So does anyone recall a few years ago when the Target Corporation got into hot water because of a "security breach" which "allowed hackers" to gain the private banking and credit information of millions of customers.
All in all Target was forced to make retribution to anyone who might have been affected, had to reimburse for any and all fraudulent spending as a result, and ended up settling a lawsuit with the Government where they made payments in excess of 18 million dollars to all American states that were affected.
Funny thing that nobody demanded the Federal Government spend three years, millions of dollars, and appoint a special counsel to get to the bottom of who actually breached Target's cyber security system. Nope. We didn't seem to care too much about who hacked them, because everyone understands that hackers work non-stop to hack our financial institutions, and it's up to those financial institutes to safeguard our information.
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Prior to the 2016 elections, our Federal Government sent all of the prominent political players a warning that hacking of their political information had become a real concern, and that they needed to take precaution. By all accounts, hackers attempted (but failed) to get into pretty much any and all relative websites, email servers, and other databases.
The lone exception was the DNC servers. Hackers got through, had access to and copied all of the DNC email and other data, and forwarded it onto the Wikileaks website, where it was published in all it's glory for all to see.
Now let's be clear. This wasn't classified information. The DNC is a private entity and not part of our government. There was not personal financial information that put millions of Americans in financial jeopardy. This was little more than embarrassing information about one of our political Parties.
More to the point, just like the Target corporation, the DNC is responsible for their own fate. They, and they alone, bear the brunt of not being able to protect themselves from the inevitable and unrelenting hacking attempts that have been made, are currently being made, and will continue to be made against any and all political websites and servers.
It was a "security breach". The DNC "allowed hackers" to get to embarrassing information. If you really wanted to investigate a breach, I'd much rather spend our taxpayer money trying to figure out who hacked Target and affected millions of Americans, rather than who hacked the DNC and embarrassed them.
One really mattered. The other, well, not so much.
Had the hack taken place on the Green Party website, or the Liberartian Party website, nobody would have given it a second thought. I might even suggest that had it been the RNC there would have been no fanfare other than the media demanding that the RNC was unsophisticated for allowing themselves to get hacked. The Democrats and the media probably would have made the argument being hacked made them unfit to run the country (which is actually a pretty darn good argument).
I promise you this, had it been the RNC rather than the DNC website, we would not have had three years of investigations, nobody would have accused Hillary of being a Russian agent, and there would have been no Special Counsel.
The truth is that the hacking of a political Party website is not an attack on our Democracy. To compare it to Pearl Harbor or an act of war is beyond silly. The entire Russian conspiracy is built on a chain of events that are almost irrelevant to the real world. This was only built up through a dedicated system of propaganda and gaslighting designed to take advantage of people so upset with the election of Donald Trump that they would be willing to attach themselves to anything that made it feel better.
But make no mistake. When all the dust settled, it was all little more than a simple hacking of a private company server. It happens every day. It will continue to happen. The world will go on. Get over it.
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You are saying that the Russians did not make any attempt to influence the outcome of the election.
Even single intelligence agency and the Development of Justice, and the FBI have been lying since day one of the investigation by the Special Investigation team led by Robert Mueller and appointed by the director of the Department of Justice.
You need help.
Because it's easy to hack into Target stores computers.
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Exhibit A is the book “Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign,” by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes. In light of this week’s revelation that Hillary’s campaign funded the dirty anti-Trump “Steele” dossier, the book takes on a new significance. It reveals:
“Within 24 hours of her concession speech, [campaign chair John Podesta and manager Robby Mook] assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn’t entirely on the up-and-up. For a couple of hours, with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script they would pitch to the press and the public. Already, Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.”
The plan, according to the book, was to push journalists to cover how “Russian hacking was the major unreported story of the campaign,” and it succeeded to a fare-thee-well. After the election, coverage of the Russian “collusion” story was relentless, and it helped pressure investigations and hearings on Capitol Hill and even the naming of a special counsel, which in turn has triggered virtually nonstop coverage.
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In March, former Clinton campaign communications director Jennifer Palmieri summed up the post-election strategy in a Washington Post column comparing “Russiagate” to Watergate and encouraging the press and other Democrats to “turn the Russia story against Trump.”
“If we make plain that what Russia has done is nothing less than an attack on our republic, the public will be with us. And the more we talk about it, the more they’ll be with us,” she advised. “Polls show that voters are now concerned about the Russia story and overwhelmingly support an independent investigation.”
In short, Hillary couldn’t beat Trump with the political dirt she secretly purchased during the campaign, so she tried to cripple his presidency with help from an overwhelmingly anti-Trump media. Framing Trump as some sort of modern-day KGB plant was an easy sell, since the pro-Democrat media were also searching for a scapegoat to rationalize the crushing defeat of their shared liberal agenda at the polls.
The irony is, it may have in fact been Hillary who came closer to colluding with the Russians in smearing Trump as a Russian traitor than anything Trump did in trying to beat Hillary. The information in the dossier she bought for millions came from Russian intelligence sources, and her lawyers brokered the deal with a Kremlin-tied lobbyist. When it failed to stop Trump, the Russia paymaster turned into the Russia spinmeister.
Now we really know “What Happened.”
https://nypost.com/2017/10/26/how-team-hillary-played-the-press-for-fools-on-russia/
we pissed away $30 MILLION on a fucking fairy tale.
technically the DNC wasn't even hacked. podesta is such a dumb fuck he got phished. that's how they got in. and the DNC couldn't have been too upset about it since they declined an FBI effort to investigate, going with crowdstrike instead.
it was all a lie. all of it. all to explain away the most epic political defeat in the history of the known universe.
What a crock of horseshit....The omnipotent donnie the bigot, our hero and leader showing the way by flying the WH flag at half staff until thursday.....and you slurpers will swallow again....Be proud, you dumb fuck rat as your brethren is fighting hard to maintain white supremacy which you embrace....
CHT, Roger slipped up on the other thread..
He told "You to go home".
He has home ownership envy.
Gutter Drunk Alky fucked up the use of Technology again
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Yep.
China devalued their currency as the Trump is winning.
Roger shot bambi with a Three Thousand Thirty rifle.
A none existent caliber .
China devalued their currency as the Trump is winning.
Dow off 300 plus points....you losing you dumb fucking asshole......
Oh look.the Goldfish Denny has come to be schooled on economics, again.
Your team.complains that too few people invest in stocks.
Hell, the dwarfs call it "wealth racism".
All Americans have the same opportunities to succeed .
"Wealth—the measure of an individual’s or family’s financial net worth—provides all sorts of opportunities for American families. Wealth makes it easier for people to seamlessly transition between jobs, move to new neighborhoods, and respond in emergency situations. It allows parents to pay for or help pay for their children’s education and enables workers to build economic sustainability in retirement. Importantly, it is the most complete measure of a family’s future economic well-being. "
You are saying that the Russians did not make any attempt to influence the outcome of the election.
Roger
Every election in our lifetime has had foreign countries attempting to "influence" them. That would include both our foes (Russia, China) and our allies. Meanwhile we openly and blatantly attempt to influence elections all the time. Sometimes we go in and take military action to overthrow a government (most of the time they were elected).
Is it your argument that nobody ever attempted to influence anyone elses elections until the Russians attempted to do so in 2016? Are we supposed to believe that you are that naive?
Part of being a Democracy (or a Republic as it were) is dealing with foreign intervention, and protecting yourself from it. Both at a federal level as well as at a campaign level.
The Government did what they could, Roger. They warned all of the candidates (Trump, Bernie, Hillary, Cruz, etc) and all of the Parties (DNC, RNC, Green, etc) that there was significant amounts of attempted hacking (which there will be from here on out).
There was absolutely nothing special about these attempts in 2016, other than they found a hole in the DNC security which they exploited (and yes, by all accounts it was nothing anymore complicated than a phishing scam).
At the end of the day this isn't about rhetoric, it's about reality.
You can provide all the "rhetoric" in the world, and it doesn't replace the fact that this was a simple hacking of a private server, and the Federal Government probably had little business in taking such an large interest in attempting to help the DNC in this case. They would not have helped any other Political Party had it happened to them.
Because it's easy to hack into Target stores computers.
Easy, huh? Target (along with the rest of our financial institutes) have some of the most (if not the most) sophisticated cyber-security in the world. They spend a small fortune keeping things safe.
You simply cannot justify the hypocrisy of blaming Target as the culprit when they were hacked, while demanding that not only was the DNC the victim here, but the entire United States was the victim because a private server got hacked.
The Military Chic that grab the blow job chic . I being accused of being a Russian Operative .
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The Military Chic that grab the blow job chic
While you remain a goat fucking fake farming asshole....go put a pickle up your ass....
Target (along with the rest of our financial institutes)
Target is a financial institution....I doubt krugman would agree with you.....BWAAAAAAA!!!! And it is most amusing to now know you are an expert in companies security......dayum Lil Scotty.....you are really a multi faceted talent that demands respect......BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
They hacked into the DNC servers in order to damage the Clinton campaign and assist the Trump campaign to support his campaign. It's that simple, and you avoid the Coldheartedtruth because you hate liberals so much that you ignore the facts.
The entire United States was the victim because a private server got hacked. It resulted in the election of Donald Trump and greatly reduced the credibility of our democratic republic election system.
They hacked into the DNC servers in order to damage the Clinton campaign and assist the Trump campaign to support his campaign.
Well every website, every email, and ever server in every campaign was being hacked by multiple people throughout the campaign, just like every website, every email, and ever server in every campaign is being hacked right now.
(by hack, I mean an attempt to get in - not all hacks or hackers are successful)
The question is whether or not the hackers get in or they don't.
So there is nothing "special" about the DNC hack other than it was successful. That, Roger, is on the DNC and not us. Moreover all of the evidence shows that there were multiple successful hacks on the DNC website, that it was more than just one Party that got through.
The idea that our foreign governments want one candidate or another to win is not an affront to our democracy. I would argue that in 2016, most of our foreign leaders sided with Clinton. Some of them provided implicit (or even explicit) endorsements of Clinton. Of course, if the argument that anything of value is illegal, than it would be illegal for any foreign leader to show an opinion.
By your logic, a foreign leader showing an opinion (provides something of value) and would be an attack on our Democracy!
It resulted in the election of Donald Trump
Actually Roger... no sane person has suggested that the hack of the DNC website swung the election.
greatly reduced the credibility of our democratic republic election system.
No... the election itself was never affected.
The DNC SERVERS WERE HACKED.
That's it Roger. A hacked website. Not a "hacked election".
Are you too far gone to notice the difference?
The entire United States was the victim because a private server got hacked.
I couldn't care less. I am not a victim of anything.
You are just a victim of supporting a political Party that cannot secure their own Server... nothing more, nothing less!
CHT explain technology to the homeless gutter drunk.
I couldn't care less. I am not a victim of anything.
BWAAAAAAAA!!! A victim of trumps narrow minded bigotry is more than enough.....that is really showing you to be a really dumb fuck Lil Scotty....Not caring about russian interference is loathsome and stupid!!! Why not just move to russia since that is what you want......asshole...
Roger you're a Victim.
I am not.
He won't do shit....not even turning down the rhetoric he inflames people like you Lil Scotty and the dumb fuck rat with....He thinks it's a winning way to 4 more years....I see it as way to tyranny and his want to be be king.....so sad.... Mental illness is rampant here....how do you fix rat???? Or Cramps????? BWAAAAAAAA!!!
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Roger you're a Victim.
And you are a goat fucking asshole and loser......!!!!!
especially here you dumb fucking asshole...
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Yet. Mueller did not know who All the players where, especially ignored those on Hillary's payroll.
Lol@Goldfish Denny.
You simply don't know or capable of understanding.
Roger Run away.
The Texas shooter was triggered by too much plastic waste.
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Lol@Goldfish Denny.
BWAAAAAAAAA!!!! The goat fucking asshole cums in his hand again laughing like the jackal he is....TOO FUCKING FUNNY coming from an unemployed fake farmer and loser!!!!!! Keep digging....especially putting pickles up you old white ass!!!!
The Texas shooter was triggered by too much plastic waste.
He was triggered by hatred of beaners he got from trump....the felon....as you are consumed by racist hate as your kind are dying slowly......too slowly.....
His statement on now is absolutely \robot like....shows no emotion or grasp how to speak like a leader....he is a complete disgrace just like you goat fucker.....as you swallow another load.....Blames everyone but himself with his glorification of violence.....ASSHOLE!!!!
NACO PRESIDENT
great speech, looks like it was written by Alky.
Well, Denny, your threats are hollow.
Like your knowledge of economics and finances.
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Well, Denny, your threats are hollow.
Like your knowledge of economics and fin a
While yours are naive, racist, nationalist and stupid.....you fucking win.....Your knowledge of anything can be summarized by 3 word....Too fucking stupid.....dow down 500 points....tell me oh great thinker how that is winning!!!!!!! You dumb fuck...
He was triggered by hatred of beaners he got from trump....
That's not what the man said, Denny.
He blamed evil corporations for their ruining of the environment and for the automation that was killing jobs, and the Democrats for attempting to win and dominate future elections by importing Hispanic voters.
He believed in Universal healthcare and a guaranteed personal income.
But he also believed that you could not easily implement "either" because corporations were making resources scarcer, because automation was killing jobs, and because we were growing the country with the invasion of Hispanics who are just looking for the very free stuff he believes we need as a country.
He also stated in his Manifesto that he was neither a White Supremacist or a Trump supporter, but that the media would make him out to be both and then blame the President. He added at the end that their own behavior would prove him right.
And of course it did...
And too stupid for words Lil Scotty believes this from a mass murderer as truth!!!!
He also stated in his Manifesto that he was neither a White Supremacist or a Trump supporter,
Yeah, and russia did nothing in the US because trump said so.....BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Everyone but you accept the fact that the Russians intervened in order to assist the Trump campaign.
You have dived into the conspiracy theories so deeply that you have lost your mind.
Since you begged me to educate you, I shall.
"tell me oh great thinker how that is winning!!!!"
People holding put options are winning.
Everyone but you accept the fact that the Russians intervened in order to assist the Trump campaign
Can't imagine why people wouldn't believe it.
Within 24 hours of her concession speech, [campaign chair John Podesta and manager Robby Mook] assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn’t entirely on the up-and-up. For a couple of hours, with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script they would pitch to the press and the public. Already, Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.”
The plan, according to the book, was to push journalists to cover how “Russian hacking was the major unreported story of the campaign,” and it succeeded to a fare-thee-well. After the election, coverage of the Russian “collusion” story was relentless, and it helped pressure investigations and hearings on Capitol Hill and even the naming of a special counsel, which in turn has triggered virtually nonstop coverage.
You have an explanation there sport?
And too stupid for words Lil Scotty believes this from a mass murderer as truth!!!!
So Denny... explain this to me.
The very idea that he is a Trump supporter and White Supremacist is taken entirely from the Manifesto in which he states that he is neither. There is no other details that would justify making the claim.
So if we do not believe he is telling the truth in his Manifesto, then those allegations are based entirely on a lie.
So which is it Denny?
Are the allegations based on a lie (dishonest manifesto)?
Or does the Manifesto tell the truth (in which case he is not a White Nationalist).
Either way you peg it, you lose.
Everyone but you accept the fact that the Russians intervened in order to assist the Trump campaign.
Actually not true at all, Roger.
- The Mueller Report itself states that the Russians only "appeared" to be the ones who hacked the DNC server. The report actually offers no evidence that it was. So Mueller doesn't demand it.
- Julian Assange (who published the information) claims to have electronic evidence that shows his source was not the Russians (but neither the FBI or Special Counsel bothered to talk to him).
- Nobody in our Government has ever actually investigated the DNC server for signs of hacking, because they (DNC) never turned it over to the FBI. We are taking the word of the DNC and Crowdstrike.
So to the degree that one might implicitly trust the DNC to tell the truth, accept a premise that is not entirely proven, and otherwise have no intellectual curiosity about it. Sure, the Russians did it.
But at the end of the day, what was "done" was a simple hack of a private server. It's barely a fucking crime these days.
- The Mueller Report itself states that the Russians only "appeared" to be the ones who
And many times you only appear to have a working brain, Lil Scotty.....every agency confirmed it was the russians were meddling....weasel words are only YOUR OPINION that the russians only appeared....Your stupidly and trump blindness is only being beaten by your choice of a child bride....!!!!
So Denny... explain this to me.
That you are a white nationalist moron who is blind?????? Asshole!!!
Just check.all of my guns.
All are on safe
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