Thursday, September 26, 2019

I guess it depends on who is following the OLC

26 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire defended the intelligence-community whistleblower at a congressional hearing Thursday morning, saying the still-anonymous official “did the right thing.”

"I believe the whistleblower is operating in good faith," Maguire said when asked by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff if the director believed “the whistleblower is a political hack.”

“They couldn’t be in good faith if they were acting as a political hack, could they?” Schiff asked, a reference to President Trump’s characterization of the official whose Aug. 12 letter to the heads of the House and Senate Intelligence committees touched off the probe that is evolving into an impeachment inquiry. Trump has called the person, whose identity he says he does not know, a “partisan whistleblower” and described the complaint as “just another political hack job.”

The complaint against Trump over his repeated calls for Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter was made public on Thursday morning. In it, the unnamed whistleblower cited conversations and details provided by "more than half a dozen U.S. officials,” alleging that Trump is “using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.”

Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire testifies before a House Intelligence Committee hearing on the handling of the whistleblower complaint on Capitol Hill on Sept. 26. (Photo: Leah Millis/Reuters)
Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire testifies before a House Intelligence Committee hearing on the handling of the whistleblower complaint on Capitol Hill on Sept. 26. (Photo: Leah Millis/Reuters)
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“Who is this so-called ‘whistleblower’ who doesn’t know the correct facts,” Trump tweeted Monday. “Is he on our Country’s side. Where does he come from. Is this all about Schiff & the Democrats again after years of being wrong?”

“You don’t have any reason to accuse them of disloyalty to our country or suggest they’re beholden to some other country?” Schiff asked Maguire.

"Sir, absolutely not,” Maguire responded. “I believe the whistleblower followed the steps every step of the way.”

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“Who is this so-called ‘whistleblower’ who doesn’t know the correct facts,” Trump tweeted Monday. “Is he on our Country’s side. Where does he come from. Is this all about Schiff & the Democrats again after years of being wrong?”

“You don’t have any reason to accuse them of disloyalty to our country or suggest they’re beholden to some other country?” Schiff asked Maguire.

"Sir, absolutely not,” Maguire responded. “I believe the whistleblower followed the steps every step of the way.”

C.H. Truth said...

Nice "strawman" question. I don't think anyone has accused him of being a Russian spy. Just a partisan who likely worked with the Democrats "prior" to coming forward with his complaint.


What has become interesting is when you go through this entire process, it seems that these members of the intelligence community are upset because they are not being given access to these telephone conversations. The complaint talks about how the President was covering up the conversation and not allowing anyone to see it.

Now what is ironic is that the intelligence community actually has no authority to review or inspect his telephone conversations with foreign leaders. Those are diplomatic calls and there is no legal reason he has to allow anyone outside of the White House see them.

What has happened is that the President has been moving the transcripts and recording of these phone calls to a double secret probation area where only those who are actually "supposed" to see them have.

he did so because of all of the "leaks".

The funny thing is that this whistle blower is blatantly upset by this and otherwise went around the process with second or third hand information in order to "leak" this call (which is why he got it so wrong).

What this does is simply reinforce that the President is absolutely right to move these conversations off line and prevent those who are not supposed to see them from seeing them (thus reducing he leaks).


Had this guy actually seen the call, he may not have actually filed a complaint.

C.H. Truth said...

Oh... and for the record.

The people who provided this information to the whistle blower likely broke the law in doing so. They provided classified and privileged information to someone not authorized to have it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

We know I’m not a fan of Trump, that being said it’s a really sad day for our country. This administration has so many involved in the latest scandal. We are heading rightfully so to impeachment. If Obama or any other democrat had involved a foreign country like this, you all would be outraged. I am sad and outraged. This is as bad as it gets. It’s not sexual conduct, it’s much worst. God Bless the USA. 🙏🙏👆

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


"Sir, absolutely not,” Maguire responded. “I believe the whistleblower followed the steps every step of the way.”

The acting director said that you are full of shit again and again and again and again and.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Hypocrisy is the Coldheartedtruth and his cognitive dissonance

C.H. Truth said...

Again Roger...

pay attention.

The DNI was being asked if he thought that the whistle blower was some sort of foreign spy and if he concocted this whole thing.

Nobody believes that.

I do believe that this guy wanted to get this out. He probably did everything he could to be "by the books". He probably thought he was doing the right thing.

But at the end of the day he is still a Partisan anti-Trumper who is represented by DNC attorneys, and more likely than not consulted with Democrats prior to releasing his complaint.

He didn't see the phone call because he wasn't authorized to see the phone call. That pissed him off because he is probably one of the people who spent a great deal of time leaking crap that he wasn't supposed to be seeing and everything dried up on him.

So look for the President to ramp up the guard even higher. The people who originally listened in on this call will never listen in on another one. I promise you that.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump Suggests Whistleblower Committed Treason

President Trump expressed disgust with the explosive whistleblower complaint, slamming the intelligence officer and those White House aides who helped him or her as “almost a spy” and suggested it was treason, the Los Angeles Times reports.
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TREASON now sits in the Oval Office.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The DNI should know the answer to this question.


Quigley: "To your knowledge, does [Giuliani] have security clearance?"
Maguire: "I don't know."

Q: What's your understanding Giuliani's role?
Maguire: "My only knowledge of what Mr. Giuliani does ... I get from TV & news media. I am not aware of what he does for the President."

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

"Only ALMOST a spy." says Ch truth in triumph.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

C.H. Truth said...

Roger

In 8 years I disagreed horribly with most of what Obama did. I thought he acted with reckless disregard for the law and overstepped his authority more often than any other President (which is proven by the amount of times his actions were shot down by the courts).

But never once did I call for his impeachment.

Never once did I suggest his constitutional actions as President were criminal because of some lazy partisan idea that you can decide someone else's "corrupt intent".

Have you "really" thought about all of the things that Democrats are now declaring to be illegal actions? How many of them were perfectly okay when Obama was President? Travel Bans, Executive Actions, etc, etc... every time Trump tries to 'undo' an Obama EO with a competing EO people like you say it's illegal. (when in fact every President has the exact same rights under the consitution).


You had 8 years to produce "REAL EXAMPLES" of me calling for impeachment.

You have what the little boy shot at and missed.

So you just "make shit up" like Adam Schiff did today during the hearing.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, you are a Partisan hack.

"Sir, absolutely not,” Maguire responded. “I believe the whistleblower followed the steps every step of the way.”

You said that the broke the law.

You are lying again Scott.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Benghazi $15 million dollar waste of time and taxpayer money.

Lying hypocrisy is your only option to protect the traitor in the White House.

Anonymous said...

Bingo

"The people who provided this information to the whistle blower likely broke the law in doing so. They provided classified and privileged information to someone not authorized to have it."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Pelosi and the Democratic and going forward quickly to impeach President Trump.

They don't want it to take months or even a year.

There are more Republican senators who are attempting to figure out how to get him out of office, because he might drag them down the road to defeat in 2020.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger

I stated that the people who leaked this information to the whistle blower may have broken the law.

Keep up! Jeepers!

C.H. Truth said...

I also stated that the whistle blower appeared to have help and probably consulted with both the Democrats and his attorneys (who are DNC attorneys) prior to doing anything.

So I am quite certain that they believed that they did this "by the books" which is why Democrats seemed so surprised and upset that the complaint wasn't handed back to them as they felt it should have been.

I argued (even before the official explanation came out) that the whistle blower was trying to report on something outside the authority of his job (which was proven true).

That doesn't make it illegal, just outside of his authorization.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

No Monica Lewinsky!


Blow jobs don't matter anymore!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A whistleblower is a person who exposes information or activities that are unlawful, unethical or in violation of a company's policy. Federal whistleblower protection laws and most states' laws make it illegal to retaliate against an employee who reports employer violations or misconduct.

Anonymous said...

Roger, you do realize that Speaker in Name Only Polosi has dine nothing but talk.

"Pelosi and the Democratic and going forward quickly to impeach President Trump. "

Talk is all your team does.

C.H. Truth said...

A whistleblower is a person who exposes information or activities that are unlawful, unethical or in violation of a company's policy.

Sure... and this guy worked for the CIA - which means that he was legally able to expose information or activities within the CIA that are unlawful, unethical, and in violation of CIA policy.

The President isn't part of the CIA, and his diplomatic calls to foreign leaders are not part of the CIA's oversight. More to the point, the whistle blower had no first hand knowledge of anything.


So what part of this do you not understand?

Please explain to us your confusion?

C.H. Truth said...

and please Roger...

Enough with the fake condemnation of all of this.

I want to really understand what part of the OLC ruling on this subject confuses you?

Anonymous said...




So what part of this do you not understand?


with 95% of his posts being copy/pastes and the remainder being "lewinsky!" whateverthefuck, i'd say it's a sure bet he understands exactly NONE of it.

the dumb fuck's TDS is so bad, every one of these "WE REALLY GOT HIM THIS TIME!!!11!" trump takedown maneuvers is more ridiculous than the last, and as he's shown us, he falls for each and every one of them.

no sane individual thinks that trump broke any law.

no sane individual puts any stock in this TDS-afflicted whistleblower who's peddling third hand hearsay.

no sane individual believes in anything coming from house democrats on this or fucking ANYTHING anymore.

and no sane individual believes that trump has a snowball's chance in hell of being impeached.

you're trying to converse with an individual who almost lost his life to alcoholism, and managed to lose practically everything else to a searing, white-light, heat of 1000 suns blinding hatred of donald trump.

Anonymous said...

which means that he was legally able to expose information or activities within the CIA that are unlawful, unethical, and in violation of CIA policy.



Still making shit up you dumb fuck!!!!!!! Another lie that fits your narrative that trump is not a treasonous buffoon like he thinks...>So sad once again Lil Scotty makes up his own set of rules to show how biased and fucking stupid he is as he again swallows trumps little white dick with gusto!!!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

Well Denny...

If I "made them up" why did the DNI use the same reasoning and why did the OLC also agree? Are you saying that the Office of Legal Counsel (that Mueller used as an excuse to create Volume II of his report) is no longer a valid authority on the law?