Wednesday, June 5, 2019

One of those things that CNN and NYT will likely ignore...

Bombshell?
The chief judge of the secret intelligence courts, Rosemary Collyer, has already delivered a report to DoJ saying that the court was not given full, truthful information in warrant applications.
Just a thing that might have expected to hear more about. The entire defense of the Obama Administration intelligence community spying surveillance on the Trump campaign was based on the fact that they got Judges to sign off on these FISA warrants. Obviously (the argument goes) they must have had just cause to garner these warrants.

But if (as many suspected) they mislead the Judges, then that argument not only falls to the wayside, but produces possibly a bigger problem for the Obama era Intelligence community.

We are also getting more facts that show that the investigation started likely even before they got information on George Papadopoulos, meaning that explanation would be entirely false.

It would then look something like this:

  • Democratic Administration officials use Democratic Opposition research paid for in part by the Democratic Presidential campaign, to trigger an FBI and counterintelligence investigation into the Republican Presidential campaign. 
  • Democratic Administration officials mislead FISA Judges to get warrant to garner actual surveillance on Republican Presidential campaign.
  • Democratic Administration officials used FBI and other government resources to smear a Presidential campaign, undermine his candidacy, and ultimately undermine his Presidency.
  • Democratic Administration officials lied to the public and in hearings about the origins of the investigation, and the reasons for the investigation. 

When you add this all together with the known text messages regarding high level Investigators using investigations into the President as an "insurance policy" along with undisputed reports that holdover Democratic Administration officials had gotten together and looked into the possibility of using wires and other unethical behavior to invoke a 25th Amendment scheme to remove the President... suddenly, the idea that this was a "coup" is not very far-fetched. 

Ironically, Democrats still think it's the President that should be punished in all of this. You can't make this shit up, folks.


76 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump said he was greeted by thousands in the UK, but they were actually thousands of protesters. How does he always hear the opposite of the truth? Donald, if you’re reading this you SHOULD NOT slam your dick in a door!


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You descent into insanity is reaching nuclear power.

The Deep State conspiracy theories, would lead to beheading Obama and crooked Hillary Clinton.

Get help.

Myballs said...

Hey stupidass, maybe thousands on both sides? There are many people in the UK ya know.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger...

So explain away the fact that the Chief Judge of the FISA courts is now on record as saying the warrant applications were not truthful?

You were one of the many who kept claiming that they were legitimate because a Judge signed off.


If the Chief Judge of the FISA courts suggested that the Trump administration was garnering warrants against political opponents by producing untruthful and misleading applications...

You would be besides yourself calling for a public hanging of every Republican associated.

cowardly king obama said...


You know if anyone EVER asks Obama about this he will say he did everything by the book and the first he heard of any of this was when he read it in the newspaper.

But the writing is on the wall.

And Trump is now pissed. And smiling.

anonymous said...

maybe thousands on both sides?

Sure there were.....and you wonder why I call you a loser?????

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The President is in deep shit.

President Donald Trump's approval rating is underwater in several key battleground states ahead of the 2020 election, according to a newly-released report from Morning Consult.


President Donald Trump's approval rating is underwater in several key battleground states ahead of the 2020 election, according to a newly-released report from Morning Consult.

Morning Consult, which conducts daily surveys tracking Trump's approval rating, found that Trump now maintains a net-zero or negative approval rating in nine critical swing states — all of which he carried in 2016, with the exception of New Hampshire.

*Trump has a net approval rating of -19 in New Hampshire, with 39% approving of his job performance and 58% disapproving.
He maintains a net approval rating of -13

* In Wisconsin with 42% approval and 55% disapproval.In Michigan, Trump has a -12 net approval rating, with 42% approval and 54% disapproval.


*Trump also has a -12 net approval rating in Iowa, with 42% approval and 54% disapproval.


*He holds a -7 net approval rating in Pennsylvania, with 45% approval and 52% disapproval.


*In Arizona, Trump has a -6 net approval rating with 45% approval and 51% disapproval.


*Trump holds a -4 net approval rating in Ohio, with 46% approval and 50% disapproval.

*His net approval is also -4 in North Carolina, also with 46% approval and 50% disapproval.

*And Trump has a net approval rating of 0 in Florida,with 48% approval and 48% disapproval.

Your obsession with the Deep Throat Trumpism demands intellectual attention from a brick wall.

anonymous said...

Hey roger....

With trump buried up to his neck in shit and someone threw a handful of snot at him....do you think he would duck????????

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I just read several articles about the lawyer you took one paragraph from his earlier statement.

He still believes that dossier Hillary paid for, allegedly, and the Popodopolis meeting was not important. And that Mueller intentionally loaded his investigation members were OMG Democrats.

The popular who acted irresponsibly, were fired.

The Judge Chief Judge of the FISA courts suggested that the Trump administration was garnering warrants against political opponents by producing untruthful and misleading applications....

That's your interpretation of what he said.

He's a very intelligent person. I was impressed with some of his work. But I don't buy into the conspiracy theory swamp.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He would tweet that he didn't duck because he is a brave hero.

Anonymous said...

US Farmers look to Out Produce past years in Grain Production.

https://www.agriculture.com/news/crops/us-crop-production-unlikely-to-suffer-much-from-floods

Anonymous said...

Denise , a yes or no question.

Are you betting that US Farmers Produce less, wheat, corn and soybean in 2019 then was produced in 2018?

Anonymous said...

Queer Behavior by Alky , thinking of Trumps cock.

Is that why Mail Order Bailed??

Anonymous said...

So explain away the fact that the Chief Judge of the FISA courts is now on record as saying the warrant applications were not truthful? "CHT

A "defective" affidavit invalidates the warrant(s).

Commonsense said...

Trump said he was greeted by thousands in the UK, but they were actually thousands of protesters

Kind of remarkable that the UK press (which is as liberal as their American counterparts) was in general more ecstatic and complimentary of Trump.

From their point of view the visit went well.

Coverage of the protesters was not so complimentary. Most of media there said the immature and uncivil tone was an embarrassment to the country.

anonymous said...

From their point of view the visit went well.

Bullshit, cramps....another lie ....!!!!!

anonymous said...

fact that the Chief Judge of the FISA courts is now on record as saying the warrant applications were not truthful? "CHT

Because that is bullshit goat fucker....

Commonsense said...

You can read the UK coverage yourself Denny.

If you dare.

anonymous said...

Another example of the goat fucker lying.....

https://www.agriculture.com/news/crops/us-crop-production-unlikely-to-suffer-much-from-floods

April 1 date.....and it says IF plans to plant 92.8 million acres of corn and 84.6 million acres of soybeans, they would be on track to harvest the second-largest corn crop and the fourth-largest soybean crop on record after allowing for abandonment of some of the land due to bad weather, disease, or pests. USDA projects 1 million acres, on average, would produce 176 million bushels of corn or 49.5 million bushels of corn this year.

The USDA report was based on a survey of more than 82,000 farmers during the first two weeks of March, just before a blizzard swept cattle-producing western Nebraska and heavy spring rains accelerated snowmelt in the upper Missouri River basin

anonymous said...

You can read the UK coverage yourself Denny.

I have and that is why I called bullshit on you again, cramps.....nice try that once again you cannot back up shit,.....BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Anonymous said...

The Successful Farmer website is lying as are the 82,ooo Farmers that actually own the land, plant the seed and take the financial Risk.
According to science denier Denise .

Anonymous said...

I stand always with the best 2 percent of Americans .

anonymous said...

The Successful Farmer website is lying as are the 82,ooo Farmers that actually own the land,

Which proves a whole lot of people work while you post here. BTW I said you lied asshole....BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! And ..Thanx for playing.....

Commonsense said...

I have and that is why

Yeah, sure Denny.

anonymous said...

I stand always with the best 2 percent of Americans .

And they all think you are a worthless goat fucking asshole.....BWAAAAAA!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Denise, you always have that white flag ready.

Anonymous said...

Denise , a yes or no question.

Are you betting that US Farmers Produce less, wheat, corn and soybean in 2019 then was produced in 2018?

anonymous said...

Here you go cramps...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

Went real well.....BWAAAAAA!!!

https://www.sadanduseless.com/donald-meets-england-funny/

anonymous said...

Denise , a yes or no question.

See my answer on the other thread you asked me on.....god you are a dumb fuck...

anonymous said...

And you goat fucker can always

surprise me with more stupidity than I can fathom.....you win again...>BWAAAAAAA!!!!

Anonymous said...

Denise's Answer:

"anonymousJune 4, 2019 at 6:59 AM

It looks like 2019 could be the worst year for U.S. agriculture in modern American history by a very wide margin."


anonymous said...

Hey asshole...that was from the article I posted But thanx for not keeping up or paying attention....2 signs of impending demential....BWAAAAAAAA!!!!

Anonymous said...

You posted it, take ownwership.

Anonymous said...

Putting a bow on it:
Denise , a yes or no question.

Are you betting that US Farmers Produce less, wheat, corn and soybean in 2019 then was produced in 2018?

Denise's Answer:

"anonymousJune 4, 2019 at 6:59 AM

It looks like 2019 could be the worst year for U.S. agriculture in modern American history by a very wide margin."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Looney Tunes

https://youtu.be/ifXgmI96p48

Anonymous said...

President Trump in France tomorrow.

C.H. Truth said...

The Judge Chief Judge of the FISA courts suggested that the Trump administration was garnering warrants against political opponents by producing untruthful and misleading applications....

That's your interpretation of what he said


Well first of all, the Chief Judge of the FISA courts is named Rosemary Collyer, so "she" is not a "he". Obviously if you don't know what sex this person even is, you are not actually paying attention.

btw... responding negatively without actually paying any attention is called cognitive dissonance. As is simply discounting the story as an "interpretation" without even reading anything. Or attacking the writer (who isn't an attorney as you claim) over the story.

Lastly, when the Chief Judge makes a statement, it's not just another "interpretation". That person is uniquely qualified to know when an application is considered "full" and "Truthful" and when it's not.

Myballs said...

Melanie absolutely elegant in UK.

Media ignores it, but she's the most fashionable first lady in history

Anonymous said...

Take a moment and Imagine President Hillary is handed the Task of Representing the USA tomorrow on the 75th year of D'Day.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Charles Lipson is the Peter B. Ritzma Professor of Political Science Emeritus at the University of Chicago, where he founded the Program on International Politics, Economics, and Security.

He's not a lawyer. I saw that he has voted for Republicans and Democrats.

He opposed the Obama memorial building on the campus.

I still don't buy into the cognitive dissonance on the deep state conspiracy theories, and he is a Prime example.

C.H. Truth said...

Cognitive dissonance is when something is discounted and ignored because what it suggests makes you uncomfortable and is not aligned with your overall beliefs.

So, the fact that you refuse to see all of the firings, the I.G. reports, the Chief of Judges for FISA going on record, as well as everything else associated with this... isn't you "not buying it" it's you "refusing to acknowledge it".

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

BREAKING: In a heated meeting in which House Judiciary chair Jerry Nadler called for launching an impeachment inquiry against President Trump, Speaker Nancy Pelosi reportedly told Democrats: “I don’t want to see him impeached, I want to see him in prison."

Pelosi is playing this well.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I refuse to come to the same conclusion on the evidence that you do.

You do understand why people have different opinions. And that neither one is insane. With the exception of KD and rrb.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You believe that I can't have a rational opinion, because I don't like Trump.

I believe the other way in regards to this President.

You were a free trade person, like the Republicans have been since Reagan.

Can you imagine how Reagan would think about this situation today? When our President, belived what Putin said about the Russian intervention into the election, what would Reagan say?

George Will has left the Republican party because of Trump.

If you didn't watch the President interview on BBC television, you don't care about the country anymore. It is all Trump.

Anonymous said...

Bold face Lie
"George Will has left the Republican party because of Trump. "

George Will just published a book on why Conservative Republican is a superior choice to Socialist Democrats .

Internal fights going public is Nancy losing control.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“I don’t want to see him impeached, I want to see him in prison,” Instead of impeachment,

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He said that he is no longer a Republican because of Trump.

Myballs said...

So the house is in chaos while it's speaker just said she wants the president in prison. And Roger thinks she's playing this well??

What a horse's ass.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Will is a true American conservative.

You are not.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump will have a Tweet tirade about drunk Nancy.

She's playing with like a violin.

Commonsense said...

Well Denny since you only linked the Daily Mail's front page, here's the lead story..

A day that determined the fate of generations': Theresa May and Macron pay tribute to D-Day veterans as Trump and Melania fly out to join the 75th anniversary commemorations in Normandy
Leaders of the Allied nations gather in northern France above the five beaches stormed by 156,000 soldiers
Theresa May and Emmanuel Macron helped unveil a memorial to British soldiers overlooking Gold Beach
Prince Charles represented the Queen in France today and joined 300 D-Day veterans at Bayeux Cathedral
Pipe Major Trevor Macey-Lillie, of 19th Regiment Royal Artillery, played a lament this morning on Gold Beach
The tune - Highland Laddie - was played at 6.26am, the exact moment British troops started to come ashore
Commemorations will continue in the town of Arromanches and in Britain's National Memorial Arboretum

Commonsense said...

Trump will have a Tweet tirade about drunk Nancy.
She's playing with like a violin.


Yeah, saying that you want the man you need deal with to get anything done in jail is a brilliant negotiation tactic.

Dipshit.

Commonsense said...

Tweet Storm

@realDonaldTrump

Heading over to Normandy to celebrate some of the bravest that ever lived. We are eternally grateful! #DDay75thAnniversary #DDay75

Commonsense said...

Media ignores it, but she's the most fashionable first lady in history

She is the most glamorous First Lady since Jacqueline Kennedy.

Anonymous said...


Yeah, saying that you want the man you need deal with to get anything done in jail is a brilliant negotiation tactic.

Dipshit.


so let's see...

the alky applauds the barely coherent mini-stroke "trump belongs in prison" spasms of an old hag who's home district is strewn with used needles and slathered in human shit, but recoils at the suggestion that those who facilitated a failed coup against a duly elected sitting president should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

interesting. mental illness takes many forms, and we get to witness this one first hand in all of its delusional glory.

mail order must be relieved to have distanced herself from this madness.



Anonymous said...



Blogger Roger Amick said...

I refuse to come to the same conclusion on the evidence that you do.


well cirrhosis boy, the evidence is conclusive and overwhelming.

so that leaves us to conclude that you are fucking cray cray. seriously mentally ill. delusional on a level not seen since dr. ballsy ford put on her vocal fry, baby talk 'believe all the wymyn' charade.

mail order bailed for a reason alky.

and i just can't wait to see your reaction when trump gets re-elected.

Commonsense said...

President Donald Trump gave a beautiful moving tribute to the brave men who landed in Normandy 75 years ago today.

It was a wonderful ceremony.

Myballs said...

I couldn't disagree more about Pelosi. For the house speaker to say she wants the president in prison, that's a statement of desperation. Her house is in absolute chaos. Half of her party is out of control. Meanwhile, Trump has the economy doing very well as he continues to pile up support from minorities and independents.

Commonsense said...

As if the American voter needed anymore evidence that the Democrats have gone off the rails, this will surely do it.

Pelosi is not a far-left wacko. She's the leader of the party in Congress.

anonymous said...


President Donald Trump gave a beautiful moving tribute to the brave men who landed in Normandy

Yeah the smug draft dodging asshole did a great job in the spotlight....what he lives for...the center of attention!!!!!

anonymous said...

e you only linked the Daily Mail's front page, here's the lead story..

Yep......that's one of the stories.....check the rest or are you too lazy as I suspect!!!!!!

Still looking for your link to any of the glowing reports you claimed, fucking asshole...

anonymous said...

aker just said she wants the president in prison.

How convenient loser that you forget the Lock her up chant you repeated sooooo many times...

anonymous said...

Changing the subject.....maybe we can get these people electricity so they can have Air conditioning in their mud huts as cramps suggested yesterday...

ndia roasts under heat wave with temperatures above 120 degrees
The heat wave is part of a trend of rising temperatures in India. Eleven of the 15 warmest years on record have all occurred since 2004. The frequency of heat waves is also increasing, a government minister said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/its-horrid-india-roasts-under-heat-wave-with-temperatures-above-120-degrees/2019/06/05/bd713dea-877c-11e9-b1a8-716c9f3332ce_story.html?utm_term=.36506cdd335d


By Joanna Slater June 5 at 7:41 AM
NEW DELHI — When the temperature topped 120 degrees (49 Celsius), residents of the northern Indian city of Churu stopped going outside and authorities started hosing down the baking streets with water.

Churu — home to more than 100,000 people — has been the hottest place in India in recent days, part of a summer heat wave suffocating most of the country as temperatures rise above normal even for this sweltering time of year.

According to weather website El Dorado on Wednesday, five of the hottest 15 places on the planet over the previous 24 hours were in India or neighboring Pakistan. In Churu, the mercury hit 118 degrees, down from 122 degrees on Monday. That temperature is just shy of India’s all-time high, recorded in 2016.

Commonsense said...

Yep......that's one of the stories.....check the rest or are you too lazy as I suspect!!!!!!

I've already proved my point. I don't need to waste my time further. However you haven't proven jack shit. Your turn.

Commonsense said...

hanging the subject.....maybe we can get these people electricity so they can have Air conditioning in their mud huts as cramps suggested yesterday...

There's a program in India to do exactly that. Mud huts in India? You've watch too many movies. India has one of the highest standards of living in Asia.

anonymous said...

You've watch too many movies. India has one of the highest standards of living in Asia.


And people still shit in the streets, live with cows and have limited electricity...according to bloomberg....300 million live without power in india......Yep, they sure are living in the lap of luxury .....BWAAAA

As to proving shit....you keep proving you are a consummate asshole who can't find his own ass in the dark!!!! Like you and you .3% growth you never have admitted to be wrong....here is another example.....BWAAAAAAA!!!!

Anonymous said...



And people still shit in the streets, live with cows and have limited electricity...

are you talking about india or san francisco & los angeles?

Commonsense said...

And people still shit in the streets,

They do that in San Francisco. You'd think people would learn to not vote for liberals after they run their cities into the ground.

anonymous said...

Gee cramps...maybe you can find me the actual ranking of India's standard of living....as I once again call bullshit on your pronouncement.......BWAAAAAAA!!!

You will once again duck and cover like the true imbecilic liar you are....!!!!

Commonsense said...

Or maybe you can stop being a lazy shit and google it yourself. I've already moved on.

anonymous said...

you'd think people would learn to not vote for liberals after they run their cities into the ground.

Great duck again asshole....no body was discussing SF......In india....people shit and the wandering livestock eat it!!!! Yeah, you really are dumber than a box of rocks.....

anonymous said...

've already moved on.


You moved on because you lied and cannot back up what you said....fucking loser!!!! Another loss for stupidity!!!!

anonymous said...

For the wantonly stupid and lazy cramps....who can't provide a single glowing report about trump.....and you wonder why I call you cramps and dumber than a box of rocks as he moves on living in his own stupor.....LOLOLOLOLOL

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/trump-uk-visit-buckingham-palace-protests-corbyn-cable-a8940656.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/23/the-guardian-view-on-donald-trumps-uk-visit-a-mistake

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8917796/donald-trump-visit-uk-meet-queen/

C.H. Truth said...

I refuse to come to the same conclusion on the evidence that you do.


The word "refuse" is telling Roger.

And it's not that you "refuse" to come to the same conclusion, it's that you "refuse" to acknowledge the same facts.


- You refuse to acknowledge that over twenty people in the FBI had been disciplined for their behavior regarding the investigation.
- You refuse to acknowledge that many of them were fired for their actions.
- You refuse to acknowledge that the IG report shows that FBI officials leaked investigation materials and that at least one took bribes from the media in exchange.


Most recently you are refusing to acknowledge what the Chief Judge from the Secret court has determined. Rather you would prefer to discount what "she" stated by suggesting the person reporting it is somehow biased.


It's literally impossible to have acknowledge all the factual transparent evidence of corrupt behavior, and still say that there is no corrupt behavior.

It's not a matter of opinion. Either you accept that these things happened (the discipline, firing, IG reports, FISA judge statements) or you do what you do.. and act like it's not really a tangible matter and that even these sorts of "facts" are open to some interpretation...

Which of course you don't explain. Not sure if you don't actually believe that the FBI discipline "happened" or you somehow feel that it was "unjustified" or that you don't accept that the IG actually wrote a report, or if you simply believe you know better than the IG, or if you don't accept that the Head Judge of FISA said something, or if it is that you don't believe her (and believe she is wrong).

Not sure "exactly" what you are arguing...

Other than you appear to be putting your hands over your ears and going "lalalalalalala" and refusing to deal with the reality.

Anonymous said...

The Fight was to defeat Socialism in WW2.

As it is today at home .

Anonymous said...

AG Robert Barr is talking with Steele.