1) Trump is not listening to the science: This is probably the biggest and most transparently visible lie that is being spread. The fact is that every day Trump gets up and does a briefing in which life long medical experts are brought up to speak. The NIAID and CDC is made up of people specifically dedicated to the spread and control of infectious diseases. Both Dr Fauci and Dr Birx have decades of experience in the very field which make them "most" qualified to understand the coronavirus, which is why they are spearheading the efforts.
The media has attempted to make a big deal out of every little thing that appears to be a disagreement. They especially like to demand that Trump saying things like he would like things open by Easter to be "ignoring science". But Trump has continuously touted efforts of the Task Force and to date Trump has gone along with their recommendations 100%. The President is obviously being lobbied both by the medical experts as well as his financial experts. As President, it will ultimately be his call as to how to best balance the two.
But for now, the CDC and coronavirus task force have been calling the shots. Both Dr Fauci and Dr Birx have publicly pushed back on the idea that Trump is not listening to them or that there are fundamental issues of disagreement.
The reality is that both legitimate and arm chair medical "experts" have come out of the woodwork here. Not all of them are going to agree which makes it impossible for anyone to listen to "everyone". So while many of our nation's Governors have decided to rely on medical guidance from people other than the NIAID, CDC, and the task force, that doesn't mean that the career epidemiologists who are advising the task force are still not the gold standard for whom people "should" be listening to. Perhaps Governors (like ours who keeps claiming that coronavirus is destined to infect a vast majority of Minnesotans and kill thousands) are the ones listening to the wrong experts.
2) The United States is "botching" the testing: Let's be perfectly clear here. There isn't another country on the planet who has come further in a quicker amount of time as it pertains to testing. We started our extensive testing when American casualties was still under 300. Name a previous infectious pandemic where our reaction and mass widespread testing started prior to a massive amount of people already dead.
As explained in the task force briefing yesterday, we are creating testing kits at a rate that we will soon be able to send these kits to other places in the world to help them assist in their testing. Since when does the country who is "botching" the testing have the ability to provide assistance to the rest of the world (many who obviously did it better in the eyes of liberals).
3) The Federal Government is withholding medical supplies from States: Give a Governor a podium and a media audience and it's amazing what can happen. So far Andrew Cuomo has blamed the Federal government for much of his own mismanagement. Cuomo had ignored his own experts who demanded that they were short of medical supplies. He blamed others for losing the medical supplies they did actually have. He demanded that the Federal Government response on respirators were woefully short because he needed 30,000 of them (which was one of the things that Dr Birx pushed back on). Quite frankly, he has done very little lately but complain. Which is apparently a trait that many Democrats admire (the ability to point fingers and complain) because many believe he should replace Joe Biden as their nominee. If he held his breath until he turned blue and stomped his feet really hard, he might be just appointed King Democrat.
Others demanded that the President should use his executive powers to force private industry to help out, until he actually did. Now these same people are questioning exactly why did did so with General motors. You cannot make this shit up folks. The reality is that Ford, Tesla, General Electric, 3M, and a list of others too long to list have stepped up to assist in making medical supplies that will go out to the various states. Is every state going to get everything they want? Not if Cuomo continues to believe he needs a respirator for every confirmed case of coronavirus. But they will get the lion share of what they need, and none of that would be possible if we simply relied on the Federal Government (rather than coop with private industry as the President has).
As it stands, what we are doing right now is totally unprecedented. Moreover, we are doing it at a time when we are very early (according to the casualty rates) in the spread. When was the last time our Government sent FEMA, the National Guard, the Federal Military to actually build temporary hospitals or move large military hospital ships to areas that need them. Did the Obama Biden Administration do these things when tens of thousands were dying from the Swine flu? Certainly we have never done anything closely resembling anything like this at a point where we have a casualty rate sitting at only 0.0005% of the country.
Bottom line: The response of the task force has been nothing short of spectacular on this. The medical experts advising the task force are the very best in the field of epidemiology and there is no good reason to be listening to anyone else at this point. We are currently the leaders in testing, and are developing even better testing that should help not just Americans but the entire world. The manner in which our private sector has stepped up to assist with medical supplies is nothing short of heroic.
Instead of whiny liberals complaining about everything because their personal hatred of Trump and political aspirations come first, perhaps they should just say thank you to everyone involved in this.
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CH UNTRUTH SAYS
"Trump is not listening to the science: This is probably the biggest and most transparently visible lie that is being spread."
THEN WHY DID Lindsey Graham call him to say,
"If you reopen the nation’s economy too early against the advice of public-health experts, you will own the deaths from the novel coronavirus that follow.”
And then Graham went on to say that not only Trump but the Trump sycophantic GOP would also be held responsible for putting the political concerns ahead of concern for "the health and safety of the American people."
In other words: "LISTEN TO SCIENCE!!!"
good post.
all of this is easy to understand once you accept the fact that liberals -
1) lack any human capacity for compassion
and
2) cannot resist the desire to politicize everything.
every other attempt to remove trump has failed and not just by a little, but has failed in spectacular fashion. to a liberal this simply represents the next best opportunity to remove this president from office. the more dead the better because it just bolsters their cause.
in a way this reminds me of the bush admin and early war on terror. the NY Times and WaPo could not wait to gleefully report each new american serviceman death in bushitler's "war for oil."
those responsible for taking on this challenge are fighting two viruses -
corona and liberalism.
I see the "pastor" is continuing to extract shit from his post previous thread from Goddard's political_lire.
Well the FAKE NEWS Washington Post is quoting from a supposed private phone conversation between Trump and Graham.
Was it deep state? is it FAKE? was it just a private back and forth? was it relating to hypotheticals? is there a transcript to be able to produce quotes? a recording?
ANSWERS and direct links "pastor", you dumped this on two threads now
A majority of Americans think Trump acted too slowly in responding to the severity of the crisis.
oh and your second "quote" you attributed to Graham wasn't even a quote from Graham. It was a quote of the Washington Post paraphrasing what Graham supposedly said.
I'll wait.
Well the FAKE NEWS Washington Post is quoting from a supposed private phone conversation between Trump and Graham.
virtually all of the msm has now resorted to reporting complete fabrications as news. and a scumbag like goddard makes a living peddling lies and hatred of trump. in a way it's morbidly fascinating to witness. they celebrate each new reported death as one step closer to the removal of this president.
Blogger James said...
A majority of Americans think Trump acted too slowly in responding to the severity of the crisis.
perhaps. if true that can also be laid at the feet of the msm.
trumps earliest measures to address the issue back in january happened during his impeachment, which was the only thing related to trump that was being reported.
what a neat trick. completely ignore the actions of the president and refuse to report them, then accuse him of being slow to respond.
heads i win, tails you lose.
this is why two thirds of americans think the media fucking SUCKS.
58 percent of Americans said Trump was initially “too slow to take action to address the problem,” while 38 percent said he “acted with the right amount of speed” and 4 percent had no opinion on the issue.
"If you reopen the nation’s economy too early against the advice of public-health experts
Sorry Reverend...
But tell me "when" Trump reopened the country against the advice of public-health experts???
Did you listen to the task force briefing yesterday or are you still relying on other people's quotes to guide your opinions?
58 percent of Americans said Trump was initially “too slow to take action to address the problem,
I just put up a new thread of how his approval rating is for his handling of the crisis!
Doesn't appear that 58% is upset with him...
And ultimately the "results" of this crisis will matter infinitely more (to most Americans who can think for themselves) over what the media is spreading!
58 percent of Americans said Trump was initially “too slow to take action to address the problem,”
no shit, pederast.
i repeat -
trumps earliest measures to address the issue back in january happened during his impeachment, which was the only thing related to trump that was being reported.
fail to report the actions of the president, and it's no surprise when no one knows it ever happened.
it's called a "lie of omission" pederast.
when you go to the gallup poll that has trump at 60%, the only group that's polling under water at 44% is the media.
heh.
the same media whose balls are resting on the pederast's chin.
For Jamestown team to WIN, "400,000" Americans have to Die.
Peter Hitchens
@ClarkeMicah
Professor Ferguson and Imperial College have now dropped their coronavirus death predictions from 500,00 to 20,000 to today's 5,700: https://thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-lockdown-is-on-course-to-reduce-total-death-rate-3gn7hfjzk… . Could *anyone* else have shifted so totally, so fast, and still be taken seriously? It makes Monty Python look serious.
while I am waiting for james this fits in this thread...
Joe Biden's Live Stream Responses and how he would handle things are putre comedy Gold.
And will be used IF he gets the Nomination which according to Jamestown is getting more IFfy.
About five years ago, I wrote a column about the Ring of Gyges, which may have been the inspiration for the ring of invisibility that sucked the soul out of Gollum in Tolkien’s “Lord of the Rings.”
Plato’s brother Glaucon tells the story in the “Republic” of how Gyges, a shepherd, found the ring and, having become invisible, discovered he could commit any crime without being caught.
Glaucon said, “No man would keep his hands off what was not his own when he could safely take what he liked out of the market, or go into houses and lie with any one at his pleasure, or kill or release from prison whom he would…”
I noted back then that the media had had a similar effect on the Democrats. Hiding the corruption and abuses of the Obama administration, the press made them invisible and so the abuses grew worse. Obama went from unleashing the IRS on his political opponents, to selling his soul to the terrorist regime in Iran, and finally to spying on the opposition presidential candidate. Shielded by the ring of media invisibility, Obama became President Gollum.
Since then, though, the power of social media and of right-wing rebel media has grown, and the power of the media ring of invisibility is wearing off.
We see you, Democrats.
Nancy Pelosi must have thought the media ring would protect her when she sought to turn an emergency relief bill into a leftist wish list. Government-enforced board room diversity for businesses. Government-enforced emission postings for airlines. New voting rules to make fraud easier.
“Everything we are suggesting just relates to COVID-19,” Pelosi lied boldly. She must have thought she was still invisible.
But we see you, Nancy.
The New York Times worked hard to make the Democrats’ unforgivable behavior unseeable as well. At first they told the truth: “Democrats Block Action on $1.8 Trillion Stimulus.” Then they softened the truth: “Democrats Block Action on Stimulus Plan, Seeking Worker Protections.” Then they disappeared it: “Partisan Divide Threatens Deal on Rescue Bill.” Then they lied: “The Coronavirus Bailout Stalled, and it’s Mitch McConnell’s Fault.”
In the old days, they could have gotten away with it, but screenshots captured the crime against journalism, and social media spread them around.
We see you, New York Times.
President Trump’s daily press briefings have caused his popularity to rise while the media’s falls. So CNN and NBC have simply stopped full coverage of the briefings. When Response Coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx said the media is overplaying worst case scenarios and inflated numbers – which they are – CNN actually cut away.
But it won’t work. We see Trump doing his job well in a crisis. And we see you, media. You’re not invisible anymore, and you can’t make the Democrats invisible either.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/klavan-we-see-you-democrats?
RRB, what is up with the stash of Ventilator "found" in Warehouse in NY.
those are one's the feds shipped. they haven't been distributed yet because we haven't hit the apex of the virus in NY. cuomo is demanding 30,000 while not even deploying the 8,000 he just received.
this is the theatre of the absurd with everyone involved wanting to appear to do more than their closest political rival.
cuomo's an asshole. always has been, always will be.
he's best suited for sound bites and photo ops.
actual governing? not so much.
an actual problem is the idiots from NYC and NJ streaming north and bringing the virus with them. we have to figure out a way to get these fucksticks turned around. someone's probably going to get shot, and that might just need to happen for these fucking retards to get the message.
RI cops are pulling people over who have NY plates and throwing them the fuck out. they're not wrong to do so.
RI mat guard is gonna do a sweep for NYC residents
Rhode Island police began stopping cars with New York plates Friday. On Saturday, the National Guard will help them conduct house-to-house searches to find people who traveled from New York and demand 14 days of self-quarantine.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-27/rhode-island-police-to-hunt-down-new-yorkers-seeking-refuge
Wow, what a POS Cuomo is.
TY .
"Ford, in cooperation with the UAW, will assemble more than 100,000 critically needed plastic face shields per week at a Ford manufacturing site to help medical professionals, factory workers and store clerks; Ford also will leverage its in-house 3D printing capability to produce components for use in personal protective equipment"
THE LOST MONTH
March 28, 2020 at 2:07 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 3 Comments
New York Times:
“The members of the coronavirus task force typically devoted only five or 10 minutes, often at the end of contentious meetings, to talk about testing, several participants recalled. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, its leaders assured the others, had developed a diagnostic model that would be rolled out quickly as a first step.
“But as the deadly virus from China spread with ferocity across the United States between late January and early March, large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen — because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies and lack of leadership at multiple levels.
“The result was a lost month, when the world’s richest country — armed with some of the most highly trained scientists and infectious disease specialists — squandered its best chance of containing the virus’s spread. Instead, Americans were left largely blind to the scale of a looming public health catastrophe.”
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Trump Mulls Quarantine of New York
March 28, 2020 at 1:00 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 383 Comments
“President Trump said he is considering a quarantine on New York, parts of New Jersey and Connecticut. He said he might make a decision later today,” the Washington Post reports.
“It comes as the United States has become the epicenter of the novel coronavirus pandemic, with more than 100,000 confirmed infections and nearly 1,600 deaths.”
because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies a
Exactly why Trump was elected you stupid pederast
the other part of the problem that can be directly blamed on cuomo is his asinine open borders mindset. while trump was busy shutting down travel to the US from other parts of the world, idiot cuomo was lambasting that behavior calling it racist, bigoted, etc. people from all over the fucking globe converge on NYC every day. and he bitches about a lack of ventilators? we could've been buying them years ago when the NYS DOH acknowledged that we were woefully unprepared for a pandemic.
instead we built BILLION $ solar plants in buffalo for the muskrat that sit empty, we built casinos that the elderly blow their SS checks in, and we bitch about a $7 BILLION hole in our state budget that tracks directly back to cuomo's expansion of medicaid, the cost of which he kept pushing forward into upcoming years budget's via an accounting gimmick until that little trick became untenable.
my governor is a fucking imbecile and anyone who thinks drafting him for president is a good idea needs to have their head examined.
Instead, Americans were left largely blind to the scale of a looming public health catastrophe.”
that's right.
and what were we focused on instead?
IMPEACHMENT.
you fucking imbecile.
I thought this took place in January and February, and involved Trump's own task force.
Did I miss something?
THE LOST MONTH
New York Times:
“The members of the coronavirus task force typically devoted only five or 10 minutes, often at the end of contentious meetings, to talk about testing, several participants recalled. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, its leaders assured the others, had developed a diagnostic model that would be rolled out quickly as a first step.
“But as the deadly virus from China spread with ferocity across the United States between late January and early March, large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen — because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies and lack of leadership at multiple levels.
“The result was a lost month, when the world’s richest country — armed with some of the most highly trained scientists and infectious disease specialists — squandered its best chance of containing the virus’s spread. Instead, Americans were left largely blind to the scale of a looming public health catastrophe.”
Jamestown Death Cult.
just completed my 2020 US Census, 12 people live here. Figure I will combat the illegals .
Eh. #2 was certainly true. The USA is playing catchup, developing and mass-manufacturing testing only after the virus is here and loose upon the land, instead of developing and manufacturing those tests in late January and February, like South Korea did with a much worse initial outbreak.
#1 has a significant element of truth. Trump has said there was only a single case of coronavirus, while the virus was already here and spreading. He's said the total cases would drop to zero in a few days, when there were only 15 or so known cases. He's said multiple times it's no worse than the flu, which is untrue. He's called it the new hoax. And his biggest, most fatal mistake, was dismissing the scientist back in January and early February, when they were calling for development of testing, ramping up of medical supplies, etc. He made one good call - banning foreign travelers that had been in China - but he didn't address that Americans who had been in China could bring it here, and he didn't address the potential that someone could catch the virus in another country and then bring it here.
On #3, the jury is still out. Trump's statement that governors should go out and buy their own medical supplies (especially ventilators), followed by an about-face when he started ordering suppliers to provide these supplies to the d=federal government, supports this view. On the other hand, complaints such as "Florida got all the material it asked for, while Michigan (or California, or New York) only got a tiny fraction of what it requested" are disingenuous, as the supplies were doled out proportional to state populations, and Florida requested far fewer supplies than did most other states.
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