Monday, April 6, 2020

Last time I checked...

The 2.2 trillion dollar emergency stimulus packages was passed by Congress with the assistance of Steve Mnuchin. It was done fairly on very short notice with an eye on getting things rolling quickly and possibly working out any bugs later.


Can someone explain to me how the inevitable short term glitches in this sort of bill passed by Congress in this short of time... are being blamed on Trump?  Can someone explain to me how blaming it on Trump serves any real purpose other than reinforcing how biased and ridiculous the media has become?

51 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

It's sorta like blaming the "short term" glitches on Obamacare rollout on Obama, isn't it?

Commonsense said...

Can someone explain to me how the inevitable short term glitches in this sort of bill passed by Congress in this short of time... are being blamed on Trump?

Bad orange man.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Exactly. You got it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Until til now, I have generally been reluctant to label Donald Trump the worst president in U.S. history. As a historian, I know how important it is to allow the passage of time to gain a sense of perspective. Some presidents who seemed awful to contemporaries (Harry S. Truman) or simply lackluster (Dwight D. Eisenhower, George H.W. Bush) look much better in retrospect. Others, such as Thomas Jefferson and Woodrow Wilson, don’t look as good as they once did.

So I have written, as I did on March 12, that Trump is the worst president in modern times — not of all time. That left open the possibility that James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, Warren Harding or some other nonentity would be judged more harshly. But in the past month, we have seen enough to take away the qualifier “in modern times.” With his catastrophic mishandling of the coronavirus, Trump has established himself as the worst president in U.S. history.
His one major competitor for that dubious distinction remains Buchanan, whose dithering helped lead us into the Civil War — the deadliest conflict in U.S. history. Buchanan may still be the biggest loser. But there is good reason to think that the Civil War would have broken out no matter what. By contrast, there is nothing inevitable about the scale of the disaster we now confront.

The situation is so dire, it is hard to wrap your mind around it. The Atlantic notes: “During the Great Recession of 2007–2009, the economy suffered a net loss of approximately 9 million jobs. The pandemic recession has seen nearly 10 million unemployment claims in just two weeks.” The New York Times estimates that the unemployment rate is now about 13 percent, the highest since the Great Depression ended 80 years ago.

Far worse is the human carnage. We already have more confirmed coronavirus cases than any other country. Trump claimed on Feb. 26 that the outbreak would soon be “down to close to zero.” Now he argues that if the death toll is 100,000 to 200,000 — higher than the U.S. fatalities in all of our wars combined since 1945 — it will be proof that he’s done “a very good job.”
No, it will be a sign that he’s a miserable failure, because the coronavirus is the most foreseeable catastrophe in U.S. history. The warnings about the Pearl Harbor and 9/11 attacks were obvious only in retrospect. This time, it didn’t require any top-secret intelligence to see what was coming. The alarm was sounded in January by experts in the media and by leading Democrats including presumptive presidential nominee Joe Biden.

Government officials were delivering similar warnings directly to Trump. A team of Post reporters wrote on Saturday: “The Trump administration received its first formal notification of the outbreak of the coronavirus in China on Jan. 3. Within days, U.S. spy agencies were signaling the seriousness of the threat to Trump by including a warning about the coronavirus —the first of many—in the President’s Daily Brief.” But Trump wasn’t listening.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Post article is the most thorough dissection of Trump’s failure to prepare for the gathering storm. Trump was first briefed on the coronavirus by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar on Jan. 18. But, The Post writes, “Azar told several associates that the president believed he was ‘alarmist’ and Azar struggled to get Trump’s attention to focus on the issue.” When Trump was first asked publicly about the virus, on Jan. 22, he said, “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China.”

In the days and weeks after Azar alerted him about the virus, Trump spoke at eight rallies and golfed six times as if he didn’t have a care in the world.

Trump’s failure to focus, The Post notes, “sowed significant public confusion and contradicted the urgent messages of public health experts.” It also allowed bureaucratic snafus to go unaddressed — including critical failures to roll out enough tests or to stockpile enough protective equipment and ventilators.

Countries as diverse as Taiwan, Singapore, Canada, South Korea, Georgia and Germany have done far better — and will suffer far less. South Korea and the United States discovered their first cases on the same day. South Korea now has 183 dead — or 4 deaths per 1 million people. The U.S. death ratio (25 per 1 million) is six times worse — and rising quickly.

This fiasco is so monumental that it makes our recent failed presidents — George W. Bush and Jimmy Carter — Mount Rushmore material by comparison. Trump’s Friday night announcement that he’s firing the intelligence community inspector general who exposed his attempted extortion of Ukraine shows that he combines the ineptitude of a George W. Bush or a Carter with the corruption of Richard Nixon.

Trump is characteristically working hardest at blaming others — China, the media, governors, President Barack Obama, the Democratic impeachment managers, everyone but his golf caddie — for his blunders. His mantra is: “I don’t take responsibility at all.” It remains to be seen whether voters will buy his excuses. But whatever happens in November, Trump cannot escape the pitiless judgment of history.

Somewhere, a relieved James Buchanan must be smiling.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Max Boot is a conservative and a Republican who has been exonerated by he is calling the Orange monster is a traitor.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/05/worst-president-ever/

Commonsense said...

Max Boot is an idiot who is a "conservative" the way Jennifer Ruban is a "conservative".

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Whatever he now is, he sure writes well.
(12:06PM above.)

Caliphate4vr said...

The rest of the world is realizing The WHO is a joke

C.H. Truth said...

It's sorta like blaming the "short term" glitches on Obamacare rollout on Obama, isn't it?

Well quite frankly I just blamed Democrats as a whole.

But let's be clear...

They had literally all the time in the world to get that one right. There was no emergency or rush or critical lives to save, as there ware today.

This 2.2 trillion was rushed through by circumstance.

Anyone who believed it would be "perfect" out of gate is a complete moron.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

True. Only Trump does "perfect" stuff.
Like that telephone conversation with Zelensky
and his prediction that we would soon be at zero cases/deaths.

C.H. Truth said...

and his prediction that we would soon be at zero cases/deaths.

And the Reverend was predicting over 2 million deaths!

We'll see who was closer!

C.H. Truth said...

The Funny thing Reverend...


You still haven't actually explained why the law that was passed or why the fact that there is a backlog of loans being processed...

Is somehow Trump's fault.

You didn't even offer to try. You just deflected it by bringing up Obamacare.


You assume people will "REMAIN" stupid once the panic wears off.


But facts are facts are facts are facts...

And once the stupidity wears off (for some of the country anyways) the facts will still remain. And those facts suggest that Trump could not have done anything to change any of that.

The facts will be that idiots just keep blaming him for everything that goes wrong even if there is no reasonable reason to.

And then get upset when he pushes back.

Anonymous said...



Max Boot is a conservative and a Republican

no he's not. he's just another never trumper who insists upon making a goddamned fool of himself on twitter.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

BTW, I never predicted "millions" of USA deaths. That's just typical KansasDidiot BS.

BUT
U.S. passes 10,000 coronavirus deaths
Yahoo News, April 6, 2020 1:45PM

The coronavirus outbreak in the United States reached yet another grim milestone on Monday. The death toll has passed 10,000, according to data from Johns Hopkins University, with more than 347,000 confirmed U.S. cases of the virus — far more than any other country has reported.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

10,000+ and 347,000+ are somewhat higher than Zero.

Anonymous said...

After President sent a freaking plane load of them to him.
"“We don’t need any additional ventilators right now,” Cuomo said to reporters.

He Thanked President Trump.



Anonymous said...

James April 6, 2020 at 11:23 AM

It's sorta like blaming the "short term" glitches on Obamacare rollout on Obama, isn't it?"

Answer :Nope

Anonymous said...

The death rate in the US Continues to drop from the first reported Rate.

Nothing the models had predicted is correct.

Anonymous said...



as predicted, it's starting to look like cuomo went apeshit for nothing:

ALBANY — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo on Monday said that new data suggests New York may not need nearly as many hospital beds at the apex of the coronavirus pandemic as had been estimated last month, when he said there could be up to 140,000 COVID-19 patients hospitalized at the height of the crisis.

The governor also said that no hospitals or health care facilities are lacking ventilators or personal protective equipment.

"They’re all going to say they are running low because they are, but nobody doesn’t have what they need to do their job," Cuomo said. "Have we lost anyone who we could have saved? I don’t believe so. And with that we can go to sleep at night. ...We don’t need any additional ventilators right now."

[...]

His remarks came as New York deaths from coronavirus again rose overnight Monday — to 4,758 — but at a level that indicates the number of new infections are flattening. That increase of 589 additional deaths from Sunday indicates a flattening of fatality levels, including for the number of people in intensive care units and on ventilators.

"If that curve is turning, it's turning because the rate of infection is going down ... social distancing is working," Cuomo said.

The number of newly hospitalized COVID-19 patients dropped sharply again Monday to 358, and New York has had 130,689 people test positive for coronavirus, although thousands of those have recovered.

There are currently 4,504 patients in intensive care units, an increase of 128 overnight Monday. The number of people hospitalized — 16,837 — also rose slightly from Sunday. There have been 13,366 people discharged from hospitals since the pandemic began, a number that increased by 1,179 on Monday.

James Malatras, a member of Cuomo's coronavirus task force, said that while some projections indicated New York would need a minimum of 56,000 hospital beds, the latest estimates put that number significantly lower. The impact from the steps the state — and nation — have taken to stop the spread of the virus were an unknown but it was believed they would work.

"This number and the current data suggests that that is exactly what’s happening," Malatras said. "It’s not settled yet because we are going day by day."


https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Cuomo-says-COVID-19-flattening-and-hospital-needs-15181970.php


it would be nice if we were to get to a place where effective governing overtook the need for a photo op, but as long as this fuckstick is governor we'll never get there.

Anonymous said...



When Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi put Donald Trump through the wringer of impeachment, some Democrats responded, "Hold my beer." House Democrats are launching investigations into Trump's handling of the coronavirus crisis (totally NOT at all intending to impeach him again, pinky-swear!), but at least one of them wants to raise the stakes even higher.

Some congresswoman named Tavia Galonski, a Democrat from the Great State of Ohio, announced she would formally accuse Trump of "crimes against humanity" at the United Nations International Court of Justice at The Hague. Trump's alleged "crime against humanity"? Offering hope about the controversial malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, which some say helps cure COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

"I can’t take it anymore. I’ve been to The Hague. I’m making a referral for crimes against humanity tomorrow. Today’s press conference was the last straw. I know the need for a prosecution referral when I see one," Galonski announced on Twitter late Sunday night.


https://pjmedia.com/trending/unhinged-dem-rep-wants-trump-tried-at-the-hague-for-crimes-against-humanity-over-covid-19-briefings/


Caliphate4vr said...

R.I.P. Pussy Galore

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Boris Johnson Moved to Intensive Care
April 6, 2020 at 3:17 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 64 Comments

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson moved to the intensive care unit as his coronavirus condition worsened, the BBC reports.

Anonymous said...

james even gets his news from godard

Myballs said...

We know. We don't need Goddard to tell us.

Anonymous said...

James reports new here 4 or 5 hours after the fact.

What a drama Queen.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

OH DEAR
Grocery Workers Are Starting to Die of Coronavirus
April 6, 2020 at 4:05 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard no comments yet

“Major supermarket chains are beginning to report their first coronavirus-related employee deaths, leading to store closures and increasing anxiety among grocery workers as the pandemic intensifies across the country,” the Washington Post reports.

“Though more than 40 states have ordered nonessential businesses to close and told residents to stay home to stem the spread of the virus, supermarkets are among the retailers that remain open. Thousands of grocery employees have continued to report to work as U.S. infections and death rates continue to climb, with many reporting long shifts and extra workloads to keep up with spiking demand. Many workers say they don’t have enough protective gear to deal with hundreds of customers a day.”

Anonymous said...

lupus disease patients already taking the Malaria drug have next to no cases of having the China Virus.
So Says Dr. Oz.

Anonymous said...



good grief. the bozo's post and their fear mongering.

the workers at my local grocery are taking mask & glove precautions and are fine. especially since the idiotic plastic bag ban has been dropped.

fucking ghouls.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

I see the POS lying "pastor" has kept up his non-stop streaming of Goddard political_lire spam. Guess his time is worth the same as what he breathlessly copies over.

Nothing.

Well here's a quick reminder from the real world:

Benny
@bennyjohnson

This is Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee.

Nancy Pelosi made Sheila Jackson Lee the Chairwoman of the Congressional COVID-19 task force.

This is how Sheila Jackson Lee, Chairwoman of the Congressional COVID-19 task force, wears a medical mask:

My God.
We are ruled by idiots

Picture: https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1247241020481384449


You might learn something from her "pastor", she's your leadership on the Democrat COVID-19 task force.

ROFLMFAO !!!

anonymous said...

Dumb fuck Lil Schitty asked

Can someone explain to me how the inevitable short term glitches in this sort of bill passed by Congress in this short of time... are being blamed on Trump

Simple asshole.....the same way trump took credit for the stock market before it crashed!!!!!!! He is the leader of the country, a stable genius who thinks his shit don't stink!!!!!

Anonymous said...

James, how many cases of Coroniavirus does your town have?

anonymous said...

So Says Dr. Oz.


WITH NO PROOF OR STUDY YET YOU DUMB FUCKING MORON!!!!!!!!! That is one thing the CDC is investigating with no results to date.....why are you a dumber fuck than rat???????

anonymous said...

The fucked up daddy opined,,,
My God.
We are ruled by idiots


ESPECIALLY BY THE DO NOTHING TRUMP!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!!

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

"do nothing trump" opined lo iq

Detroit rep says hydroxychloroquine, Trump helped save her life amid COVID-19 fight

LANSING — A Democratic state representative from Detroit is crediting hydroxychloroquine — and Republican President Donald Trump who touted the drug — for saving her in her battle with the coronavirus.

State Rep. Karen Whitsett, who learned Monday she has tested positive for COVID-19, said she started taking hydroxychloroquine on March 31, prescribed by her doctor, after both she and her husband sought treatment for a range of symptoms on March 18.

"It was less than two hours" before she started to feel relief, said Whitsett, who had experienced shortness of breath, swollen lymph nodes, and what felt like a sinus infection. She is still experiencing headaches, she said.

Whitsett said she was familiar with "the wonders" of hydroxychloroquine from an earlier bout with Lyme disease, but does not believe she would have thought to ask for it, or her doctor would have prescribed it, had Trump not been touting it as a possible treatment for COVID-19.

Trump, at his daily coronavirus briefings, has repeatedly touted the drug in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin, despite criticism from health professionals that it is unproven and potentially dangerous. There have also been complaints that Trump's remarks have resulted in a shortage of the drug for those people who normally use it for its recommended purposes.
But Whitsett said Trump's comments helped in her case.

"It has a lot to do with the president ... bringing it up," Whitsett said. "He is the only person who has the power to make it a priority."

Asked if she thinks Trump may have saved her life, Whitsett said: "Yes, I do," and "I do thank him for that."

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/

and I see Trump convinced India to start supplying us also now

Anonymous said...

lupus disease patients already taking the Malaria drug have next to no cases of having the China Virus.
So Says Dr. Oz.

Promising news, all hands doing great work.

Anonymous said...

Hydroxychloroquine rated ‘most effective’ coronavirus treatment, poll of doctors finds

By Natalie O'Neill

April 2, 2020 | 6:30pm

anonymous said...

Hydroxychloroquine rated ‘most effective’ coronavirus treatment, poll of doctors finds


BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! You goat fucking idiot!!!!!!!

anonymous said...

So Says Dr. Oz.


WITH NO PROOF OR STUDY YET YOU DUMB FUCKING MORON!!!!!!!!! That is one thing the CDC is investigating with no results to date.....why are you a dumber fuck than rat???????

BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! I hope so for the country, but until a clinical trial says so....FUCK YOU AND OZ!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

When does this POS get fired?
"Dan O'Hara's

Director, NYS Office of Emergency Management

Dan O'Hara's distinguished career spans more than 30 years, including numerous duties such as projectmanagement, fiscal management, and marketing programs, and his experience within the utilities industry spans regulatory and internal auditing."

anonymous said...

Blogger KansasDemocrat said...
When does this POS get fired?


Right after Jared Kushner gets a boot stuck up his ass!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Americans die by the thousands, and Trump gloats about his television audience. They face financial ruin, and he chides governors for inadequate adulation. This is more than a failure of empathy. It’s a failure of basic humanity.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


Hydroxychloroquine is used to
prevent or treat malaria infections caused by mosquito bites. It does not work against certain types of malaria (chloroquine-resistant). The United States Center for Disease Control provides updated guidelines and travel recommendations for the prevention and treatment of malaria in different parts of the world. Discuss the most recent information with your doctor before traveling to areas where malaria occurs.

Caliphate4vr said...

Than you Dr Liver.

I took 4 years ago in Cambodia

Anonymous said...

"We have three children, and we have six grandchildren," Jill Biden "

Wait for it.

""I have five grandchildren. Every single day, I either talk to them or we text,” Joe  Biden

Anonymous said...

What the Racial Data Show
The pandemic seems to be hitting people of color the hardest


"Racism" is not epidemiology. Figure out the actual correlation and you might find something important.

Caliphate4vr said...

More of that damn Trump

Chernobyl radiation levels spike dramatically as forest fires burn in exclusion zone
Fires in Ukraine are more dangerous around Chernobyl, as the trees and plant life are still irradiated from the 1986 nuclear disaster.

anonymous said...

Wow loser.... a completely irrelevant post from a completely irrelevant UGA graduate like his loser Gov!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Commonsense said...

10,000+ and 347,000+ are somewhat higher than Zero

In a country of 360,000,000 people it is also somewhat miniscule.

Commonsense said...

What the Racial Data Show
The pandemic seems to be hitting people of color the hardest
"Racism" is not epidemiology. Figure out the actual correlation and you might find something important


Wondering why you posted this piece from the Atlantic to begin with. It's obvious the author just wants the racial data for some hate filled agenda.

What we do know from the data released is the southern Europeans in the mediterranean countries where hit hardest (along with Iran). Whether there's a culture or ethnic factor in this is yet to be studied.