What kind of moron would believe that turning down dirt on your political opponent (from Russians) is more unethical than paying someone to dig up dirt (from Russians) on your political opponent?— C.H. Truth (@C_H_Truth) March 29, 2019
A liberal one?
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KatiePavlich
Important notes on Barr's latest letter re: Mueller release --> 1) Special Counsel is helping w/ redactions 2) Trump isn't going to use executive privilege 3) report won't even be submitted to the WH for privilege review 4) Media screwed up again
You're clinging to the idea that the dossier was the only reason to investigate the Russians intervened into the election.
Your argument is based upon your personal partisan opinion, not the facts. The investigation began before the dossier entered into the investigation.
The Attorney General
Washington, D.C.
March 24, 2019
The Honorable Lindsey Graham
Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary
United States Senate
290 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
The Honorable Jerrold Nadler
Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary
United States House of Representatives
2132 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
The Honorable Dianne Feinstein
Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary
United States Senate
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The Honorable Doug Collins
Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary
United States House of Representatives
1504 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Dear Chairman Graham, Chairman Nadler, Ranking Member Feinstein, and Ranking Member Collins:
As a supplement to the notification provided on Friday, March 22, 2019, I am writing today to advise you of the principal conclusions reached by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III and to inform you about the status of my initial review of the report he has prepared.
The Special Counsel's Report
On Friday, the Special Counsel submitted to me a "confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions” he has reached, as required by 28 C.F.R. $ 600.8(c). This report is entitled “Report on the Investigation into Russian Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election.” Although my review is ongoing, I believe that it is in the public interest to describe the report and to summarize the principal conclusions reached by the Special Counsel and the results of his investigation.
The report explains that the Special Counsel and his staff thoroughly investigated allegations that members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump, and others associated with it, conspired with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, or sought to obstruct the related federal investigations. In the report, the Special Counsel noted that, in completing his investigation, he employed 19 lawyers who were assisted by a team of approximately 40 FBI agents, intelligence analysts, forensic accountants, and other professional staff. The Special Counsel issued more than 2,800 subpoenas, executed nearly 500 search warrants, obtained more than 230 orders for communication records, issued almost 50 orders authorizing use of pen registers, made 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence, and interviewed approximately 500 witnesses.
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The Special Counsel obtained a number of indictments and convictions of individuals and entities in connection with his investigation, all of which have been publicly disclosed. During the course of his investigation, the Special Counsel also referred several matters to other offices for further action. The report does not recommend any further indictments, nor did the Special Counsel obtain any sealed indictments that have yet to be made public. Below, I summarize the principal conclusions set out in the Special Counsel's report.
Russian Interference in the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election.
The Special Counsel's report is divided into two parts. The first describes the results of the Special Counsel's investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The report outlines the Russian effort to influence the election and documents crimes committed by persons associated with the Russian government in connection with those efforts. The report further explains that a primary consideration for the Special Counsel's investigation was whether any Americans – including individuals associated with the Trump campaign – joined the Russian conspiracies to influence the election, which would be a federal crime. The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election. As the report states: “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”1
The Special Counsel's investigation determined that there were two main Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election. The first involved attempts by a Russian organization, the Internet Research Agency (IRA), to conduct disinformation and social media operations in the United States designed to sow social discord, eventually with the aim of interfering with the election. As noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that any U.S. person or Trump campaign official or associate conspired or knowingly coordinated with the IRA in its efforts, although the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian nationals and entities in connection with these activities.
The second element involved the Russian government's efforts to conduct computer hacking operations designed to gather and disseminate information to influence the election. The Special Counsel found that Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from persons affiliated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organizations, and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks. Based on these activities, the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian military officers for conspiring to hack into computers in the United States for purposes of influencing the election. But as noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.
1 In assessing potential conspiracy charges, the Special Counsel also considered whether members of the Trump campaign “coordinated” with Russian election interference activities. The Special Counsel defined “coordination” as an “agreement—tacit or express—between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference.”
Obstruction of Justice.
The report's second part addresses a number of actions by the President – most of which have been the subject of public reporting – that the Special Counsel investigated as potentially raising obstruction-of-justice concerns. After making a “thorough factual investigation” into these matters, the Special Counsel considered whether to evaluate the conduct under Department standards governing prosecution and declination decisions but ultimately determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment. The Special Counsel therefore did not draw a conclusion - one way or the other – as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as “difficult issues” of law and fact concerning whether the President's actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction. The Special Counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”
The Special Counsel's decision to describe the facts of his obstruction investigation without reaching any legal conclusions leaves it to the Attorney General to determine whether the conduct described in the report constitutes a crime. Over the course of the investigation, the Special Counsel's office engaged in discussions with certain Department officials regarding many of the legal and factual matters at issue in the Special Counsel's obstruction investigation. After reviewing the Special Counsel's final report on these issues; consulting with Department officials, including the Office of Legal Counsel; and applying the principles of federal prosecution that guide our charging decisions, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense. Our determination was made without regard to, and is not based on, the constitutional considerations that surround the indictment and criminal prosecution of a sitting president.2
In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that “the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President's intent with respect to obstruction. Generally speaking, to obtain and sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with a sufficient nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloguing the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice offense.
Roger how do obstruct an investigation into a crime, when no underlying crime was committed?
I think they are going to go after Trump's tweets... But that is obviously ridiculous. I can't wait till the scales of justice are balanced with the second special prosecutor and this one shouldn't take so long as there is real evidence.
Roger will be shocked again.
Objection of justice charges are still possible.
Mueller witnesses Michael Caputo and Carter Page join Ari Melber exclusively to discuss the Mueller probe ending without any chargeable collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, as Attorney General Bill Barr pledges to release a redacted version of Mueller’s report by mid-April. Caputo reveals his view that there will “be some bad things” in the Mueller report relating to President Trump and obstruction of justice.
Scott will claim the dossier was the only reason to investigate the allegations of the Russians intervention in the election.
Or the President's claim that it was a coup attempt.
He's threatened to close the border because a craven of Beaners are invading the country.
Shutting down ports of entry would be an economic disaster. It would also disrupt the lives of border communities that rely on the flow of people between the US and Mexico — including the major cities of San Diego (and Tijuana) and El Paso (and Ciudad Juarez).
Approximately $1.5 billion worth of commerce happens along the US-Mexico border every day. Nearly half a million people cross the border legally every day through Texas ports alone.
Even reductions in port capacity or temporary shutdowns tend to lead to panic among the business community and local residents. El Paso is currently concerned that already-long waits at the ports could get longer as agents are reassigned to care for unauthorized migrants. When the San Ysidro port of entry in San Diego shut down for a few hours in November, as agents responded with force (including tear gas) to an organized march of asylum seekers, the temporary closure cost about $5.3 million in lost business revenue.
But at least the beaners can't vote for the Democrats!
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Roger how do obstruct an investigation into a crime, when no underlying crime was committed?
don't hold your breath waiting for the board drunk to give an answer.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Objection of justice charges are still possible.
so is winning the powerball lottery, genius.
but your powerball odds are better.
try telling us, without the benefit of a lengthy and meaningless copy/paste, exactly how one gets to obstruction of justice charges from where we are today.
Somewhat less since there is no such crime as objection to justice.
Scott will claim the dossier was the only reason to investigate the allegations of the Russians intervention in the election.
stop repeating this same old tired lie, alky.
the REASON for the investigation was the 'russia, russia, russia, excuse crafted by team hillary to explain a way her historic defeat.
the EVIDENCE used to fuel the investigation was the dossier paid for by team hillary using perkins coie as the pass-through.
Looks like we won't have to destroy Joe Biden.
The Democrat party is doing it for us.
Heh.
in other news, everything controlled by liberals eventually turns to shit; chapter 7394...
On March 25th, the National Guard Bureau officially announced new branding for recruiting. The traditional “Minuteman” logo will no longer appear on recruiting materials. It was reported that the image did not “resonate” with 16-18-year-old high school students because of lack of knowledge of the historic symbol. Concerns were also expressed that iconic figure from American history wasn’t “inclusive.” Furthermore, due to “no tolerance” policies concerning the display of images of firearms in schools, the traditional Minuteman logo could not be displayed due to inclusion of an 18th century flintlock rifle. Now the National Guard will be represented by a lackluster shield shaped black logo with white and gold lettering. The new recruiting videos will focus primarily on the National Guard’s domestic mission of natural disaster relief.
https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/national-guard-changes-logo-due-failure-american-education-system
biden was always particularly repulsive to me. and it wasn't so much that he's a fucking pervert. that's disgusting in and of itself. it's that he's been a parasite on the american people his entire pathetic life. he's bernie without the cheesy brooklyn accent and beer gut.
al-guard-changes-logo-due-failure-american-education-system
Hey rat hole....most amusing post since the prime examples of educational failures are you and menstral our walking cramp!!!!
Two drop outs without any visible means of support!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Ironically Dennis just named two people who were both smarter and more educated than he is.
biden was always particularly repulsive to me.
While trump and his whorish behavior grabbing pussy and lying with impunity is not.....How fucking stupid that is!!!!
biden was always particularly repulsive to me
He was also the Democrat best if not only chance to beat Trump.
Those old white blue coller voters in the mid-west will vote for Trump en mass.
Why do you assholes accept this behavior from trump and not do anything about it????? Amazing how blind you are....!!!
When Donald Trump’s children and campaign staff arrived in South Florida during the 2016 presidential campaign, they were often greeted at the airport by Zoltan Tamas in a black Cadillac Escalade. As a senior security guard at Trump National Golf Club in the town of Jupiter, Mr. Tamas was licensed to carry a gun. He bought a home, paid taxes and never ran afoul of the law since immigrating legally to the United States from Romania in 2011.
But for eight months, Mr. Tamas, 38, has been locked in a correctional facility six hours’ drive from his family as he fights a protracted legal battle to remain in the United States. During that time, he has not once seen his wife, 11-year-old son and 8-year-old daughter, who suffers from congenital heart disease.
Mr. Tamas has fallen prey to the crackdown on immigration that is at the top of the president’s national agenda — and letters of support from high-profile businesspeople and his former bosses have so far not helped him win leniency.
old white blue collar voters in the mid-west will vote for Trump en mass.
Especially after cuts to medicare....BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
Those old white blue coller voters in the mid-west will vote for Trump en mass.
absolutely. now, i'm not willing to go "all alky" and start making predictions, especially of the landslide variety, but if i'm a democrat party operative, i'm starting to try and figure out just how big my voter fraud effort needs to be to overcome trump's reelection.
in the absence of a candidate who can actually beat trump, democrats will be reduced to cheating on a massive scale. and they'll do it - consequences be damned - just like with their attempted coup.
there's two things you can always count on with democrats -
they know no shame...
...and they possess no instinct for the consequences of their actions.
huh. so the guy's a fucking thief -
However, Tamas was arrested by immigration authorities after he applied for U.S. citizenship in 2016 and was discovered to have had been convicted in absentia of committing insurance fraud in Romania following a background check, according to the Times.
Tamas’s wife, Alina Rogozan, told the Times that she believes the crime may have occurred when one of his friends used his name to make fake claims to an auto insurer. However, Tamas’s lawyer told the paper that the Romanian government never lodged an extradition claim for the crime.
In detention for the past eight months, Tamas has reportedly been unable to see his wife, their 11-year-old son or their 8-year-old daughter, who has been diagnosed with a congenital heart disease.
Several months ago, a judge reportedly ordered Tamas to be deported. His lawyer has since filed a motion seeking to reopen the case with the Board of Immigration Appeals, which previously upheld the court’s deportation order, according to the Times.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/436511-a-former-driver-for-the-trump-family-has-been-in-ice-detention
"immigrating legally to the United States from Romania in 2011."
So why is he being held?
"immigrating legally to the United States from Romania in 2011."
And the asshole trump hired him!!!!!! But. that's okay for idiots like you goat fucker.....LOLOLOLOL
huh. so the guy's a fucking thief -
And an illegal who trump hired without question....nothing wrong with that right asshole?????
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-undocumented-immigrants-tower-demolish-724845
A repeating pattern of our asshole in chief....hiring illegals and not paying them.....and you all keep slurping him down.....!!!! God you are a dumb fuck ass breath!!!!
C.H. Truth
@C_H_Truth
What kind of moron would believe that turning down dirt on your political opponent (from Russians) is more unethical than paying someone to dig up dirt (from Russians) on your political opponent?
someone so lo on the iq scale who's been posting all morning and thinks this is worthwhile: "dumb fuck ass breath!"
WINNER !!! lo iq "unknown"
of course he holds the lifetime lo iq achievement award ROFLMFAO !!!
Watch the long faces as Jeh Johnson, Obama’s DHS Secretary, tells MSNBC that the border is ‘truly in a crisis’
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/03/watch_the_long_faces_as_jeh_johnson_obamas_dhs_secretary_tells_msnbc_that_the_border_truly_in_a_crisis.html
Way past time to do something
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Obama’s FBI used a bogus file of fiction bought by Hillary’s campaign to mislead a judge so it could spy on the nominee for the other party and then pressure a probe after GOP victory, but this isn’t a scandal about the corruption of Democrats or DOJ because shut up bot.
9:36 PM - 27 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/hale_razor/status/1111124874926317568
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Looking forward to President Trump using the Obama-era rule that allows spying on the opposition campaign for any reason at all
Hitler finds out the Mueller Investigation is Over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cVsmuxOj28
ry, tells MSNBC that the border is ‘truly in a crisis’
Yes he did....but his reason for the crisis does not support building a wall....a humanitarian crisis because of having no room for illegals to be kept in.....or as he pointed out....lack of judges that are not needed for the R agenda of getting rid of the ACA or women rights....just lowly judges who determine if amnesty is granted...and who the fuck needs more beaners!!!!!!!
Obama’s FBI used a bogus file of fiction bought by Hillary’s campaign to mislead a judge
Another worthless opinion that supports the stupidity of dumb fucks like rathole and his minions....BWAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Looking forward to President Trump using the Obama-era rule that allows spying on the opposition campaign for any reason at all
absolutely. clearly that precedent has been set.
and personally i'm also looking forward to the immediate appointment of a special counsel the next time a democrat is elected president. i pity those individuals in that person's personal, political, and professional orbit though. i mean, to be completely fucking ruined over nothing more than a casual acquaintance with a person might seem extreme, but once again, that precedent has been set.
so i would recommend to those anywhere near the frontrunners to set up their legal defense 'go fund me' accounts now, and start soliciting donations immediately. they can always donate the money to charity if they escape persecution, but they need to hedge their bets against ending up $5MILLION in legal debt like mike flynn.
Roger still doesn't understand or acknowledge the point in all of this.
It's not whether the dossier was used to start the investigation.
It's why liberals insist that paying a foreign agent to go to Russian sources and dig up dirt is not "collusion".
It's not whether the dossier was used to start the investigation.
It's why liberals insist that paying a foreign agent to go to
Amazing CH how you twist your own bias into another unfounded theory and bullshit....Roger understands perfectly that you will defend trump until he is frog marched out of the WH....you are the one with a major problem....no one else...>BWAAAAAAAA!!!!
Maybe we should ban all opposition research....seems that is the only acceptable thing for idiots like you.....
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/15/gop-group-preps-opposition-research-blitz-against-mike-bloomberg.html
I am sure the GOP never used a nefarious source for their bullshit....BWAAAA!!!!
It's why liberals insist that paying a foreign agent to go to Russian sources and dig up dirt is not "collusion".
i'm also curious as to whether or not using a law firm to launder the payment from the clinton campaign to glenn simpson and fusion gps is a campaign finance violation.
the $130K paid to skanky daniels was supposed to be the end of the fucking world, but the $$$ paid for the dossier, not so much.
using a law firm to launder the payment from the clinton campaign to glenn simpson and fusion gps is a campaign finance violation.
Maybe it is, but didn't she loose ass breath....You and lindsey graham need a big hug and get over the fact that trump is the dirtiest politician ever to sit in the oval office and no matter what hillary may have done....it pales to the lies and BS now spewing from our chief of corruption....Unlike trump who paid off hookers to get elected.....BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!
but the $$$ paid for the dossier, not so much.
Not so much what....Seems it was legal to me.....unlike trump stealing money to keep women shut up......so sad you fail to understand such a simple concept....dumb fuck....LOL
The scumbags of the GOP make money on opposition research.....ain't that sweet????? Seems this has been ignored....wonder why???
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America Rising LLC, the for-profit opposition research firm founded by Republican Party operatives, took in more than $1.3 million in revenue from regulated political groups in the last six months of 2013, the group announced Friday.
“In just over six months America Rising LLC has grown into the largest research and tracking organization on the right, working with myriad GOP and conservative organizations to make sure Democrats are held accountable for their records,” said Tim Miller, a founding partner of America Rising LLC, said in a statement to TIME. “We are encouraged by the support we’ve received across the party and our expectation and plan is that America Rising LLC will grow its staff and geographic footprint in 2014.”
Founded by former Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades, and former Republican National Committee operatives Miller and Joe Pounder, America Rising LLC doesn’t report its earnings to the Federal Election Commission. But many of its clients, including campaigns and third party groups, do disclose payments to America Rising, prompting the group to open its own books this week before a key filing deadline. The $1.3 million sum only includes earnings from political groups that report to the FEC, including American Crossroads, American Action Network, Young Guns, Citizens United, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee. It does not include the firm’s corporate and individual clients; that information is not publicly available.
Hitler finds out the Mueller Investigation is Over
Don't worry, lo iq is still researching this one. He obviously found something 6 years old started by a Romney aid...
And he thinks if he can find a link it must be true, except if it's from twitter. And regardless of any context or timeframe. So he's on that Hitler thing.
ROFLMFAO !!!... well we know he will be busy all day.
Opposition research is not (collusion)
The gold Tower meeting to dig up dirt on crooked Hillary Clinton is not "collusion" in your TCDNR mindset.
Trump Can Do No Wrong.
Roger
Tell me why...
Hiring a foreign agent to use Russian sources to dig up dirt which is used to spread false information about a candidate
is better than
A Russian source coming to you, and you not using the dirt?
Seems like what you are saying is if Trump Jr had "paid" his friend to find the Russian attorney who may have had dirt on Hillary... and then have them actually use (even though they knew it was fake) then it would have been "opposition research".
But because he wasn't paying someone then it is collusion?
Please explain?
Crickets
Roger is not smart enough to even contemplate it.
you see, Democrats and their lying liberal media told him that when they used foreign agents to dig up dirt from Russians regarding Donald Trump, that it is simply legal opposition research.
It's only a crime when the dirt is used against a Democrat.
Pretty sure Roger must believe that the law must say so, otherwise there is nothing objectively or logically to help make any argument otherwise.
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