Now all they need are the facts to back up their claims of a high crime or misdemeanor
I sometimes wonder if politicians believe the American public is as dumb as they seem to believe we are. Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee Jerrold Nadler, for instance, is claiming that the President should be impeached for calling the Mueller Investigation a "witch hunt" 1100 times. Let's be clear here folks, the term "partisan witch hunt" started in midst of the Ken Starr Special Investigation regarding the Clintons and Whitewater. Nearly every politician investigated for anything claims that they are innocent.
If claiming you are innocent and criticizing the fact that you are being investigated is a crime, well then I guess we would have to pretty much have to do away with defense attorneys and that pesky thing called the right to a trial before a jury of your peers. Because it appears that argument is that in order to avoid obstruction, you have to acquiesce to the opinions of the press and accept that any investigation makes you guilty until proven innocent. You know, like it would be in a true banana republic.
Democratic leaders are suggesting (in general) that there is enough public evidence of obstruction to warrant impeachment. But if there is enough obvious evidence out there that "they" can see, well then most certainly a high profile prosecutor like Robert Mueller would be able to create a recommendation of a potential charge. To be clear, if Mueller believes that the President committed a crime, that will be in his report and Barr will not hold it back.
But democrats are already planning out the bait and switch gambit that will soon be coming. They will want to use what everyone expects to be a fairly uninspired Mueller report that will not find criminal wrongdoing by the President, as an excuse to launch more investigations. The idea that a Special Counsel was needed to flush out the situation with the Russians and the 2016 election was always a ruse.
The plan, all along, was to simply keep the juggling investigations in the air as long as they can. It never was about Russia or the election. It was always about "getting" Trump. There is only one way for them to prove me wrong. That would be to accept the Mueller report and move on.
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The only thing that will make them drop this is getting shellacked in the polls. Even then they may not.
In which case the will be in the wilderness after 2020.
Which is another reapportionment year.
we should be thankful that the donks are taking the path they're taking.
first of all, they've placed a couple of complete fucking clods - nadler and cummings - in charge of the committees responsible for driving this short bus. brilliant. that nets the same result as you did when you gave the alky posting privileges.
second, if they're consumed by this asshattery they're not pushing their socialist agenda.
third, every fucking idiot democrat who has declared a run for the white house is placed in the uncomfortable and untenable position of having to defend this nonsense.
and finally, any impeachment effort dies in the senate, so it's obvious they haven't thought THAT through.
this whole situation is a good deal for the right. they just need to sit back, watch it unfold, and moderate their response. nadler is setting a very large and very obvious perjury trap.
everyone called before his merry band of misfits needs to respond with the 5th. that will drive him and the democrats to the brink of insanity.
Any communication is now collusion. Unless its the Clinton campaign.
and don't forget the Clinton campaign actually paid Russians to make things up.
The greatest overreach in the history of our Country. The Dems are obstructing justice and will not get anything done. A big, fat, fishing expedition desperately in search of a crime, when in fact the real crime is what the Dems are doing, and have done!
PRESIDENT HARASSMENT!
PANIC
and don't forget the Clinton campaign actually paid Russians to make things up.
and that's the best part of this fraud.
there are real crimes to be pursued and real criminals to be prosecuted. so naturally the left pursues what triggers their temper tantrums.
the american people are simply not as stupid as the democrats need them to be.
"Panic"
Oh dear all alone Roger is funny.
Roger , make a positive case for the Great work the Socialist Democrats are actually getting done for the poor and middle income ?
Roger
Notice how things went from Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia...
To let's just investigate everything that we possibly can regarding the President?
Facts are facts:
Congress cannot impeach him for something that happened before he was President, and their oversight does not include Donald Trump's personal businesses prior to him being President. Their oversight is on what he does as President.
Congress cannot impeach him for things done by others. Just because someone associated with his campaign team or someone who was a business associate did something wrong, doesn't mean you can simply hold the President accountable by proxy.
I would offer that the President fight every request or subpoena from Congress that does specifically have to do with his actions while he has been in in office and/or his actions as President. Unless, of course, there is actual evidence of criminal wrongdoing (not just a suspicion or desire to dig).
Let the courts decide if the oversight of Congress includes digging through years old tax returns trying to dig up dirt or if a court would offer that they have solid grounds to believe criminal actions have been committed.
(Either way, the Justice Department and local authorities would be the appropriate players to be in charge of this sort of investigation).
Move on Roger.
"Jan 13, 1999 · Just as the Senate is about to begin President Clinton's impeachment trial in earnest, Mr. Clinton sent $850,000 to Paula Corbin Jones today to settle the sexual misconduct lawsuit that started it all. Clinton Administration officials said a check for $850,000, the amount agreed ..."
Socialist Democrats civil war.
Cory Booker takes a shot at Kamel-toe Harris lack of "Blackness".
"The mother of soak-the-rich Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said she was forced to flee the Big Apple and move to Florida because the property taxes were so high.
“I was paying $10,000 a year in real estate taxes up north. I’m paying $600 a year in Florida. It’s stress-free down here,” Blanca Ocasio-Cortez told the Daily Mail from her home in Eustis, a town of less than 20,000 in central Florida north of Orlando.
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More than 3.8 million people dropped off food stamps since President Donald Trump’s first full month in office, according to the most recent data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA)."
Facts are facts:
except that facts have never mattered in this case.
the law has not mattered in this case.
reality has not mattered in this case.
all that HAS mattered in this case is deposing trump by any means necessary. because of a temper tantrum, and the fable that was crafted to cover for the worst presidential candidate in the history of the republic.
as a nation we're farther down the road to being totally fucked than i care to admit.
'I'm not running': Hillary Clinton rules out 2020 bid for first time on camera in exclusive interview with News 12
Clinton pledged to take an active role in 2020 as the field of Democratic candidates continues to expand. She's already held private meetings with many of the candidates, and she revealed the substance of some of those closed-door discussions.
http://westchester.news12.com/story/40067049/im-not-running-hillary-clinton-rules-out-2020-bid-for-first-time-on-camera-in-exclusive-interview-with-news-12
which 2020 dem candidate ISN'T going to want advice from the worst presidential candidate in the history of the republic?
emergency?
what emergency?
U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) reports that 76,103 migrants appeared at ports of entry and illegally crossed between ports in February. This is the largest number of apprehensions and inadmissible migrants for a February reporting period in 12 years, CBP stated Tuesday.
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/03/05/76k-migrants-entered-through-southwest-border-in-february-most-in-12-years-says-cbp/
My opinion.
The Democrats have to be careful about impeachment at this point in time.
They have subpoenaed documents from the entire Trump administration and his business interests.
Trump was possibly offering a pardon to his attorney and fixer Cohen. The Congress can investigate this issue. If they asked him to lie, in return to a pardon it may not be granted to the President by the Constitution and MAY be a high crime and a misdemeanor.
The Democrats have to be careful about impeachment at this point in time.
Too late. The 81 letters proved this is already a Soviet style witch hunt.
Trump was possibly offering a pardon to his attorney and fixer Cohen.
Actually it was Cohen's attorney that was inquiring about a pardon. Judging from his subsequent behavior, the answer was "no chance".
She is just awesome .
"Democrats draft anti-Semitism resolution in response to Omar’s remarks"
Not enough.
Not your opinion you liar, cheat and man whore.
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The Democrats have to be careful about impeachment at this point in time. "
The White House is not going to release anything. Axios
White House counsel Pat Cipollone sent a letter to House Oversight chairman Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) on Tuesday rejecting the committee's request for documents on the process for granting security clearances to White House personnel, calling their demands "unprecedented and extraordinarily intrusive."
"Although we are prepared to continue negotiations in good faith, the Committee seeks unilateral concessions without any offer of accommodation on its part, and then complains that the White House has refused to simply tum over everything the Committee inappropriately seeks. These actions suggest that the Committee is not interested in proper oversight, but rather seeks information that it knows cannot be provided consistent with applicable law. We will not concede the Executive's constitutional prerogatives or allow the Committee to jeopardize the individual privacy rights of current and fo1mer Executive Branch employees."
Why it matters: The House Oversight Committee announced in January that it would investigate the White House and Trump transition team's process of granting security clearances "in response to grave breaches of national security at the highest levels of the Trump Administration." Cipollone's letter is likely the first of many confrontations to come, as Democrats intent on probing every corner of Trump's life, business and presidency begin to ramp up their investigations.
Cummings said last week that this would be his final voluntary request for the administration before the committee begins to issue subpoenas, per Politico.
In a statement responding to Cipollone, Cummings said: "The White House's argument defies the Constitutional separation of powers, decades of precedent before this Committee, and just plain common-sense. The White House security clearance system is broken, and it needs both congressional oversight and legislative reform."
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The Constitution is clear that the house has the authority to make sure that they don't exceed their Constitutional authority.
Roger is a perfect baffon .
They are circling the ropes around his neck.
Insurance regulators in New York have issued a subpoena to Aon, the Trump Organization’s insurance broker of choice, the company confirmed to ABC News.
The subpoena, issued by the New York State Department of Financial Services, was based in large part on the testimony of Michael Cohen, who answered in the affirmative when asked whether President Donald Trump ever inflated his assets to an insurance company, according to a source familiar with the matter.
He's a mobster and he's under investigation by a lawyer who is familiar with the Russian Mafia.
A true American hero.
Former White House lawyer Ty Cobb said in a new podcast that he considers special counsel Robert S. Mueller III to be “an American hero” and “a class act” and does not share President Trump’s oft-stated view that the probe of Russian election interference is a politically motivated “witch hunt.”
Cobb, who joined the White House shortly after Mueller’s investigation began in 2017, departed in May last year as Trump and his surrogates took a more aggressive approach in trying to discredit the investigation.
In an interview for the ABC News podcast “The Investigation,” Cobb said he does not expect Mueller to show collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia and that he disagrees with the strategy that Trump and others, including his personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, have employed.
Related: [Trump calls Mueller a ‘conflicted prosecutor gone rogue’]
“They have ratcheted up the public’s concerns about the investigation and its legitimacy,” Cobb said. “I object to that approach. But it’s his choice. He’s the president.”
Just how much will be released about special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's Russia investigation is up to Mueller, the attorney general and Congress. (Jenny Starrs/The Washington Post)
Cobb said he has known Mueller for 30 years “as a prosecutor and a friend.”
“I think Bob Mueller’s an American hero,” Cobb said, referencing Mueller’s service in Vietnam as a Marine. “I think Bob Mueller’s a guy that, you know, even though he came from an arguably privileged background, you know, has a backbone of steel. He walked into a firefight in Vietnam to pull out one of his injured colleagues and was appropriately honored for that. . . . He is a very deliberate guy. And he — but he’s also a class act. And a very justice-oriented person.”
In recent months, Trump has derided Mueller, a longtime Republican and former FBI director, accusing him of being ethically conflicted and leading a team of “angry Democrats” in an illegitimate investigation.
“You know, I don’t feel the same way about Mueller,” Cobb said on the ABC podcast. “I don’t feel the investigation is a witch hunt. I wish it had happened on a quicker timetable. But it didn’t. And that’s, you know, and that’s unfortunate. But at the same time, it’s not a real criticism of the special counsel, that on the timing, because there were a lot of surprises.”
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Kput'z will call him a buffoon.
ABC Fake News
Another election crime.
In an exclusive interview, Michael Cohen’s lawyer, Michael Monico reveals for the first time a 2017 check signed by key Trump figures allegedly linked to criminal payments to Stormy Daniels.
Monico walked "The Beat" host Ari Melber through why he thought the check is important: "When Michael Cohen went to see the president for the first time in the White House in February of 2017 and the president, as you may recall his testimony, that he looked at all the lovely art. And the president was proud of the whole scene and it was very awesome as Mr. Cohen said. The president said to Michael at that time, 'You will be getting the two checks soon.' The two checks meaning the two $35,000 checks. Because as you may recall, Alan Weisselberg said that instead of paying the entire [money] in one lump sum, he wanted to pay it over the course of a year, $35,000 even each... month.. And so, this check, the $70,000 check, which is signed, according to my client, by Alan Weisselberg and Donald Trump, Jr., that this check was the first check."
The check, according to Monico, was not presented at the recent hearing. "We didn't have it at the time. We have it today." The check was issued from the Donald J. Trump revocable trust, "a revocable trust that was theoretically begun so that the president would have some separation between his life as a politician and his life as a civil servant."
Monico, a former federal prosecutor, believes that the checks his client Cohen presented into evidence to Congress "would be the most damning legally." "The fact that the president of the United States wrote a check as president to Michael Cohen that was part of a scheme to violate campaign finance violations and to violate the rights of the American [people]."
In an exclusive interview, Michael Cohen’s lawyer, Michael Monico reveals for the first time a 2017 check signed by key Trump figures allegedly linked to criminal payments to Stormy Daniels.
Heh, AOC is in far more trouble with her 1 million dollar slush fund then Trump is with his private payments to a washed up blackmailing porn star.
Roger you are the Baffon.
The very reason for the Mueller.
"Cobb said he does not expect Mueller to show collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia."
Wait, what!
Ok. So Hillary lost because she got out worked.
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