Thursday, August 29, 2019

Not a recession


2019 GNP 

  • 2019 Q1 - 3.1
  • 2019 Q2 - 2.0  
  • 2019 Q3 - 2.3 (estimated GDPNow) 

Even a fairly negative consensus by leading economist called the "blue chip assessment" now projects that the third quarter of 2019 will be at least two percent (original estimates had been lower). While these are not economic boom numbers, what should be obvious to everyone is that consistent growth in the two to three percent is a long ways off from a recession.

Generally speaking our economy just doesn't drop several percentage points in GDP growth for no reason. A cyclical recession would generally involve a fairly consistent slowdown for multiple quarters, leading to at least two quarters in a row of negative growth. Other recessions  are the result of something extremely tangible that has an overwhelming affect on the economy (such as the Housing market collapse of 2008). Generally these involve some sort of bubble burst of some economic condition that was keeping thing afloat.

So are we in any real immediate danger? Where are the economic bubbles right now? Real estate prices are going up, but there is no indication that Americans are spending (and relying on) their equities as they did in the mid 2000s. We are not running out of some stimulus package that will leave the economy with a hole to fill. The so called indicators with things like "inverted bond yields" are not tangible areas that are easily understood to slow growth. More to the point, just because every recession was preceded by a particular indicator, doesn't mean that that same indicator preceded a recession every time. All thumbs may be fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs.

What we know for sure is that we are not in a recession right now, and there is little actual reason to believe that things are slowing down at all, much less slowing down anywhere near fast enough to see any recession over the next few quarters.

15 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Republicans Grow Anxious About Trump Economy
August 29, 2019 at 6:32 am EDT

Politico: “Republicans have sat patiently with President Donald Trump on his tariff roller coaster ride with China. Now they’re starting to feel queasy. Trump argues his escalating trade war will force China to the table for a deal. But his ever-rising tariffs — and his market-rattling tweets — are increasingly alarming the GOP.

“Particularly as the global economy cools, key Republicans say new levies on almost all Chinese goods threaten to step on the president’s good news story: A growing economy, rising wages and low unemployment. And that could have outsize effects on Republicans’ tough task of defending the Senate and the White House in 2020.”

C.H. Truth said...

Well thank you James...

Nothing like disputing facts with a cut and paste from some anonymous source citing generic people who they do not name.

Anonymous said...




And that could have outsize effects on Republicans’ tough task of defending the Senate and the White House in 2020.”

so with the momentum of a slowing economy offering a massive life to the democrats prospect retaking the senate and the white house, MSDNC's crazy larry o'donnell felt the need to flat out lie about trump and russia, russia, russia.

yeah, i think you're really onto something there pederast.

Anonymous said...

Speaker in Name Only Polosi is stalling action on trade bills with Canada and Mexico. She is punishing the American worker.

Anonymous said...

Politico
"THE BATTLE OVER THE USMCA: Another will-she-or-won’t-she for Pelosi. How does the speaker remain in constant battle with the president and pass the president’s trade deal with Canada and Mexico, handing a big political victory to Trump?"

anonymous said...

nothing like disputing facts with a cut and paste

funny lil scotty.....your fact is an estimate and opinion!!!!! BWAAAAAAAA

anonymous said...

An alternate opinion and estimate for 3rd quarter....

Third Quarter 2019 Survey of Professional Forecasters ...
philadelphiafed.org/.../survey-of-professional-forecasters/2019/survq319
The panel predicts real GDP will grow at an annual rate of 1.8 percent this quarter, 2.0 percent next quarter, and 1.9 percent in the first quarter of 2020, marking downward revisions from the previous survey. On an annual-average over annual-average basis, the forecasters expect real GDP to grow 2.3 percent in 2019 and 1.9 percent in 2020.

cowardly king obama said...

the forecasters expect real GDP to grow 2.3 percent in 2019 and 1.9 percent in 2020.

I could have sworn someone was talking about an impending recession just last week ??? Thanks for knocking that down.

Anonymous said...

They ended the recession talk, moved on to Trumps a Racist .

Anonymous said...

CHT , best explain to the low IQ Three Socialist Stooges of CHT what GDP and Recession have to do with each other .

anonymous said...

I Could have trump promised a real gdp rate of 3% Gee.....sure looks like a miss to me!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

ONLY 1.9 IN 2020. WHERE OH WHERE DID THE PROMISED 3% GO?

cowardly king obama said...

anonymous said...
I Could have trump promised a real gdp rate of 3% Gee.....sure looks like a miss to me!!!
August 29, 2019 at 4:40 PM

James said...
ONLY 1.9 IN 2020. WHERE OH WHERE DID THE PROMISED 3% GO?


Guess all the media and the democrat efforts have had a little impact.

Imagine if they just tried to help Americans !!!

NEED A REPUBLICAN HOUSE TO OVERCOME THE "RESISTANCE"

Anonymous said...

Funny how the Three Socialist Stooges of CHT loved Obama's sub par GDP , yet hate Trumps which is out performing the Lost Years.

Anonymous said...

Jane's history of GDP is funny.
"ONLY 1.9 IN 2020"

Nope you dope.