Of course, Democrat will tell you this isn't a real legal issue, so the normal rules don't apply. Just like normal laws don't apply, or normal congressional protocol.
Bill Taylor Met With Schiff Aide in Ukraine A Few Days Prior to Leak About Aid https://t.co/Gl0ckIxTsQ— RedState (@RedState) October 25, 2019
The bigger issue for Democrats is their insistence that this is a political process. The only political issue at stake is whether they can convince twenty Republican Senators to vote to impeach the President. Otherwise, it's an exercise in futility. They don't need to get fifty one percent of the public on board, they need to get closer to fifty one percent of Republicans behind them.
This sort of behavior by the Democrats (meeting with potential witnesses or potential complainants prior to their coming out) looks like they are orchestrating something, rather than uncovering something. At the end of the day, appeasing their base while alienating conservatives and Republicans is not going to get it done.
Republican Senators are not going to turn on the President because Democrats and left leaning independents want them to. Both sides will listen to their base, and that is why this is destined to be a stalemate. These sort of actions by Schiff are just creating a larger chasm between the two sides, making said stalemate a foregone conclusion.
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There is no proof of the accusations of collusion. Breitbart News is not a credible source of information, neither is red state.
I read it yesterday afternoon and all they had were second hand accusations.
CH unTRUTH:
The only political issue at stake is whether they can convince twenty Republican Senators to vote to impeach the President. Otherwise, it's an exercise in futility.
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Not if the ongoing testimonies piled upon testimonies convince the American public that the "president" is so corrupt that they take him out at the ballot box regardless of what the GOP dominated Senate does or does not do.
Ivan Pentchoukov of The Epoch Times points out that Thomas Eager, a staffer for the House Intel Committee run by Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) met with Taylor on August 25 in Ukraine and they discussed Ukraine’s interactions with both past administrations and the current, Trump, administration.
Your grasping at straws again.
You refuse to believe anything the Fake News reports from anonymous sources. But you choose to believe Ivan Pentchoukov of The Epoch Times, a Ukrainian, a very corrupt country.
Trump Dismisses Need for Impeachment Team
President Trump dismissed the need for a bolstered group of aides to defend him against impeachment, The Hill reports.
Said Trump: “Here’s the thing. I don’t have teams. Everyone’s talking about teams. I’m the team. I did nothing wrong.”
“He looks for corruption wherever he goes.”
— President Trump, quoted by the Wall Street Journal, talking about his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.
THEN HE WON'T HAVE FAR TO LOOK
Impeachment Panels Subpeona Two Budget Officials
Washington Post: “The panels want Russell Vought, the acting director of the OMB, and Michael Duffey, the agency’s head of national security, to testify early next month. Vought said in a tweet this past week that neither he nor Duffey would testify.”
“At issue is whether the Trump administration withheld nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine as leverage to get it to investigate domestic political rivals.”
Lol@Roger
do you realize what you just described Rog?
"all they had were second hand accusations"
Even if it was true, you have to believe that Schiff and his staffer is part of the deep state conspiracy.
Every single day, you try to convince people that Trump is the only person who can be trusted.
He started his campaign strategy based upon the birther bullshit.
You never called him out on that! Why????
Or maybe the Gold Tower meeting didn't matter, because they were getting dirt on crooked Hillary!!!
Roger
"You want this evil Orange monster to turn the country into a dictatorship."
Care to have a "cut n paste" free discussion on your topic?
"all they had were second hand accusations"
Your hypocrisy is squared and evidence of Trumpism stage four brain cancer!
Geez what a loser you have become.
https://m.theepochtimes.com/author-ivan-pentchoukov
Every single story is in support of the President and he repeatedly posts stories about how the Democrats are trying to overturn the last election.
Protect yourself against fake news. Get real news directly to your phone. Download The Epoch Times app.
This is your source of information on the impeachment investigation?
Scott A**hole has lost his mind.
I had planned to go skiing in Colorado over the holidays, but now that it's walled in I don't know where to go!
True, Roger, for that Colorado Wall is one that you "can't get over and one that you can't go under."
Federal Budget Deficit Continues to Soar
“The U.S. government’s budget deficit ballooned to nearly $1 trillion in 2019, a $205 billion increase from a year earlier, as America’s fiscal imbalance widened for a fourth consecutive year despite a sustained run of economic growth,” the Washington Post reports.
“The country’s worsening fiscal picture runs in sharp contrast to President Trump’s campaign PROMISE to eliminate the federal debt within eight years. Since taking office, Trump has endorsed big spending increases and steered most Republicans to abandon the deficit obsession they held during the Obama administration.”
ANOTHER PROMISE BROKEN
WTF, Roger.
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Roger AmickOctober 25, 2019 at 1:35 PM
"all they had were second hand accusations"
Your hypocrisy is squared and evidence of Trumpism stage four brain cancer!
Geez what a loser you have become"
I quoted you.
Your Raging because I Qouted You.
The Epoch Times
Wikipedia
Nuff said.
WASHINGTON — Dozens of inspectors general across the federal government have signed a letter repudiating the Justice Department's legal opinion that the original complaint by a CIA whistleblower about President Donald Trump's conversation with Ukraine's president did not have to be turned over to Congress.
In a strongly worded statement written by the inspector general of the Justice Department, the inspectors general portrayed the opinion by the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel as dangerously wrong and severely damaging to whistleblower protections.
Dozens of inspectors general across
Well that's the last straw!
I am now officially a brain dead, WaPo NYT reading, angry beyond all recognition, let's tear down society, ready for civil war, Trump hating, Barr hating, McConnell hating, FOX news hating, let's tax the wealthy and give it to Mexican gang members who come here illegally... raging liberal crazy!!!
On second thought... that seems like a lot of work and I would rather just be happy. So I guess I will have to stick with "I don't give a flying fuck about any letters"... and leave it at that!
The Epoch Times is a multi-language newspaper[2] founded in 2000 by John Tang and a group of Chinese Americans associated with the Falun Gong spiritual movement.[3] Though the newspaper has been known for general interest topics with a focus on news about China and its human rights issues, it is becoming known for its support of U.S. President Donald Trump and favorable coverage of right-wing politicians in Europe; a 2019 report showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign itself.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] The newspaper is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD).[7] The group's news sites and YouTube channels are known for spreading conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.[7] For its articles, the publication draws from a network within China, as well as Chinese expatriates living in the West.[11][12][13][14]
Scott A**hole, you have chosen to believe the fake news from a foreign nation to make you believe in the deep state conspiracy theories!!!!!
Goddamn it, what the hell is wrong with you,,,??????
There is a way out of this situation is to back off and take a deep breath and relax for a few minutes.
Nobody is going to tax the wealthy and give it to Mexican gang members who come here illegally!
You are a conservative American citizen. We don't always agree with each other. But look at what this President is doing.
He said that he can do anything he wants. If crooked Hillary Clinton had said that, the day after she was sworn in as President, you would have gone ballistic and supported impeachment hearings immediately.
His own lawyers said that he could walk down 5th Avenue and shoot anymore and not face indictment, because he is the President.
He lies about everything and you know it.
But instead of saying that this isn't right, because they want to overturn the last election. You know better than that!
One more thing that matters more is the judicial system works.
A federal court judge on Friday ordered the Department of Justice to turn over grand jury material referenced in redacted portions of special counsel Robert Mueller's report to the House Judiciary Committee.
Beryl Howell, the chief judge for the Washington, D.C. circuit court, ordered DOJ to turn over the materials by Wednesday, Oct. 30.
"The Department of Justice claims that existing law bars disclosure to the Congress of grand jury information," Howell wrote. "DOJ is wrong."
The judge also found that despite public protestations from the Trump administration that House Democrats have not actually launched a formal impeachment inquiry, one is underway.
Democrats launch new impeachment offensive after White House refuses to cooperate
The White House Counsel's office has refused to cooperate with the inquiry, arguing it's illegitimate because the House didn't hold a formal vote to declare one.
"Even in cases of presidential impeachment, a House resolution has never, in fact, been required to begin an impeachment inquiry," Howell wrote.
The Judiciary Committee "has shown that it needs the grand jury material referenced and cited in the Mueller Report to avoid a possible injustice in the impeachment inquiry," and that the "need for disclosure is greater than the need for continued secrecy."
I have been saying this for days before.
Scott, the judiciary is not going to let the President withhold any information required to investigate the President for high crimes and misdemeanors.
The Constitution has to be protected from this President.
BREAKING: A federal judge just ruled that the Justice Department must turn over the redacted portions of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s grand jury report to the House Judiciary by October 31st.
This is a huge win for transparency.
And now what?
Why don't you think that this is important? Fake News?
Federal deficit increases 26% to $984 billion for fiscal 2019, highest in 7 years.
Welcome back to the lost years!
He also said that the average income for most Americans has increased by $7,000/ year!!
Roger AmickFebruary 1, 2019 at 5:44 AM
His budgets will add $8.3 trillion in four years.
In eight years it will increase by $16.6 trillion"
Additional Signatories:
The Honorable Ann Calvaresi-Barr, Inspector
General, Agency for International
Development
The Honorable Phyllis Fong, Inspector
General, Department of Agriculture
Kevin H. Winters, Inspector General, Amtrak
Hubert Sparks, Inspector General,
Appalachian Regional Commission
Christopher Failla, Inspector General,
Architect of the Capitol
Michael A. Bolton, Inspector General, U.S.
Capitol Police
Christine Ruppert, Acting Deputy Inspector
General, Central Intelligence Agency
The Honorable Peggy Gustafson, Inspector
General, Department of Commerce
Thomas Lehrich, Inspector General, Committee
for Purchase from People who are Blind or
Severely Disabled (Ability One)
A. Roy Lavik, Inspector General,
Commodity Futures Trading Commission
Christopher W. Dentel, Inspector General,
Consumer Product Safety Commission
Kimberly A. Howell, Inspector General,
Corporation for Public Broadcasting
The Honorable Deborah Jeffrey, Inspector
General, Corporation for National and
Community Service
Glenn Fine, Principal Deputy Inspector General
Performing the Duties of the Inspector
General, Department of Defense
Kristi M. Waschull, Inspector General,
Defense Intelligence Agency
Sandra D. Bruce, Deputy Inspector General
Delegated the Duties of the Inspector General
General, Department of Education
Patricia Layfield, Inspector General,
U.S. Election Assistance Commission
The Honorable Teri Donaldson, Inspector
General, Department of Energy
Milton Mayo, Inspector General,
Equal Employment Opportunity
Commission
Jennifer Fain, Acting Inspector
General, Export-Import Bank of the
United States
Wendy Laguarda, Inspector General,
Farm Credit Administration
The Honorable Jay Lerner, Inspector General,
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
Christopher Skinner, Inspector General,
Federal Election Commission
The Honorable Laura S. Wertheimer, Inspector
General, Federal Housing Finance Agency
Dana Rooney, Inspector General,
Federal Labor Relations Authority
Jon Hatfield, Inspector General,
Federal Maritime Commission
Mark Bialek, Inspector General,
Board of Governors of the Federal
Reserve System/Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau
Andrew Katsaros, Inspector General,
Federal Trade Commission
The Honorable Carol F. Ochoa, Inspector
General, General Services Administration
Adam Trzeciak, Inspector General, Government
Accountability Office
Michael P. Leary, Inspector General,
Government Publishing Office
Joanne Chiedi, Acting Inspector General,
Department of Health and Human Services
The Honorable Joseph V. Cuffari, Inspector
General, Department of Homeland
Security
The Honorable Rae Oliver Davis,
Inspector General, Department of Housing
and Urban Development
The Honorable Mark L. Greenblatt, Inspector
General, Department of Interior
Philip M. Heneghan, Inspector General,
U.S. International Trade Commission
The Honorable Scott Dahl, Inspector
General, Department of Labor
Kurt W. Hyde, Inspector General,
Library of Congress
The Honorable Paul K. Martin, Inspector
General, National Aeronautics and Space
Administration
James Springs, Inspector General,
National Archives and Records
Administration
James Hagen, Inspector General,
National Credit Union Administration
Ron Stith, Inspector General,
National Endowment for the Arts
Laura Davis, Inspector General,
National Endowment for the Humanities
Cardell Richardson, Inspector General,
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
David Berry, Inspector General,
National Labor Relations Board
The Honorable Susan S. Gibson, Inspector
General, National Reconnaissance Office
The Honorable Robert P. Storch, Inspector
General, National Security Agency
David C. Lee, Deputy Inspector General
Delegated the Duties of the Inspector General,
Nuclear Regulatory Commission
Norbert Vint, Deputy Inspector General
Performing the Duties of the Inspector
General, Office of Personnel Management
Kathy A. Buller, Inspector General, Peace Corps
Robert Westbrooks, Inspector General, Pension
Benefit Guaranty Corporation
Jack Callender, Inspector General,
Postal Regulatory Commission
Tammy Whitcomb, Inspector General,
U.S. Postal Service
The Honorable Martin J. Dickman,
Inspector General, Railroad Retirement
Board
Carl Hoecker, Inspector General, Securities and
Exchange Commission
The Honorable Hannibal “Mike” Ware, Inspector
General, Small Business Administration
Cathy Helm, Inspector General,
Smithsonian Institution
The Honorable Gail S. Ennis, Inspector General,
Social Security Administration
John F. Sopko, Special Inspector General,
Special Inspector General for Afghanistan
Reconstruction
The Honorable Christy Goldsmith Romero,
Special Inspector General, Special Inspector
General for the Troubled Asset Relief
Program
The Honorable Steve A. Linick, Inspector
General, Department of State
Jill Matthews, Deputy Inspector General
Performing the Duties of the Inspector
General, Tennessee Valley Authority
The Honorable Calvin L. Scovel, III, Inspector
General, Department of Transportation
Richard K. Delmar, Acting Inspector General,
Department of Treasury
The Honorable Michael J. Missal, Inspector
General, Department of Veterans Affairs
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/10/25/doj-opinion-whistleblower-report-057612?__twitter_impression=true
Kput'z shut up
From the day of Obama’s inauguration until this point in his presidency, the Dow Jones industrial average rose 48.5 percent; under Trump, it has risen 35.5 percent. In the same period of time.
Welcome back to the lost years!
When Obama took the polling lead in 2007 the stock market crashed
just yesterday Roger was cry-babying about off topic post.
Yet today here he is, doing it.
it's hilarious to watch the alky go into copy/paste meltdown mode.
you know alky, all you've known since trump was elected is DEFEAT.
AND IT'S GLORIOUS.
so as dumb fuck denny would say -
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!11!
Quoting verbatim Roger's postings upsets him .
"Roger AmickApril 26, 2017 at 9:58 AM
Failed financial state.
Six figure income on defined benefits"
And yet, you got evicted, Suicidal and Clinically Depressed .
Republicans say that tax cuts will pay for themselves. Supply side economics philosophy has been proven incorrect repeatedly.
The U.S. government’s budget deficit ballooned to nearly $1 trillion in 2019, a $205 billion increase from a year earlier, as America’s fiscal imbalance widened for a fourth consecutive year despite a sustained run of economic growth.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Republicans say that tax cuts will pay for themselves. Supply side economics philosophy has been proven incorrect repeatedly.
supply side works just fine alky.
what it cannot outrun is an ever-expanding bloated leviathan of a WELFARE STATE.
from the new deal to the great society all you guys have done is spend, spend, spend, addicting tens of millions to government dependency.
the war on poverty's bill alone is equal to our current national debt.
i want us to keep more of our own hard-earned (not in your case though) money.
simpson-bowles came up with a workable plan to address entitlements. it reigned in spending and demanded austerity in the very programs democrats use to buy votes every two years.
so, when presented with their plan, ol skeetsy say:
"wha??? an give up all dat free shit an shit, yo???"
"fuck dat mothafuckin' shit an shit." "wheah doze 0bamaphones be at an shit? 0bama-phones for everybody an shit!"
and the rest, as they say, is history.
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