Harris has claimed (in the past) to be the descendant of slaves, with the implication being the descendant of American slaves. We know she is at least as much Asian (Indians are considered Asian) as she is black (Jamaicans are made up from many races). There doesn't appear to be any ancestry that would back up the claim that she is a descendant of slaves, and certainly not the descendant of American slaves.
I am curious as to why it is considered "racist" to point out that Harris is not really the descendant of American slaves, but rather might actually be the descendant of slave owners. I am also curious as to why nobody on the left seems to have an issue with Harris possibly misrepresenting her heritage in such a way?
They say that the truth will set you free? But in the case of 2019 liberalism, the truth apparently matters much less than pushing identity politics. As Cory Booker suggested, Kamala Harris doesn't have to "prove shit". She just needs to claim it and the left will embrace it and attack anyone who questions it.
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Earlier today I posted a first draft of a possible letter to the editor. Here is the final product:
A Choice Election
The 2020 election will be not about Trump or political parties or policy differences. It will be a national choice between cruelty or kindness; supporting family separation or supporting family unity; hating the immigrant or welcoming the immigrant; loving guns more than innocent children being slaughtered in schools; supporting liars or truth tellers; greed or generosity; moral depravity or moral decency; supporting dictators or supporting democracies; climate change denial or climate change science; racism or inclusion; supporting war mongering or supporting peace through diplomacy; having an “acting” Administration or having a responsible Administration; ignoring a sexual assaulter or indicting a sexual assaulter; taxation favoring the 1% or favoring the rest of us; suppressing women’s rights or supporting women’s rights; homophobia or acceptance of the LGBTQ community as a normal segment of humanity; political party loyalty or constitutional loyalty; supporting a State run press (Fox News) or supporting a free press; supporting health care for the privileged or health care for all; and lastly, dragging humanity back to our dark past or pushing humanity forward to a better future for all mankind.
Trump, on a daily and ongoing basis, promotes and supports all of the first choices. His supporters must therefore share support for his agenda. The rest of us support the second choices. Who will win? Will evil continue or will good defeat evil in 2020?
What say you?
Jim Sathe
Idaho Falls
Birtherism reborn.
"most all accounts" found on links on The Drudge Report or The Junior's deleted tweet.
@dcexaminer
Thomas Homan, ICE exec under @BarackObama:
“I’ve been to that facility, where they talk about cages. That facility was built under President Obama under (Homeland Security) Secretary Jeh Johnson."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/baracks-ice-chief-cages-were-obamas-idea
@tedcruz
To federal law enforcement: investigate & bring legal action against a Mayor who has, for political reasons, ordered his police officers to let citizens be attacked by domestic terrorists. https://tinyurl.com/y2udrv5d
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domestic democrat terrorists and their enablers must be held accountable
@CarmineZozzora
AMERICA IS UNDER SIEGE!
Retweeted Hillary Clinton
12 nondescript Russians influenced the election while the globalist cabal’s criminal media complex of fake news propagandists gang-slandering @realDonaldTrump as a white supremacist neo-Nazi fascist dictator Hitler villain KGB spy Putin puppet in the KKK was just news.
The resentment is most pronounce in the African-American community and nobody can call them racist.
I'm just as happy to keep out of that food fight.
@charliekirk11
Did you know:
Joe Biden called Antifa a”courageous group of Americans”
Today Antifa assaulted a journalist and sent him to the hospital
Will Joe Biden retract his praise for this domestic terrorist organization?
A Choice Election
This is an instrument of surrender.
Democratic candidate Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) has won the support of Congressional Black Caucus Reps. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) and Frederica Wilson (D-Fla.) in her 2020 presidential bid, AP reported Sunday.
Why it matters: The latest endorsements take her backing of CBC members to 6, per AP,
If Osama bin Laden was still alive, Trump would invite him to brunch.
@rickygervais
It's interesting that the people who believe that throwing a milkshake in someone's face shouldn't be considered assault are often the same people who believe that 'saying things' should be.
@marwilliamson
Replying to @Gregoriancant
As much fun as I've had laughing at all the understandable hilarious tweets about me today, the mic issue is not funny and yes it did happen. I tried a couple of times to jump in and my mic was not on. Particularly wanted in on the subject of race.
Michael Tracey
@mtracey
Michael Tracey Retweeted Marianne Williamson
So according to at least two of the candidates onstage, the debate format was surreptitiously manipulated by NBC -- meaning it was never a "debate" in the first place, but a carefully choreographed entertainment show
The isolated North Korean regime is believed to have as many 120,000 political prisoners in its harsh labor camps.
We had a great meeting!
@johncardillo
I’ve been suspended once on Twitter.
It was for warning people to defend themselves against domestic terror group Antifa.
Let that sink in. A former law enforcement guy was suspended for giving people advice on how not to be victims of left wing terrorists.
@Rambobiggs
This man, Adam Kelly was attacked in Portland by ANTIFA the domestic terrorist organization
https://twitter.com/Rambobiggs/status/1145443844785352706
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Won't see this on the FAKE NEWS propaganda shows
Good Morning Roger...
You still wanting 2020 to be about your "personal dislike of the President" rather than about policies, results, economy, and things that matter to people...
Ranting and raving about hypothetical things you believe the President would do, while actually ignoring everything that "has" been done to make our Country better?
Unemployment under 4% - Positive GDP growth - fastest wage growth in years.
You want people to ignore all of that, and engage in some sort of moral exercise of what they stand for, based entirely on your one sided opinion of the President?
Sounds typical...
Republicans are opening up their checkbooks to keep Jewish self-help author Marianne Williamson in the race for the Democratic nomination for president.
It’s not they are falling in line with her idea to “harness love” to defeat US President Donald Trump. It’s that they want to keep her in future Democratic debates. For her entertainment value.
Harris has claimed (in the past) to be the descendant of slaves, with the implication being the descendant of American slaves
The implication lil Scottt is that you are moronic.....now you differentiate the location of where a slave was owned.....a slave is a slave all were Hijacked from the same continent by white assholes like you......sorry.... Yes pauline.....that story is well reported and show what stupid people you and R's can be!!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!
Denny -
The point is still the same. There is no evidence that she is the descendant of slaves. In fact, the evidence more strongly suggests that one of her great grandparents probably owned slaves.
Sure, go back to the middle ages or before and there were many races of people who were once enslaved. Not just Africans, but Middle Eastern, Asians, etc. Likely a good portion of the world's population had some ancestor who once wore chains.
Personally as someone of mostly Scandinavian background, I would be hard pressed to suggest any of my ancestors were slaves. In fact, they were more likely to have raped and pillaged. Doesn't make me "either" a rapist or a pillager.
There is no evidence that she is the descendant of slaves. In fact, the evidence more strongly suggests that one of her great grandparents probably owned slaves.
BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Never let your bias get in the way of anything Lil Scotty.....The fact she is black alone gives a high probability she is a descendent of slaves in spite of your stupid bigoted spin.....Like obama was born in kenya....you are now supporting another myth from the asshole part you support without question!!! The bullshit everyone was inslaved is more than just stupid....it reflects the wasting of what little is left of your mind......Got Wx????? BWAAAAAAA!!!!!
My roots go back, within my lifetime, to my paternal grandmother Miss Chrishy (née Christiana Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brown’s Town) and to my maternal grandmother Miss Iris (née Iris Finegan, farmer and educator, from Aenon Town and Inverness, ancestry unknown to me). The Harris name comes from my paternal grandfather Joseph Alexander Harris, land-owner and agricultural ‘produce’ exporter (mostly pimento or all-spice), who died in 1939 one year after I was born and is buried in the church yard of the magnificent Anglican Church which Hamilton Brown built in Brown’s Town (and where, as a child, I learned the catechism, was baptized and confirmed, and served as an acolyte).
Both of my grandmothers had the strongest influence on my early upbringing(“not to exclude, of course, the influence of my dear mother”Miss Beryl” and loving father “Maas Oscar”).
Miss Chrishy was the disciplinarian, reserved and stern in look, firm with ‘the strap’, but capable of the most endearing and genuine acts of love, affection, and care.
Reflections of a Jamaican Father By Donald J. Harris
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! You have proved nothing but an antidotal story......asshole....Some how, some black individual arrived in Jamaica by a slave boat.....the history lesson above suddenly appears that some african black person magically started a plantation.....yeah....that and your .6% growth is all over the net......BWAAAA!!!!!
Suggest you review the history of Jamaica.....all blacks in Jamaica originated from the slave trade.....any other interpretation now is interesting and boring......sorry Lil Scotty and Pea brain....the slave trade in Jamaica predates the colony by years!!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_of_Jamaica
Sorry Denny -
Two problems... we don't specifically know what "race" her father was, and it's impossible to suggest that there have been no black people who have moved to Jamaica since 1830 and started new families.
Besides, my issue isn't so much her claim that she came from "slavery" from 200 years ago - but rather a lack of acknowledgement that her family might have been slave owners just a few decades ago.
A number of observers, myself included, have written pieces in recent years arguing that the Republican Party is no longer simply trying to compete with and defeat the Democratic Party on a level playing field. Today, rather than simply playing the game, the Republicans are simultaneously trying to rig the game’s rules so that they never lose.
The aggressive gerrymandering, which the Supreme Court just declared to be a matter beyond its purview; the voter suppression schemes; the dubious proposals that haven’t gone anywhere — yet — like trying to award presidential electoral votes by congressional district rather than by state, a scheme that Republicans in five states considered after the 2012 election and that is still discussed: These are not ideas aimed at invigorating democracy. They are hatched and executed for the express purpose of essentially fixing elections.
We have been brought up to believe that American political parties are the same — that they are similar creatures with similar traits and similar ways of behaving. Political science spent decades teaching us this. The idea that one party has become so radically different from the other, despite mountains of evidence, is a tough sell.
It’s a hard sell to make for one very simple reason: It doesn’t have a name, this thing the Republicans are trying to do. It’s not true democracy that they want. But it’s also a bit much to call them outright authoritarians. And there’s nothing in between.
Or is there?
A couple of weekends ago, I tripped across a 2010 book called “Competitive Authoritarianism: Hybrid Regimes After the Cold War,” by Steven Levitsky and Lucan A. Way. If you pay close attention to such things, you will recognize Mr. Levitsky’s name — he was a co-author, with Daniel Ziblatt, of last year’s book “How Democracies Die,” which sparked much discussion. “Competitive Authoritarianism” deserves to do the same.
What defines competitive authoritarian states? They are “civilian regimes in which formal democratic institutions exist and are widely viewed as the primary means of gaining power, but in which incumbents’ abuse of the state places them at a significant advantage vis-à-vis their opponents.” Sound like anyone you know?
I discovered the book somewhat by accident, ordered it and read it immediately. As the subtitle states, the authors, working in a field that Mr. Levitsky likes to call “comparative regime studies,” were looking at regimes in the developing world and the former Eastern Bloc in the years after Communism’s collapse — years, that is, when a number of countries were moving, however fitfully, toward democratization.
There are sections on Mozambique, Kenya and Cameroon; on Taiwan, Malaysia and Cambodia; and on Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. In the late 2000s, when the authors were assembling their research, these were the kinds of countries they had in mind when they conjured up the phrase “competitive authoritarianism.”
But today, incredibly, the phrase has begun to bring to mind the United States of America. I literally gasped as I read certain passages, notably the part about the important role of a strong party in winning elections and in controlling legislatures. “Legislative control is critical in competitive authoritarian regimes,” the authors write. They list four reasons. You can bet Mitch McConnell knows every one of them, and probably a couple more.
Now, I should say that I don’t think we’re there yet. Neither does Mr. Levitsky. “For all of its unfairness and growing dysfunction, American democracy has not slid into competitive authoritarianism,” he told me. “The playing field between Democrats and Republicans remains reasonably level.”
So we’re not there right now. But we may well be on the way, and it’s abundantly clear who wants to take us there.
For one, there’s President Trump. Think of his efforts to do things like politicize the institutions of the executive branch, to try to turn the Department of Justice into his personal law firm. Think of his threat in 2016 that he would honor the results of the election “if I win,” and his recent musings about staying beyond two terms. Think of his commerce secretary’s attempt to add a citizenship question to the census, which would benefit the Republicans electorally. These are all manifestations of competitive authoritarianism.
Second — and maybe even more so — there’s the Republican Party. The gerrymandering enabled them to maintain their House majority during the Obama years even as Democratic House candidates were winning more votes. But there’s much more. “Recent Republican behavior — from the 2016 stolen Supreme Court seat to the legislative shenanigans that followed gubernatorial defeats in North Carolina and Wisconsin to voter suppression efforts across numerous states — suggests a party whose commitment to democratic politics has weakened,” Mr. Levitsky said. “The fact that the Republican Party has grown increasingly authoritarian poses a greater threat to American democracy than Donald Trump.”
Sorry Lil Scotty...
Two problems... we don't specifically know what "race" her father was,
The only problem is you and the seed planted by some racist that she is not black enough to be american......Go take you bias and explain it to your mail order bride......maybe she gives a shit about your bigotry and lack of a moral compass.....BWAAAAAA!!!!
@seanmdav
The most dangerous white supremacist group in the country right now is Antifa.
On the other side was the black bloc, a collection of black-clad punks, often with bandanas ready to serve as masks, who mostly engaged in drug use and drum circles. The latter group is directly related to the movement we now know as Antifa.
One thing that both of these groups had—and continue to have—in common is that they are mostly young white people. This is not surprising; poll after poll shows us that the vast majority of far-left progressives are white. The intellectuals at Occupy understood and tried to address this, giving special treatment to the speech and ideas of their small cadre of non-white participants. The Black Bloc and Antifa take a different approach; they just cover their faces.
But when members of Antifa are arrested, the masks come off. And, as recent mugshots of Portland Antifa members show, these people are about as diverse as the Washington Generals.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/01/antifa-is-mostly-privileged-white-dudes/
@RyanAFournier
I find it funny that Kamala Harris constantly blames white people but is married to a rich white guy.
Denny -
Not even sure what you mean by not being black enough to be American? She's American because she was born in Oakland. Her skin color has nothing to do with it.
The fact remains that Kamala Harris is at least 50% Asian and 50% whatever her dad happens to be. Jamaica is pretty much a hodgepodge of races, regardless of your claim that it's 100% descendant of slaves.
And with all due respect Denny, my wife has lived in this country for 40 years, grew up in Bloomington Minnesota, and I first met her back in the 90's when she was a teenager. The fact that you assume an Asian girl did not grow up in America is pretty racist.
(and no, never, not once, have I ever called Roger's ex-wife Lydia anything like that or given him a any specific grief regarding what happened between them)
https://www.facebook.com/charlie.abourezk
You idiot it's from NYT
.https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/01/opinion/republicans-trump-democracy.html?fbclid=IwAR08Th_IGqR5IYm7clRcnDRBkdG_5yfm7y9nhhQlF35CgBr6NWtKQ3sMwdo
caliphate4vr said...
You idiot it's from NYT
and the asshat who wrote it - tomasky - is an MSDNC/daily beast drama queen.
to him the sky is always falling and we're never more than one trump tweet away from armageddon.
and the alky is so fucking stupid he can't even keep track of who he's stealing content from.
Yep, Alky is a hot gutter drunk mess
"Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) hammered the Republicans' tax-code overhaul Monday evening as a culture-shaking economic "armageddon" that would haunt the working class for years to come. "
Lol, so wrong.
If that's haunting the middle class then let it be Halloween every day.
CS , exactly.
Speaker in Name Only Polosi promised IF she was made speaker she would work tirelessly to pass a new middle income tax cut.
So far she is a no show.
Blogger anonymous said...
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! You have proved nothing but an antidotal story......
Now why would her own father lie about her ancestry Denny?
Now why would her own father lie about her ancestry Denny?
Just like you would if you found a black slave in your background.....BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! The fact remains she is a descendant of the slave trade.....which when you come right down to it is not an issue to anyone but assholes like you and Lil Scotty, the bigot.....who brought the issue up because some right wing jerk off brought it up!!!! Not an original thought from either of you!!!!!! Jerk!!!
Not even sure what you mean by not being black enough to be American?
BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!! That's what the source of your thread said.....fucking idiot you are Lil Scotty.....bigotry runs deep in your family!!!!!!!
BTW Lil Scotty.....the tweet was from Ali Alexander who coined that phrase..........if you can't understand what she said, it was Kamala was not an american slave descendent and therefore not as black as she was......Dayum you are thick and dumb at times!! You really should try and keep current with the current R bigots and friends......LOLOLOLOL
Just like you would if you found a black slave in your background..
This makes absolutely no sense.
The fact remains she is a descendant of the slave trade....
Since her ancestor was a slave owner I guess that's technically true.
Truth of the matter is that there have been free blacks on Jamaica ever since the colony was establish as well as slaves.
Truth of the matter is that there have been free blacks on Jamaica ever
Wrong mutton breath.....you made that up!!!!!
http://www.jamaicanfamilysearch.com/Samples2/slavery.htm
Try again asshole......dumb fuck!!!!
Funny thing cramps, once you do a little research on the subject you will discover that Britain abolished slavery in Jamaica in 1823....IOW's someones alleged antidotal story is as full of shit as you are......BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
And with all due respect Denny, my wife has lived in this country for 40 years,
So fucking what, Lil Scotty.....think she'd get in now?????? And you sure seem to have pedophile tendencies robbing the cradle at such a young age....Maybe you should learn to stop digging.....BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
(and no, never, not once, have I ever called Roger's ex-wife Lydia anything like that or given him a any specific grief regarding what happened between them) BTW.....where someone grows up, like all the Daca beaners has no bearing of my opinion of your mail order bride.....
And while others did, your silence spoke volumes of your racist tendencies.......stop digging Lil Scotty......asshole....
Britain abolished slavery in Jamaica in 1823....
It was 1834 but who's counting.
IOW's someones alleged antidotal story is as full of shit
Why? Jamaica has been colonized since the mid 17th century. Harris mention that his ancestor Hamilton Brown was on record as owning a plantation and owning slaves.
Land and slave deeds were recorded at the colony state house. It's quite possible those records survived.
And you sure seem to have pedophile tendencies robbing the cradle at such a young age
I met her when she worked for me... I didn't start dating her till she was in her 30's. That being said, at 19, she was basically the same age as Monica Lewinsky, and a hell of a lot better looking than Lewinsky. If I had been having relations with her when she was modeling, working with a personal trainer to keep toned, I doubt anyone would have blamed me.
I promise you that either way, she's way way better looking than that blow up doll you have relationships with in your mother's basement.
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