Sunday, May 31, 2020

Now Mayors and Governors are openly lying to us?

So the new deal here in Minnesota is that outside agitators are causing all of the problems, and now both the Mayors of St Paul (Melvin Carter) and Minneapolis (Jacob Frey), as well as the Governor (Tim Walz) and the Attorney General (Keith Ellison) are trying to blame out of state White Supremacist organizations.

St Paul Mayor Carter now among those openly pushing false conspiracy theories

The Mayor of St Paul suggested that all arrests in St Paul have been from out of town. Mayor Frey continues to insist that this is a far right out of state problem. Governor Walz has implied that he has seen information that suggests that most of the activity is from white supremacists, and Keith Ellison has been on the news pushing the same narrative about this being out of state and primarily white supremacists. Ellison doesn't suggest any evidence, but rather sites other examples of rioting that involved white supremacists for his opinion.

However... Apparently that is not the case.

Official arrest records from both Minneapolis and St Paul suggest that 74 out of 87 of the individuals arrested and reported on Saturday were from Minnesota, and not a single one of the 87 arrested has been tied to any white supremacy or far right group. There has been, however, peopled arrested who do have ties to black lives matters and antifa. Now it could be that there were other arrests last night that prompted Carter's statement about out of town instigators, but it would change the fact that only six people from out of town had been arrested prior to last night in St Paul (all others were local).

My guess is that we will have more information on the demographics of those arrested in the near future. I can only guess at this point as to how many will be local, and how many will be professional agitators from BLM and antifa.

What I do know is that the idea that these protests turned to riots are being initiated and organized by white supremacists has absolutely no factual basis to even suggest it. Unless, of course, you want to believe that the large black population involved are following the orders of the KKK.

Until then, I guess we just have to listen to the lies and the rhetoric. But then again, when do liberals EVER allow facts to speak for themselves? Even after we have the actual factual information, they will still be blaming who they want to blame, rather than those responsible.

UPDATE: (3:44 cst) Arrest report from Saturday night in St Paul: 15 arrests, 4 from Minneapolis, 7 from St Paul, 1 from Blaine, 1 from St Michael, and 2 were from unknown locations. So at best only two of 15 were from out of town.  Yet the Mayor of St Paul suggested that "all" of the people arrested last night were from out of town.

How do politicians get away with this??


36 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Why didn't you give us a video of that mayor's remarks, Ch, so we could judge how sincere or insincere he was and is?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/st-paul-mayor-all-four-officers-must-be-held-accountable/vi-BB14QoqL?ocid=spartandhp

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

New York Times:
Trump Is His Own Worst Enemy In Michigan

“Michigan amounts to a one-state case study on how Mr. Trump’s impulsiveness, inattention to detail and penchant for personal insults have eroded his political standing and diminished his chances to win re-election.

“In addition to his ultimatum over federal funding, Mr. Trump has
ridiculed a half-dozen of the state’s female leaders,
proposed cutting support for the Great Lakes and
suggested a beloved former lawmaker from Michigan is in hell."

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Dan Balz says:
America Is at a Low Ebb

“Pain and destruction strangle hopes and dreams of people across the country.

"People are dying — alone from a terrible virus

"or from a knee on the neck in full public view.

"Cities burn, destroying businesses and inflaming divisions.

"Tens of millions are out of work.

"The president makes it all worse.



“This is the state of the union as the nation reels from multiple blows, each one arriving with swift and overwhelming force.

"Long-standing, untreated inequalities have been exposed anew, and they, in turn, have highlighted the country’s real vulnerabilities.

"What has been just below the surface, known but barely acknowledged and rarely addressed seriously, is now impossible to ignore.

“America experienced a wave of burning cities in the aftermath of a racial killing in 1968.

"America was hit by a pandemic in 1918 that killed even more people than the 102,000 who have died of the coronavirus.

"America was battered by a Great Depression in the 1930s

"and was laid low by a Great Recession just a decade ago.

"America has never experienced all of this kind of tumult in the same moment.

"It is more than the system can bear, and people grieve for the country.”

anonymous said...

Lil Schitty once again making shit up about who is zooming who with his own opinion of what HE thinks is causing the unrest...The gov.....suggested that outsiders might be involved....Unlike trump who said that outsiders with certainty were involved sad how schitty missed that!!!!! With Lil Schitty leading the charge, he just shows that the blame is squarely in the bowels of his mind that white supremacists are perfect citizens and would never do such a thing...I saw a very diverse crowd in pictures which Schitty has a tough time dealing with!!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Politico says:
Trump Will Designate Antifa a Terrorist Organization --- IF HE CAN

President Trump tweeted that the U.S. government would be “designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.”

There were just two problems with that.
First, he doesn’t appear to have the legal authority to do so.
And second, it’s by no means clear the loosely defined group of radical activists is an organization at all.
__________

CNN says:
“Current and former government officials say it would be unconstitutional for the US government to proscribe First Amendment-protected activity inside the US based on simple ideology.”
_______________

James says:
That's why and how the KKK can and does exist among us.

C.H. Truth said...

Arrest report from Saturday night in St Paul:

15 arrests
4 from Minneapolis
7 from St Paul
1 from Blaine
1 from St Michael
2 were from unknown locations.

So at best only two of 15 were from out of town. Yet the Mayor of St Paul suggested that "all" of the people arrested last night were from out of town. Either the Mayor is lying or the media reporting it is lying?

C.H. Truth said...

Why didn't you give us a video of that mayor's remarks, Ch, so we could judge how sincere or insincere he was and is?

So when you tell a complete and total lie... there is some relevance to your "sincerity"?

I am confused at how you liberals justify blatant political rhetoric and lies... but then again, after spending three years lying about the President and his administration being Russian spies, you'll believe anything your told.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

*** NOTICE OF CONSTANT SPAMMING and USE OF TAEGAN GODDARD's POLITICAL_LIRE ***

Regular readers of this blog know the constant spamming, lying and obsession for that left-wing Taegan Goddard blog by a certain poster. That poster james, also called the "pastor" (which he claims to be even if you can't tell by his actions) is the POS responsible and considers his mindless rude behavior his hobby. Sometimes he credits Taegan Goddard, sometimes he doesn't.

He has descended so far into TDS and desperation he fills every discussion thread with what people have described as an avalanche of spam. If this is being posted today is no different. He even gets his edited news from that site and spams that if he thinks it will hurt Trump. Every day he repeats what that site posts, regardless of topic. It gets so bad he feels the need to even repeat his spam multiple times in a single thread as well as posting in every active thread the very same spam.

He has exhibited the same mental deterioration as Joe Biden and his postings should be given the same consideration. Both their heads will probably explode when it becomes obvious that Trump will win a second term. Biden will not even notice his head did.

I'm JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY and I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE
----------
NOTE TO READERS:
--Retired pastor James, an old white POS who will waterboy forever from his ultra-liberal GODdard and savior political_lire's blog.

No matter what the thread topic is.

And will try and do whatever it takes or approve of any means, legal or illegal, to dispose of a duly elected president.



the waterboy is running on overdrive

sounds like he is about to blow his engine

ROFLMFAO !!!

C.H. Truth said...

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1266741567961825284

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Trump War Room
@TrumpWarRoom

Keith Ellison himself is also a fan of Antifa

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1267190466975535104

and his son has pledged support to it. Makes you wonder why the riots started in Minnesota...

Demas are attacking America from within and need to be defeated.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec

Oops

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1267127192330346500


NBA player tweeted "burn that shit down" with picture of burning low income housing development

hours later complaining that his gated community is being attacked including a Starbucks "get these animals the fuck out of my neighborhood. Go back to where you live"


funny how karma works

Trump 2020

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Biden In One of the Beat Positions for Any Challenger
May 31, 2020 at 4:59 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

(Latest Goddard political lire headline.)

The POS "pastor" will probably copy it straight over without even noticing unless they happen to fix b4. Biden in "beat" position.

He actually has been copying more things over than Goddard even posts since he copies to multiple threads.

And he thinks he is sane.

ROFLMFAO !!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

About to blow my engine? Read the following:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

CH SAID:
So at best only two of 15 were from out of town. Yet the Mayor of St Paul suggested that "all" of the people arrested last night were from out of town. Either the Mayor is lying or the media reporting it is lying?
___________

JAMES SAYS:
Ch, do you always only hear what you want to hear?

You do that constantly with me, and constantly accuse me of lying when I am not lying.

Did you not hear the BEGINNING of that interview?

_______

"Joining me now is the mayor of St. Paul, Melvin Carter. Mayor Carter, I want to clarify something. You originally said that every single person arrested Friday night in your city was from out of state. Local news investigation suggests that's not true. You have conceded that, but a bigger question here:
Do you have a better idea of who the people rioting and looting are?..."


And then the interview continues.
___

He conceded that he was wrong about all those persons being from out of state, Ch.

He admitted that he had been mistaken.

But you, Ch, hear only what you want to hear or what you have already made up your mind to hear, and you do it repeatedly.

I think you consciously, dishonestly, distort, which makes you an even bigger liar than Trump, because apparently he often doesn't even KNOW he's lying. That's how far gone he is!

But you're getting there. Fast.

And I bet neither you nor F'n are going to be ROLLING ON THE FLOOR laughing your FAs off about that.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Harry Enten says:
Biden is in One of the Best Positions for Any Challenger

“It’s important to put individual polls into context, and that context continues to show Biden’s in one of the best positions for any challenger since scientific polling began in the 1930s.

“There were more than 40 national public polls taken at least partially in the month of May that asked about the Biden-Trump matchup. Biden led in every single one of them. He’s the first challenger to be ahead of the incumbent in EVERY MAY POLL since Jimmy Carter did so in 1976. Carter, of course, won the 1976 election. Biden’s the only challenger to have the advantage in EVERY MAY POLL OVER AN ELECTED INCUMBENT in the polling era.

“Biden remains the lone challenger to be up in the average of polls in EVERY SINGLE month of the election year. His average lead in a monthly average of polls has never dipped below 4 points and has usually been above it.”
___________

Trump's gotta be fervently wishing he and Giulliani had been able to dispose of Biden with the Ukraine nonsense.

C.H. Truth said...

Actually Reverend...

What happened to Mayor Carter is that he got caught in his lie.

That doesn't excuse it, nor does it change the fact that he came out this morning and demanded what he demanded. He flat out lied and was caught.


Those are two separate incidents.

His statement this mornning.

His being called on it later in the day.


The latter doesn't excuse the former.


And this isn't some opinion about whether or not mail in ballots can cause fraud (there are dozens of studies showing that they do)...

This is a verifiable factual statement that was blatantly incorrect and is not subject to any sort of back and forth opining about which study is more accurate.

99 out of 100 Trump lies are variations of the same "opinions"... and the other one is generally completely irrelevant to anything.


What Mayor Carter said... was part of the narrative that was being pushed across by everyone involved (Carter, Frey, Walz, Ellison) that it attempting to deflect blame to people who are not to blame.

At this point, there is literally no evidence of a single "white supremacist" being part of these riots, much less a group of them, much less white supremacists being responsible for the organization of this.

That is the point here, Reverend...

Just like the fucking Russia lies that our entire country endured for three years. Perpetrated by people we can now tell (based on internal communications) were literally using their law enforcement positions to undermine an incoming administration and get people fired (or arrested).


It's not a comparable situation to arguing about crowd sizes, or mail in ballots or whatever.


We have a country that is battling off more and more riots and attacks... and people are lying and pushing false narratives that will do nothing but perpetuate more riots.

Caliphate4vr said...

The “reverend” is comfortable with lying, we see it every day

anonymous said...

While the UGA loser is comfortable being a flaming asshole every day!!!!!!

BTW...the mayor admitted his error Lil Schitty....Something trump has never done....NOW GET OVER IT...Your brilliance has been proven and you are a big man!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!!

anonymous said...

But, in Lil Schitty's universe....this BULLSHIT is perfectly acceptable!!!!

President Trump on Saturday blamed at-times violent protests that took place across the U.S. a day earlier on Antifa and other left-wing groups -- as Minnesota officials claimed that white supremacists and even drug cartels were involved in stoking violence.


“It’s ANTIFA and the Radical Left. Don’t lay the blame on others!” Trump tweeted Saturday, referring to far-left violent groups who often describe themselves as “anti-fascist.”

MINNESOTA GOVERNOR, MAYOR SLAMMED BY LOCAL PRESS, POLITICIANS FOR RESPONSE TO DEATH, RIOTING

On Friday night, protests and riots broke out across the country in response to the death of Minneapolis man George Floyd's death while in police custody earlier this week. Video emerged of a police officer pressing his knee into Floyd’s neck, what protesters have called another incidence of police brutality against black men.

Caliphate4vr said...

Quiver in place, oh aged diabetic, fatman

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Andrew Surabian
@Surabees

PS: The media had no problem sanctimoniously lecturing Americans who were losing their jobs and businesses about why they must "stay home" nonstop for the past 3 months...So especially now as cities burn, why aren't they doing it anymore? What changed?

dems, media and antifa sleep in the same bed.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...


Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray

Antifa set fire to a homeless man's only possessions. This is how we defeat racism.

VIDEO: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1267216474659147776


how can any moral person support and assist in this ?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Not everyone else agrees with Scott A**hole


https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/05/31/in-some-cities-police-officers-joined-protesters-marching-against-brutality/?utm_campaign=forbes&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_term=Gordie/#676f7264696

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Two of his tweets were blocked by Twitter

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec

The United States Department of Justice has ordered the 56 regional Joint Terrorism Task Forces to identify and apprehend Antifa leaders and their connected groups

guess they forgot to check with Goddard and the POS "pastor"

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Benny
@bennyjohnson

Black Lives Matter activist *shocked* to find pasty white ANTIFA members infiltrating their cause and committing crimes in the name of their movement.

She calls the cowards out & ANTIFA yell at her!

“They’re gonna blame black people for that,” activist says, “You ain’t black!”

VIDEO: https://twitter.com/ultra_Lauren/status/1267164638355079168


Antifa throwing black's UNDER THE BUS and destroying their neighborhoods. Supported by dems and at least some media outlets (CNN)

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Looting and violence weakens the truth that the black man died in an act of murder.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I just now for the first time read Ch's 4:45 crap in response to what I said above at 4:30.

Anyone can watch the video and see that the mayor is telling the truth.

Ch is not.

True, the mayor did state that "all" those arrested were from out of state, and he probably believed that at the time.

But why would he lie, knowing that such a lie would not stand up to questioning?

And he corrected that when he learned better.

He has more integrity than you, Ch.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

And just look at how you went out on a limb in the next thread up.

Sawed it off for you.

Anonymous said...



But why would he lie, knowing that such a lie would not stand up to questioning?


for the same reason that all democrat politicians lie, all the time, about everything. -

there's no downside for them.

if they get away with it, they win.

if they get caught they still win because there's no penalty for being caught in the lie. ever.

look at cuomo. in the early part of the cuomo-virus he was held up by everyone as the consummate statesman and savior to the great state of NY, polling at 80+%.

and then the truth came out. the man was a panicked epic failure. he turned nursing homes into death camps. the official nursing home body count was 6,000+.

it's more like at least 10,000.

he publicly stated that the reason was he followed federal guidelines.

that was a lie corrected by the federal employee in charge of said policy.

cuomo's lies are LEGION. documented and demonstrable. yet he cares not. why?

no downside.

anonymous said...


cuomo's lies are LEGION. documented and demonstrable. yet he cares not. why?


While your hatred and bigotry are indicative of what the GOP has turned to under trump.....the dead mans party!!!!!

anonymous said...


Anonymous Caliphate4vr said...
Quiver in place, oh aged diabetic, batman


Feel better now you pathetic drunk white UGA bigot????? How's things going? Making money yet,,,,,,God you really are the poster boy of stupid!!!!!

Commonsense said...

But why would he lie, knowing that such a lie would not stand up to questioning?

Because the same people who are funding ANTIFA is also funding the Democrat party.