.@Jim_Jordan: You didn’t listen in on President Trump & Zelensky’s call?— Kevin McCarthy (@GOPLeader) November 13, 2019
Taylor: I did not.
Jordan: You’ve never talked with Chief of Staff Mulvaney?
Taylor: I never did.
Jordan: You’ve never met the President?
Taylor: That’s correct.
Jordan: And you’re their star witness. pic.twitter.com/ebZ6jsEjeB
Wednesday, November 13, 2019
OOOOOOOUUUUUCCCCCCHHHH!!!!!
OH MY GOD!!! THAT HAD TO HURT!!!
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George Kent, just now:
“I do not believe the U.S. should ask other countries to engage in selective, politically associated investigations or prosecutions against opponents of those in power, because such selective actions undermine the rule of law regardless of the country."
He decided being the star witness
The President will not allow people who have been involved directly to testify under oath.
Since day one, our inquiry has been about the rule of law.
Today's witnesses exemplify the very best of America, putting country over politics and coming forward after witnessing wrongdoing.
We will continue to follow the facts, wherever they may lead. #NoOneIsAboveTheLaw
Amb. Taylor, a West Point graduate and Vietnam Veteran, just testified under oath that the President of the United States "cares more about the investigations of Biden" than he does Ukraine.
Let that sink in. #DefendOurDemocracy https://t.co/QGcMxTNhML
BWWAAAAAAA!!!! LOLOLOL you Lil Scotty.....the whole defense they R's can put up, especially Jordan the OSU coach who knew nothing....IS IT'S HEARSAY!!!!!!!!! The fish stinks from the head down.....nothing in any trump organization went on with out his direction.....If that is your ouch......he be fucked like you!!!!!!!
Jim Jordan is combative, arrogant, and insulting as usual. If only Jordan had been so angry and proactive when it came to fighting the sexual abuse of boys and young men at Ohio State University. No, he saved his indignant nonsense to attack an American patriot, Ambassador Taylor
Roger, I hope this is not all your team has.
A disagreement between the President and his employees over Policy.
Scott A**hole believes a child abuser.
Did he report the abuse of boys and young men at Ohio State University. No,
"after witnessing wrongdoing"
Do tell us what they "witnessed", because they stated they didn't witness a thing , they were told stuff.
Obviously the Democrats are saving their big guns till later in the proceedings... so far all they have had is leaking squirt guns that won't shoot straight!
and his employees over Policy.
He does not have employees you dumb goat fucking idiot!!!! They are all employees of the People!!!!!! God no wonder why you are a trump sucker!!!!!
now Roger, why not keep to the actual testimony .
The Republican argument is a difference of opinion between diplomats and the President, but that's another attempt to distract attention from the bribery and extortion act, which are crimes and misdemeanor under the law.
Dennis, The State Department works for whom?
Leaking squirt guns like your atrophied dick, Lil Scotty......the best defense you have so far is NOTHING!!!!! It is not a court of law assholel, it is a political process......the people will decide!!!!!!
so far Roger is very distracted.
Under questioning from Adam Schiff, Taylor said that Zelensky and his aides believed it was a bad idea to interfere in U.S. elections, but that the Ukrainian president was still planning to go on CNN to announce the investigations Trump wanted.
Asked if they are "Never Trumpers," as the president has alleged, Taylor said that he is not. Kent said he is a career diplomat who has carried out the policies of both Democratic and Republican presidents.
, The State Department works for whom?
The tax payers of the United States.....any questions you dumb fuck??????
do you have closed caption on, on the communal TV roger?
you are wrong, thanks for playing
The President commands those that work in the State Department.
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Bribery refers to the offering, giving, soliciting, or receiving of any item of value as a means of influencing the actions of an individual holding a public or legal duty. This type of action results in matters that should be handled objectively being handled in a manner best suiting the private interests of the decision maker. Bribery constitutes a crime and both the offeror and the recipient can be criminally charged.
Proof of bribery requires demonstrating a “quid pro quo” relationship in which the recipient directly alters behavior in exchange for the gift. Because the relationship does not occur directly enough, campaign donations from corporations or individuals to political candidates do not constitute bribery. Another element of proving bribery includes proving intent to influence the discharging of another’s official duties. Some statutes also require proof that both parties understand and agree to the arrangement. Attempts to bribe exist at common law and under the Model Penal Code, and often, the punishment for attempted bribery and completed bribery are identical. Solicitation of a bribe also constitutes a crime and is completed regardless of whether the solicitation results in the receipt of a valuable gift.
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Yawn
Last week's outrage is as full of shit as the rest have been
Attorney General William P. Barr said Wednesday that he did not remember President Trump ever asking him to hold a news conference declaring the commander in chief broke no laws in a controversial phone call with the leader of Ukraine, but acknowledged discussions with the White House on how his department would communicate to the media about the matter.
At an event in Memphis about a Justice Department crackdown on gun violence, a reporter inquired, “Mr. Attorney General, did the president ask you to publicly defend him regarding the Ukrainian call, and if so, why did you not want to do that?”
“If you’re talking about press reports that he asked me to have a news conference, the fact is, I don’t remember any such request,” Barr said. “In fact, my recollection is that I told the White House that we would do what we would normally do, and that is issue a press statement, which we did, and that was not an issue. There was no pushback on that.”
Schwing and another miss
nsasDemocrat said...
The President commands those that work
Like the king he wants to be you dumb fuck???? Still arguing who they work for and that's what you come up with???? Yep, breathe deeply........lBWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Last week's outrage is as full of shit as the rest have been
Of course he doesn't remember shit you dumb fucking asshole.....none of trumps boys remember anything!!!!!!! Get selling, mama needs new panties......BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Jordan is desperate
Jordan tirade on not knowing the whistleblower....how sad all the points have been confirmed....the facts are against trump!!!! Rep Welch after the jordan BS invited the guy who started the mess to testify .....trump......lots of laughter!!!!!
Scott A**hole House spent an entire day flailing and screeching, which was a strategy for whipping up attention and drama, to distract attention from the bribery allegations against President Trump.
Let Republicans continue to embarrass themselves.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/nunes-calls-the-impeachment-inquiry-a-smear-campaign
@Jim_Jordan embarrassment of the Republican party of Trump
wow alky.
it looks like jim jordan succeeded in triggering your nursing home ass today, while simultaneously making bill taylor look as bad as mueller did during his hearing.
heh.
Opinion is not "Evidence".
"cares more about the investigations of Biden" than he does Ukraine.
ok.
Eve Schiff told Republicans to submit questions for Approval.
I don't know what president or candidate Trump was thinking about the Ukrainians.
-Ambassador Taylor
Game over for him. Next.
Yep ballz, trump is toast!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Opinion is not "Evidence".
In a court of law except for experts testimony......you dumb fuck.....BWAAAAAAA!!!
This bastard @Jim_Jordan cannot wait to name the whistleblower, what a pos.
Do you know what anyone else is thinking?
In a court of law, and an expert on a specific issue, his or her opinion is acceptable. The jury has the right to decide whether to believe or not the opinion of the expert.
If a psychiatrist is asked if an individual has a mental illness, his opinion is acceptable in a court of law @
This could be a bombshell for one reason. If it is true, that the President was on a cell phone, because even the Russians could have been listening into the conversation.
One of Taylor’s staffers was present at the meeting and the restaurant, and overheard the phone conversation.
The staffer told Taylor that Trump asked Sondland about the status of “the investigations,” Taylor testified in his opening statement.
“The member of my staff could hear President Trump on the phone,” Taylor said, “asking Ambassador Sondland about ‘the investigations.’ Ambassador Sondland told President Trump that the Ukrainians were ready to move forward.”
Under questioning later, Taylor affirmed that he understood “the investigations” to mean the investigations Trump wanted Ukraine to announce into the 2016 U.S. elections, the Bidens and Burisma, the natural gas company on whose board Hunter Biden sat.
The other thing is that they were attempting to extort gift.
It is not a quid Pro quo because it is irrelevant because extortion is a crime.
Taylor testifies that when Sondland was asked what Trump thought of Ukraine, "Sondland responded that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden." Here's the motive. Trump only saw Ukraine policy as a means to get the political dirt he wanted!
Whether or not did the two witnesses provided the smoking gun, doesn't matter.
Scott Walker is right about one thing a week is the Democrats have to get more first hand information about the President and his alleged crimes and misdemeanors.
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If a psychiatrist is asked if an individual has a mental illness, his opinion is acceptable in a court of law @
very good alky.
yes that opinion is admissible. not acceptable, but admissible. there is a difference. but it remains one person's opinion.
funny... that you of all people, in the grip of Stage IV TDS, would use mental illness as your example.
freudian slip perhaps?
btw, will the staff physician at the green grove nursing home be prescribing you a mild sedative this evening? i would inquire as it looks like it might be necessary.
Taylor testifies that when Sondland was asked what Trump thought of Ukraine, "Sondland responded that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden." Here's the motive. Trump only saw Ukraine policy as a means to get the political dirt he wanted!
ripping off tweets from mommy jones' david cornhole alky?
that's such poor form. oh, and you forgot the "BOOM"...
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BOOM. Taylor testifies that when Sondland was asked what Trump thought of Ukraine, "Sondland responded that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden." Here's the motive. Trump only saw Ukraine policy as a means to get the political dirt he wanted!
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Referring to the whistleblower, Rep. Jim Jordan says Congress will never get a chance to question the one "who started it all."
"I'd be glad to have the person who started it all to come in and testify," Rep. Welch replies. "Pres. Trump is welcome to take a seat right there."
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but admissible. there is a difference. but it remains one person's opinion.
YOU DUMB FUCK!!! Explain that to the goat fucker whose ass was kicked again with his opinion that opinions were not admissible in court......!!!! Try to keep up instead of sucking on trumps dick!!!!
not always alky. which is why i just caught you red-handed.
Fox News anchor Chris Wallace argued that William Taylor's testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee was very damaging to President Trump.
Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, testified on Wednesday about the Trump's desire to convince Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden.
Following the Democrats' questioning of Taylor, Wallace warned that it was too early to conclusively judge Taylor's testimony because the Republicans hadn't had their turn questioning the witness. Despite that, he said, "Having said that, I think that William Taylor was a very impressive witness and was very damaging to the president. First of all, as you pointed out, he took very copious notes at almost every conversation — when he put quotes in his opening statement, he said those were direct quotes from what was said. It also doesn’t hurt that he has a voice like Edward R. Murrow."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chris-wallace-impeachment-witness-william-taylor-was-very-damaging-to-the-president/ar-BBWHLxW?ocid=sf
Even myballs has said that using my disease of alcoholism is not proper behavior, because he has seen what it can do to some people.
I'm Roger and I am an alcoholic.
But one day at a time I have been sober since June 25th of 2012.
The President has been saying that Fox News is no longer an asset.
i just caught you red-handed.
Well good for you .......other than the clap....that's all you have ever caught you dumb fuck
Scott, you have been saying that this isn't a big deal. But
Taylor, who made a point in his opening statement to mention that he is “non-partisan” and has served under U.S. presidents since Ronald Reagan, provided a new detail about President Trump’s interest in getting Ukraine to launch and publicly announce investigations into the Bidens.
I don't agree with a lot of the political beliefs with the Republican party. Shit happens, but this is not a coup, or a hoax.
Ronald Reagan would be shouting #impeachment.
You used to be a rational thinking Republican, or sometimes a libertarian.
This President has committed high crimes and misdemeanors, abused justice and he actually said that he can do anything he wants to.
It's not right.
Even myballs has said that using my disease of alcoholism is not proper behavior, because he has seen what it can do to some people.
well, myballs has always been more gracious than i, alky.
i've seen what it can do to people too. first hand. i also know that it's not a disease. it's a personal failing.
liberals are well versed in getting shit labeled as a "disease." it's so much easier to dig into my wallet for some cash that way. to fund a program not meant to cure, but to perpetuate the program, and enrich those chosen to administer the program.
you don't have a fucking disease, alky. you're just a garden variety asshole with a blackout drinking problem.
You are incorrect.
i also know that it's not a disease. it's a personal failing.
Doctors don't agree with you.
George W Bush is an alcoholic.
stealing from facebook, "i always post the link" alky?
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Taylor, who made a point in his opening statements to mention that he is “non-partisan” and has served under U.S. presidents since Ronald Reagan, provided a new detail about President Trump’s interest in getting Ukraine to launch and publicly announce investigations into the Bidens.
https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrime/posts/taylor-who-made-a-point-in-his-opening-statements-to-mention-that-he-is-non-part/1014944532196021/
Alcohol addiction is a complex disease with psychological, biological and social components, and like other chronic illnesses, addiction often involves cycles of relapse and remission. Some people can drink alcohol—and even over-indulge on occasion—without it becoming an issue. For others, drinking can turn into mild, moderate or severe "alcohol use disorder," the term doctors and clinicians now use instead of alcoholism, alcoholic or alcohol abuse.
Why do some people become addicted to alcohol or other drugs while other people don't?
Multiple risk factors come into play, including age, genetics, biology, environment and social influences, but one aspect applies across the board: alcohol affects our brain's reward center. When we eat good food, listen to music or exercise, our brain releases bursts of dopamine, a feel-good chemical that urges us to "do that again!" According to research by biological psychologists, individuals who are more susceptible to addiction—as well those who are genetically susceptible to certain mental health disorders—likely have lower levels of dopamine in their brains. These biological differences in brain chemistry are not choices.
Research also shows that when the brain reward centers for these individuals are flooded with alcohol- or drug-induced levels of dopamine, the connection between drinking, the resulting pleasure and cues linked to the experience "teach" the brain to seek drugs or alcohol at the expense of healthier goals and activities. In short, the need for addictive substances becomes hardwired in the brain, to the point that the brain can't distinguish between healthy rewards and drug rewards.
According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse, "This is why a person who misuses drugs eventually feels flat, without motivation, lifeless and/or depressed, and is unable to enjoy things that were previously pleasurable. The person needs to keep taking drugs to experience even a normal level of reward—which only makes the problem worse, a vicious cycle."
Does the medical community recognize alcoholism as a disease?
Yes. Since 1956, the American Medical Association (AMA) has identified alcoholism as a disease characterized by compulsive decision-making, impulsive behavior and relapse. The AMA's disease theory of alcoholism is based on the following criteria:
Biological in nature (illness exists in and of itself)
Does not go away or heal on its own
Exhibits observable signs or symptoms
Is progressive (can get worse—even fatal—if left untreated)
Has a predictable timeline of development and recovery.
https://www.hazeldenbettyford.org/articles/why-is-alcoholism-classified-as-a-mental-illness
The Wife of a President was an alcoholic.
Betty Ford
Doctors don't agree with you.
thanks for accepting my premise and making my point, alky.
doctors GET PAID TO NOT AGREE with me.
google government programs to combat alcoholism
and you get About 80,500,000 results (0.77 seconds)
Government Treatment for Alcoholism - Alcohol Rehab Guide
https://www.alcoholrehabguide.org › Treating Alcoholism
Jul 24, 2019 - The agency works to reduce drug and alcohol abuse rates across the ... Government services and federal assistance are available for those ...
National Helpline | SAMHSA - Substance Abuse and Mental ...
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Created for family members of people with alcohol abuse or drug abuse ... lists questions to ask about follow-up treatment, and describes how to reduce risk and ...
Government Alcohol Abuse Treatment - Addiction Center
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there you go sport, and i think you get my drift.
You have nothing but insults and racism.
If this had an ignore key, I wouldn't have to see your bullshit
Fuck you asshole.
Will Republicans will actually admit is racism? It's a question on a lot of progressive minds in the wake of Donald Trump demonizing female congresswomen of color with the "go back" canard that white nationalists and other assorted racists have long used to abuse anyone with heritage they dislike, whether that heritage is Jewish, Irish, Italian, African, Latin American or Muslim. Telling someone to "go back" is, in the ranks of racist statements, right up there with calling a person the N-word or some other rank slur. Yet, there still appears to be resistance among Republicans to admitting that is racism, which leads many on the left to wonder: If this doesn't count, then what could possibly count?
The answer, it's becoming quite clear, is that there is no limit. There's no line in the sand, no sentiment so ugly, where most Republicans will cave in and admit, OK, that's racist.
Beaners Olinsky and etc.
https://www.salon.com/2019/07/17/republicans-will-never-say-that-racism-is-racism-basically-its-because-theyre-racist/
amanda marcotte, akly?
geezus.
she has got to be one of the meanest, angriest, most feckless cunts the left has ever produced.
man, if you've scraping her excrement off of salon you most certainly have hit a new low and absolutely belong being locked down in a nursing home.
when trump emerges totally unscathed from this impeachment folly, you're going to be in a fucking straightjacket.
Contains the very best moment of the entire hearings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7TM8a91fVI
Taylor's unflappable inability to keep from smiling as Johnson tries to drill down on him is a sure indication of how laughable he finds Johnson's questioning.
Interestingly enough... I saw the part just prior to this segment here. Where Jordon reads Taylor's statement. Not just once, but several times. The statement is nonsensical.
The smiling is a nervous type of smile when you are trying to conceal embarrassment. The reality is that William Taylor provided nothing new for the Democrats today that we hadn't already heard.
But this segment here from Jordon "was" new. We hadn't gotten a chance to see the ridiculousness of his statements and the complete ludicrously of how "far removed" he actually is to the things he is testifying about.
Bottom line James..
He was embarrassed.
As well he should be!
Actually, I think he was more amused than embarrassed.
Taylor's unflappable inability to keep from smiling as Jordan tries to drill down on him is a sure indication of how laughable he finds Jordan's questioning.
But the best moment in the entire hearing came near the end.
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REP. JIM JORDAN:
Now there is one witness -- one witness that they won't bring in front of us, they won't bring in front of the American people. And that's the guy who started it all, the whistleblower.
REP. PETE WELCH:
I say to my colleague, I'd be glad to have the person who started it all come in and testify. President Trump is welcome to take a seat right there.
GREAT GOOD LAUGHTER
By the way, I got Jordan's name wrong above at 6:45, calling him Johnson.
Roger AmickNovember 13, 2019 at 3:21 PM
If a psychiatrist is asked if an individual has a mental illness
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Lol @ Alky , clinically Depressed and Suicidal .
Al Green, Hillary Clinton and now AOC, admitting can't beat him at the ballot box.
"She said it was instead “about preventing a potentially disastrous outcome from occurring next year.”
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