Saturday, April 27, 2019

Where are those people who don't accept Robert Mueller's report?

It looks like a lot of them are on twitter!

So Robert Mueller concluded that no Americans (much less anyone from the Trump campaign) conspired or coordinated with any Russians associated with anything having to do with the election meddling. This was his bottom line take away from his 22 month, $30 million dollar Special Counsel investigation. It was also very likely the most objectively honest portion of his report. Oh, and that opinion is factually backed by the fact that the indictment happy Mueller team was incapable of finding even one American to indict in regards to conspiracy or coordination.


So when someone gives you a list of how many people Mueller and his team "did" indict and charge, that doesn't justify the investigation. It actually just reinforces the idea that there was absolutely no evidence of conspiracy or coordination. Ever. Mueller indicted multiple people whom the FBI had previously chosen not to recommend for indictment. He dug up old crimes against Manafort and Gates. He indicted dozens of Russians for their involvement in their election meddling (with no chance of convicting any of them). Mueller called for a late night SWAT team raid on the home of a 70 year old man, so he could be arrested for a process crime.

But not one American was indicted for what he was tasked to investigate. Zero.

Let that sink in.

Sure, Mueller lists a whole bunch of contacts, which by fact of his own report, were not examples of conspiracy or coordination. These include members of the Trump Organization talking to Russian business associates about Business deals that had nothing to do with the election.  The list included Carter Page traveling to Russia to give an address at a Russian school which had nothing to do with the election. The list included Paul Manafort talking to Konstantin Kilimnik who was (like Manafort) a political consultant in Eastern Europe. He includes Russian diplomats reaching out to Trump transition team post election.  His ramblings mention several people who were not even Russian as examples of Russian contacts. The most egregious example being George Papadopoulos meeting with British professor Joseph Mifsud. Mueller lists this one under the pretense that Mifsud 'had ties" to Russia (which Mueller never clarifies, explains, or proves). Since then we have seen evidence that Mifsud has ties to British Intelligence, Fusion GPS, and the Clinton Foundation (something that Mueller never bothers to mention).

This one is especially egregious "because" the FBI and others have stated that Papadopoulos (who did little more than hear something and repeat something) was the reason that this entire thing began. How can it possibly be believed that a British professor saying something to a  low level campaign worker was any sort of a valid reason to start the biggest counterintelligence and possibly the most charged "criminal" investigation into a sitting President in the history of our county. Literally, the FBI is stating this started because of gossip over drinks between two people who had no real association with anyone. Moreover, this was gossip. No proof was given. No actual documents passed hands. No follow up. Just gossip. But we are expected to believe that this gossip started everything?


Make no mistake, this list is red herring. Plain and simple. None of it furthers the allegations of conspiracy or coordination. Many of these contacts had been going on long before Trump was even involved (Trump Organization and Russian Business interests - Gates, Manafort and Kilimnik). Many were completely normal behavior (business people talking to business people, political consultants taking to political consultants, foreign diplomats reaching out to transition teams). None were illegal in any manner, shape, or form.

Let me repeat that. None of these contacts were illegal in any manner, shape, or form. Not even Mueller disagrees with that fact (or of course he would have charged someone with something). But of course... he didn't charge anyone for any of it, now did he?

So how is it that some people just won't let go?

Well this is a case study in partisanship, bias confirmation, and cognitive dissonance. Imagine if you (like them) had spent the past two years exclusively listening to pundits on CNN and MSNBC,  and reading the NYT, Politico, and WaPo.


Imagine watching Rachel Maddow, Chris Wallace, and Don Lemon droning on and on about collusion for two years straight. Legal "experts" like Jeffry Toobin, Laurence Tribe, and Michael Avenatti giving you the "legal" reasoning why Mueller was finding everything he needed to prove a grand conspiracy. Former Obama officials like John Brennan, James Clapper and others coming on these shows and predicting all sorts of bombshell indictments, implying that they had inside information.

Imagine if all you read was reports in the Time and Post about "bombshells" surrounding the investigation coming from anonymous sources that journalist told you they could quote with "a high degree of confidence" that their damning information was real. Imagine if you were fed little more than Maggie Haberman, E.J Dionne and Nicholas Kristof all in lock step that the President was going down.

How could you "not" be convinced of what was going to happen? How could you not have overwhelming expectations after two years of being promised upcoming proof of conspiracy, that would involve indictments and arrests of high ranking Trump administration officials, quite possibly involving the President's own family and inner circle.  Of course, given how much many of these people flat out "hate" the President, this sort of thing is hard to let go.

The key to any good conspiracy theory is to not let it go. The reasoning is always the same. Lack of evidence is simply proof of a cover up. Conspiracy theorists  have to be prepared to step through these little speed bumps (like a 22 month $30 million investigation failing to prove any conspiracy or coordination). Let's call it dedication to their hatred and conspiracy theory and give them props for their efforts. It can't be easy to live in such denial!

31 comments:

Anonymous said...




the other thing that needs to sink in -

there are actually tens of millions of people who are heartbroken and devastated at the fact that it was determined that our president IS NOT a traitor.

how fucked up is that?

if that's not illustrative of a mental illness i don't know what is.


James Brennan said...

It's not my fault. I had bad sources.

C.H. Truth said...

if that's not illustrative of a mental illness i don't know what is.

Trump derangement syndrome!

C.H. Truth said...

btw... you think it gets ugly around here, try twitter.

It's like it's designed to help those who only insult and make cheap statements. Seriously, how can you have a reasonable discussion and make a reasonable point in less than 280 characters.

Anonymous said...




i could never join twitter

@jack would ban my ass 15 minutes after i showed up.


Commonsense said...

Nice picture of Roger.

Anonymous said...

Hey Mr Truth. You should have stuck with 280 characters.

Aaron Maté said...

@aaronjmate

Anyone notice how Mueller's report acknowledges how thin the official predicate for FBI probe was? Note the ambiguous qualifiers: "suggested" "indications" "could assist." And it doesn't claim George P heard about stolen Democratic emails -- just "information damaging" to HRC

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your entire rant is a classic and of Trump derangement syndrome!

He has invaded your mind.


Representative Schiff said the only solution is to kick his ass.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump has refused to protect the American election system from the malevolent designs of a foreign enemy. Thanks to leaks, we know now that he has been doing this for the last two years, even though other members of the administration, like Kirstjen Nielsen, were prepared to take strong, defensive measures. Why? Because any mention of Russian interference reminds him of the question of his legitimacy, and that enrages him.

Don't make the King angry.

He's above the law.

the only solution is to kick his ass.

C.H. Truth said...

Your entire rant is a classic and of Trump derangement syndrome!

Okay - this makes no sense. Should we assume your actual statement that made grammatical sense was somehow overwritten by spell check or something?

C.H. Truth said...

Trump has refused to protect the American election system from the malevolent designs of a foreign enemy.

Trump wasn't President and had no means to protect anyone. That was the job of Obama, Lynch, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and the rest of that gang. If the Russians disrupted our election it was 100% their fault.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump has refused to protect the future American elections from the malevolent designs of a foreign enemy. His staff is afraid of him getting angry and shouting I'm fucked!

And publishing an incoherent tweet tirade.

Ignoring that fact is a symptom of Trumpism stage four.

You should put a picture of King King Donald J. Trump I with a Golden Crown with Trump on the front of the Crown.

Black Conservative Movement said...

@BCMAmerica

After voting for the Democrats for 60 years we realized it was time to leave.

We've been called names all because we chose to think for ourselves

The Democrats haven't been this mad at us since they gave up their slaves

The left #cantbullyus !!

judy morris said...

@judymorris3

Poway Synagogue Shooter Left a Manifesto - Calls President Trump a "Zionist, Anti-White, Traitorous, C*cksucker"...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/04/poway-synagogue-shooter-left-a-manifesto-admits-to-arson-at-mosque-calls-trump-a-zionist-anti-white-traitorous-ccksucker/

The various people who falsely characterize President Trump's response to Charleston, planted instigators at his rallies, label him a Nazi or Hitler and try to divide America are a root cause of this. They know who they are.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Unless your experience as a paper pusher, then the former director of the CIA, gives you more qualifications, than he has, you are full of shit.

Former CIA Director John Brennan responded Friday morning to claims made by President Trump in an interview Thursday night with Fox News host Sean Hannity about an attempted 'coup' by the CIA to overthrow Trump: "I don't think it's surprising at all that we hear these sociopathic ramblings from Mr. Trump claiming there was this effort to try to prevent him from being elected or to try to unseat him."

"This was a coup, this was an attempted overthrow of the United States government," President Trump said about the use of the Steele dossier to obtain FISA warrants on members of his campaign. "These are sick, sick people... Let's see how high it goes up because it's inconceivable when it goes to Clapper, Brennan, Comey, these people, I would imagine some other people maybe higher up also knew about it."




Speaking on MSNBC, the former CIA director said he would gladly testify in Congress about what he did and asserted that it was the FBI, not the CIA, who pushed for the Steele dossier to be included in an intelligence report given to President-elect Trump.

"Before the Obama administration left office, we put out everything we could," Brennan explained. "And, unfortunately, this administration and Donald Trump refuses to continue to acknowledge what the Russians did and to take steps to prevent them from doing it in the future. I truly suspect that Donald Trump would not mind if the Russians interfered again if it was going to advance his prospects for re-election."




Anonymous said...

Roger, your team.was in charge in 2016.

By 2018 the election under Trump had zero interference .



Anonymous said...

Brennan is not at all well.

Anonymous said...

Prison time would kill him.quick.

Anonymous said...

On US Manufacturing "Those jobs are not coming back " @asshole Obimbo

"President Donald Trump revealed at a Saturday night rally in Wisconsin that Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told him earlier that Japanese auto manufacturers are investing $40 billion in U.S. manufacturing facilities."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The economy was growing rapidly in 2018, the Democrats took 41 seats in the house, and the popular vote margin was huge.


The Democrats can't impeach and convict him. But they can and will conduct investigations into the actions of the President and show that he is a clear and present danger to the United States and the Constitution.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Brennan is not going to prison.
Shut up kput'z

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Hillary Clinton was far from the ideal candidate. Too many people just don't like her, and too many people who supported Sanders didn't vote, and had they showed up 2016, we wouldn't be dealing with the worst President ever elected by a minority vote.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Roger,

Sleepy Joe Biden just announced he’s running for President of the United States for the 2020 Election and hopes to reinstitute all of Obama’s failed policies. What a joke!

Can you imagine what would happen in 2020 if someone like Joe Biden actually won… He was nothing but a talking parrot for Obama and he would turn America into a RADICAL LIBERAL Nation run by Corrupt Coastal Elites.

We’d go from putting America First back to handing bags of cash to Iran!

anonymous said...

By 2018 the election under Trump had zero interference .

Hey goat fucker......whose ass is your head stuck up to be so willfully stupid???????

https://globalnews.ca/news/5208501/russian-interference-2020-us-election/

Anonymous said...

Russians helped Socialist Democrats win US House.
Ty, Denise.

Will Brennan flip on others to stay out of Prison?

Rosenstien was flipped and is showing Bar all the people that attempted the coup of The 2016 Presidential Elect.

anonymous said...


Russians helped Socialist Democrats win US House.

Only a stupid goat fucking idiot would conclude that......When you lose by 8 million votes, the people spoke which is beyond your capability to understand.....The asshole of kansas said trump had everything under control in 2018 and he got his old fat white ass you suck on kicked.....idiot.

Anonymous said...

Trump won

cowardly king obama said...


Roger Amick said...
Unless your experience as a paper pusher, then the former director of the CIA, gives you more qualifications, than he has, you are full of shit


WTF does this even mean?

And then he quotes Brennan to supposedly exonerate Brennan.

Justice doesn't work that way. Most criminals say they are innocent. But most other people don't use those statements to say "see, he's innocent".

Can't make this shit up. GET HELP roger, like everyone here tells you.

anonymous said...

Trump won

Everything but the total vote.....asshole..

Anonymous said...

And that matters How?