation bias of the left, they quite literally believed that everyone with a loose affiliation with Russia must be in association with someone who was responsible for election interference. Reality is that Americans are legally able to talk to as many Russians as they would like, and those conversations do not make them in danger of being arrested. 

More to the obvious point. When Mueller indicted pretty much any and all known members of the "troll farm" he made it a point to put into the indictment that this work was done without the aid or knowledge of any Americans. To the degree that any Americans were involved, it was unwittingly. 

This should have closed the door on possible collusion between the "troll farm" and Trump associates. It did for most of us. It just didn't for those with TDS who used a high degree of cognitive dissonance to ignore the most important finding of the indictment.

When it came to the Russian Hackers, our Law Enforcement has always been relying on the "word" of the DNC and Hillary Camps, who hired an outside source to investigate the hacking. Quite literally neither the FBI or the Mueller Special Counsel ever examined the servers to verify. Without the literal evidence of the servers, any charges against the hackers would never stick (even if they decided to come into America and willingly face charges).

If you can't make criminal charges stick to the people you believe committed the crime. You cannot possibly convict anyone of "conspiracy" or "aiding and abetting" that particular crime. 

Now on top of all of this, this is not a Kevin Bacon game of seven degrees of separation. Just being able to say someone knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who commited a crime does not implicate anyone other than the criminal. If there is conspiracy, the conspiracy would quite literally have to involve every player along the way. 

For instance, the Russian attorney lobbyist who came to the Trump Tower for that famous meeting, was at least four or five degrees of separation to Putin. Oh, and guess what, you would still need to conclusively tie Putin to either the Hackers or the Trolling Farm. Prosecutors don't get to simply allow "assumptions" to be considered fact in a court of law. So that puts her at least another degree of separation from the people who actually committed the criminal act.

Well guess what. Being five degrees of separation from someone who committed a crime would not make you part of a conspiracy. In the case of Natalia Veselnitskaya,  you would have to believe that her firm was in on the conspiracy, that the client in question was in on the conspiracy, and that he was working through his dad, who then worked his way up the government chain to Putin, who then worked his way back to the Hackers or Trolling Farm.

And you have to have actual real evidence that you can connect each and every dot.

So the reality is that Mueller was never going to find real criminal evidence of collusion. Heck, even if a real criminal conspiracy existed, it would be nearly impossible to prove it when the players are not part of this country.  I am not exactly sure how people (who otherwise seemed reasonably intelligent) were so certain that he would. I would love to hear "exactly" what they thought the links actually were, and how they believed Mueller would be able to identify them.

Was it "really" because they are confused by the idea that it was Russia? Did they really truly believe that there were 150 million Russians all hiding their involvement in "stealing" an American election?

52 comments:

James said...

Collins ‘Appalled’ Trump Wants to Throw Out Obamacare
March 27, 2019 at 1:27 pm EDT

Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) said she’s “surprised” and “appalled” by the Trump administration’s decision to argue in court that the Affordable Care Act should be thrown out, Axios reports.

Said Collins: “I’m appalled. I think the Justice Department has a duty to defend the duly enacted laws… I was surprised and disappointed. If the president disagrees with a law, then he should should ask Congress to repeal or change that law. He should not try to get rid of it through the courts.”

Republicans are APPALLED too, James said...

Trump Doubles-Down on Obamacare Threats

President Trump reiterated that the Republican party will now be the “party of great healthcare,” CBS News reports.

Said Trump: “I mean it 100 percent, I understand healthcare now, especially very well. A lot of people don’t understand it, we are going to be, the Republicans, the party of great healthcare. The Democrats have, they’ve let you down, they came up with Obamacare, it’s terrible.”

HOWEVER, Republican leaders have privately told Trump to back off his efforts to have the law overturned in the courts.


MEANWHILE, no collusion could yet become some collusion, James said...

Mueller Grand Jury ‘Continuing Robustly’

A federal prosecutor said in court that the special counsel’s grand jury investigating Russian collusion into the 2016 presidential election is “continuing robustly” despite the end of Robert Mueller’s probe, Politico reports.

“The fact the grand jury is continuing its work adds a new layer of uncertainty to the Mueller probe, which Attorney General William Barr announced on Friday was finished.”

James said...

AMEN!!! sister!

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/03/27/people-are-dying-ocasio-cortez-defends-green-new-deal-from-elitist-knock/23701370/

C.H. Truth said...

“The fact the grand jury is continuing its work adds a new layer of uncertainty to the Mueller probe, which Attorney General William Barr announced on Friday was finished.”

Ummm... no it doesn't.

Mueller is the prosecutor. He has stated he is not pursuing any other indictments. Whatever the Grand Jury is doing, it's not deciding whether to bring down any more indictments.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

the desperate "pastor" with another load of spam from his discredited political_liar site.

After over 2 years of proudly spreading falsehoods he has nothing else to fall back on.

How' the Chicago criminal political apparatus going? What Obama fingerprints are all over these scandals?????

ROFLMFAO !!!

C.H. Truth said...

So James..

Are you saying that AOC is defending a bill so silly and stupid that even she wouldn't vote for it?

hmmmmm....

Non-elitist James said...

No, here's what we're saying,Ch.

You better not call this sister or what she stands for elitist.

She'll put it right back in your face.


'People are dying': Ocasio-Cortez defends Green New Deal from 'elitist' knock

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., on Tuesday tore into a Republican colleague who suggested the so-called Green New Deal she is championing is “elitist.”

“This is not an elitist issue; this is a quality-of-life issue,” Ocasio-Cortez said during a House Financial Services Committee meeting. “You want to tell people that their concern and their desire for clean air and clean water is elitist? Tell that to the kids in the South Bronx, which are suffering from the highest rates of childhood asthma in the country.

“Tell that to the families in Flint whose kids have their blood ascending in lead levels, their brains are damaged for the rest of their lives,” she continued. “Call them elitist.”

Moments earlier, Rep. Sean Duffy, R-Wis., blasted the ambitious environmental plan to move the country toward zero carbon emissions.

“If you’re a rich liberal from maybe New York or California, it sounds great because you can afford to retrofit your home or build a new home that has zero emissions, that’s energy-efficient,” Duffy said.

Ocasio-Cortez said the environmental costs to Americans are coming.
"We talk about cost — we’re going to pay for this whether we pass a Green New Deal or not,” she continued. “Because as towns and cities go underwater, as wildfires ravage our communities, we are going to pay. And we're either going to decide if we’re going to pay to react, or if we're going to pay to be proactive."

She added: “I’m very sad to say that the government knew that climate change was real starting as far back as 1989. I’m going to turn 30 this year, and for the entire 30 years of my lifetime, we did not make substantial investments to prepare our entire country for what we knew was coming.

“People are dying. They are dying,” she said. “This is about American lives, and it should not be partisan. Science should not be partisan."

Highly recommending this, Pastor James said...

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Steph said...

‏@steph93065

One thing good has happened with the Russia scam: We know every honest journalist & not a single one is at the @NyTimes, @washingtonpost, @CNN or @MSNBC

We know who are real journalists now. We can seek them out when the truth is critically important.

Steph said...

@steph93065

The Obama administration used the CIA/FBI/DNI to spy on their political adversaries.

Bigger than Watergate.


History will not be kind to Obama and his enablers.

The Guardian said...

Trump's Incredibly Bad Pick for Fed Board Owes Back Taxes

Stephen Moore, the conservative economics commentator chosen by President Trump for a seat on the Federal Reserve board, is being pursued by the federal government for $75,000 in taxes that it alleges he owes, The Guardian reports.

Moore said he disputed the IRS claim and was “eager to reach an agreement” with authorities but had been frustrated by bureaucracy at the agency.

Paul Joseph Watson said...

‏Verified account
@PrisonPlanet

New CNN Poll finds Trump has a higher approval rating than Ronald Reagan had at the same point in his presidency.

Looks like FAKE NEWS CNN is trying to make up

ROFLMFAO !!!

C.H. Truth said...

Actually James...

Nobody is dying. You want to know where people are dying? Try crime. Try illegal immigrants literally killing and raping Americans. Try people being killed because Sanctuary cities let homicidal criminals back on the streets.

Until Ocasio-Cortez is willing to acknowledge and confront "real" people dying, see's not to be taken seriously.

Trump Not Exonerated of Collusion Majority said...

Majority Say Trump Not Exonerated of Collusion

A new CNN poll finds 56% of Americans say President Trump and his campaign have not been exonerated of collusion with the Russians, but that what they’ve heard or read about the report shows collusion could not be proven.

Just 43% say Trump and his team have been exonerated of collusion.

“Republicans and Democrats are on opposite sides of this question: 77% of Republicans say the President has been exonerated, 80% of Democrats say he has not. Independents break against exoneration — 58% say the President and his campaign were not exonerated.”

James said...

Nobody died in the CA fires? Nobody died in the incessant tornadoes? Nobody died in the humongous floods? Nobody died in the mega-giant hurricanes?

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

America Needs a SetUpGate Truth Commission

What happened?
On the one hand, we know what happened: nothing. Neither Donald Trump nor anyone in his 2016 campaign, family, or businesses “colluded” with Russia or with any other foreign power to steal the 2016 election.

the tippy-top Obama Administration officials who engineered this farce; the deep state operatives who helped them and kept it going once the Obamanauts were out of office; the Democratic Party; the Hillary campaign; the Clintons themselves; the elite law firm that offered itself up as a cutout; plus the special counsel himself and his team, who must have known long ago that their original remit would never pan out but kept going (for 674 days and $50 million) anyway.

Which is to say: the most powerful individuals, institutions and interests in America conspired to set up a presidential candidate, and later president-elect, and later still President. Their goal? To defeat him in 2016; should he be elected, to prevent his taking office; and should he take office, to have him removed. And yet it’s precisely these people who accused (and, in many cases, still accuse) Mr. Trump of “stealing” and “rigging” an election, of “subverting our democracy.” This is projection on an unimaginable scale. As Carlson likes to point out, whatever the modern Left accuses its enemies of doing, you can be sure that’s exactly what they’re doing.


https://amgreatness.com/2019/03/27/america-needs-a-setupgate-truth-commission/

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

The Southern Poverty Law Center Is Both a Terrible Place to Work and a Place That Does Terrible Work

Controversy has struck the Southern Poverty Law Center, the formidable progressive law firm best known for tracking hate groups in the U.S. Co-founder Morris Dees, President Richard Cohen, and other top executives are exiting the organization amidst a staff uprising over alleged sexual and racial harassment in the work place.

The leadership shakeup, fueled by allegations that black staffers were shut out of key positions and that Dees personally harassed female staffers, has brought the SPLC considerable media scrutiny, and it's about time. Regardless of whether these specific accusations have merit, the SPLC should face a reckoning over its extremely shoddy work, which has mistakenly promoted the idea that fringe hate groups are a rising threat.
https://reason.com/blog/2019/03/27/southern-poverty-law-center-hate-crime

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Republican leaders have privately told Trump to back off his efforts to have the health care law overturned in the courts.

Senator Rand Paul said...

‏Verified account
@RandPaul

Senator Rand Paul Retweeted Kimberly Guilfoyle
I agree with @kimguilfoyle Time for Congress to investigate. What did President Obama know and when? How did this hoax go on for so long unabated?

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

see the fucking spamming "pastor" is back to stealing id's

He has no game or knowledge.

Is he really a pedophile? He who protests too much...

Sean Davis said...

‏Verified account
@seanmdav

Clinton contractor Chistopher Steele was working for a sanctioned Russian oligarch when he wrote the false dossier. Fusion GPS, the firm that retained him, was working on behalf of a separate Russian oligarch and his corporate lawyer, who set up the infamous Trump Tower meeting.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY SAID OCASIO-CORTEZ said...

“People are dying. They are dying, and the response across the other side of the aisle is to introduce an amendment five minutes before a hearing.”

“We talk about cost. We’re going to pay for this whether we pass a Green New Deal or not. Because as towns and cities go underwater, as wildfires ravage our communities, we are going to pay,” she said. “And we’re either going to decide if we’re going to pay to react, or if we’re going to pay to be proactive," she added.

Senator Rand Paul said...

‏Verified account
@RandPaul

My plan is to object to the release of the Mueller report and/or all of the Mueller information until they also release the complete information from the White House, DOJ, FBI, on why they chose to credit the dossier.

Anonymous said...

What are you babbling about.
"JamesMarch 27, 2019 at 3:45 PM

Nobody died in the CA fires? Nobody died in the incessant tornadoes? Nobody died in the humongous floods? Nobody died in the mega-giant hurricanes."

ABORTION killed 41 million, leading cause of death in the world.
Yet not a peep out of you fake pastor.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

The Mueller Messiah That Failed His Lefty Fans

Votive candles of Robert Mueller III will set you back between 10 and 22 bucks. These candles feature everything from the standard black-suited G-man picture to one of a droopy Mueller in saintly robes pointing at his own glowing heart. By tomorrow or next week at the latest, you will be able to snag what Portland Monthly dubbed last year, the “hottest gift” of the holiday season in the bin at the Dollar store.

The candles, the buttons, the t-shirts, the mugs and the other Mueller tchotchkes which briefly made their peddlers wealthy, are all headed for that bin after he broke the hearts of his biggest fans.
Vogue dubbed Mueller, a 74-year-old lawyer, “America’s newest crush”. “He can evoke shades of Humphrey Bogart and has mastered a nearly Zoolander-esque gaze,” the style mag raved.

Just in January, Vanity Fair published an even trashier ode to Mueller, declaring, “Mueller Won the Hearts of America”. By America, the lefty mags, like all lefty culture manufacturers, meant themselves.
A lesbian folk band wrote a love song to Mueller, crooning, “I see you on TV / I see you in my dreams”.

Spike Lee wore a t-shirt that screamed, “GOD PROTECT ROBERT MUELLER”. Chelsea Handler tweeted, “I’m starting to have a real crush on Mueller.” Stephen Colbert compared him to Batman. A California artist claimed that looking at a picture of Mueller reassured him that everything would be okay.
“Since he's in charge, the world can be normal again,” he rhapsodized.
Tonight, the votive candles have gone out. Batman has fallen. And the lefties who went to bed believing in Mueller have lost their faith.
“Disappointed Fans of Mueller Rethink the Pedestal They Built for Him,” the New York Times gravely intones. In its piece, the paper quotes the host of a podcast, "Mueller, She Wrote", whose fans call themselves Muellerites, saying, “I’ve had to talk a couple people off the ledge.”
A law school prof who had posted a picture of herself lighting a Mueller candle comments, “There are definitely people who thought that Mueller would save us.”
But was it really these fans who had built Mueller’s pedestal of lies or was it the New York Times?

That paper, along with the Washington Post, MSNBC and a thousand less famous internet grifters had built Mueller’s fan base out of a crumbling pedestal of conspiracy theories and wishful thinking. Like the fans of another FBI based show, the lefties had wanted to believe. But the media made them believe.
The candles, the songs and the shirts were just the totems of a political mythology based on lies.
The Mueller investigation was never about Mueller. The Washington D.C. insider was just a useful front man for a team of Obama and Clinton supporters, most notably disgraced figure Andrew Weissmann, whose ugly tactics were all over the circus. Mueller was a partner in Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr: one of the most liberal law firms in an academic analysis of law firms by political lean. continues

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/273278/mueller-messiah-failed-his-lefty-fans-daniel-greenfield

Anonymous said...

James, your offended by Luddite Cortez owing back taxes?

Anonymous said...

So Roger, James and Denise are not giving up on collusion.

Best news of the week.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

PLEASE DON'T LOOK AT THIS. PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T LOOK AT THIS

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/03/27/people-are-dying-ocasio-cortez-defends-green-new-deal-from-elitist-knock/23701370/

Commonsense said...

Nobody died in the CA fires? Nobody died in the incessant tornadoes? Nobody died in the humongous floods? Nobody died in the mega-giant hurricanes?

No, they died in normal size hurricanes, tornados, and fires and have been for thousands of years.

The good news is that not as many people die in these natural disasters as they did in the past. (That's pre global warming James, yes, more people died due to weather before global warming than now.)

You can credit advances in technology and warning for the reduce death rate made possible by, wait for it, the burning of fossil fuels.

Commonsense said...

So Roger, James and Denise are not giving up on collusion.

Neither are Democrats or the news media (but I repeat myself). The suicide clown car is heading non-stop right over the cliff.

Commonsense said...

James' solution is to let people die of heat stroke by denying them air conditioning while he rides around in his air conditioned car.

The discredited Pastor James Boswell said...

Normal Illinois

I'm sorry

and I'm an aging white liberal democrat with an aversion to social norms and truth telling.



C.H. Truth said...

James...

That is an idiotic CNN poll. They provided a semantic difference to basically the same conclusion. That Mueller found no evidence of collusion.

Legally speaking if someone is investigated and no evidence is found, then they have been exonerated. Not being able to bring evidence to a criminal matter

IS EXONERATION. BY DEFINITION!!!!


This poll simply shows that either 56% of the public doesn't understand the definition of the word

that 56% of the public doesn't like the word because Trump used it (and they are suffering from TDS)

or that 56% of the public is still going to believe a conspiracy theory that offers virtually no proof.


Either way it's a dumb poll that never even asked the question as to whether or not Mueller's report had an effect on whether or not people still believe or do not believe that Trump actually colluded with Russia.



But it's CNN - they have pushed this for how long? I guess they are not willing to give up now.

Commonsense said...

I think I stop reading at "A CNN poll".

Lee Smith said...

‏@LeeSmithDC

"Americans still want & need accurate info ... But neither the legacy media nor the expert class it sustains is likely to survive the post-dossier era in any recognizable form. For them, Russiagate is an extinction level event."

Commonsense said...

A more significant indication is the nose-dive Rachael Maddow took in the ratings.

When you lied to people for 2 1/2 years it tends to catch up to you.

The discredited Pastor James Boswell said...

Commonsense said...
A more significant indication is the nose-dive Rachael Maddow took in the ratings.

When you lied to people for 2 1/2 years it tends to catch up to you.


Your telling me.

Paul Sperry said...

@paulsperry_

Is it just me, or have we seen the politicization and corruption of our criminal justice system since Obama was president? Intelligence has also been politicized. Of course there's always been corruption. But not this systemic. Not this rank.

Commonsense said...

It's not you.

anonymous said...

A more significant indication is the nose-

So fucking what.....in the great scheme of things....she is about as significant as Fucker Carlson, except better looking....LOLOLOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You need help.

Anonymous said...

That's pre global warming James, yes, more people died due to weather before global warming than now.)

You can credit advances in technology and warning for the reduce death rate made possible by, wait for it, the burning of fossil fuels."

The Luddite Cortez plan. IF James ever engaged in an honest debate I would ask him why does he hate Mother Earth and pollute to the scale that he does.

Eyewitness News said...


State Police: I-68 shutdown was result of threat to kill President Trump, blow up Pentagon

PRESTON COUNTY, W.Va. (WCHS/WVAH) — West Virginia State Police said Interstate 68 was shut down several hours Wednesday near the border with Maryland after threats were made to kill President Donald Trump and to blow up the Pentagon.

A 42-year-old male has been detained for questioning after a search of the vehicle revealed a fiream and explosive powder, State Police said.
Police said a trooper saw a vehicle registered from Missouri speeding toward him. The trooper stopped the vehicle near Bruceton Mills and indicated the driver appeared to be confused and distressed and made concerning comments.

https://wchstv.com/news/local/i-68-shut-down-near-west-virginia-maryland-state-line-due-to-investigation

Another crazy left-wing extremist.

Anonymous said...

Harvard Law School professor emeritus and noted criminal defense attorney Alan Dershowitz alleges in an op-ed for The Hill that Jeff Zucker, president of CNN Worldwide, banned him from further appearances on the network because he defended President Donald Trump.

Dershowitz, while a liberal Democrat, and a supporter of Hillary Clinton in 2016, took the position that the president could not be charged with obstruction of justice based merely on an exercise of his constitutional duties. He was also critical of the investigation of Special Counsel Robert Mueller into claims of collusion between President Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Russian government.

Dershowitz wrote Thursday that after several appearances in which he had debated CNN’s hosts and legal analysts over the various legal questions surrounding the “Russia collusion” controversy, he was never invited back again:
"

Really. CNN Ban on this guy?


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

"But with the delusional paranoid fantastical confirmation bias of the left"

. "To the degree that any Americans were involved, it was unwittingly. "

This should have closed the door on possible collusion between the "troll farm" and Trump associates. It did for most of us. It just didn't for those with TDS who used a high degree of cognitive dissonance to ignore the most important finding of the indictment.

In CHT world, the earth is flat according to the Democrats.

Did they really truly believe that there were 150 million Russians all hiding their involvement in "stealing" an American election?





Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Our esteemed President fired Comey out of fear.

Former FBI Director James Comey, in his first television interview since special counsel Robert Mueller concluded his investigation, said the principal findings of the probe show President Donald Trump's blistering criticism of the FBI were lies and his attempt to destroy the agency had failed.

Comey, in an exclusive interview with NBC News, told "Nightly News" anchor Lester Holt that the release of Attorney General William Barr's summary of Mueller's investigation "establishes, I hope, to all people no matter where they are on the spectrum, that the FBI is not corrupt, not a nest of vipers, of spies, but an honest group of people trying to find out what is true."


Responding to Holt's question about whether the "damage to the reputation of the justice system, FBI in particular, been worth it," Comey replied that "on balance" it had.

"I don't think that we've seen in the history of our country, the president try to burn down an institution of justice because he saw it as a threat," Comey said. "And the lies he told, forget about me, the lies he told about the agents of the FBI, 'storm troopers,' the lies he told about Bob Mueller, were terrible."

"But in the long run, the institutions will be fine, because the American people know them and also know this president, know what he's like," Comey added. "I think the people of the United States are going to see what I know about the FBI: These are people who are not in anyone's tribe, they're trying to find the facts."

The four-page summary of Mueller’s investigation, released Sunday by Barr, said Mueller found no proof that Trump criminally colluded with Russia. The summary also said Mueller had reached no conclusion about whether the president had obstructed justice, though Barr wrote that he decided there was insufficient evidence to pursue an obstruction charge.


Comey said the conclusion about there being no collusion was "good news no matter what party you're associated with."

"It'll be important to read the entire report, but, based on what I've seen, this is a good thing," he said.

But the former FBI director said he found parts of Barr's letter "confusing" — especially those pertaining to Mueller's position on whether Trump committed obstruction of justice.

Mueller was appointed special counsel on May 17, 2017 — eight days after Trump fired Comey as FBI director. Comey had been leading the investigation into Russian meddling and any possible Trump campaign involvement.


The president initially said he'd removed Comey at the urging of deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein and then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions, but he later told Holt it was his decision, and the president cited his frustration with the Russia probe.

Comey, asked on Wednesday by Holt what he felt about the sequence of events, replied that he still believed it raised serious questions.

"I thought that's potentially obstruction of justice and I hope somebody is going to look at that," Comey said. "Again, the president appears to be saying, I don't know what's in his head — which is why I can't reach the conclusion — what he appears to be saying is, I got rid of this guy to shut down an investigation that threatened me."

Commonsense said...

flagellum equus mortus

Anonymous said...

Roger never grows an original idea. He keeps plowing the same ground.

Roger you're a self proclaimed high IS guy answer us these three things.
1, what exactly was the event that caused this investigation
2, on what date
3, who gave the ok to Start it

Thanks.

Myballs said...

Fear of the FBI director engaging in criminal activity. He was right.

Myballs said...

Every time Schiff continues to claim that there's evidence of trump collusion, he needs to be called out on it. Either show the evidence or STFU.

Anonymous said...

Trump was Right on ALL of the Leadership of the intelligence community .

NATO leader is in town. He is going to address a joint session of Congress.