Tuesday, January 14, 2020

Did the Russians hack Burisma?

Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company
With President Trump facing an impeachment trial over his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, Russian military hackers have been boring into the Ukrainian gas company at the center of the affair, according to security experts.
It is not yet clear what the hackers found, or precisely what they were searching for. But the experts say the timing and scale of the attacks suggest that the Russians could be searching for potentially embarrassing material on the Bidens — the same kind of information that Mr. Trump wanted from Ukraine when he pressed for an investigation of the Bidens and Burisma, setting off a chain of events that led to his impeachment.
Then, as now, the Russian hackers from a military intelligence unit known formerly as the G.R.U., and to private researchers by the alias “Fancy Bear,” used so-called phishing emails that appear designed to steal usernames and passwords, according to Area 1, the Silicon Valley security firm that detected the hacking. In this instance, the hackers set up fake websites that mimicked sign-in pages of Burisma subsidiaries, and have been blasting Burisma employees with emails meant to look like they are coming from inside the company.
“The attacks were successful,” said Oren Falkowitz, a co-founder of Area 1, who previously served at the National Security Agency. Mr. Falkowitz’s firm maintains a network of sensors on web servers around the globe — many known to be used by state-sponsored hackers — which gives the firm a front-row seat to phishing attacks, and allows them to block attacks on their customers.

So the first question that has to be asked is what sort of authority does the United States have in this situation? It's one country hacking a company from completely different country, and neither country is the United States. It's not like we can indict or arrest Russians for hacking a Ukrainian Company that has nothing to do with the United States. There obviously is no evidence being provided that anyone associated with the United States is involved.

The good thing to know is that our current intelligence under Trump has already figured this out this international action, while our previous intelligence under Obama took a couple of year to not ever really figure anything out regarding a domestic political hack. That could be largely because our current intelligence is interested in fact, while our previous intelligence was more interested in the fiction that Trump was somehow involved in the hacking.

Now I don't believe that there is any reason for the Russians to expose anything that they might have found. Just because nothing is being sent to Wikileaks, doesn't mean that the Russians came up empty. Certainly back in 2016 they waited till the most politically opportunistic time to release the information from the DNC and Clinton servers, as to agitate and disrupt our election. There is no reason to believe that they wouldn't do the same thing again. Wait to see if slow Joe Biden wins the nomination, and they release all of the damaging illegal activity that he and his son were (or were not) involved in.

Of course, if there was nothing illegal or unethical regarding Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, and Burisma... then Slow Joe and the Democrats have nothing to worry about!

38 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

So are the Russians trying to help Donald Trump AGAIN?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Or maybe we should better ask,
WERE the Russians trying to help Donald Trump AGAIN?

Because the fact that they haven't released anything yet may mean they couldn't find anything that WOULD help him.

Commonsense said...

To note, the security firm who reported this has Democrat clients and the CEO has donated only to Democrat candidates.

Myballs said...

Joe Biden pegged the lie meter tonight. Too bad the fact check groups will look the other way.

Anonymous said...



how convenient.

nancy peloshee has spent the better part of the last month looking like a goddamned fool, and just as the senate impeachment trial is about to begin we're suddenly back to russia, russia, russia!




Anonymous said...




The Federal Reserve’s interventions inflated asset values, which helped the affluent but did little for low- and middle-income Americans who don’t own stocks. Enter Donald Trump, whose deregulation and tax reform unleashed a surge of business investment (before his tariff spree) and hiring, which has drawn workers off the sidelines and raised wages.

The comparative data are striking, and mostly ignored by the press. During the first 11 quarters of the Trump Presidency, wages for the bottom 10% of earners over age 25 rose an average 5.9% annually compared to 2.4% during Barack Obama’s second term, according to the latest demographic data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Wages for the middle two quartiles increased 3.2% compared to 2.2% and 2.7% between 2012 and 2016. Wage gains for the top 10% have held steady at about 3%.

Less educated workers have also seen the strongest gains. Wages have risen at a 6.1% annual clip for workers over 25 without a high school degree and 3.9% for those with some college—both about three times faster than during the second Obama term. Wage gains have also accelerated though to a lesser degree—to 3.2% from 2.2%—for college grads.

Irony alert: Socialism-loving young people are getting the biggest pay raises. Wages have increased on average 5.8% annually for teens, 4.4% for 20 to 24-year-olds and 4.8% for 25 to 34-year-olds during the Trump Presidency. Maybe as their incomes rise, more millennials will question the tale of woe and revolution that Bernie Sanders is selling them.

As for inequality, the Gini coefficient that measures the income gap has been declining among folks who earn a paycheck. Rising wages have lifted millions of Americans out of poverty and off the government dole. The poverty rate for blacks (20.8%) and Hispanics (17.6%) is the lowest on record.



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anonymous said...


So the first question that has to be asked is what sort of authority does the United States have in this situation?

Dayum Lil Scotty.....open your eyes drop the stupidity......what authority do the Russians have to hack the DNC and release the e-mails to help trump.,...your hatred of our country is growing exponentially by the day as you dig deeper and deeper to satisfy your need to suck donnie's cock......sad how the mighty have fallen!!!!

anonymous said...

oo bad the fact check groups will look the other way.


Check the Wa post you dumb fuck......BWAAAAAAAA!!!!

Commonsense said...

Well if we learned one thing from last night's debate, it's that the media doesn't want Bernie to win the nomination and will do all it can to derail him.

C.H. Truth said...

Actually James,

The Russians would be helping the United States, not Trump. A significant majority of Americans want the United States and/or Ukraine to at least investigate Burisma. The fact that Democrats are doing everything in their power to prevent it, is harmful and suggests that they have something to hide.

If there is a truth out there that Americans should know about (especially if that truth is tied to a Presidential candidate)... then the Russians (or whoever) would be doing the American public a favor by providing that information to us.

Americans are not better served by being kept in the dark about things, just because the truth might harm a media's and deep state's favorite candidate.

Anonymous said...




The fact that Democrats are doing everything in their power to prevent it, is harmful and suggests that they have something to hide.


indeed. and note the hypocrisy. the pederast and the alky specifically and the left in general have repeatedly called for trump to testify in the impeachment hearings because "if he's innocent he has nothing to hide."

but the same cannot be demanded of biden because... shut up.



Myballs said...

Faljowitz, head of AreaOne, is a huge dem donor and is working with their 2020 candidates. It's a bogus story to redo the 2016 bogus story.

Anonymous said...

.what authority do the Russians have to hack the DNC and release the e-mails to help trump


well, first of all champ, the russians didn't hack the dnc; they phished podesta and the dumb fuck fell for it. and in their desire to obscure their wrongdoing they employed crowdstrike instead of federal law enforcement to investigate.

second, i have yet to see or hear one serious person illustrate how, specifically and exactly, releasing the contents of those emails "helped" donald trump.


no one yet has been able to adequately explain how the russians helped trump get elected, or what they could have possibly hoped to gain from his presidency. sanctions against russia today as as severe as they've been in a generation, and hillary was a known corrupt quantity and it was a given that she could be bought.

Myballs said...

Do the dems here acknowledge that CNN rigged the debate for Warren and against bernie?

anonymous said...


The Russians would be helping the United States, not Trump. and/or Ukraine to at least investigate Burma


Only thing that I can say Lil Scotty is ARE YOU FUCKING NUTZ???????? BWAAAAAAA!!!! If your thick skull thinks russia would do anything to help the US is not only absurd but using a trumpism....treasonous!!!!!!!! I doubt that 70% of the US voters even know what a burisma is ....only trump slurping assholes equate that to trumps indiscretions and crimes....!!!! What would Hunter Biden yield as a witness to the trump foibles?????? NOTHING!!!!! He is not material or needed to exonerate or convict the liar in chief!!!!! The truth is trump and the R's will claim exoneration and swallow another load of BS like good little boys....and the old white man party will continue its decline and relevance.....sad but good fucking bye!!!!!! BTW.....Warren looked like a fool last night....that was truly sad!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Will Biden and other Dwarfs suspend thier campaigns during Senate Impeachy Thingy?

Anonymous said...

Challenging the Three Socialist Stooges of CHT to answer with facts not emotions.
"i have yet to see or hear one serious person illustrate how, specifically and exactly, releasing the contents of those emails "helped" donald trump.


no one yet has been able to adequately explain how the russians helped trump get elected, or what they could have possibly hoped to gain from his presidency. sanctions against russia today as as severe as they've been in a generation, and hillary was a known corrupt quantity and it was a given that she could be bought."


anonymous said...


Will Biden and other Dwarfs suspend their campaigns during Senate Impeachy Thingy?

The goat fucking idiot didn't get a rise from the other thread he posted this thingy on......BWAAAAAAAA!!!! How can you keep beating your own stupidity???????? Asshole....

anonymous said...

no one yet has been able to adequately explain how the russians helped trump get elected


And you can't explain why you are an unemployed lazy fucking asshole....!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Diaper Denny can't answer.

Road Kill is smarter.

anonymous said...


Diaper Denny can't answer.

The goat fucker out stupids himself again....and it is still early!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!!!! Read the mueller report asshole....lots of info there if you chose to read it!!!!!!! God you are a stupid fucking jerk!!!!

anonymous said...

The goat fucker and his question are more laughable than his lazy old white ass not being able to find a job.....!!!!!! BWAAAAAAA!!!


For some time, there has been a conflation of issues—the hacking and leaking of illegally obtained information versus propaganda and disinformation; cyber-security issues and the hacking of elections systems versus information operations and information warfare; paid advertising versus coercive messaging or psychological operations—when discussing “Russian meddling” in the 2016 US elections. The refrain has become: “There is no evidence that Russian efforts changed any votes.”

But the bombshell 37-page indictment issued Friday by Robert Mueller against Russia’s Internet Research Agency and its leadership and affiliates provides considerable detail on the Russian information warfare targeting the American public during the elections. And this information makes it increasingly difficult to say that the Kremlin's effort to impact the American mind did not succeed.

The indictment pulls the curtain back on four big questions that have swirled around the Russian influence operation, which, it turns out, began in 2014: What was the scope of the Russian effort? What kind of content did it rely on? Who or what was it targeting, and what did it aim to achieve? And finally, what impact did it have?

Most of the discussion of this to date has focused on ideas of political advertising and the reach of a handful of ads—and this discussion has completely missed the point.

So let’s take these questions one at a time.

1. What was the scope of the Russian effort?

The Mueller indictment permanently demolishes the idea that the scale of the Russian campaign was not significant enough to have any impact on the American public. We are no longer talking about approximately $100,000 (paid in rubles, no less) of advertising grudgingly disclosed by Facebook, but tens of millions of dollars spent over several years to build a broad, sophisticated system that can influence American opinion.

The Russian efforts described in the indictment focused on establishing deep, authenticated, long-term identities for individuals and groups within specific communities. This was underlaid by the establishment of servers and VPNs based in the US to mask the location of the individuals involved. US-based email accounts linked to fake or stolen US identity documents (driver licenses, social security numbers, and more) were used to back the online identities. These identities were also used to launder payments through PayPal and cryptocurrency accounts. All of this deception was designed to make it appear that these activities were being carried out by Americans.

Additionally, the indictment mentions that the IRA had a department whose job was gaming algorithms. This is important because information warfare—the term used in the indictment itself—is not about "fake news" and “bots." It is about creating an information environment and a narrative—specific storytelling vehicles used to achieve goals of subversion and activation, amplified and promoted through a variety of means.

Myballs said...

Trump and Pence are both in Wisconsin talking about how the Packers will beat Pelosi's 49ers. Smart.

C.H. Truth said...

I doubt that 70% of the US voters even know what a burisma is ....only trump slurping assholes equate that to trumps indiscretions and crimes....!!!!

Then why are Democrats impeaching the President because he wanted to look into it? Sure seems like they have something to hide. If someone can expose what it is that is being hidden...

then everyone wins!

Democracy dies in the darkness, right?

Anonymous said...

Very, Every Adantage goes to Trump.

While Biden and other Dwarfs are going to Suspend thier campaigns in an act that shows both good sportsmanship and Party Solidarity.

Trump will be on the Stage mocking.

Commonsense said...

Trump may have actually won the election last night by coming out against flow restricters in shower head and faucets.

That's a very popular position to take.

Anonymous said...

Palsy is asking the Jury to call witnesses that her persecution did not.

The Defendent does not have to prove or disprove a single thing.

Anonymous said...

When I built my home in the early 90's, as my plumber when over the plans four the Three bathrooms, he asked her if she wanted the flow restrictors removed.

She said , without hesitation Yes.

anonymous said...

Three bathrooms, he asked her if she wanted the flow restrictors removed.

She said , without hesitation Yes.


IOW's I waste resources and burn wood for heat.....Sad


Then why are Democrats impeaching the President


BECAUSE THEY HATE TRUMP YOU FUCKING LOSER!!!!! Get with the program! BWAAAAAA!!!! The ukraine had nothing to do with the russians fucking with us.....except without out that fake linkage....you and the BS would fall flat !!!!!!!! Only trump losers are falling for that crap!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

The Russian efforts described in the indictment focused on establishing deep, authenticated, long-term identities for individuals and groups within specific communities. This was underlaid by the establishment of servers and VPNs based in the US to mask the location of the individuals involved.


Sounds like an elaborate and embellished definition of what on-line Marketing is in general. The idea that targeting internet users based on their long term buying and browsing habits?

caliphate4vr said...

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The criminals are debating exactly how much of your money to steal. Some are suggesting stealing all of your money, while others would just like to steal most of your money. Whatever the case, they all agree on two things: A.) you have money and B.) it must be stolen.

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"What were we talking about again?" he asked, snapping out of a daydream and realizing he'd been addressing a blank wall the entire time.

These goofy criminals may seem like characters out of a family-friendly screwball comedy, but authorities have warned that their plans to steal your money are very, very real.

Commonsense said...

Then why are Democrats impeaching the President
BECAUSE THEY HATE TRUMP YOU FUCKING LOSER!!!!!


Well Denny, that is problably the most honest answer you ever gave. But just hating a president is not grounds for impeachment and the trumped up charges they made up are weak to say the least.

Anonymous said...

Diaper Denny.

When you use water it is piped to you from miles away and for that convenient you pay a utility company.
enlarginging your massive carbon fat print.

Anonymous said...



The Mueller indictment permanently demolishes the idea that the scale of the Russian campaign was not significant enough to have any impact on the American public.


hardly.

the indictments were not serious. had they been they would've been kept sealed and secret so the russians could've been apprehended on American soil. by making them public mueller guaranteed that they would never return to face the charges listed in the indictments. we do not have an extradition agreement with russia.

mueller basically spent two years and $30 MILLION jerking off. his report proved that.

their solitary goal in the entire operation was trump's removal. they couldn't give a shit less about any russians.

Anonymous said...

Nancy Palsy named Adam Sinking Schitt as The Socialist Democrats Prosecuted.
🤣😃😅😆😂

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

WARNING TO REPUBLICANS:

A Group of Known Statesmen and Stateswomen Debate How to Tax Money from the Obscenely Wealthy and See that It Gets Distributed into Helpful Programs Benefiting All Other Americans

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