Friday, December 27, 2019

No, Mary and Joseph were not refugees

They had a home, they were not impoverished, or fleeing oppression. They were not moving to a new country as refugees, nor were they any sort of immigrants. They were traveling from their home in Nazareth to the town of Bethlehem on order of the Roman Government. Bethlehem was Joseph's home town, and the Romans were requiring people go back to their hometowns for purposes of census.


Where people got the notion that they would have been considered immigrants, held at some border, and that baby Jesus would have been put in a cage is anyone's guess. But it's truly a wonderful example of a liberal idea of a Christmas story that is a complete hoax and a dishonest politicization of the Christian faith. All obviously drummed up because of politics, hate, and Trump derangement syndrome.

48 comments:

anonymous said...

How funny is it that an atheist provides a lecture on the birth of Christ......Dayum, I've now seen the pinnacle of hypocrisy....!!!!!! Beyond stupid and once again, provides humor to all who find his politics mired in the old white mans failing party!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!!

anonymous said...

BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! The source of Lil Scottys fake found religion and his post!!!!!! Without attribution to boot.....what a fucking loser!!!! You really need to expand your reading list asshole.....your head is amongst the missing!!!!!!!


kill him.
Joseph, Mary, and Jesus Were Not Refugees | The Daily Wire
www.dailywire.com/news/joseph-mary-and-jesus...
Mary and Joseph Weren’t Fleeing a Brutal Civil War. While thousands of Syrians are fleeing the horrifying civil war in which Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is killing thousands of his own peo

Commonsense said...

Blogger anonymous said...
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! The source of Lil Scottys fake found religion and his post!!!!!! Without attribution to boot....


Today I join millions around the world in celebrating the arrival of divinity on earth, who came into this world not in riches but in poverty, not as a citizen but as a refugee.

No matter where or how we celebrate, merry Christmas.

— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) December 25, 2019

C.H. Truth said...

Denny...

There are about 1000 sources you can go to regarding the fundamental lie being told that Joseph and Mary were refugees (or immigrants). They were simply traveling from one city to another within what we now know of as Israel, which at the time was all under the rule of the Roman empire.

For most people who ever went to church (I was confirmed as a Lutheran, took both religion and philosophy of religion courses in College) this is fairly well known.

Commonsense said...

It's well known to every child who went to Sunday school.

caliphate4vr said...

Fatboy is Catholic which explains his fascination with other men's junk and buttholes. a priest jack hammered him ala Ned Beatty

Anonymous said...

Luke 2 King James Version (KJV)

And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.

2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)

3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.

4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)

5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.

16 And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.

17 And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child.

18 And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds.

19 But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.

20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.







h/t: AoS

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I guess Ch overlooked the story in the last part of Matthew chapter 2 according to which Mary and Joseph had to escape from Bethlehem and go to Egypt with the baby in order to avoid the wrath of King Herod who, wanting to kill the Magi-announced newborn "King of the Jews," killed all the two year old or younger male babies of Bethlehem in an attempt to kill Jesus.

Mary and Joseph lived in Egypt until the death of Herod and even then, Matthew says, they could not return to Bethlehem because Herod's cruel son Archelaus had ascended to throne, and so they went north and ended up in Nazareth where Jesus grew up.

If that did not make them immigrants and refugees while they were in Egypt, Ch, what does it make them?

Anonymous said...




If that did not make them immigrants and refugees while they were in Egypt, Ch, what does it make them?


fugitives.

fugitives from the planned parenthood-style "justice" of king herod.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Actually, they were emmigrants.

Anonymous said...

Jane, sit down the Adults are discussing Religion.

Anonymous said...

Perfect.

"fugitives.

fugitives from the planned parenthood-style "justice" of king herod."

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

fugitive
[ˈfyo͞ojədiv]
NOUN
fugitives (plural noun)
a person who has escaped from a place or is in hiding, especially to avoid arrest or persecution.
"fugitives from justice" · [more]
synonyms:
escapee · escaper · runaway · deserter · refugee · renegade · absconder · runagate

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

immigrant
[ˈiməɡrənt]
NOUN
immigrants (plural noun)
a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
"they found it difficult to expel illegal immigrants" · [more]
synonyms:
newcomer · settler · incomer · new arrival · migrant · emigrant · nonnative · foreigner · foreign national · alien · outsider · stranger · naturalized citizen · expatriate · expat

Anonymous said...




very good pederast.

"fugitive" is the most accurate descriptor.

take the loss, pederast.

accept defeat and move on.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

loss? defeat?
rrb is as deranged as Trump

Anonymous said...

RRB , stomped a mud hole in Pedo Jane.

Anonymous said...

Obama called his he-she wife "Mike" and later "Micheal".

YouTube clip too funny.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

'The guy is freaking evil':
New York Times releases explosive video of Navy SEALS talking about SEAL accused of war crimes
Dec. 27th 2019 12:22PM

On November 15, President Donald Trump granted clemency to three members of the military convicted or charged with war crimes — a controversial move that was at odds with those at the Pentagon.

One of those men was Navy SEAL Special Operations Chief Edward Gallagher, who had his rank restored by the president after being demoted by the Navy to petty officer 1st class.

The latest episode of The New York Times' show "The Weekly," show members of SEAL Team 7 who reported Gallagher talking to investigators about him in shocking and sometimes emotional interviews.

Navy SEAL Special Operations Chief Edward Gallagher was accused of killing a teenage ISIS fighter in US custody in Iraq and of shooting at Iraqi civilians.

In July 2019, a jury acquitted Gallagher of all counts but one in an extraordinary trial that saw prosecutorial interference and intervention by Trump.

He was found guilty of posing with the body of the dead ISIS fighter, and Trump's action last month restored Gallagher's rank after the Navy court demoted him to petty officer 1st class.

In the latest episode of The New York Times' show "The Weekly," videos show members of SEAL Team 7 talking to investigators about Gallagher in shocking and sometimes emotional interviews.

"The guy is freaking evil, man," Special Operator First Class Craig Miller says in the video.

"I think he just wants to kill anybody he can," Special Operator First Class Corey Scott tells investigators. Another SEAL Team 7 member calls him "toxic."

In addition to restoring his rank, Trump also intervened to allow Gallagher to keep his Trident, which signified that he was a Navy SEAL. Gallagher retired earlier this year. He has denied the charges and said that the allegations were concocted by unhappy members of the platoon to force him out.

READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE TO SEE WHAT A MONSTER THIS "HERO" OF TRUMP'S WAS AND IS. SOME OF HIS MEN WEPT TO RECOUNT THINGS HE HAD DONE.

Anonymous said...

Roger new line for Roaring Retail Sales Under President Trump .
"for crass consumerism"

Oh Roger, you used to boast with glee about your spending . like "I spend more on booze in a year then some of you earn".

Or when you bought your $50,000 STD Cadillac.

Or when you said you live in a home Worth more then $1,000,000.00.

Or you have a Net Worth "WELL North of a million dollars".

Which of those are you most proud of?

Anonymous said...
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Anonymous said...

"Wages for typical workers are rising at their fastest rate in a decade"

Trump's America Winning

C.H. Truth said...

James - we both know that historians do not believe that King Herod was out to kill the baby Jesus. The story of children being massacred by Herod or anyone fleeing was not corroborated by other historians or by other Gospels.

We also know that Mary and Joseph were living in Nazareth when Jesus was conceived, "traveled" to Bethlehem like many people, and by all historical accounts he was grew up in Nazareth.

Either way, there were no "borders" back in the day and most everything was ruled by the Romans. They were not refugees or immigrants. They settled and lived in exactly the same place (Nazareth) they started from.

Anonymous said...

Socialist Democrats racing toward a "brokered convention ".

No one Dwarf is a clear choice.

Anonymous said...

. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez "it would ‘be an honor’ to be vice president"

What a freaking tard.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Former Vice President Joe Biden confirmed Friday he would not comply with a subpoena to testify in a Senate trial of President Donald Trump.

The Democrat-controlled U.S. House of Representatives impeached Trump earlier this month alleging Trump abused his presidential power by tying foreign aid approved by Congress to a politically motivated investigation into a company on which Biden’s son Hunter Biden served on the board.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Roman empire didn't have ICE

Anonymous said...

LOL, well that shoots your team in the foot.

anonymous said...

C.H. Truth said...
Denny...

There are about 1000 sources you can go to regarding the fundamental lie being told that Joseph and Mary were refugees (or immigrants).


BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!v You fucking liar plagiarized the piece....Sorry scum bag but you and the goat fucker are just 2 more POS that deserve nothing!!!!!!!! Never wrong just like trump and you wonder why you constantly get called out!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Plugs is very afraid of daylight.

What a coward.

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Watch: @JoeBiden says he wouldn't comply with a Senate subpoena in @realDonaldTrump's impeachment trial because it would create a narrative that would let the president "off the hook."

Commonsense said...

Actually, they were emmigrants.

No, in the Roman Empire, going to Egypt from Palestine was akin to going from New York to New Jersey.

In every sense the analogy of the holy family being refugees or emigrants is absolute nonsense.

Commonsense said...

James - we both know that historians do not believe that King Herod was out to kill the baby Jesus.

The Roman historian Josepheius never mention the incident in his writings.

Commonsense said...

RIP Don Imus. The only person who made MSNBC worth watching.

Anonymous said...

-65 Below in Alaska major snow storms coming thru much of the US, power to be lost for days.

"The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire."

Anonymous said...

Jesus is ashamed of Jane .
Fake Pastor knows so little about religion and God.
Pity on his lost soul.

anonymous said...

-65 Below in Alaska major snow storms coming thru much


Good weather report you dumb fucking asshole.... It is also going to rain in Northern Minnesota tomorrow......and is unusually warm in Eastern Kansas!!!!!! Yep you are right on top of things again, goat fucker...!!!!

anonymous said...


Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
Plugs is very afraid of daylight.


And you are afraid of your own shadow.....dumbass..... BTW......what are they going to ask Joe?????? BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Former Vice President Joe Biden confirmed Friday he would not comply with a subpoena to testify in a Senate trial of President Donald Trump.



aw shucks. what a shame, alky.

i mean, who wouldn't want to watch that stammering fucking imbecile make a complete fool of himself in a senate hearing?

anonymous said...

ch that stammering fucking imbecile make a complete fool of himself in a senate hearing?


You mean just like trump if he was called?????? BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!! Maybe he can lecture us again on the proper flushing of toilets, or stammering about hoaxes??????? lOLOLOLOL

Anonymous said...

How will Socialist Democrats defend the actions of Plugs?

Anonymous said...

Denny railed against The return of 1 Trillion dollars to the US Economy by Trump.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In August, Mr Trump promoted a claim that Jewish people in Israel love him as if he is the “King of Israel” and like he is “the second coming of God”.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

China, Iran and Russia will hold joint naval drills starting on Friday in the Indian Ocean and Gulf of Oman, China’s defence ministry said on Thursday, amid heightened tension in the region between Iran and the United States.

China will send the Xining, a guided missile destroyer, to the drills, which will last until Monday and are meant to deepen co-operation between the three countries’ navies, ministry spokesman Wu Qian told a monthly news briefing.

The drill was a “normal military exchange” between the three armed forces and was in line with international law and practices, Wu said.

“It is not necessarily connected with the regional situation,” he said, without elaborating.

The Gulf of Oman is a particularly sensitive waterway as it connects to the Strait of Hormuz - through which about a fifth of the world’s oil passes - which in turn connects to the Gulf.


The Axis is being rebuilt by the three powers who could change the world.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The drills are also coming at a time of fraught tensions between the United States and Iran.

Friction has increased since last year when U.S. President Donald Trump pulled the United States out of Iran’s 2015 nuclear deal with six nations and re-imposed sanctions on the country, crippling its economy.

Washington has proposed a U.S.-led naval mission after several attacks in May and June on international merchant vessels, including Saudi tankers, in Gulf waters which the United States blamed on Iran. It denies the accusations.

Tension has risen in the region not only over Iran’s disputed nuclear program but also over a September attack on Saudi oil facilities blamed on Iran by the United States and Saudi Arabia. Iran also denies involvement.

The Indian Ocean and Gulf of Oman are key areas for international trade and maintaining security in the waterways is an important task, Brigadier General Abolfazl Shekarchi, spokesman for Iran’s armed forces, said on Wednesday, according to the official IRNA news agency.

“This drill will take place for supporting and increasing experience in the security of international trade in the region,” he said.

China has close diplomatic, trade and energy ties with Iran.

But China also has good relations with Iran’s regional rival Saudi Arabia, meaning it has long had to tread a fine line in a part of the world where it has traditionally exerted far less sway than the United States, Russia, France or Britain.

Chinese President Xi Jinping is likely to visit Saudi Arabia next year as it is the host of the 2020 G20 summit.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump will never testify under oath in the Senate trial because he would either lie. or make a stammering fucking imbecile make a complete fool of himself in a senate hearing.


rrb you should shut up because you are so fucking stupid.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Seriously, he is an isolationist. But if and if you actually asked him about being an isolationist, he would not know what an
isolationist is!

Our NATO allies have been trying to get the President and his team to get their heads out of their asses.

Caliphate4vr said...

maybe Russia can keep the tug boats, that trail the the Admiral Kuznetsov, out of sight during photo ops