What Our Poll Shows About Impeachment Views in 6 Swing States
Take an examination of the battleground states that Democrats almost certainly need to make inroads into in 2020. The New York Times and Siena College, 2018's most accurate pollster, took a poll of voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin and Arizona. These were closest states in the country that cast their electoral votes for Trump in 2016...Just 43% of voters in these six states want to impeach and remove from office at this point. The majority, 53%, do not. This means that the margin for not impeaching and removing Trump in these states (+10 points) is running well ahead of Trump's margin in these states of about 1.5 points. Put another way, impeaching and removing Trump from office in these states is not a popular position.
I honestly believe that the "idea" of holding these hearing is a much more palatable position than actually removing a duly elected President from office less than a year before he runs for reelection. For any impeachment, the general public is going to have a pretty high bar for what it would take to follow through. Obviously the Watergate scandals, and subsequent cover ups where sufficient enough for the public to sour on Nixon. Whereas the witness tampering, perjury, and obstruction charges against Clinton did not make the mark.
It's difficult to see the public (as this moves into the holidays and quite possibly into an election year) feeling comfortable removing a President (this close to an election) based on what are dubious charges that even many Democrats admit do not rise to the level of being "criminal". Regardless of how the left is going to spin this one, prior to Donald Trump becoming President, the overwhelming majority of Americans believed that impeachment was a process to reign in "illegal" behavior by an office holder, rather than a process to punish someone for policies that one side feels are unfair, dubious, or partisan.
I think as this plays out more publicly, you will see more and more Republicans step up and make the argument that what the Democrats are investigating isn't even an impeachable offense. I believe that you will see others argue that whatever the Democrats are accusing him of, cannot be fully proven, because there was no actual follow through on any of the allegations. Lastly, it's still uncertain whether or not the Democrats will provide first hand information that the President made any sort of quid pro quo offer or deal with Zelensky or his high ranking Ukrainian officials. If all they have is accounts from people disconnected from the President himself, that will make many people leery of jumping headfirst into removing the President.
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Speaker in Name Only Polosi lost.
The US Senate force her to hold a vote.
The 24 hour news cycle makes it difficult to be sure if a poll results mean much.
If they were accurate Hillary Clinton would be the President.
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The 24 hour news cycle makes it difficult to be sure if a poll results mean much.
If they were accurate Hillary Clinton would be the President.
thank you captain obvious.
in other news - water is wet, the sun rises in the east, and we're all gonna die someday.
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The only possible way Hillary Clinton can imagine people not liking her is they were clockwork oranged by flashing videos on the dark web
No I'm serious she really fucking thinks that. Can you imagine?!?!? She's gone completely fucking insane.
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Roger what does the hovel you live in rent for a month?
Public Impeachment Hearings Will Start Soon
Speaker Nancy Pelosi put out a “Dear Colleague” letter outlining House Democrats’ next steps in the impeachment inquiry, including public hearings.
The White House has argued the inquiry was not valid without a vote and therefore did not have to comply with subpoenas. Although Pelosi writes that argument has no merit, Democrats will take a vote on Thursday that will formalize procedures for the next phase of the impeachment inquiry.
It Looks Like Pence Is Inching Away from Trump
(Update: WaPo is on the story, too)
Pence Not Willing to Defend Trump on Quid Pro Quo
Vice President Mike Pence appeared on Face the Nation yesterday to mostly talk about the operation targeting Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
But buried at the end of the conversation was a question about whether he knew there was a quid pro quo to release military aid to Ukraine in return for a pledge to investigate Joe Biden.
Pence’s answer was painfully careful and limited to the phone call Trump had with Ukraine President Zelensky. He ignored other evidence such as the testimony of witnesses like Ukraine envoy Bill Taylor and ambassador Gordon Sondland who claimed there was an explicit linking of the two actions.
Pence being an actual politician (unlike Trump, who just plays one on TV) knows when and how not to answer a question, even though Margaret Brennan tried several different ways.
Political Wire concludes:
While the exchange doesn’t prove Pence knew of an explicit quid pro quo, his answers suggest he’s NOT WILLING TO FULLY DEFEND Trump on the matter.
That’s pretty significant and could be taken as a signal to those GOP senators who are reportedly “anxious and adrift” in their defense of Trump.
what nonsense .
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