Saturday, September 28, 2019

Trump more popular than Obama?

Well nobody is going to accuse Nate Silver of conservative slant!

39 comments:

Commonsense said...

Yeah, wonder why. Could it be the Democrats overplayed their hand?


@blueboxdave

Nothing makes the idea of impeaching Trump seem more politically motivated and ridiculous than tying it to impeaching Kavanaugh.

@ewarreb
I still believe Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. And like the man who appointed him, Brett Kavanaugh should be impeached.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Yes, and at that point Ch was saying that any president whose polls were that low at this time into their presidency had little chance for reelection.

Didn't prove true for Obama. Will probably prove true for Trump.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Do Republicans Condone Trump’s Actions?

Dan Balz: “Democrats will have to make the case as to why they think the president should be impeached and removed from office and try to persuade the public why that step is necessary, if that is where their work leads. But Republicans cannot hide from this, even if they regard impeachment as unwarranted.

“Right now, through their collective silence, Republicans are telling the American people they either tolerate or condone the president’s actions. The longer they remain silent, the more they contribute to normalizing behavior by the president that is far beyond past standards.”

Anonymous said...

The longer they remain silent, the more they contribute to normalizing behavior by the president that is far beyond past standards.”

No one has ever investigated Biden/obama in the past, that must be the standard. how much did they get paid by Russia, Ukrain,China on aND on

Anonymous said...

how much does obama have now - I heard over 200 million, Clintons much more,bidens tens of milliuons. how much dou thse people need.

Myballs said...

Trump has created jobs, brought back manufacturing, raised wages, kept us out of war, worked to denuclearize north Korea and made the us energy independent. You bet I condone his actions.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

.1% approval rating over Obama.

Do you realize that there is a margin for error.

You have grasping at straws!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The President does not create jobs. When we were adding hundreds of thousand jobs during the Obama administration, you gave him zero credit!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Details of Donald Trump’s calls with foreign leaders 'often concealed'

The White House severely restricted distribution of memos detailing President Donald Trump's calls with foreign leaders, including Russia's Vladimir Putin and Saudi Arabia's Mohammed bin Salman, after embarrassing leaks of his conversations early in his tenure, a former White House official said.

The White House's handling of Mr Trump's calls with foreign leaders is at the heart of House Democrats' impeachment inquiry.

A whistleblower alleges the White House tried to "lock down" Mr Trump's July 25 phone call with Ukraine's new president because officials were worried about his request for help investigating his Democratic rival Joe Biden.

The anonymous whistleblower alleges the White House also tried to cover up the content of other calls by moving memos on to a highly classified computer system.

Nancy Pelosi

@SpeakerPelosi
It doesn’t get more serious than this. It is a betrayal of his oath of office for President Trump to pressure a foreign country to interfere in our elections. And yet that is exactly what @realDonaldTrump did. #TruthExposed

The former White House official acknowledged other calls were concealed, while casting the decision as part of an effort to minimise leaks, not an attempt to hide improper discussions.

The White House was beset by leaks of highly sensitive information in the early days of Mr Trump's presidency. He was particularly enraged by leaks that disclosed tough conversations with the leader of Mexico on paying for a border wall and with Australia on abiding by an Obama administration deal on asylum seekers.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

And yet, unfortunately the economy is showing signs of weakness.

And the President, is criticizing the very people who he appointed!!!

Myballs said...

Let's remember something. VP pence is a Midwest conservative. Trump spent most of his adult life a NYC democrat. House dems want to remove Trump. That would make president Pence. Dems might want to be careful of what they wish for.

Myballs said...

It's showing far more signs of strength. Blacks and Hispanics are supporting Trump for it. Unions too for that matter.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The President of Mexico, actually laughed at the President for claiming he was not going to get Mexico to pay for his wall!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Where do you pull that shit out of?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY
Trump blasts 'SAVAGES' — Ocasio-Cortez, three other women of color,

President Donald Trump blasted six members of the House of Representatives as "savages" on Saturday morning.

"Savages" began to trend on Twitter following the president's post, which comes amid an impeachment inquiry over his dealings with Ukraine.

Some Twitter users pointed out that Trump's latest broadside against Democrats focused on four women of color as well as the two heads of committees helping to lead the impeachment inquiry — Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York, who chairs the Judiciary Committee and Adam Schiff of California, who leads the Intelligence Committee.

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Can you imagine if these Do Nothing Democrat Savages, people like Nadler, Schiff, AOC Plus 3, and many more, had a Republican Party who would have done to Obama what the Do Nothings are doing to me. Oh well, maybe next time!

"AOC plus 3" apparently refers to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, who is of Puerto Rican heritage, and the three other members of the so-called "squad" of progressive congresswomen: Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, an immigrant from Somalia; Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, who is black; and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, who is of Palestinian descent.

The three are among at least 225 House Democrats who now support some type of impeachment action.

Anonymous said...

Alky, Denise and Jane so wrong . Can they learn?

Never. I feel sorry for them so dependent upon today's tax payer for their daily bread.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Union members voted against Hillary Clinton, if the Democrats get a candidate who doesn't push people away, like Clinton, the African American voters will turnout in record numbers.

The same thing stands out is the white suburban, educated women. And some of the males too.

Remember that approximately 72,000 votes in three states swung the electoral college to elected President Trump.

#impeachment is a wild card.

Commonsense said...

The Union members voted against Hillary Clinton, if the Democrats get a candidate who doesn't push people away, like Clinton, the African American voters will turnout

And Cory Booker double down by calling them despicable instead of deplorable. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Commonsense said...

The well being of the country is exactly what Donald Trump delivered. So if you think people are going to give that up you got another think coming.

Anonymous said...

Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
Alky, Denise and Jane so wrong . Can they learn?


The goat fucking asshole has nothing to do but repeat this bullshit on all threads....>Why are you such dumb fuck??????

Anonymous said...

Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
Alky, Denise and Jane so wrong . Can they learn?


The goat fucking asshole has nothing to do but repeat this bullshit on all threads....>Why are you such dumb fuck??????

Commonsense said...

Denny could not double tap on "publish".

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Having trouble with my machine.....keep getting error message which double posts things....sorry you are such an intolerant asshole!!!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!!

Myballs said...

Trump's policies did create jobs. FT, permanent and manufacturing jobs. Obama's policies forced businesses to create PT, temp and contract jobs.

And I get this shit from business periodicals.

Anonymous said...

1954 called

"Having trouble with my machine"

call Biden at 303, 0 03

Anonymous said...

Alky praying Again , for a US Economic Depression again US Citizens . What kind of low life evicted asshole wants that kind of pain ?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Why We Don’t Need To Debate ‘High Crimes And Misdemeanors’ For A Trump Impeachment

Trump’s interactions with Ukraine’s president clearly fit the definition of bribery.

Let’s make this real simple. The impeachment clause of the Constitution describes three major assaults on the state as reasons for Congress to remove a president: “treason, BRIBERY, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

In terms of Trump’s interactions with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, there is little need to engage in a debate over what constitutes “high crimes and misdemeanors.” Instead, they clearly fit the definition of bribery.

“[B]ribery may mean the taking as well as the giving of a bribe,” Charles Black, the late law professor, wrote in “Impeachment: A Handbook,” the definitive legal interpretation of impeachment for the past 45 years.

In this case, Trump appears to have used the power of his office to extort a foreign country (Ukraine) by twisting the good relations between the two and the military aid provided by the U.S. — things the Ukrainian government is dependent upon — into a bribe in exchange for a personal favor for Trump going into the 2020 election.

That the actions of Trump and his consigliere, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, were an attempt to extort the Ukrainian government is clear from the whistleblower complaint and the summary of Trump’s July 25 call with Zelensky.

After Zelensky was elected but before he was inaugurated, Trump and Giuliani (whom Zelensky knew was acting on behalf of Trump) began to threaten the good relations between the two countries. For months, Giuliani made it clear in public statements that Zelensky’s administration must open investigations into former Vice President Joe Biden and the 2016 Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee’s servers:

In May, Giuliani canceled a planned trip to Ukraine — because, he claimed, Zelensky was “surrounded by enemies of the president ... and of the United States.”

Zelensky had requested that Vice President Mike Pence attend his inauguration in Ukraine on May 20 but “on or around” May 14, according to the whistleblower, “the President instructed Vice President Pence to cancel his planned travel.” Secretary of Energy Rick Perry led the U.S. delegation to Zelensky’s inauguration instead of Pence.

Around the time of Pence’s canceled trip, it was “made clear” to the officials who informed the whistleblower’s complaint “that the President did not want to meet with Mr. Zelenskyy until he saw how Zelenskyy ‘chose to act’ in office.” (The complaint uses a different transliteration of Zelensky.)

Also in the middle of May, the whistleblower was informed by “multiple U.S. officials” that “Ukrainian leadership was led to believe that a meeting or phone call between the President and President Zelenskyy would depend on whether Zelenskyy showed willingness to ‘play ball’ on the issues” raised publicly by Giuliani (that is, opening investigations to help Trump’s reelection).

Throughout June, Giuliani continued to insist that Zelensky open investigations into Biden and the circumstances of the Russian hacking of the DNC in 2016.

“New Pres of Ukraine still silent on investigation of Ukrainian interference in 2016 and alleged Biden bribery of Poroshenko,” Giuliani tweeted on June 21. “Time for leadership to investigate both if you want to purge how Ukraine was abused by Hillary and Clinton people.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...



continued
Then, in early July, Trump ordered all government agencies “to suspend all U.S. security assistance to Ukraine,” according to the whistleblower complaint. The Office of Management and Budget sent out its first message to other agencies on July 18 saying that Trump had ordered the suspension of aid “earlier that month.” A second message reiterating this message was sent to agencies on July 23.

This precipitated the July 25 call between Trump and Zelensky. On the call, Trump told Zelensky that the only country Ukraine could count on for support is the United States, according to the call summary. However, Trump added that the relationship between the U.S. and Ukraine had not been “reciprocal.” Zelensky thanked Trump for U.S. support and said he hoped to purchase more military equipment from the U.S. soon.

“I would like you to do us a favor, though,” Trump replied, before explaining that Zelensky should launch investigations into Biden and the hacking of the DNC’s server in 2016. The word “though” clearly ties the “favor” to Zelensky’s immediately preceding praise for U.S. military support.

The next day, on July 26, OMB sent a third message to agencies reminding them of Trump’s suspension of all U.S. support for Ukraine. No policy rationale was provided, according to the complaint. At the same time, White House lawyers moved the transcript of the call to a classified server.

Although there are gaps in the timeline of Trump and Giuliani’s actions that will be filled by Congress’ impeachment inquiry, what is known shows that Zelensky and his administration felt that they had to open the investigations Trump hoped would help his reelection campaign in order for Ukraine to remain in the good graces of the United States of America.

“[Impeachment] really has to do with whether or not this is compromising the security of the state to advance your personal or political interests,” said Philip Bobbitt, an impeachment scholar and former counsel for Democrats on the Senate Select Committee investigating Iran-Contra. “And it seems to me if all of these charges are true, it’s right down the center line.”

Of course, parsing whether a president should be impeached for bribery isn’t as simple as the fact that bribery is a listed reason for impeachment in the Constitution.

Impeachment, being such a serious act, does not necessarily apply to any and every crime. Therefore, not every act of bribery would constitute an impeachable offense. If the president gave $1,000 to a senator to attend a fundraiser, that might be bribery, but not necessarily worthy of impeachment. Or if the president paid money to get his son into a better private school, that would be a bribe, but should Congress impeach him for it?

An impeachable offense “has in common with treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors AN EFFORT TO SUBVERT THE CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER,” Bobbitt said. “You’re trying to identify the national interests with your personal interest and you’re putting your personal interests AHEAD of the national interest in a way to COMPROMISE the national interest.”

That’s what stands out most in the actions Trump took to extort Ukraine. He used the international standing of the United States and the financial resources of the government as a chip to play to obtain a personal advantage in his coming reelection campaign. He sought to use his office and the machinery of the state to punish his personal enemies.

This is something that Trump’s alleged acts share with the impeachable offenses committed by President Richard Nixon, who resigned rather than be assuredly removed from office via impeachment. Nixon may not have faced impeachment for bribery, but like Trump, he used his office ― and the national security apparatus, in particular ― for personal and political gain.

Rep. Jody Hice said...

@CongressmanHice

Rep. Jody Hice Retweeted Sean Davis
Huge news from @seanmdav.

Incredibly suspicious that the requirement for whistleblower complaints to have first-hand knowledge is removed days before the story breaks.

We need answers!


and well after he "surfaced"----investigate and impeach Schiff and Nadler and Pelosi... Obama Crime Syndicate already in DOJ crosshairs

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Today is day 300 since Jan 20, 2017 where Trump is at one of his properties & 233rd at one of his golf clubs on the taxpayer dime.

Rudy Giuliani said...

@RudyGiuliani

Shouldn’t House Dems be calling someone named Biden and not me? I’m the messenger. Are you only a whistleblower if you allege, even falsely or incorrectly, misconduct about a Repub? What if it involves a Dem selling the VP’s office. See a problem? Where’s Senate or FBI?

Julie Kelly said...

@julie_kelly2

The same news outlets and pundits who eagerly reported illegally-leaked classified information on Mike Flynn and Carter Page (a felony) now are super concerned about the White House’s handling of classified material.

thebradfordfile™ said...

@thebradfordfile

When is a committee on the GOP controlled US Senate going to call Hunter Biden to testify?

Republicans need to grow a pair and starting fighting.

THIS IS WAR.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

????Obama Crime Syndicate. You're crazy.

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Anonymous said...

Pres. Trump will be doing systematic data dumps exposing Hillary, Obama, Biden and Kerry.

Your team started this.

We will finish it.

"Say When"

Anonymous said...

Alky praying Again , for a US Economic Depression again US Citizens . What kind of low life evicted asshole wants that kind of pain ?

Anonymous said...

Speaker in Name Only Polosi cancels 2 week recess, right?

The Nation needs to impeach Trump .

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The six committee staff are working very hard to get the subpoenas answered.