Wednesday, November 20, 2019

From +9 to +3.8 since the hearings started

Idea that the impeachment hearings would solidify support was wrong!



Keep in mind that Democrats went to public hearings in part to shore up support. Everyone instinctively knows that you cannot remove a duly elected President based entirely on partisan support (even Pelosi knows that). The ONLY way this was successful for Democrats was for these hearings to push the needle in their favor and start to pick up right leaning independents, as well as some Republicans.

But In spite of controlling all aspects of these hearings and in spite of calling only those witnesses and asking only the questions that they want to ask and in spite of withholding exculpatory evidence and in spite of not allowing the President to cross examine or call witnesses... they have still managed to lose (not gain) support.

This comes from two fundamental issues. The first is that the allegations are primarily smoke and mirrors. There isn't really a concrete issue that the general public can look at. The Democrats can demand that certain actions constitute "bribery" but there really isn't a good foundation for this belief (never before has setting conditions for aid argued to be bribery). People want to be able to easily understand a crime, especially when it comes to removing a President from office for the first time "ever". 

The second issue is that the Democrats have simply not been able to push forward their case. Witness after witness after witness has provided the same basic testimony. They complain about the President's foreign policy. They provide some hearsay information. They demand that what they believe happened was "inappropriate". But once each witness is questioned directly as to whether or not they witnessed any crime... they all say that they have not.

Hard to impeach a President when nobody you call to the stand will testify that they have witnessed any crimes.

21 comments:

caliphate4vr said...

Amid months of speculation, Stacey Abrams said that she would be “happy” to run for vice president alongside the Democratic nominee.

Seeing Tank Abrams and run in the same sentence cracks me up

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

caliphate4vr said...

What a focking prick

anonymous said...

aliphate4vr said...
What a focking prick

Pricks are your wheel house asshole....!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Anonymous said...

😁Seeing Tank Abrams and run in the same sentence cracks me up😊

Anonymous said...

Not on the Radar is the Dwarf Debate tonight.

Myballs said...

Some in the military are now calling vindman Frank Burns. Lol.

Anonymous said...

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html

KYIV. Nov 20 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Ukrainian members of parliament have demanded the presidents of Ukraine and the United States, Volodymyr Zelensky and Donald Trump, investigate suspicions of the legalization of $7.4 billion by the "family" of ex-President Viktor Yanukovych through the American investment fund Franklin Templeton Investments, which they said has ties to the U.S. Democratic Party.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Rudi, how does it feel to be under the bus?

cowardly king obama said...

I'm sure Rudi is doing just fine, looks like the dems are having ANOTHER bad day though

ROFLMFAO !!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Another BAD day? After yesterday's absolute FIASCO for the GOP?

cowardly king obama said...

From +9 to +3.8 since the hearings started

Idea that the impeachment hearings would solidify support was wrong!



The THREAD says it all

Guess you live in a fantasy world or as CHT may say are inflicted with cognitive dissonance.

a couple of more days like yesterday and Schiff would have his bug eyes pop out.

ROFLMFAO !!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Sondland: Trump kept telling us to talk to Rudi and when we did, Rudi kept making it absolutely clear to all of us that the Ukrainians wouldn't get a White House visit or financial military assistance UNLESS they investigate 2016 and Biden.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Realclearpolitics
Trump is still at -9.3% and that includes the ridiculous Rasmussen.

Rudy Giuliani said...

@RudyGiuliani

I came into this at Volker’s request. Sondland is speculating based on VERY little contact. I never met him and had very few calls with him, mostly with Volker.

Volker testified I answered their questions and described them as my opinions, NOT demands. I.E., no quid pro quo!

During the July 24 conversation @realDonaldTrump agrees to a meeting with Pres. Zelensky without requiring an investigation, any discussion of military aid or any condition whatsoever.

This record shows definitively no quid pro quo, which is the same as no bribery. END OF CASE!

cowardly king obama said...

Looks like the bus ran over the "pastor" and he just doesn't know it.

Looking at his "quotes" I can see he has a lot of Schiff in him.

ROFLMFAO !!!

Anonymous said...

Jane , that bus hit you hard.

You might want to put some ice on that.

Anonymous said...

Mrs. Sondland your husband is a lying POS.

What story of the Three Stories he has put there shall we believe.

Anonymous said...

500,000 people in .CA are losing power again.

People are leaving that State in record numbers.

Mark Meadows said...

@RepMarkMeadows

Wow.

@RepMikeTurner: "Mr. Sondland, let's be clear: no one on this planet—not Donald Trump, Rudy Guiliani, Mick Mulvaney, Mike Pompeo—no one told you aid was tied to political investigations, is that correct."

Gordon Sondland: "That's correct."

Game over.


funny, looks nothing like the lying "pastor's" quote. Who to believe ?

Anonymous said...

Jane and Alky are Nazi Party Members they believe Palsy/Schitt propaganda .