Sunday, July 21, 2019

To liberals - facts don't really matter

In Trump’s First Two Years, Border Deaths Declined
Former Vice President Joe Biden also tweeted about the tragic photo: “This image is gut-wrenching. The cruelty we’re seeing at our border is unconscionable. History will judge how we respond to the Trump Administration’s treatment of immigrant families & children — we can’t be silent. This isn’t who we are. This is not America.”
But the reality is that deaths at the U.S.-Mexico border decreased after Donald Trump became president, according to data from the United States Border Patrol. During the 2017 and 2018 fiscal years they averaged 291 per year, down from 372 during the Obama/Biden administration and 382 under Bush.

So first sleepy Joe suggested that there was no election interference on his watch (obviously forgetting the 2016 Russian stuff that spurned off five investigations, including a Special Counsel). Now he is suggesting that all of this death and stuff at the border is unconscionable.

The problem is that it was actually worse under his and Obama's watch. In fact it was 20% worse during his Administration than it has been under Trump. Although you could likely search google for 10 years and not find a single MSM story about those deaths.

Bottom line is that Trump is succeeding at the border where Obama and Biden failed. Illegal border crossings have been down, more illegals have been sent back, and less people are dying in their quest to come live in a concentration camp.

While all of this should be good news, the problem is that these facts get in the way of the narrative that Democrats and their buddies in the MSM would like to push. But as we should all understand by now. Facts simply don't matter to liberals.

15 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This was not written me, and the author is unknown but it might as well have been written by me...

“I'm a progressive, but that doesn't mean what a lot of you apparently think it does.

Let's break it down, shall we? Because quite frankly, I'm getting a little tired of being told what I believe and what I stand for. Spoiler alert: Not every progressive is the same, not every progressive is a Democrat, not every progressive is a liberal! The majority of progressives I know think along roughly these same lines:

1. I believe a country should take care of its weakest members. A country cannot call itself civilized when its children, disabled, sick, and elderly are neglected. Period.

2. I believe healthcare is a right, not a privilege. Somehow that's interpreted as "I believe Obamacare is the end-all, be-all." This is not the case. I'm fully aware that the ACA has problems, that a national healthcare system would require everyone to chip in, and that it's impossible to create one that is devoid of flaws, but I have yet to hear an argument against it that makes "let people die because they can't afford healthcare" a better alternative. I believe healthcare should be far cheaper than it is, and that everyone should have access to it. And no, I'm not opposed to paying higher taxes in the name of making that happen.

3. I believe education should be affordable and accessible to everyone. It doesn't necessarily have to be free (though it works in other countries so I'm mystified as to why it can't work in the US), but at the end of the day, there is no excuse for students graduating college saddled with five- or six-figure debt.

4. I don't believe your money should be taken from you and given to people who don't want to work. I have literally never encountered anyone who believes this. Ever. I just have a massive moral problem with a society where a handful of people can possess the majority of the wealth while there are people literally starving to death, freezing to death, or dying because they can't afford to go to the doctor. Fair wages, lower housing costs, universal healthcare, affordable education, and the wealthy actually paying their share would go a long way toward alleviating this. Somehow, extreme right wing conservatives believe that makes me a communist.

5. I don't throw around "I'm willing to pay higher taxes" lightly. If I'm suggesting something that involves paying more, well, it's because I'm fine with paying my share as long as it's actually going to something besides lining corporate pockets or bombing other countries while Americans die without healthcare.

6. I believe companies should be required to pay their employees a decent, livable wage. Somehow this is always interpreted as me wanting burger flippers to be able to afford a penthouse apartment and a Mercedes. What it actually means is that no one should have to work three full-time jobs just to keep their head above water. Restaurant servers should not have to rely on tips, multibillion-dollar companies should not have employees on food stamps, workers shouldn't have to work themselves into the ground just to barely make ends meet, and minimum wage should be enough for someone to work 40 hours and live.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

7. I am not anti-Christian. I have no desire to stop Christians from being Christians, to close churches, to ban the Bible, to forbid prayer in school, etc. (BTW, prayer in school is NOT illegal; *compulsory* prayer in school is - and should be - illegal). All I ask is that Christians recognize *my* right to live according to *my* beliefs. I get pissed off that a politician is trying to legislate Scripture into law. I'm not "offended by Christianity" -- I'm offended that you're trying to force me to live by your religion's rules. You know how you get really upset at the thought of Muslims imposing Sharia law on you? That's how I feel about Christians trying to impose biblical law on me. Be a Christian. Do your thing. Just don't force it on me or mine.

8. I don't believe LGBT people should have more rights than you. I just believe they should have the *same* rights as you.

9. I don't believe illegal immigrants should come to America and have the world at their feet, especially since THIS ISN'T WHAT THEY DO (spoiler: undocumented immigrants are ineligible for all those programs they're supposed to be abusing, and if they're "stealing" your job it's because your employer is hiring illegally). I'm not opposed to deporting people who are here illegally, but I believe there are far more humane ways to handle undocumented immigration than our current practices (i.e., detaining children, splitting up families, ending DACA, etc).

10. I don't believe the government should regulate everything, but since greed is such a driving force in our country, we NEED regulations to prevent cutting corners, environmental destruction, tainted food/water, unsafe materials in consumable goods or medical equipment, etc. It's not that I want the government's hands in everything -- I just don't trust people trying to make money to ensure that their products/practices/etc. are actually SAFE. Is the government devoid of shadiness? Of course not. But with those regulations in place, consumers have recourse if they're harmed and companies are liable for medical bills, environmental cleanup, etc. Just kind of seems like common sense when the alternative to government regulation is letting companies bring their bottom line into the equation.

I believe that our current administration is fascist. Not because I dislike them or because I can’t get over an election, but because I've spent too many years reading and learning about the Third Reich to miss the similarities. Not because any administration I dislike must be Nazis, but because things are actually mirroring authoritarian and fascist regimes of the past.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

12. I believe the systemic racism and misogyny in our society is much worse than many people think, and desperately needs to be addressed. Which means those with privilege -- white, straight, male, economic, etc. -- need to start listening, even if you don't like what you're hearing, so we can start dismantling everything that's causing people to be marginalized.

13. I am not interested in coming after your guns, nor is anyone serving in government. What I am interested in is sensible policies, including background checks, that just MIGHT save one person’s, perhaps a toddler’s, life by the hand of someone who should not have a gun. (Got another opinion? Put it on your page, not mine).

14. I believe in so-called political correctness. I prefer to think it’s social politeness. If I call you Chuck and you say you prefer to be called Charles I’ll call you Charles. It’s the polite thing to do. Not because everyone is a delicate snowflake, but because as Maya Angelou put it, when we know better, we do better. When someone tells you that a term or phrase is more accurate/less hurtful than the one you're using, you now know better. So why not do better? How does it hurt you to NOT hurt another person?

15. I believe in funding sustainable energy, including offering education to people currently working in coal or oil so they can change jobs. There are too many sustainable options available for us to continue with coal and oil. Sorry, billionaires. Maybe try investing in something else.

16. I believe that women should not be treated as a separate class of human. They should be paid the same as men who do the same work, should have the same rights as men and should be free from abuse. Why on Earth shouldn’t they be?

I think that about covers it. Bottom line is that I'm a progressive because I think we should take care of each other. That doesn't mean you should work 80 hours a week so your lazy neighbor can get all your money. It just means I don't believe there is any scenario in which preventable suffering is an acceptable outcome as long as money is saved.”

“Copy & paste if you want. I did. Author unknown.”

Trumpism Survivor said...

Polls consistently show Trump gets stronger marks for his handling of the economy than for his overall job performance. A recent Economist/YouGov survey showed 51 percent of registered voters approved of Trump's handling of the economy, with 46 percent approving of his job performance. And a CNN survey found 45 percent approved of Trump's job performance, compared with 52 percent who liked what he's doing with the economy.



The moral market-watchers who exist within that divide, a new analysis shows, represent a potent pool of swing voters Trump must fight to win over before November 2020.

The analysis of six polls was conducted by Navigator Research, a joint product of the Democratic polling firms Global Strategy Group and GBAO. Those polls found a group of about 6 percent of voters who are conflicted about Trump's performance in office.

In 2016, about 39 percent of the voters in that group favored Hillary Clinton, 32 percent voted for Trump and 29 percent backed a different candidate.



Worryingly for Republicans, and Trump himself, those voters broke for Democratic congressional candidates by 20 percentage points in the 2018 midterm elections.

The voters are a "suburban, affluent type of person who's probably doing OK but is very troubled by the president's behavior and everything they see from him all the time," said Nick Gourevitch, a pollster at Global Strategy Group who helped conduct the analysis. "There are people out there who feel good about the economy but really don't like the president. Are those people really going to vote to reelect the guy?"

Anonymous said...

Yes

Who is your pick to run against him?

Anonymous said...




well drunkard, the author of your drivel is supposedly some twat named Lori Gallagher Witt.

anyway... a conservative with an extraordinary amount of patience took the time to address each of her points, and did a fairly good job of cleaning her clock.

behold:

http://towerofreason.blogspot.com/2018/01/an-open-letter-im-conservative.html


one of his better points?

if you believe healthcare is a right, not a privilege, then you've just admitted that you're pro-slavery. an odd take coming from the party of paying reparations to descendents of slaves.


that's quite the screed, alky. complete and utter bullshit as it is. and i'm not surprised you fell for it since it collapses quite easily under the scrutiny of logic and reason.



Commonsense said...

Yes
Who is your pick to run against him?


Marianne Williamson and Beto O'Rourke!!!! You go girlfriend!!!!

FDR Democrat said...

A long time ago, my father told me that there were only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and Suckers.

Still true. The former hold on to their power by using the latter, inflaming them with fears du jour and filling them with false hopes.

Anonymous said...

Idiot Socialist Coward FOR.

He was over turned more by the US Supreme Court then any other President.

Anonymous said...

Dummy Denny fake concern for Mexico as they may have a food production shortage.

As in all things around Denny it concerned food.

Anonymous said...

RRB we have been asked to take into full account Rogers delicate situation.
As his FB account reflects, his wife kicked him out, his income was cut in half by her court award, he is 4 days out from a forced eviction and he is suicidal.

So, given his FB he is very Brok and broken and needs compassion .

CHT did make this point, why has .CA hammock Socialism failed HB?

Commonsense said...

As long as there's no run on chocolate syrup for the fountain then Denny will be OK.

Commonsense said...


A long time ago, my father told me that there were only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and Suckers


And yet strangely everybody's standard of living increased under Republican rule.

Begs the question as who the real suckers are. Pretty much everybody who pulled the lever by a "D".

Anonymous said...

Funny week Failed investigation headed by Loser Mueller is center stage and the 24 Socialist Dwarfs have their , whatever.

Anonymous said...




RRB we have been asked to take into full account Rogers delicate situation.


fuck him.

the dumb fuck's current situation is completely self-inflicted. this is exactly what stage IV TDS is supposed to look like when one succumbs to it.

he was given a second lease on life after drinking his original liver to death. and now i'm supposed to feel sorry for his ass because he let trump drive him cray cray???

let him pitch a tent on skid row with the rest of the fucking losers.

i hear the typhus in LA is in full bloom this time of year.