Thursday, August 8, 2019

There was a time, not too long ago...

When Real Clear Politics would provide examples of articles from both sides of the relevant issues of the day. Arguments and a counter-arguments as it were. But today, pretty much what we see across the board is one side calling for unity, while the other demanding that those who call for unity are all a bunch of racists.

You're all evil racists!

We quite literally have around two dozen people who claim to be running for President. Only one (the actual President) has bothered to call for unity. Every last one of the others has taken a national tragedy and attempted to exploit it by calling for division, supporting hatred, and calling their opponents names.

The saddest part about it is that calls for division, civil war, violence, and fundamental personal attacks on political opponents (and their supporters) come entirely from the Democrats, because that is the subset of America (the so angry I want to punch someone in the face for disagreeing with me) that now claims the soul of the Democratic Party.

That may be the best way to break out of the crowd in a crowded primary, but does anyone really believe that calling half the country racist is going to win you a national election?

192 comments:

Commonsense said...

TDS is at it's terminal stage destroying both a media institution and a political party.

Anonymous said...

The US Mainstream Media and socialist Democrats are one in the same.

They lied about the strong leftist hate in both the Dayton and El Paso shooting.

anonymous said...

There was a time, not too long ago...
When Real Clear Politics ....


When people got along and got things done....that was just before trump rode down that escalator and divided the country by race!!!!...Look in the mirror Lil Scotty...you are a prime example!!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Nah Denny...

I am just doing the same thing I have always done, hanging out with the same people I have always hung out with. Doing the same things I have always done. Living the same life.

My life and my choices are not controlled by others... certainly not Donald Trump. It didn't change when Donald Trump was elected anymore than it changed with Obama was elected or Bush was elected.

You, on the other hand, cannot think straight because of Trump. Roger probably lost his marriage, his house, and everything because of Trump. The division is all on you and your ilk, Denny!

The proof is in the anger your side displays as if every tweet is the end of the fucking world! Trump lives rent free in every liberal's head, and you react like a cat to a laser pointer.

The rest of us simply sigh and roll our eyes at you.

anonymous said...

You and your bullshit screed is most amusing...Just because all your hang out withs are WASP with similar views does not mean shit......!!!!! Being old and white is all you got....Like you said, nothing changed with donnie is especially funny showing how little he has done to help you with tax cuts and jobs....However, your demeanor has come down to the shitter with comments about beto taking a crap and losing IQ shows how much trump has affected you!!!! As to trumps tweets, they speak for themselves and reinforces his rhetoric and thin skinned ego that needs stroking by all !!!! His insecurity is constantly on display and yours is also with your bullshit defense of his nazi's are good comments.....Because your bias distorts reality.....your screed and C+P proved again you not only swallow....you enjoy the taste of the old white mans ass!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Sure Denny...

Like my liberal Asian wife, and my brother-in-law who works for a Democratic Senator, my gay friends, or any of the multitudes of HB1 Visa workers I work with five days a week from around the world.

btw... the losing IQ everytime he takes a crap comes from the 80s movie Pretty in Pink. Has nothing to do with Donald Trump.

Except of course... wait for it... wait for it... in YOUR mind, where everything has to do with Trump! You don't even realize how you continue to prove my points for me over and over and over and over.

(psssst... don't worry, your nonsense can all pretty much be blamed on Trump! Make you feel better?)

anonymous said...

Another campaign promise by trump....blown up Lil Scotty's old skanky white ass......Keep running that deficit up and enjoy it!!!!


Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion,” he tweeted. “Cancel order!”

With great fanfare, Trump opened talks with Boeing and as recently as June declared that he had forced Boeing to knock $1.6 billion off the price. He boasted about his negotiating triumph over and over.

Welp. The Pentagon just put out its first formal acquisition report on the presidential planes, and the new cost is . . . $5.2 billion, Air Force Magazine reports. That’s $4.7 billion for the jets themselves and $500 million for associated costs such as hangar construction. In response to my inquiry, an Air Force spokeswoman broke down the costs differently — $3.9 billion for Boeing and the rest for associated costs — and came up with a slightly higher figure for the new Air Force One: $5.3 billion.

Just a couple of billion.....BWAAAAAA!!!!

anonymous said...

More of the debacle .....and little scotty the racist takes another gulp!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!



Heckuva job!

Actually, it’s even worse. Though Trump in 2016 had claimed costs were $4 billion for the two-jet order, the Government Accountability Office had estimated the cost that year at only $3.2 billion. Apples-to-apples comparisons are tricky, largely because Trump tends to make up numbers, but by any measure, the price tag is up — bigly — from when Trump first complained about it.

The tale of Air Force One is a study of Trump’s presidency in miniature. He makes fantastical claims and forecasts that are implausible at the time but that can’t be proved wrong empirically because sufficient time hasn’t passed. As the Trump presidency wears on, however, time exposes more claims as fraudulent.

He claimed the economy would grow consistently at 4 percent and occasionally as high as 8 percent; after an initial boost because of tax cuts, it has settled back down to 2.1 percent.

who said...

"We should soundly reject language coming out of the mouths of any of our leaders that feeds a climate of fear and hatred or normalizes racist sentiments; leaders who demonize those who don't look like us, or suggest that other people, including immigrants, threaten our way of life, or refer to other people as subhuman or imply that America belongs to just one certain type of people.

"Such language isn't new — it's been at the root of most human tragedy throughout history, here in America and around the world. It has no place in our politics and our public life. And it's time for the overwhelming majority of Americans of goodwill, or every race and faith and political party, to say as much — clearly and unequivocally."

anonymous said...

Anonymous who said...

Somebody whom you hate...why do you ask asshole????

cowardly king obama said...


Ready for another amazingly good day

Life is GREAT.

Enjoy


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Vox
Trump’s new defense of his Charlottesville comments is incredibly false

The 2017 “Unite the Right” rally was organized by and intended for white supremacists and white nationalists.

President Donald Trump is still defending his infamous remarks in the wake of the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017, when he said, “You also had some very fine people on both sides.”

The latest attempt came Friday: “I was talking about people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee,” Trump told reporters. “People there were protesting the taking down of the monument to Robert E. Lee. Everybody knows that.”

Trump defended his response to the violence in Charlottesville in 2017 when he said there were “very fine people on both sides.”

He said the was talking about people who “felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee. A great general, whether you like it or not.”

Trump isn’t alone in attempting to recast his “both sides” Charlottesville remarks; his supporters are, too. Within the past few months, Dilbert creator Scott Adams, Morton Klein, head of Zionists of America, and writers for Breitbart and the Federalist have done the same, as the Daily Beast’s Will Sommer reported a few weeks ago.

These writers argue that Trump’s “very fine people on both sides” comments were meant to refer to the protesters in attendance who were attempting to stop the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a public square in Charlottesville, not the neo-Nazis and white nationalists who made up the bulk of the event’s attendees.

As RealClearPolitics’ Steve Cortes argued, “Despite the clear evidence of Trump’s statements regarding Charlottesville, major media figures insist on spreading the calumny that Trump called neo-Nazis ‘fine people.’”

But here’s the thing: He did.

Unite the Right was explicitly organized and branded as a far-right, racist, and white supremacist event by far-right racist white supremacists. This was clear for months before the march actually occurred. So by casting the rally instead as a sort of spontaneous outpouring from Confederate statue enthusiasts, Trump is rewriting history.

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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

What Trump should have known about Unite the Right

The Unite the Right rally, which was scheduled to take place on August 12, 2017, was the most visible display of white nationalist and white supremacist hate en masse in the United States in years. And it was branded as such long before it took place.

The Unite the Right rally was the third such event in Charlottesville in 2017 — and each of these rallies was led and supported by self-proclaimed white nationalists and racists, apparently invigorated by an April 2017 decision by the Charlottesville City Council to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee from Lee Park.

At the time, Confederate statues and monuments across the country were under increased scrutiny, especially following the murder of nine black churchgoers in Charleston, South Carolina, by an avowed racist who enjoyed Confederate symbology.

In May 2017, white nationalist Richard Spencer led a rally and torchlit parade through Lee Park, where attendees chanted “You will not replace us” and “Blood and soil.” In response, the chair of the Charlottesville Republican Party released a statement saying, “Whoever these people were, the intolerance and hatred they seek to promote is utterly disgusting and disturbing beyond words.”

In July 2017, members of Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan also protested against the removal of the Lee statue in Charlottesville, with one member telling USA Today that he was protesting the “cultural genocide” of white people he believed was behind the call for the statue’s removal.

@sarahtoy17
Klansmen arrive amid jeers and shouts of "Racists go home!" @USATODAY

So by August 2017, when the Unite the Right rally was scheduled to take place, it was fairly clear that the organizers behind the rallies on behalf of keeping the Lee statue in place had a very specific ideological bent. That was clear in a police affidavit detailing who was expected at Unite the Right — including roughly 250 to 500 Klansmen and more than 150 “Alt-Knights,” the military division of the Proud Boys.

Jack Smith IV

@JackSmithIV
Police affidavit on tomorrow's "Unite the Right" attendees:
• 150+ Alt Knights
• 250-500 Klu Klux Klan
• 500 "3% Risen"
• 200-300 Militia

The affiliations of the organizers were also clear. Jason Kessler, a “pro-white” activist, filed the permits for the rally.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

On a radio show before the event, Kessler said, “the number one thing is I want to destigmatize Pro-White advocacy. … I want a huge, huge crowd, and that’s what we’re going to have, to come out and support not just the Lee monument but also white people in general, because it is our race which is under attack.”

In fact, going back through the promotional materials for Unite the Right, it is fascinating just how little the statue of Lee, or honoring Confederate veterans, seemed to matter to the organizers and attendees of Unite the Right, an event that, despite its name, had nothing to do with conservatism writ large.

Take, for example, this image created for the rally and approved by both Kessler and Richard Spencer.

A screenshot from court documents pertaining to Richard Spencer’s cellphone records. October 17, 2018.
The names listed here are of prominent white supremacists and alt-right activists: Spencer, Kessler, Holocaust denier and failed Senate candidate Augustus Invictus, Matthew Heimbach (a white nationalist who headed the Traditional Workers Party), and Pax Dickinson, formerly the chief technology officer for Business Insider before he was forced out over misogynistic tweets and became a “neoreactionary.”

Just so we’re extremely clear, here is a video of some of Heimbach’s supporters at a neo-Nazi rally in Pikesville, Kentucky, held after Unite the Right. The man in the foreground giving a fascist salute is wearing a shirt emblazoned with the acronym “RAHOWA,” which means, in white supremacist parlance, “racial holy war.”

Other white nationalists were later added to the program — including Mike “Enoch” Peinovich, an American neo-Nazi and founder of the neo-Nazi podcast The Daily Shoah (an insulting reference to the Holocaust), internet figure and noted anti-Semite Baked Alaska, fellow anti-Semite and Daily Shoah contributor Johnny Monoxide, neo-Nazi Christopher Cantwell, and Michael Hill, co-founder of the League of the South and a slavery proponent who lambasted “organized Jewry” on his group’s Facebook page.

The attendees of Unite the Right were crystal clear as to what the event was supposed to be — not a show of support for history, but a “pro-white” activist event. Neo-Nazi Andrew Anglin described the upcoming Unite the Right rally as in a post on the neo-Nazi website the Daily Stormer on August 8, 2017:

Although the rally was initially planned in support of the Lee Monument, which the Jew Mayor and his Negroid Deputy have marked for destruction, it has become something much bigger than that. It is now an historic rally, which will serve as a rallying point and battle cry for the rising Alt-Right movement.

His post also includes the 14 Words — a phrase coined by a white supremacist who killed a Jewish radio host in 1984.

The Daily Stormer created a poster touting its involvement in the event.

From the Daily Stormer, summer 2017.
None of this was very subtle.

In Discord chats and discussions revealed by legal proceedings that have taken place since Unite the Right, attendees and organizers stated again and again what the point of the event was: “If you want to defend the South and Western civilization from the Jew and his dark-skinned allies, be at Charlottesville on 12 August.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

How Trump responded

On August 15, 2017, Trump made his third statement on the events of Charlottesville. (On August 12, Trump said, “We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides.” National Review called his remarks “vague and equivocal,” while Anglin hailed them.)

Those wishing to defend Trump on this issue have focused on this part of his remarks:

Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.

His supporters have taken that as the totality of his comments on Charlottesville. As Morton Klein said during a House Judiciary Committee hearing earlier this month, “In that statement, he condemned neo-Nazis and white nationalists. He did not mean that they are fine people.”

But Trump said a lot more, which his defenders seem strangely unwilling to reckon with. Here is how Trump described what took place at Unite the Right:

TRUMP: I am not putting anybody on a moral plane, what I’m saying is this: you had a group on one side and a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch, but there is another side. There was a group on this side, you can call them the left. You’ve just called them the left, that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.

REPORTER: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides?

TRUMP: I do think there is blame – yes, I think there is blame on both sides. You look at, you look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And, and, and, and if you reported it accurately, you would say.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

REPORTER: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.

TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

As should be clear by now, there were no “very fine people” who were part of the organizing or promotion of Unite the Right. Unite the Right was an event planned not by traditional conservatives, but by groups and individuals that despise traditional conservatives, like Peinovich, who helped coin the term “cuckservative” to refer to traditional conservatives who spoke out against racism and anti-Semitism.

And during that same press conference, Trump added this:

No, no. There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before. If you look, they were people protesting very quietly, the taking down the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people, neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call ’em. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know, I don’t know if you know, but they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit. So I only tell you this: there are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country. Does anybody have a final – does anybody have a final question? You have an infrastructure question.

“The night before” is referring to the Friday night torchlit rally of August 11, where more than 200 attendees held tiki torches on the campus of the University of Virginia and chanted “Jews will not replace us” and “Blood and soil.” Whatever this event may have been, it was certainly not “people protesting very quietly.”

In short, Unite the Right was organized not by individuals who, in Trump’s words, “felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee,” but by ardent white supremacists and white nationalists.

On multiple occasions before Unite the Right, attendees stated that the Confederate memorial that was supposedly their purpose was actually the least of their concerns. We have their statements, their videos, their posters, and their words.

We also have the transcript and video of how Trump responded. He did, indeed, refer to the people who attended Unite the Right, people who were likely well aware of and supportive of its messaging, as “very fine people,” and he downplayed the tiki torch parade as “people protesting very quietly.”

Unite the Right was a horrific event in our nation’s recent history — and to come to terms with it requires doing so in good faith and honesty, something the president and his defenders appear unwilling to do.

CindyKendrick said...

@CindyKendrick11

Imagine being so full of hate you take time to protest Trump visiting a hospital and trying to help your devastated local community.

Pure evil.

Anonymous said...

" rode down that escalator " Goldfish Denny triggered

Too funny

Clay Travis said...

@ClayTravis

This video is very well done by CNN’s @CortesSteve. Trump never said white supremacists in Charlottesville were “very fine people” yet media constantly reports he did. Trump’s far from perfect, but media needs to get this right.

Watch it : https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1159303680379805698

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Imagine being so full of hate you refuse to admit the truth regarding Charlottesville.

Anonymous said...

Ready for another amazingly good day

Life is GREAT."

Yes, of course. Beneficial rains yesterday and today. Rain makes Grain and hay and pasture grass.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

"Media needs to get this right."

True. See my last posts.

Anonymous said...

Roger, why has Speaker in Name Only Polosi not called the US House back to work?

Mollie said...

@MZHemingway

We Killed God, Family, And Community — And Now It's Killing Us

With the destruction of the family, the church, and the community, the reasons people have traditionally had for their very existence are in danger of receding into the past. And the outcome is predictable: isolation, depression, anxiety, despondency, drug abuse, and death

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/08/killed-god-family-community-now-killing-us/#.XUwdaVzHqmw.twitter

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Vox is an American news and opinion website owned by Vox Media. The website was founded in April 2014 by Ezra Klein, Matt Yglesias and Melissa Bell, and is noted for its concept of explanatory journalism.

Anonymous said...

@ClayTravis

This video is very well done by CNN’s @CortesSteve. Trump never said white supremacists in Charlottesville were “very fine people” yet media constantly reports he did. Trump’s far from perfect, but media needs to get this right."

The Left can't learn, they only parrot.

Examples, post op Jane, gutter homeless Alky and denney

caliphate4vr said...

Vox LMAO

the pederast spams with crap no one reads

Robert Barnes said...


@Barnes_Law

We have such a problem with white supremacy in America that #JussieSmollett had to literally hire two Nigerians to pretend to be white supremacists in "attacking" him

Anonymous said...

Vox= Triggered Socialist Dumb shit.

"Why it matters"

Lol , they don't matter.

Anonymous said...

The only time I read the child candy man is IF she writes grown thoughts.

caliphate4vr said...

How Vox Makes Us Stupid

and the pedophile is prime example of stupid

C3 said...

@C_3C_3

Obama had racist Sharpton in the WH but Trump’s that racist?

Obama posed and smiled with racist Farrakhan but Trump’s the racist?

Obama sat in racist Jeremiah Wright’s church for decades but Trump’s the racist?

Accuse your enemy of being what you are....


that's how dems operate, look at the "pastor"

cowardly king obama said...

Thanks caliphate4vr

I have no doubt Vox will explain the intellectual purity of progressive positions to many liberal readers in a lucid and entertaining way. What it probably won’t do is help anyone with genuine intellectual curiosity “understand the news” any better.

I can see why the "pastor" pushes it

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Shepard Smith strikes a drastically different tone to colleague Tucker Carlson, commenting on the "unmistakable rise of white nationalism and white racism in America" in response to a statement of presidential candidate Joe Biden, who said:

“In both clear language and in code, this president has fanned the flames of white supremacy in this nation.”

Smith summed up Biden’s speech as noting “the unmistakable rise of white nationalism and white racism in America.”

Then, in direct contrast to Carlson’s comments, Smith said Biden was “calling us to our better souls, to recognize that white nationalism is real, that white nationalism is on the rise, that white nationalism is without question a very serious problem in America and beating down those who would help facilitate it and encourage it.”
______________

FIRE HIM! FIRE HIM! All you right wingnuts are yelling.

Anonymous said...

My goodness that's a whole lotta spam.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

There's just SO much truth in those longs posts above.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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Catturd said...

@catturd2

Shepard Smith is the Jussie Smollett of Don Lemons

ROFLMFAO !!!

Anonymous said...

Twitter Suspended Mitch McConnell account because he post a triggered Socialist Democrats cursing and making threats to harm Him and his Family .

C.H. Truth said...

Gee James...

This is what Trump ACTUALLY SAID at the Press conference:

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

He literally SAID he was NOT talking about them.


The only thing you should cut and paste are his words...

Not the lies being spread.

Catturd said...

@catturd2

Good morning to everyone except MSNBC who's lost their damn minds.

How True, the "pastor" must be glued to it.

Anonymous said...

James is the girl the Bible warns us about.

"Bearing faults witness"

C.H. Truth said...

None of your VOX stories or other liberal websites included that particular quote... even though it came in between the other things they are quoting him on.

When you actually leave things out, James... purposely because it ruins your argument. Then that it a lie by omission.

Anonymous said...

If you like to see Alky in full blown meltdown, look at is FB page.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

El Paso Patients Refused to Meet with Trump
August 8, 2019

Washington Post: “None of the eight patients still being treated at University Medical Center in El Paso agreed to meet with Trump when he visited the hospital, UMC spokesman Ryan Mielke said. Two victims who already had been discharged returned to the hospital with family members to meet with the president.”

The Federalist said...

@FDRLST

"This is clearly the 2020 strategy, to accuse all opponents of racism... But it's actually a sign of their weakness. This is the type of thing you do when you don't have good ideas."

Mollie Hemmingway talking about Dem 2020 strategy (nothing divisive about that, right?)

Anonymous said...

Hollywood blockbuster that satirizes killing of ‘deplorables’ causes outrage: ‘Demented and evil’

So Radical Socialist find it humorous to shoot Trump voters.

Anonymous said...

Cool

"Two victims who already had been discharged returned to the hospital with family members to meet with the president.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump Turns Day of Grieving Into Day of Grievances
August 8, 2019 at 6:30 am EDT

“It was intended to be a day for President Donald Trump to pay his respects to the victims of two deadly mass shootings, thank first responders and serve as consoler-in-chief,” NBC News reports.

“But before he even left the White House on Wednesday for El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, the president used his bully pulpit to settle political scores and lash out against slights.”

Daily Beast: “It underscored a reality that’s become obvious to anyone who has ever worked for or even casually observed Trump: He’ll find a way to make nearly any national tragedy into an airing of his personal grievances, and neither he nor nearly anything else will change in the process.”

Commonsense said...

Fox News is having a field day on the Democrats cynical and failed attempts to politicized the tragedies and the left-wing media's complacency in forwarding their narrative,

"When decent people are labeled as indecent by politicians other decent people rally around them and against the politicians."

That's America. "From Joe McCarthy down to Joaquin Castro America hates lists and the politicians who wave them."

cowardly king obama said...

C.H. Truth said...
None of your VOX stories or other liberal websites included that particular quote... even though it came in between the other things they are quoting him on.

When you actually leave things out, James... purposely because it ruins your argument. Then that it a lie by omission.


That exactly why the "pastor" uses these sites and political_liar. He's not interested in the truth, just pushing an ideology, the real truth be damned.

Anonymous said...

Democrats open Strategy.
Call Bush a Racist
Call Romney a Racist
Call Trump a Racist

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

UH OH
Banks Give Documents on Russians Linked to Trump
August 8, 2019 at 7:07 AM

“Major Wall Street banks have given congressional committees investigating President Trump thousands of pages of documents related to Russians who may have had dealings with Mr. Trump, his family or his business,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

“Some banks are also giving documents related to Mr. Trump’s business, the Trump Organization, to New York state investigators.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Most Pennsylvanians Think It’s Time for a Change
August 8, 2019 at 7:11 am EDT

A new Franklin & Marshall poll in Pennsylvania finds 38% of registered voters believes President Trump has done a good enough job to deserve reelection, while 61% voters say it is time for a change.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump’s Trip Was ‘Something of a Debacle’

New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman told CNN that aides to President Trump think he behaved disastrously yesterday while he was supposed to be consoling the victims of the El Paso and Dayton shootings.

Said Haberman: “Most people – while they would I suspect not say that publicly – will privately admit that yesterday was something of a debacle. These are not the headlines they wanted to see. They wanted him to go in and behave differently. The goal was to go in and get out with as little news as possible.”


Anonymous said...

Fake Pastor Jane. My Lawyer has not heard from yours after you said you were going to sue me.
Why are you suing me?

Tatiana Favela said...

@TatianaKTSM

"We were just grateful that he came and gave us support in this horrible time," Tito Anchondo, brother of Andre Anchondo who's one of the victims killed in the #ElPasoShooting tells me after President @realDonaldTrump visited @umcelpaso and spoke with his family

but the liberal MSM is in panic mode, as is the "pastor"

Mollie said...

@MZHemingway

Many prominent media figures and Democratic politicians have spent days accusing Trump of mass murder. Days of calling his voters evil and racist. Then they get mad when he responds to these attacks. Interesting game they have going on

cowardly king obama said...

Maggie Haberman

ROFLMFAO !!!


I think the "pastor" has no clue, just assumes that helps his "argument"

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

TO CH:
I didn't leave anything out. I quoted everything Trump said in the Vox article, including his lying attempt to cover up what he had earlier said.

C.H. Truth said...

Daily Beast: “It underscored a reality that’s become obvious to anyone who has ever worked for or even casually observed Trump: He’ll find a way to make nearly any national tragedy into an airing of his personal grievances, and neither he nor nearly anything else will change in the process.”


Wow James...

Did you not hear Joe Biden call Trump a racist, and Beto O'Rourke fall down the crazy hole of a obscenity laced tirade of similar sorts? Every single Democrat running for President used these shootings as an excuse to take personal shots at the President.

TDS James!

caliphate4vr said...

Maggie Haberman

Stupid, stupid, stupid old man

C.H. Truth said...

James - you left out the best part of that Franklin & Marshall College Poll!

President Trump’s current rating is similar to President Obama’s rating in Pennsylvania at the same point in his Presidency. Two in five (38%) registered voters believes President Trump has done a good enough job to deserve reelection, while three in five (61%) voters say it is time for a change.

Pretty sure Obama took the state again in spite of low poll numbers!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump Bragged About Crowd While Visiting Shooting Victims

While visiting shooting victims and medical personnel at a hospital in El Paso, a video shows President Trump started bragging about the size of the crowd at his rally before attacking Beto O’Rourke.

C.H. Truth said...

I didn't leave anything out. I quoted everything Trump said in the Vox article, including his lying attempt to cover up what he had earlier said.

I didn't say you left anything out of the VOX story.

The VOX story left this quote out:

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

The VOX story is a lie, James. Because they specifically left out the very quote that was fully germane to whether or not he condemned the neo-Nazis or whether he said they were fine people.

He very very very specifically made the qualification during his press conference. The fact that VOX leaves this out is proof positive that they are lying.


Of course VOX knows the truth.

That you are too lazy or are too partisan to ever fact check anything for yourself.



So no matter how many stories you C&P that do not include his germane quote in regards to the White Nationalist... it will not get you any closer to proving the lie.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Pentagon Warns ISIS Is Resurging In Syria
August 8, 2019 at 10:41 am EDT

In a sobering new report, the Pentagon’s independent watchdog concludes that the remnants of the Islamic State militant group have been capitalizing on President Trump’s drawdown in Syria, the Washington Post reports.

From the report: “Despite losing its territorial ‘caliphate,’ the Islamic State solidified its insurgent capabilities in Iraq and was resurging in Syria. The reduction of U.S. forces has decreased the support available for Syrian partner forces at a time when their forces need more training and equipping to respond to the ISIS resurgence.”

Trump, just three weeks ago: “We did a great job. We have 100 percent of the caliphate, and we’re rapidly pulling out of Syria. We’ll be out of there pretty soon.”
_________
Pentagon Warns? Oh, hell, what do they know? Trump knows more than all his generals.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

The article in its entirety speaks for itself, Ch.
Even a Trump sell-out and lackey like you can see that.

caliphate4vr said...

Pentagon Warns ISIS Is Resurging In Syria

Just think if Obunghole had taken them seriously, the JV, they would have never gotten a foothold

More fail from the worst President evah

C.H. Truth said...

James

Read this story:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/03/21/trump_didnt_call_neo-nazis_fine_people_heres_proof_139815.html


Or perhaps just go back and watch the press conference for yourself. It's still out there on You Tube.

But if you do, be prepared to realize that I am correct (again) about this and that VOX and others have been lying to you!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Everything is a hoax except me, Trump tries to say.

But the American people aren't buying it.

C.H. Truth said...

The article in its entirety speaks for itself, Ch.


Watch the Press conference for yourself James!

I DARE YA!!!

Coward!!!!

LOL!!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Speaks for itself.

cowardly king obama said...

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

Seems like a small detail to leave out according to the "pastor". Speaks volumes about the "pastor's" credibility, and to his cut-n-paste "sources".

Zilch credibility.

C.H. Truth said...

btw....

The Real Clear Politics article is a CNN pundit who is on records as calling his colleagues out as liars. Not exactly a FOX News or Breitbart journalist.


But James will not read it!

Scared to death of the truth!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Coward? I KNOW Trump said that. But then put it in context with all else that he said.

That's what the Vox article does.

C.H. Truth said...

Speaks for itself.

So does the fact that 78% of Americans no longer trust the news...

That's probably 99% that don't trust VOX.


Only the truly gullible don't look up things for themselves!


If you haven't watched the Press conference yourself James... then you are simply allowing yourself to be gaslighted by lies!

C.H. Truth said...

But then put it in context with all else that he said.

That's what the Vox article does.


Here it is in full complete context!

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

CH SAYS:
78% of Americans no longer trust the news...
___________

Well, a lot of people in Pennsylvania sure don't trust SOMEONE.

Most Pennsylvanians Think It’s Time for a Change
August 8, 2019

A new Franklin & Marshall poll in Pennsylvania finds 38% of registered voters believes President Trump has done a good enough job to deserve reelection, while 61% voters say it is time for a change.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

And just look at what your friend Sean Trende says, CH:

Yes, Republicans Should Be Worried About Texas
August 8, 2019

Sean Trende:
“It seems a stretch, but remember that Mitt Romney won Texas by 16 points, Donald Trump won by nine, and Cruz won by just three. These are not good trendlines for the GOP. States do shift their partisanship quickly at times. George H.W. Bush won New Hampshire by 26 points in 1988 and New Jersey by 14; in 1996 New Jersey went for Clinton by 18 points, while New Hampshire was a 10-point Clinton win. That same year, West Virginia was a 15-point Clinton win; eight years later George W. Bush won it by 13.

“We might write off 2018 to the bad GOP year and Cruz’s unpopularity. But that requires ignoring some substantial evidence to the contrary. One has to ignore that John McCain won the state by double digits in a 2008 environment that was probably even worse for the GOP than 2018, while John Cornyn won re-election against a hyped Democratic opponent handily.

“Most importantly, one has to ignore the nature of political coalitions in the Age of Trump. Trump has generally improved GOP fortunes in rural American and in the towns, and in states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio, all of which has generally helped the Republican Party. But there is little doubt that the GOP has suffered substantial losses in the suburban areas that once formed the backbone of the party while doing little to advance its cause in the major cities.”

Anonymous said...

ISIS "The JV Team"

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Sean Trende used to post here. But since you have lost your mind Scott, he has disappeared. You don't get cited on RCP either.

caliphate4vr said...

Roger he left when Cold gave you front page posting privileges

Anonymous said...

Notice that the age of these murders became adults during the Obama lost years

Anonymous said...

The plastic pollution Triggered El Paso shooter victims .

19 of them were white and over 55 years old.

Anonymous said...

Roger, Thank you for "friending " me on your FB.

anonymous said...


Sure Denny...

Like my liberal Asian wife, and my brother-in-law who works for a Democratic Senator

Which proves someone you know has a working brain, unlike you, trumps excuse maker!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!

anonymous said...


Blogger KD said...
Roger, why has Speaker in Name Only Polosi not called the US House back to work?


You goat fucking idiot....her legislation for the improvement of checks is sitting in Moscow's Mitch's desk, still waiting for mitch to come out of his coma and trumps stinky old white ass!!!!

anonymous said...

19 of them were white and over 55 years old.


Wrong again goat fucking idiot....are you terminally stupid or is this trumps doing?????

anonymous said...

Another trump supporter acting out what trump is demanding of white skin heads....


https://www.yahoo.com/news/montana-man-attacked-13-old-010257574.html

Whatta a fucking idiot....just like you goat fucker, attacking little boys!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Prove me wrong Goldfish.

Anonymous said...

Your plastic triggered big business hater is a murdering fucktard.

Anonymous said...

Triggered AOC .
Historically retarded, must have studied in college with Alky.

"White supremacy is often subconscious. & Clearly, our nation has not been inoculated. WS is our nation’s original sin;the driving logic of slavery, of Native genocide, of Jim Crow, of segregation, of mass incarceration,of “Send Her Back.”

anonymous said...

Didn't trump say the other day his rhetoric brings us together???? How could this then happen??????


Some hospitalized victims of last weekend's mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, are refusing to meet with President Trump, according to the Washington Post.

The president, who visited El Paso on Wednesday, made his first stop at the University Medical Center (UMC), where many of the injured were taken after the Saturday mass shooting at a Walmart shopping center that left 22 people dead.

However, all eight of the victims still being treated at the hospital refused to speak with Trump. Leticia Mariscal, whose daughter was shot in the leg during the attack and whose husband remains in critical condition at UMC, said her family disapproves of the president due to his anti-Hispanic rhetoric.

"The whole family said if [Trump] wants to go into the room — no. We don't want him in the patient's room," Mariscal told El Paso's KFOX-TV. "Because of the way he talked against Mexicans — against Hispanics. So we don't want to talk to a person that is against Mexicans."

RELATED: El Paso grieves those lost in Saturday's mass shooting


Saul Chavez, a relative of Jorge Calvillo, who died in the shooting, told the news station he wished Trump had not come to visit.

"I wish he wouldn't have needed to come. I think he just came to do a circus," Chavez said. "He was the one who brewed up all of this hatred against Mexicans — I guess he forgot what he said."

Trump did visit with two injured victims while at UMC, both of whom had been previously discharged but returned to the hospital to see the president. White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said Trump was "received very warmly by not just victims and their families, but by the many members of medical staff who lined the hallways to meet them," according to the Washington Post.

anonymous said...

Blogger KD said...
Prove me wrong Goldfish.


You are always wrong goat fucker.....all surnames killed were spanish...prove me wrong you dumb fuck...

Catturd said...

@catturd2

Shepard Smith cried on air over 600 illegals getting raiding.

Has anyone ever seen him cry for an Angel Mom?

C.H. Truth said...

Sean Trende used to post here. But since you have lost your mind Scott, he has disappeared.

I still correspond with Sean through email and twitter. In fact, just had a bit of back and forth regarding "halfbaked" just a few weeks ago.

anonymous said...

19 of them were white


The goat fucking asshole now thinks killing whites is a good thing.......BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! You being a stupid bigoted trump sucking asshole is boundless....

cowardly king obama said...

OUTRAGEOUS: Most Corrupt FBI Agent in US History (Peter Strzok) Lands Most Corrupt Judge in US History (Amy Berman Jackson) to Oversee His Case!!!

The most corrupt judge in US history, Obama appointee Amy Berman Jackson, was assigned to the wrongful termination lawsuit from the most corrupt FBI Agent in US history, Peter Strzok.

This is an outrage!

Judge Amy Berman Jackson, an Obama appointed liberal judge with a corrupt disposition and anger towards Americans who think differently than Obama, will now apply her own distorted interpretation of the law in corrupt cop Peter Strzok’s wrongful termination case.

We reported in March 2018 and again in May 2018, that Obama appointed liberal activist Judge, Amy Berman Jackson, was assigned to the Manfort case in the Trump – Russia fake investigation.

In 2013 Judge Jackson rejected arguments from the Catholic Church that Obamacare’s requirements that employers provide cost free coverage to contraceptive services in spite of being contrary to their religious beliefs. This was overturned by the Supreme Court.

In 2017 Judge Jackson dismissed the wrongful death suit against Hillary Clinton filed by two of the families who lost loved ones in Benghazi. The families argued that Clinton had done little to help their sons and then lied to cover it up Then on January 19, 2018, a Paul Manafort’s case was reassigned to Judge Jackson on January 19th, a few weeks after being filed.

It is unknown why she was assigned to the Manfort case or by whom. What is clear is that with her atrocious and slanted record, the Deep State and the Mueller team certainly wanted Judge Jackson overseeing that case.

On January 3, 2018, we reported that Paul Manafort filed a suit against the “Deep State” DOJ (Jeff Sessions), Assistant AG Rod Rosenstein and Corrupt Investigator Robert Mueller that should have shut down Mueller’s corrupt investigation

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/outrageous-most-corrupt-fbi-agent-in-us-history-peter-strzok-lands-most-corrupt-judge-in-us-history-amy-berman-jackson-to-oversee-his-case/

Why do the same small circle of FBI investigators and federal judges keep landing on the same "deep state" cases? Hopefully Barr has something going behind the scenes.

Anonymous said...




The fact that VOX leaves this out is proof positive that they are lying.


the only reason vox really exists is to provide a pivot man for the circlejerk that was the Journ0list listserv.

if you need your political news vox-splained to you, you're shopping for ideological affirmation and confirmation bias.




and alky, as for trende, if you really think he enjoyed your frenetic, mentally ill gibberish then you should have no problem luring him back to the hospice blog. send him a DM, and get it done.

you remember the hospice blog, right alky?

the one with the disclaimer:

Editor's Note:

The views of Roger Amick are in no way endorsed or supported by me, and should not be considered representative of either the historical or current Coldheartedtruth blog.

C.H. Truth




Anonymous said...

Again Denny failed.

To easy.


James said...

Hospitalized victims of El Paso shooting reportedly refuse to meet with President Trump: 'He just came to do a circus'

Some hospitalized victims of last weekend's mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, are refusing to meet with President Trump, according to the Washington Post.

The president, who visited El Paso on Wednesday, made his first stop at the University Medical Center (UMC), where many of the injured were taken after the Saturday mass shooting at a Walmart shopping center that left 22 people dead.

However, all eight of the victims still being treated at the hospital refused to speak with Trump. Leticia Mariscal, whose daughter was shot in the leg during the attack and whose husband remains in critical condition at UMC, said her family disapproves of the president due to his anti-Hispanic rhetoric.

"The whole family said if [Trump] wants to go into the room — no. We don't want him in the patient's room," Mariscal told El Paso's KFOX-TV. "Because of the way he talked against Mexicans — against Hispanics. So we don't want to talk to a person that is against Mexicans."

Saul Chavez, a relative of Jorge Calvillo, who died in the shooting, told the news station he wished Trump had not come to visit.

"I wish he wouldn't have needed to come. I think he just came to do a circus," Chavez said. "He was the one who brewed up all of this hatred against Mexicans — I guess he forgot what he said."

James said...

Didn't see that had already been posted.

Anonymous said...
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Anonymous said...

JamesAugust 8, 2019 at 9:34 AM

El Paso Patients Refused to Meet with Trump
August 8, 2019 

Washington Post: “None of the eight patients still being treated at University Medical Center in El Paso agreed to meet with Trump when he visited the hospital, UMC spokesman Ryan Mielke said. Two victims who already had been discharged returned to the hospital with family members to meet with the president..."


You already spammed it .

Anonymous said...




El Paso Patients Refused to Meet with Trump

and for that i thank them.

as the world becomes more complex, it's very helpful when the chronically stupid choose to self-identify.




cowardly king obama said...

Democrats Believe Blood Buys 2020 Votes

The coordinated slurs that prominent Democrats are leveling at President Trump in the wake of the horrific mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton are pure Alinskyite.

Rule 8 of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals”: “Keep the pressure on.” Rule 10: executing “operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”

Rule 11: “If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.” And, of course, the infamous Rule 13: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

“This president has fanned the flames of white supremacy in this nation,” former Vice President Joe Biden said in Iowa on Wednesday. “We have a president with a toxic tongue who has publicly and unapologetically embraced the political strategy of hate, racism and division.”

“He’s trying to intimidate this community, make us afraid of one another,” Beto O’Rourke said in his native El Paso on Wednesday. Earlier, O’Rourke, the former Texas congressman who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, referred to “this terrorism that was, in part, inspired by President Trump.”

“Donald Trump has put a target on the back of millions,” charged Rep. Joaquin Castro, the Texas Democrat whose identical twin is running for president.

Rep. Veronica Escobar, who represents El Paso in Congress, contended that Trump has a responsibility “to recognize his role in all of this … Mr. President, your words harmed us.”

“There is a very sophisticated network of hate in this country,” Sen. Chris Murphy, the Connecticut Democrat, told MSNBC, and Trump “is now their primary cheerleader.”

If they all make sure they stay on message – if no Democrat breaks the circle – the idea is that the public will conclude that their accusations must be true, that we have a president of the United States who is inciting massacres.

Despite Trump having never done any such thing, even when his rhetoric is at its most incendiary.

https://issuesinsights.com/2019/08/08/democrats-believe-blood-buys-2020-votes/

Divisive, race-baiting lefties. Truly despicable. Like the "pastor"

Anonymous said...

Damn Funny how they actually believe themselves.
"Efforts to curb greenhouse gas-emissions and the impacts of global warming will fall significantly short without drastic changes in global land use, agriculture and human diets, leading researchers warn in a high-level report commissioned by the United Nations.

The special report on climate and land by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) describes plant-based diets as a major opportunity for mitigating and adapting to climate change ― and includes a policy recommendation to reduce meat consumption."



Anonymous said...

Exactly

"Divisive, race-baiting lefties. Truly despicable. Like the "pastor"

Harry Khachatrian said...

@Harry1T6

Apparently MSNBC went out of their way to photoshop a blue checkmark onto a MediaMatters writer’s account, to make his tweet look, “more legit”.
Really strange that people don’t trust the media anymore. Wonder why?
images: https://twitter.com/Harry1T6/status/1159442368820580352


Fake news MSNBC is pulling a Dan Rather

Anonymous said...

What is the Socialist Democrats plan to take guns away from criminals?

cowardly king obama said...

Hero of El Paso shooting says Trump showed softer side during visit

EL PASO, Texas — President Trump offered a gentler version of his presidency to survivors of the El Paso shooting during his visit to the Texas city, according to a baseball coach who heroically raced to the scene to save lives.

“One of the children went up to hug him so he got down on one knee to let him,” said Jimmy Villatoro, who described meeting the president at the city’s University Medical Center, where many of the wounded were treated.
“It was a different side of him, one that you don’t see in public,” Villatoro said in an interview with the Washington Examiner...

Villatoro said his personal touch away from the cameras was far from divisive and was welcomed by the people he met. There were no politics behind closed doors, he added.

“He made sure my family was OK, asking after my wife and son,” he said.
“We met him face to face, and he and Melania were amazing, checking we were okay, offering any kind of help, if we needed someone to talk to. We told him that Democrats, Republicans, we were all united in this city.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hero-of-el-paso-shooting-says-trump-showed-softer-side-during-visit

the "pastor" and MSM: THIS MUST NOT BE REPORTED.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The eight patients still being treated at University Medical Center in El Paso, Texas, which Donald Trump visited Wednesday, refused to meet with the president while he was there.

C.H. Truth said...

The eight patients still being treated at University Medical Center in El Paso, Texas, which Donald Trump visited Wednesday, refused to meet with the president while he was there.

Clearly all eight are racists!

cowardly king obama said...

Clearly all eight are racists!

and must be Russian agents who Trump could identify !!!

DOX them ! Get in their faces and don't give them any peace.

RESIST !!! Oh and keep politics out of this.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Racist comments by the President may have a huge problem.

, the GOP Should Worry About Texas
By Sean Trende
August 08, 2019
The past week brought a surge of strange news out of Texas. First, three Republican congressmen, representing suburban San Antonio, Dallas, and Houston, decided to retire. These retirements are from districts that all saw surprisingly strong showings from Democrats last year, and they collectively set up the possibility that Republicans could emerge from the 2020 election with just a four-seat advantage in the state delegation. Second, we saw polling suggesting that the presidential race in Texas is close (indeed, former Vice President Joe Biden leads Donald Trump in the RealClearPolitics average).

We should be cautious about overinterpreting these factors. The retirements are susceptible to multiple interpretations. Perhaps members dislike being in the minority and realize they would be unlikely to return to the majority until 2022 (assuming Donald Trump loses re-election) or 2026 (if he wins). Perhaps members dislike choosing between defending this president and losing their base – that almost certainly played a role in Will Hurd’s decision. Yes, the GOP’s map may collapse, but that is a long-term danger of gerrymandering: Creating a large number of districts that weakly favor your party leaves you susceptible to demographic changes over the course of a decade. Likewise, the track record of polls of registered voters more than a year before an election is not so great.

Finally, we have heard this before. At least since the publication of “The Emerging Democratic Majority,” Democrats have hungrily been eyeing the Lone Star State, as its growing Hispanic population seemingly offers them inroads. I’ve been skeptical of this, in part because the state’s Hispanic population is relatively conservative (compared, at least, to California’s), in part because the white population is heavily conservative, and in part because the state showed no significant sign of moving politically over this time period.

Yet, there are reasons now to believe these shifts are real, and that Texas’s 38 electoral votes are in jeopardy for the GOP.


👹

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Clearly they believe the President is a racist.

James said...

The NRA Is Warning Trump Background Checks Will Hurt Him Politically

The chief executive of the National Rifle Association is warning President Donald Trump that backing expanded background checks on gun sales would hurt Trump's standing among his core base of supporters, the Washington Post reported Wednesday.

The Post said Trump is showing interest in backing legislation to strengthen background checks on people seeking to purchase firearms in the wake of two mass shootings in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio that killed 31 people and injured dozens of others in the course of 24 hours.

But both NRA executive Wayne LaPierre and Trump's own aides have intervened and are trying to talk Trump out of supporting stronger background checks, sources told the Post, which reported that LaPierre argued that Trump's own supporters do not approve of expanding background checks.

In February, the House of Representatives passed two bills to require background checks on all private gun sales and increase the amount of time required to process a background check — neither of which Sen. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell brought to the floor of the Senate for a vote.

LaPierre's claim that Trump supporters aren't in favor of background checks is not, however, backed up by recent polling data, which shows overwhelming support for universal background checks across the political spectrum.

According to a Morning Consult/Politico poll released on August 7, 90% of Republicans and Trump 2016 voters and 89% of those who currently hold a favorable view of Trump support mandatory background checks on all gun sales.

Republican Sen. Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania and Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia are similarly teaming up on a Senate bill to expand background checks to virtually all private sales, and both told the Post they had spoken to Trump in recent days making the case for the bill — which the NRA does not support.

Manchin said that any legislation expanding background checks would need Trump's support to have a fighting chance on Capitol Hill, telling the Post that he expressed to Trump that "if you don't stand up and say, 'This is a piece of legislation I support,' we're not going to get enough cover to have Republicans stand tall. They won't be able to do it."

The Post also reported that Trump is questioning whether the NRA — which has had a huge influence over Republican lawmakers for decades but is currently weathering a number of financial and legal scandals — still holds the same level of sway within the GOP.

After the mass shooting at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas high school in Parkland, Florida, the Trump administration similarly defied the NRA by banning bump stocks — devices that allow shooters to fire multiple rounds more quickly.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, one of Trump's allies on the hill, told the Post he's optimistic that Trump "seems determined to do something and believes there is space to get something done this time around," adding, "he's never been a sports or gun enthusiast. But he is more determined than ever to do something on his watch."
___________

BS The coward is already caving on background checks.

cowardly king obama said...

Roger Amick said...
Clearly they believe the President is a racist.


Well that's what the FAKE NEWS has been broadcasting 24/7 along with complicit democrats. False reporting about things like the fine people on both sides hoax and not differentiating between legal and illegal immigration have clearly impacted people and divided people, which democrats want.

The good thing is the president has lots of money, is in a much stronger position than he was before his 2016 victory, and knocking down the false narratives before the 2020 election should be fairly easy. What his coattails look like will be interesting.

Geraldo Rivera said...

@GeraldoRivera

How would you react if a presidential candidate accused you of being complicit in, and responsible for, the mass murder of innocents?
@BetoORourke charge is even more disgusting than his accusing Trump of being a Russian spy.
@RealDonaldTrump has the right to be pissed.

James said...

https://www.msnbc.com/velshi-ruhle/watch/-breaks-your-heart-school-superintendent-on-caring-for-students-whose-parents-were-detained-by-ice-65644101552

Talk about STUPID insensitivity!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

RCP isn't the problem. It's his racist comments said Sean Trende!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's not Fake News, it's a fact.

Gary said...

@GarySmed

We reach a new high in liberal derangement daily.

It’s getting scary worse... and we have 15 months more til we crush the left with a landslide.

Put on ur seatbelts


I say load up on popcorn and watch the exploding clown heads

Kimberley Strassel said...

@KimStrassel

Typhus? The plague? California is so progressive, it is becoming medieval...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-goes-to-the-rats-11565216091?shareToken=st54f48208eab245b7b8eeffd35af41fb9 … via @WSJ

Evangelist Alveda King said...

@AlvedaCKing

I am the Niece of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Listen to my words...

President Trump is not a racist!!

He is one of the best presidents America has ever seen! I fully support him!
@potus @realDonaldTrump

Marc Lotter said...

@marc_lotter

Attacks on @realDonaldTrump from Biden/Beto:
"absolutely shameful. The President is trying to bring our nation together... The President was down on his knees so children could hug him while they were visiting hospitals... It's just cheap!"


democrats want to divide, not unite

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The most divisive President in history has devastated a Republican bastion with the educated women who have supported Trump in the past.



Once a GOP hotbed, Orange County now has more registered Democrats than Republicans
By Devan Cole, CNN

Posted at 9:37 AM ET, Wed August 7, 2019


Washington (CNN) — Orange County, California, a historically Republican stronghold that served as the North Star for Ronald Reagan-style conservatism, now has more voters registered as Democrats than Republicans.
According to data released by the county, 547,458 Democrats are registered in the county, nearly 90 more than the 547,369 registered Republicans that reside there as of Wednesday morning. Of the nearly 1.6 million registered voters in the county, close to 27% of them do not currently have a party affiliation, according to the statistics.
The new figures, earlier reported by the Los Angeles Times, come nearly nine months after Democrats achieved a total takeover of congressional seats in the one-time Republican bastion, helping the party to secure control of the House, and provide a striking look at a county that Reagan once said was was a place where "good Republicans go to die."

Related Article: Democrats sweep Reagan Country in California
In last fall's midterm elections, Republicans lost their grip on the wealthy enclaves along the coast in northern Orange County that comprise the district held by former 15-term Rep. Dana Rohrabacher. They lost by a much larger margin along the coast farther south in the district of former Rep. Darrell Issa, which includes the San Clemente home where former President Richard Nixon holed up to write his memoirs after resigning from the White House. That district is now represented by Democratic Rep. Mike Levin.

Republicans also lost the inland Orange County district represented by former GOP Rep. Mimi Walters to Rep. Katie Porter, a progressive Democrat who has made a name for herself in the House through her tough questioning of bank CEOs. The GOP losses also include the the state's 39th District in northern Orange County, which is now held by Rep. Gil Cisneros, who took control of the district from retired Republican Rep. Ed Royce.
Following the election last year, Sean Clegg, a California-based Democratic strategist, told CNN that the party is "seeing a realignment with college-educated voters and Orange County is ground zero for this phenomenon."
Rob Stutzman, a California-based Republican strategist, told CNN last fall that, "The cataclysmic losses in Orange County are the manifestation of changing demographics that have been in motion for a couple decades," adding that "(President Donald) Trump has accelerated the political consequences (of) the GOP."

anonymous said...

the GOP Should Worry About Texas
By Sean Trende


I've been saying that for days, Roger... After I made that post, .Lil Scotty then posted his BS about the nazi trump lie......BTW.....wasn't sean a poster here that Lil Scotty proudly claims???? Adding more credence that white male domination is slowly being flushed with trumps stupidity.....

Anonymous said...




Typhus? The plague? California is so progressive, it is becoming medieval...


a tough time for a piss drunk asshole working off a second-hand liver to become homeless.

heh.


C.H. Truth said...

Denny,

Sean was a member and poster of my old CHT site when I was running on a virtual personal server, had my own domain, and several thousand users. That was back when Indy Voter and Johnny Povejsil (Pov's POV) were also providing consistent posts.

Sean did some limited posting in between closing down his old personal blog, and moving over to RCP. But was a frequent commenter along with Gerry Dales and several other projection bloggers. Back when we used to have long comment threads that did not include Cut and Pastes, the term Goatfucker, or repeated demands by Roger that everyone besides him has "lost it".

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://youtu.be/JmaZR8E12bs

"Very fine people on both sides"

Scott A**hole that is absolute proof of what he said.


Watch the Press conference for yourself Scott A**hole.

I DARE YA!!!

Coward!!!!


It is not edited. Speaks for itself.

anonymous said...

Funny...the trips to dayton and el paso are now being called a debacle ......seems about right....all he did was tweet about his foes and never said anything soothing in public as his aids kept him hidden,......asshole...


Now we got ICE arresting chicken gutters on first day of school and taking both parents away and letting young kids fend for themselves....Good plan donnie....more broken families!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Cognitive dissonance since Donald Trump was elected.

https://youtu.be/JmaZR8E12bs

"Very fine people on both sides"

Scott A**hole that is absolute proof of what he said.


Watch the Press conference for yourself Scott A**hole.

I DARE YA!!!

Coward!!!!

It is not edited. Speaks for itself.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger - he said both

"very fine people on both sides"

and

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

Within about 2 minutes of each other.



It's a lie to use the first statement, without acknowledging the second statement... in order to make the false statement that he was referring to the White-Nationalist.



It's not that hard to figure out Roger.

Lying by omission is still a lie.

Anonymous said...

The most divisive President in history has devastated a Republican bastion with the educated women who have supported Trump in the past.



Once a GOP hotbed, Orange County now has more registered Democrats than Republicans



you dumb fuck...

any republican with the means has fled mexifornia.

what the fuck is there to stay for?

come for the homelessness and stay for the typhus? your city streets are slathered in human shit and littled with used syringes. their votes are worthless with 'voter/fraud/ballot harvesting' being legal and they know it.

the new mexifornia demographics will consist of the very rich who can surround themselves will walls, fences and armed security, and the dirt poor - including those illegals who manage to crawl across the border and claw their way to the nearest welfare office. for free housing, free healthcare, free college, free, free, free...

you fucking assholes have destroyed the place.

people haven't flipped from GOP to dem. the republicans are fucking GONE.

goddamn alky. you get dumber by the fucking day.


anonymous said...

Funny Lil Scotty trying to distance yourself from Sean like that....I do recall many times how you used his name to validate this POS blog of yours....Seems kindness only goes so far with you when you are crossed....just like trump, thin skinned and juvenile !!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!! Yep....the goat fucker is an apt description of the asshole of Kansas....I call them the way I see them, just like you being a racist lover supporting trump....

Myballs said...

Both sides of the debate to take down statues you dumb fuck.

Anonymous said...

Watch the Press conference for yourself Scott A**hole.

I DARE YA!!!

Coward!!!!

It is not edited. Speaks for itself.



your pathological LYING speaks for itself. why do you even inhabit this blog if you despise the host so much anyway?


whoever talked you out of killing yourself on facebook deserves a big ol' dope slap.

what a dumbass they were.


anonymous said...


Within about 2 minutes of each other.


BWAAAAAAAAA!!!! That is fucking Hysterical there sport.....keep slurping, you can't get much lower than a racist and a nazi apologist......BTW....Most interpret trumps words like Roger.....only assholes and the retarded follow yours.....LOLOLOLOL

C.H. Truth said...

There are a ton of people, Roger... like historians who do not approve of our historical landmarks being torn down because they offend people.

How is that any different than Christians getting together and burning books that "offend" them?

The fact is that we have a history. Every country has a history. Some of it good and some of it bad. There is no reason to pretend that there was no bad, or to hide it away, or to destroy the memories, or to burn the books.

That is simply a theory that many, many people have... and those are not necessarily "bad people" as you might like to believe. There are many "good people" who have "good reasons" for wanting to preserve our historical monuments.

Anonymous said...

Roger Amick said...

https://youtu.be/JmaZR8E12bs



i've just watched your cnbc video alky.

you are so fucking stupid, such a fucking imbecile, such a fucking moron, that you managed to refute YOUR OWN argument.

you simply don't possess the ability to comprehend what's on that video.


you don't understand what was said, you don't understand the context, you don't understand the circumstances, you don't understand ANY of it.

you could quite possibly the most TDS affected person west of the rockies, alky.



anonymous said...

ow is that any different than Christians getting together and burning books that "offend" them?

You mean like how gays offend you and bakers?????? Sorry sport, your hole is getting deeper with every inane post...The fact we historically hate gays does not negate the fact they have rights you want to take away,....Byzantine here we come!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Funny Lil Scotty trying to distance yourself from Sean like that....I do recall many times how you used his name to validate this POS blog of yours...

I don't distance myself from Sean Trende. I still email back and forth with him from time to time and message through twitter. He's still a go to read for me, and his opinions are generally well thought out and generally pretty accurate.

Where I create distance, Denny...

is to distance what the old CHT blog was, when I was running my own blogging software, and had my own VPS, and had thousands of members, and numerous front page posters.

from this particular Blogspot blog, which is free blogging software, a blogspot domain, and which has been driven down to a few thousand visitors a week, and is completely tarnished by the childish behavior of many of the commenters (Roger, James, and the guy who calls everyone a goat fucker).

I am sometimes lucky "I" still want to come comment on my own blog given the aptitude of some of you.

Anonymous said...



even black historians understand the value of leaving statues in place -

Professor Hayter was appointed by Richmond's Mayor to the commission that's going to make recommendations on what should happen on Monument Avenue.

Julian Hayter: There are 75 million people in the south who are the descendants of-- Confederate soldiers. And who I am to tell them that-- they cannot celebrate their ancestor in a particular way? But I also have ancestors who were the victims of the slave system, and I see no reason why we can't find a usable way to tell two stories, or tell multiple stories

Anderson Cooper: That tell the truth.

Julian Hayter: Not a romanticized version of the truth. where people are trying to absolve themselves-- from the deep inhumanities of-- of what the Confederacy stood for, but people who are willing to face down history for what it is in-- in all its ugliness, and all its beauty.

Anderson Cooper: do you believe the statue should be removed?

Julian Hayter: No. I'm a historian, and-- I think that the statues should stay with a-- footnote of epic proportions.

Anderson Cooper: Essentially you're suggesting

Julian Hayter: I'm suggesting we do a little bit of historical jujutsu. I'm-- right? I'm suggesting we use the scale and grandeur of those monuments against themselves. I think we lack imagination when we talk about memorials. It's all or nothin'. It's leave 'em this way, or tear 'em down. As if there's nothin' in between that we could do to tell a more enriching story about American history.

Historians call it recontextualization, the addition of signs or markers with information about when and why the statues were built to help people see old monuments in a new light.

Anderson Cooper: So, you'd like to see signs or placards or historical--

Julian Hayter: Anywhere--

Anderson Cooper: Lessons somewhere--

Julian Hayter: Anywhere around here, right.

Julian Hayter: --around here. Perhaps even on this sidewalk.

Anderson Cooper: So that as people approach the statue--

Julian Hayter: They can read the story of--

Anderson Cooper: And they can understand the context--

Julian Hayter: Absolutely.

Anderson Cooper: --in-- in which it was built--

Julian Hayter: Absolutely.

Anderson Cooper: --and the reason it was built.

Julian Hayter: Yep you could have-- a glass placard here and etched into that glass placard would be a story. And then when you look through it, you can still see the Lee monument, but you see it through the lens of a more accurate historical depiction.

Last year in a poll about Monument Avenue, more Richmond area residents said they preferred some form of recontextualization, over keeping the statues as they are or removing them.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-the-history-and-future-of-confederate-monuments/


if you're triggered by them your a moron and an emotional infant.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

We agree somewhat on historical monuments. But given the fact that we were a nation that designated African people to be 3/5 of a person. Your side lost the Civil war.

Nobody is recommending burning the Bible.

We both know African Americans, and most of them are offended by the statues of Generals from the Confederate states who tried to keep slavery legal. They were not good people.

We are not censoring history books.

The people who were defending the statues were not fine people. No more Jews!

But monuments to defenders of slavery should not be on public property!

anonymous said...

don't distance myself from Sean Trende.


You just did with your last screed....words have meanings even though you say they don't!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!! And who gives a fuck about your own VPS....another attempt at obfuscation.....idiot... thousands of poster???? Yeah, like trumps crowds are always bigger....delusional.....the few thousand visitors is again bullshit....it is site views, not visitors!!!!...Like overtime I click a page it counts.....sorry sport you are full of shit again!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Roger...

My side won the Civil War. Lincoln and the north were all Republicans!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

childish behavior of many of the commenters like rrb who has said that beaners should be shot down on the border and leave them to rot and discourage more beaners to seek asylum from gangs.

anonymous said...

My side won the Civil War. Lincoln and the north were all Republicans!


You sound as fucking stupid as the goat fucking asshole with that.....BTW....having pointed out the north was all republicans.....what happened to the south and how wonderful the states of MS, AL, LA, AR have turned out and get more federal aid than they paid in than the populated north!!!! Yeah, you fucking won the idiot prize..

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Abraham Lincoln would be rolling in his grave.

You know how the Republicans got control of the southern states! Richard Nixon turned them to the Republican side. The Dixiecrats changed parties and more often, died of old age.

You would have been a Democrat in 1861.

Devinn Smart said...

@Iamdevinnsmart

Back in 2014 when I supported Obama, I was NEVER called anything derogatory by conservatives.

But when I started supporting President @realDonaldTrump in 2016, I was called a “coon”, “Uncle Tom”, “House nigger” etc

It's liberals who are the true racists!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Given the current political view of things I could be wrong, but I think that the Democrats are looking for the best candidate to be Donald Trump. Not support Medicare for all.

You sound like your hero Joseph McCarthy, in your persistent claim that the Democrats are socialist aka Communists. Your side has been trying to destroy Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid entitlements.

George W Bush left office with a 27% approval rating because he tried to privatize Social Security.

The right candidate will be able to defeat Trump and the Republican majority in the Senate.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If he gets his way, we might be facing inflation similar to the Carter Presidency.

President Donald Trump on Thursday called on the Federal Reserve to take steps to weaken the U.S. dollar — a move that would make American exports more competitive in world markets while increasing prices on imported goods.

"As your President, one would think that I would be thrilled with our very strong dollar. I am not!," Trump wrote in a series of tweets. "The Fed’s high interest rate level, in comparison to other countries, is keeping the dollar high, making it more difficult for our great manufacturers like Caterpillar, Boeing ... John Deere, our car companies, & others, to compete on a level playing field."

Trump's comment break with a long tradition of presidents expressing public support for a strong dollar, which helps keep inflation low and has other advantages, even though it hurts exports.

His comments also come just days after Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin formally declared China to be a "currency manipulator" under U.S. law because the People's Bank of China let the yuan weaken beyond 7 to the dollar for the first time in over a decade.

The Treasury Department said it was clear China had acted "to gain an unfair competitive advantage in international trade," a charge that Beijing denied.

Yahoo news

cowardly king obama said...

Roger Amick said...
Given the current political view of things I could be wrong, but I think that the Democrats are looking for the best candidate to be Donald Trump. Not support Medicare for all.


Actually correct on both points, Medicare for all is a loser and the even democrats are seeing the best candidate in 2020 to be President Trump.

Did you finally take something to cure your TDS ?

Caliphate4vr said...

How are getting the largest bas relief in the world off Stone Mountain, Roger?

RockPrincess said...

@Rockprincess818

“We believe in Truth not Facts” - sleepy Joe

And just like clockwork His idiots supporters standing in the parking lot clapped like drunken seals. LOL

LOOKS LIKE said...

LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE WE FINALLY COME TO A TIPPING POINT FOR GUN CONTROL
McConnell Willing to Consider Background Checks
August 8, 2019 at 6:42 pm

“Under intense pressure to take action on gun safety in the wake of two weekend massacres, Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, expressed a new willingness Thursday to consider a measure expanding background checks for all gun purchasers, saying it will be ‘front and center’ in a coming Senate debate on how to respond to gun violence,” the New York Times reports.

“Mr. McConnell, WHO HAS STRONGLY OPPOSED background checks in the past, made his remarks in an interview with a Kentucky radio host, Terry Meiners of WHAS in Louisville. While he did not support a bill requiring background checks, his remarks appeared to underscore the possibility of a shift in the politics of Washington’s divisive gun debate.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/why-are-undocumented-workers-scrutinized-and-not-employers-65661509792


Trump lies that there is no political will for banning assault weapons.

STRONGLY/SOMEWHAT IN FAVOR OF A BAN ON ASSAULT WEAPONS--- 70%
STRONGLY/SOMEWHAT OPPOSED TO A BAN ON ASSAULT WEAPONS---- 24%

TREATED LIKE A ROCK STAR? said...

https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch/wh-aide-trump-greeted-like-a-rock-star-while-visiting-mass-shooting-victims-65582661714

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

He said he was going to unite the country.

Yeah, sure, I guess the ICE raid in Mississippi helped do that a lot.
Children returning home from school to find no parents present.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch/wh-aide-trump-greeted-like-a-rock-star-while-visiting-mass-shooting-victims-65582661714

WOW

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Why are undocumented workers scrutinized and not employers?

NBC News’ Julia Ainsley reports on ICE raids in Mississippi, specifically focusing on workers at poultry plants, and what if any action will be taken against the employers who offered jobs to migrants.

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/why-are-undocumented-workers-scrutinized-and-not-employers-65661509792


The Brickhouse said...

@Brickhouse0733

Democrats violently attack Trump supporters

Threaten to kill Trump supporters

Call Trump supporters racist and NAZI’s

Make movies about hunting and killing Trump supporters

And somehow Democrats have the nerve to say the biggest threat in America is.... Trump supporters

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

If Ch had insisted on the use of temperate language on this blog and discouraged outright provable lying and name calling,it would not have declined to a few thousand.

Caliphate4vr said...

Yeah, pederast you relished driving people away, bragged about.

Emma Kinery said...

@EmmaKinery

Biden slipped and said: “poor kids are just as smart as white kids.” He quickly corrected himself and added “wealthy kids, black kids”

Racist Joe is in the lead - ROFLMFAO !!!

cowardly king obama said...

the "pastor" said : (if CHT had) discouraged outright provable lying

like admitting that Trump never said white supremacists in Charlottesville were “very fine people” but only said there were fine people (on both sides of the statue issue) and specifically said

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

So just this morning the "pastor" engaged in outright provable lying.


full transcript and video were provided for the nth time.

Steph said...

@steph93065

Won Ellis island award in 1989 w/Rosa Parks

Sued his city to integrate his country club

Named MLK'S home place to national historic park

Dated a black woman in 2001

Funded eye surgeries restoring sight to hundreds of Haitians in 2014

Became racist when he ran against a Dem


Who am I ? hint : the "pastor" regularly calls him a proven racist.

Anonymous said...

Lol.

Anonymous said...

So the Three Socialist Stooges of CHT are attempting un-gaff sleepy creepy Joe's Gaff.

"Biden replied, “No, he called all those folks who walked out of that — they were Neo-Nazis shouting hate, their veins bulging.”

“But he said specifically that he was condemning them,” Pollak insisted.

“No, he did not. He said — let’s get this straight — he said there were very fine people in both groups. They were chanting antisemitic slogans, carrying flags,” Biden said, before storming away.

Indeed, President Trump held a press conference after violence broke out in Charlottesville, leaving one dead. “We condem in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred” – “from all sides,” President Trump said."

Facts again slay the Three Socialist Stooges of CHT .

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...


The Washington Post Headline

The Fix Analysis
Trump Tries to Re-write his own History on Charlottesville and ‘Both Sides’

Be sure to watch the video of those marching THAT NIGHT shouting
"Jews Will Not Replace Us."

But of course there were very good people among them.

cowardly king obama said...

fake news and a complicit "pastor"

Those were the people Trump specifically called out, Nazis and white supremacists. He condemned them

STOP BEING A WEASELLY POS.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

After an outcry, Trump on Aug. 13 offered a more forceful denunciation of the white supremacists, neo-Nazis and white nationalists who had rallied in Charlottesville. But then, on Aug. 15, he again returned to the “both sides” commentary, saying there was both “blame” and “very fine people” on each side that day.

Contained in that third set of comments is a quote that Trump supporters, including Trump surrogate Steve Cortes and Breitbart News, have argued is exculpatory, They note that Trump, at one point, explicitly excluded neo-Nazis and white nationalists from his “very fine people” formulation.

Here’s a brief transcript:

REPORTER: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides —

TRUMP: Well, I do think there’s blame, yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. You look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it. And you don’t have any doubt about it either. And, and if you reported it accurately, you would say it.

[CROSSTALK]

TRUMP: Excuse me. You had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group, excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park, from Robert E. Lee to another name.

George Washington was a slave-owner. Was George Washington a slave-owner? So will George Washington now lose his status — are we going to take down — excuse me. Are we going to take down statues of George Washington? How 'bout Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him? Ok, good. Are we going to take down the statue because he was a major slave-owner? Now we’re going to take down his statue. So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history, you’re changing culture. And you had people, and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis or the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, ok? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

QUOTE ENDED

As you can see, Trump does say those groups should be “condemned totally.” This is the basis for what some call the “Charlottesville hoax.”

But it leads to the question: Which “very fine people” was he talking about? The “Unite the Right” rally was partly organized by a well-known white nationalist, Richard Spencer, and included both neo-Nazis and white supremacist groups. Former Ku Klux Klan head David Duke was a scheduled speaker. The cause they were protesting — the removal of Lee’s statue — is one supported by many nonwhite supremacists and nonwhite nationalists, but this rally was clearly not one for your average supporter of Confederate monuments.

And indeed, if you look at what Trump says next, it seems that he totally misconstrues who was actually protesting in Charlottesville. Here’s the next part:

REPORTER: You said the press has treated white nationalists unfairly?

TRUMP: No. There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before, if you look, they were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people — neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest. Because I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit. So I only tell you this, there are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country. A horrible moment. But there are two sides.

QUOTE ENDED

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...


There was indeed another protest the night before the deadly rally, but it could hardly be described as “very quiet” or “fine people.” Here’s how The Post described the scene:

WASHINGTON POST: At their Friday night rally at the University of Virginia, the white nationalists brandished torches and chanted anti-Semitic and Nazi slogans, including “blood and soil” (an English rendering of the Nazi “blut und boden”) and “Jews will not replace us” — all crafted to cast Jews as foreign interlopers who need to be expunged. The attendees proudly displayed giant swastikas and wore shirts emblazoned with quotes from Adolf Hitler. One banner read, “Jews are Satan’s children.”

VICE NEWS has footage of these Friday-night protesters chanting “Jews will not replace us” and “blood and soil.”

For the Trump defense to make any sense, there would have had to be some other group of people who didn’t subscribe to these awful ideals but for some reason decided to march in common cause with neo-Nazis, white supremacists and white nationalists. It’s theoretically possible there might have been some such people there, but you would think they’d quickly become pretty uncomfortable marching next to people chanting “Jews will not replace us” — and people who appeared prepared for violence, even donning helmets.

And even if such people were somehow there, the overwhelming thrust of the rally was clearly not so innocuous. It was organized by well-known figures in those movements, and the turnout seemed to follow accordingly.

Trump does this a lot. He will say something suggestive — in this case, suggestive that the violence in Charlottesville wasn’t really such a clear-cut result of resurgent racism — and then he will later say something else to give himself plausible deniability. But the plausibility here is basically nil. Trump seemed to find something redeeming in a group of protesters that was clearly full of racists. And even though a person in this group actually killed someone, he decided the blame needed to be shared with another group that wasn’t nearly so monolithic or hateful — and didn’t kill anyone.

Oh, and even if you think the media has oversold these comments in some way, Biden’s summary was careful. Here’s how he portrayed it:

BIDEN: Charlottesville is also home to a defining moment for this nation in the last few years. It was there on August of 2017 we saw Klansmen and white supremacists and neo-Nazis come out in the open, their crazed faces illuminated by torches, veins bulging and bearing the fangs of racism. Chanting the same anti-Semitic bile heard across Europe in the ‘30s. And they were met by a courageous group of Americans, and a violent clash ensued and a brave young woman lost her life.

And that’s when we heard the words from the president of the United States that stunned the world and shocked the conscience of this nation. He said there were some very fine people on both sides. Very fine people on both sides?

With those words, the president of the United States assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it. And in that moment, I knew the threat to this nation was unlike any I had ever seen in my lifetime.

QUOTE ENDED

Biden correctly described who was marching that day, and then he correctly characterized Trump’s comments. The idea that he’s launching his campaign on the “Charlottesville hoax” or the “Charlottesville lie” is a rather amazing contention.

cowardly king obama said...

By the way how are Obama and his anti-Semitic friends doing ?

Now that is a true fact.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12sjwk9FBE

cowardly king obama said...

the fucking POS "pastor" continues to post what was already debunked this morning and many times before.

Just because the media and left keep lying doesn't matter.

Trump never said the Nazis and white supremacists were fine people. You trying to twist his actual words is truly despicable.

ROAST IN HELL, "pastor"

Anonymous said...

Nobody roasts in hell for telling the truth.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Public opinion
Public opinion polls showed that reactions to Trump's response were overwhelmingly negative, receiving near universal disapproval from Democrats and only modest support from Republicans. A Washington Post/ABC News national poll of American adults taken in the aftermath of the rally showed that 56% disapproved of Trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville, while only 28% approved. The same survey showed that 83% of Americans said that holding neo-Nazi or white supremacist views is unacceptable, while 9% said holding such views were acceptable.

A Marist Poll of American adults showed that 52% believed that Trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville was "not strong enough". The same poll showed that 4% of Americans said they agreed with the beliefs of white nationalists, with 73% saying they disagreed, 7% having no opinion, and 15% unsure. The poll also showed that 67% believed that the fatal crash should be "investigated as an act of domestic terrorism", while 21% said it should not, and 12% were unsure.

A CBS News poll of American adults indicated that 55% of respondents disapproved of Trump's response, while 33% approved. A roughly similar split indicated that respondents found Trump's description of events to be inaccurate.

cowardly king obama said...

Like I said, ROAST IN HELL

You can call Trump a racist and a Nazi and a Hitler but you are wrong

And you must know that. Despicable.

SPIT.

cowardly king obama said...

You can cite a poll on judgement day, figures.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is almost a guarantee that the President will not be reelected.

Lindsey Graham promises ObamaCare repeal if Trump, Republicans win in 2020 https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/456733-graham-promises-obamacare-repeal-if-trump-republicans-win-in-2020#.XUzguBPF4pY.twitter

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is not what we stand for.

‘Don’t look away’: Videos and images of weeping children and loved ones spread as ICE arrests 680 in Mississippi - https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/dont-look-away-videos-and-images-of-weeping-children-and-loved-ones-spread-as-ice-arrests-680-in-mississippi/

The Republican ICE brown Shirts take the parents from their children and leave the kids alone and crying.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

This is not what we stand for.



THIS is what YOU stand for alky:


An illegal alien with a criminal history was ordered deported from Colorado by an immigration judge last December. In January, he sought refuge in a church and played the sympathy card in the media as if he had an entitlement not to be deported and “separated” from his family. He wasn’t deported. Now, in the ultimate avoidable death, this illegal alien with a long arrest record allegedly killed Sean Buchanan last Friday in a reckless driving crash. Mr. Buchanan is now separated from his wife and five children, permanently, in the grave.

Miguel Ramirez Valiente had the prototypical rap sheet of a criminal alien and a habitual drunk driver, yet he was never deported and was allowed to cycle in and out of the criminal justice system as if he were an American for years. He is a Salvadoran national who has been here illegally for 14 years. Valiente was arrested for reckless endangerment in 2011 and domestic violence in 2016. In 2018, he pleaded guilty to DUI and had his license revoked, according to records obtained by Denver’s Channel 7 news.

According to that local ABC affiliate, “One day before the deadly crash, his probation for that DUI was extended because he had not completed alcohol therapy and community service.” One person who knew him described Valiente as “an alcoholic and an abuser.”



https://www.conservativereview.com/news/criminal-illegal-alien-avoided-deportation-church-now-allegedly-killed-father-five/


Anonymous said...

The Republican ICE brown Shirts take the parents from their children and leave the kids alone and crying.


while a piece of shit drunken illegal beaner leaves Sean Buchanan's five kids alone...

...and crying.



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Anonymous said...




i knew they wouldn't stop at just the confederate statues:

University of Virginia considers removing statue of Revolutionary War officer

https://www.thecollegefix.com/university-of-virginia-considers-removing-statue-of-revolutionary-war-officer/


anonymous said...

i knew they wouldn't stop at just the confederate statues:

I knew you were an idiot....supporting the south from Northern NY is most amusing.....BWAAAAAAAAAAA

anonymous said...

Blogger rrb said...

Jeremy Boreing


BWAAAAAAAA!!!! Assholes flocking together......so sad!!!!!

anonymous said...

Funny....I thought Lil Scotty was an original .....seems he reads too much breitbart....who is dead....to come up with his ideas for threads....seems breitbart is making lots of noise about trying to spin trump and his good nazi comment.....so sad!!!

Former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday snapped at a reporter from a right-wing outlet who said he misquoted President Trump's statement on white supremacists who clashed with counterprotesters in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017.

Trump’s infamous response — that there were “very fine people on both sides” of the Charlottesville episode — drew widespread outrage among Democrats, Republicans and even members of his administration.

Speaking to reporters at the Iowa State Fair, Biden was accused by Joel Pollak, host of “Breitbart News Tonight” on Sirius XM radio, of misquoting Trump.

Pollak suggested Trump condemned the neo-Nazis who organized the rally.

C.H. Truth said...

Pollak suggested Trump condemned the neo-Nazis who organized the rally.

It's not a suggestion.

It's a fact.

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Even CNN's Jake Tapper admits that President Donald Trump condemned neo-Nazis and white supremacists: “He’s not saying that the neo-Nazis and white supremacists are very fine people”

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