Saturday, June 13, 2020

These sorts of optics always go south over time...

Amazing! Trump Just Got Democrats to Defend a Criminal, Anarchist Mob
I think Donald Trump has great political instincts, and I also think his political adversaries make stupid, unforced errors because he either brings out the worst in them (see Marco Rubio in the 2016 Vegas debate) or he gets them to show their true colors.

I'm not one of those "Trump plays 4D chess while
 everyone else plays checkers" kind of political observer. 

I believe what we are witnessing transpire this week is a perfect case of the latter phenomenon.
In Seattle, a group of armed anarchists have cordoned off a portion of the downtown area and declared it an "Autonomous Zone." Autonomous from Seattle laws and law enforcement. Autonomous from the State of Washington and autonomous from the jurisdiction of the United States federal government.
Inslee tweeted, "I spoke with @MayorJenny and her team about the situation on Capitol Hill. Although unpermitted, and we should remember we are still in a pandemic, the area is largely peaceful. Peaceful protests are fundamentally American, and I am hopeful there will be a peaceful resolution."
It's clear @realDonaldTrump doesn’t understand what’s happening on five square blocks of our City. Cal Anderson and Capitol Hill has for decades been a place for free speech, community, and self expression.

I think the bigger issue here is the question about what happens when political leaders start to believe that they can determine which crimes that they protect against, and which crimes do they promote? Our constitution and laws allow for all the peaceful protest that you want. However, neither the constitution or any laws allow you to take over other people's private property, declare it your own, and have armed guards securing your perimeter like it's a war-zone.

The idea that what is happening within that perimeter is non-violent, doesn't make it legal and peaceful, anymore than an armed bank robber who happens to  spend his stolen money on "good causes" get's to justify the armed robbery as peaceful and legal. It's the original action of forcibly taking and then occupying city and private property against the will of those who live and do business there. Everyday they stay there, they continue to break the law.

Now there are times when the "masses" rise up to meet the day, but this isn't one of them. This is a bunch of spoiled hipsters, with no real leadership, making dozens of unrealistic demands of the city and state, apparently in exchange for giving up the newly found country of "CHAZ". This is otherwise known as terrorism and extortion. Whatever "good feelings" about this situation will continue to erode as the people who live, own businesses, and work there start to feel the hardship, and as a silly situation with no end in sight starts to grate on the nerves of hundreds of people living en mass, sleeping on the ground or in tents, with a increasingly murky end goal.

Right now the city sanitation department is still helping out, and there is certainly support from the like minded people. But internal squabbles have broken out, settled at the end of baseball bats, and people intervening in physical manners. It doesn't take very many problems (or problem people) to disrupt something like this. These are always fragile situations.  Moreover, if it becomes (like occupy wall street became) some sort of battle of wills, then time is not on their side. After all, it's hard to believe that none of these people have jobs or homes or any responsibilities in the real world.

Moreover, if the "community" decides to simply let their protesters come and go, then it realistically no longer becomes a sit in, an political protest, or a simple expression of a cause. It becomes simply an actual illegal occupation of private and public property, maintained conveniently for people who don't have the goods to maintain their actual political will. There can be no "part time" occupation protest. It's all or nothing.

18 comments:

Anonymous said...




seal them in. allow no one to leave. turn off all utilities.

then wait.

the problem solves itself in time. then all that's left is hauling the corpses to the local landfill.


Anonymous said...



Two Brooklyn Residents and a Greene County Resident Indicted in Connection with Molotov Cocktail Attacks on NYPD Vehicles

If convicted on all counts, the defendants face sentences of up to life imprisonment.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/two-brooklyn-residents-and-greene-county-resident-indicted-connection-molotov-cocktail




excellent.


Commonsense said...

Hopefully the will die in a super-max prison. Never to see freedom again.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL:
Officer Who Arrested George Floyd Likely Lied in 2004

“HOUSTON'S TOP PROSECUTOR has concluded that a SCANDAL-RIDDEN FORMER HOUSTON POLICE OFFICER likely lied when he arrested George Floyd on a minor drug offense for which Mr. Floyd served time in state jail.”

Commonsense said...

Things that confuse me.

Why are confederate generals who defended succeeding states called traitors while people who took control of a city and succeeded from the United States are called patriots?

C.H. Truth said...

he arrested George Floyd on a minor drug offense for which Mr. Floyd served time in state jail.


Was that the time that Floyd stuck a loaded pistol in the stomach of a pregnant woman... or one of the other ten times Floyd was arrested?


Maybe you can eventually blame all of Floyd's life choices and time in the slammer as the fault of bad cops?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Nobody is saying that Floyd was a saint or that no charges against him were everf true.

Even so, should a black man or anyone else ever be arrested on a trumped up police lie (IF that was the case*)
or held down by a knee on the neck while begging for breath?
___
*If not the case, why would Houston's "top prosecutor" call it "likely"?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM SAYS
"JOE BIDEN IS AS GOOD A MAN AS GOD EVER CREATED"
BUT TRUMP IS "A XENOPHOBIC, RACE-BAITING, RELIGIOUS BIGOT."

The Huffpost reports he says this in an ad that will run on Fox News in the Charlotte and Greenville markets, reaching both South Carolina and the swing state of North Carolina.

It will also air on Fox News in Washington, D. C.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

HEAR LINDSEY GRAHAM SPEAK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Xpwyd4aMM&feature=youtu.be

Anonymous said...

James said...

Nobody is saying that Floyd was a saint or that no charges against him were everf true.


i disagree, pederast.

floyd IS a saint.

he is the patron saint of every idiot asshole mentally ill leftist on earth.

and speaking of idiot asshole leftists, nice job tearing down all those statues and symbols of our history.

we stand a much better chance of repeating such atrocities if Americans who haven't been born yet have no knowledge of them. brilliant, pederast. just fucking brilliant.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods

“If we lose that flagship precinct (West Precinct), that houses the 911 communications center. Therefore, if that becomes disabled, how do we provide public safety services to the entire city?" // This is what they asked for when they elected these clowns.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/seattle-police-union-chief-city-close-lawlessness

Seattle police union chief says his city is 'closest I've ever seen' to being 'lawless state'

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Did you hear Lindsey Graham speak?

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

Lindsey Graham
@GrahamBlog

Every American should be concerned about the #executiveaction announced by President Obama today.

and boy does he have a bunch more.

Sure glad we kept our guns.

JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY said...

'I'm not going to be stopped': Lindsey Graham gains subpoena power in Crossfire Hurricane investigation
by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter | | June 11, 2020 12:46 PM

“I think we need to look long and hard at how the Mueller investigation got off the rails,” Graham said Thursday.

In response to Democratic critiques, he later said, “It would be a collaborative process, but you’re trying to stop me — and I’m not going to be stopped. ... From my point of view, it sounds like you want to talk about everything except for what we should be talking about."

One point of debate last week was whether to call special counsel Robert Mueller. Democrats urged Graham to call him as a witness as part of his inquiry into Crossfire Hurricane, the code name for the FBI's Russia investigation, which was wrapped into Mueller's effort. Graham warned them to "think twice" about it, but on Thursday, he said if Democrats want to call Mueller “or his designee” to appear before the committee, then “that’s fine with me."

A focus of the inquiry is set on findings by the Justice Department's independent watchdog, who conducted an audit of the FBI's Russia investigation and found that it was initiated without the taint of political bias. But Republicans have raised questions about whether the inquiry was drawn out and subject to leaks as part of an effort to undermine President Trump.

Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s lengthy report, which was released late last year, criticized the Justice Department and the FBI for at least 17 “significant errors and omissions” related to the warrants under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act against Trump campaign associate Carter Page in 2016 and 2017 and for the bureau's reliance on British ex-spy Christopher Steele’s salacious and flawed dossier. Steele put his research together at the behest of the opposition research firm Fusion GPS, funded by Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Declassified footnotes show that Steele's dossier may have been compromised by Russian disinformation.

Anybody who knew about the problems with the dossier and continued to use it are good candidates to go to jail,” Graham said Monday.


“Once we find out that the Mueller investigation was run by people who hated Trump’s guts, dripping with partisanship, nobody seems to care. ‘Well, we can’t figure out if their hatred of Trump had any effect on their actions.’ Well, I don’t think you have to be that smart to put the puzzle together, but we’re going to keep trying,” Graham said last week. “And Mr. Horowitz said he didn’t know if the senior top-level officials at the FBI knew about the subsource disavowing the dossier, but that’s something you would want to know. It matters to me whether or not the number two guy at the FBI, Comey himself, knew the document was no longer reliable and kept using it. And you can’t answer that question — none of you can.”

Got anything more current ?

C.H. Truth said...

Nobody is saying that Floyd was a saint or that no charges against him were everf true.


Just that he is a hero to you, whom you have no issue taking a knee for!

Because you are in favor of people who stick guns in the belly of pregnant women and hate those who put their lives on the line everyday for your safety.

At least if the former is black and the latter is white.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I do appreciate those who faithfully enforce the law and protect us all equally. But those who do some of the things to blacks that we have seen in video after video after video etc., etc., etc. ad nauseum --
they should not even be wearing the uniform. They are a disgrace to it.

C.H. Truth said...

I see, Reverend...

But are you not treating the entire group of national police with total disrespect by demanding that they are all bad and all need to be fundamentally remade... all because of the actions of a few bad apples?

While simultaneously demanding that all of the "peaceful protesters" NOT be judged by the actions of all of the rioters, looters, arsonists, and vandalists or that the main message not be diluted by the underlying violence being created?


Seems hypocritical to me.