Tuesday, April 30, 2019

Is Biden the 2020 Clinton?

Lot's of debate about whether Biden is "exactly" what Democrats need, or just another mainstream player like Hillary who will be cast aside as part of the swamp. Much of this depends on why you think Hillary lost in 2016.

They think Donald Trump has a chance against us?
For many, the 2016 loss was based on the concept that Democrats "handed" the nomination to the wrong person. They wanted Bernie or someone with a little more "spark" to go up against Trump and his thunderous personality and boisterous campaign. Others believed that they picked the "right" candidate, but that the candidate just ran a horrible campaign. It was her race to lose, and she managed to lose it.

I happen to believe that 2016 and 2020 are not remotely connected. In 2016 we were just finishing the second of two terms of a reasonably popular (especially popular with the media) liberal President. The country was doing "better" but nobody was very comfortable with the economy and plenty of other things. The question was about status quo, security of picking a known quantity, or going with an outsider who is looking to "drain the swamp".

In 2020 we have a much different question to answer. Things economically are more secure (and probably will still be come next November). But we have anything but a "status quo" going on in the Trump kingdom. In some ways, a Joe Biden becomes almost the "status quo" of going back to a degree of normality, while Trump still almost plays the outsider looking to retain his outsider role for four more years. 

This whole concept can be further enhanced by an argument that the entire Trump Presidency has been sort of upended by investigations, Special Counsel, etc. There is a feeling from many Trump supporters that a reelection may be more of a reaffirmation and an allowance for him to actually be President, which he hasn't really been able to do so far. The argument might be valid to say that he needs a second term, just to really be allowed to play out much of his first term.

Ultimately, neither Biden or Clinton are or were particularly good candidates. Both have lost multiple times, and that sort of thing happens for a reason. That being said, perhaps Biden (and his 76 years) might be the best that the Democrats have to offer this time around.

28 comments:

Commonsense said...

Well, he's more likeable than Clinton.

On the down side he's more creepy.

Anonymous said...

His Ukranian Deals during his days Under Obama and his threats to with hold aid unless they did work with his son is coming out.

Anonymous said...

Biden admitted the Stock Markets are soaring, but, Biden told those Union Workers none of it helped them.

Anonymous said...

When ya lose Bill Maher.
"Russians were engaged in a systemic effort to interfere in our election; that the Trump campaign welcomed it, embraced it, built it into their plan, made full use of it, lied about it, covered it up, and then obstructed the investigation into it; and, if we had any doubt before about this president’s fitness for office, there is no doubt remaining: he is unfit for the presidency.”

Maher then pushed back. “But this was our big gun. Now it just looks like you’re stalking him,” he said. “I think in the eyes of the people who don’t follow it that closely, which is most of the country, here’s the thing about Bob Mueller: he’s the last thing in America that left and right agreed on. Left and right basically agreed, this is a guy of honor, this is an honest guy, an honest broker, whatever he says goes…The fact that he was like umm…If you couldn’t impeach before, how are you going to impeach after? Or should you?”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If the Democrats remain untied after the nomination process, the numbers indicate the President is in danger.

Side topic is the President and the Democratic leaders seem to have come to terms on the infrastructure improvements, totalling more than two Trillion dollars.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump is a lot more creepy than Biden.


Pussy grabbing vs touching her hair.

Tim Young said...

‏@TimRunsHisMouth

Joe Biden is touring Iowa today... So get ready for media coverage with lots of tight camera angles from half-full Bingo halls and Ramada conference rooms.

Anonymous said...

Joe Biden lied to the Members of teamsters local 249 .

I looked up their Pension Plan, it has a 85 % holding in Stocks.
Those workers have seen a Yuge prick in those holding.

Anonymous said...

Live feed Roger.
"Side topic is the President and the Democratic leaders seem to have come to terms on the infrastructure improvements, totalling more than two Trillion dollars."

Really, how does Speaker in Name Only Polosi pay for it?

Without tax increases, can be on fuel, that tax hurts the low income people like you and Denise the worse.

Anonymous said...

😂🤣😁😃😀 Unexpectedly 😆😁😂🤣😆😄

"The Conference Board said Tuesday that its index of consumer confidence rose to 129.2 in April from 124.2 in March, continuing its rebound from February’s plunge. Economists had forecast a rise to 127.1."

Chad Prather said...

‏@WatchChad

Hey kids....There is no such thing as “government funded.”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Gasoline is over $4.009 regular here.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

64% oppose Trump's move to build a wall;


On asylum, just 30% support stricter rules.

Fake news polling

Anonymous said...

Again today disjointed Roger will not be answering questions about the topics he brings here, nothing past a spam cut n paste.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

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Commonsense said...
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Commonsense said...

Trump is a lot more creepy than Biden.
Pussy grabbing vs touching her hair.

All you have on Trump is his locker room bragging to bunch of other guys.

Meanwhile, there's art on Biden. Lot's of art of nonconsensual touching and hair sniffing.

Anonymous said...

CS is right.

Anonymous said...

Look at this Stupid Asshole.
"Democratic presidential candidate Robert Francis O’Rourke sounded the alarms on Monday, saying that civilization has only “ten years” left to address climate change."

Under cutting Luddite Cortez by two years.

Anonymous said...

Roger , why is your racist , sexist party not in favor of the cunts running for the top spot on the Ticket?

Commonsense said...

Look at this Stupid Asshole.
"Democratic presidential candidate Robert Francis O’Rourke sounded the alarms on Monday, saying that civilization has only “ten years” left to address climate change."


Actually you have about 4.5 billion years to the mother of all global warming.

And no, humans won't be able to do anything about that one either. (Except leave.)

I've decided not to worry about it though.

C.H. Truth said...

Pussy grabbing vs touching her hair.

Talking about something...
Actually doing it...

Yes, there is a big difference.

C.H. Truth said...

"Democratic presidential candidate Robert Francis O’Rourke sounded the alarms on Monday, saying that civilization has only “ten years” left to address climate change." Under cutting Luddite Cortez by two years.

Look for Buttigeig to fall in with 9, Harris to then say 8, booker to argue 7.5, etc...

all until they get to "number 5" who will tell us all that the apocalypse is only 8 days away!

caliphate4vr said...

The left's utopia is in meltdown

Anonymous said...

Speaking in Name Only Polosi said the Trump Tax Cut was "Armengeddon".

So is the end now?

Anonymous said...

Socialism always turns on the people.
Maxims, Communism and Socialism are all death cults.

caliphate4vr said...

Trump Pushes to Designate Muslim Brotherhood a Terrorist Group

About damn time. To hell with Obunghole, ValJar and Brennan

Anonymous said...

Roger, Trump is a Nazi- Russian Spy.

How is it Speaker in Name Only Polosi and her dog on a choke chain Schumer are working with him?