Over the past seven days, the number of new hospitalizations in Florida was 1205 (according to Covid Tracking Project). That is an increase from the 1072 reported the week before, but still does not match their peak of nearly 1400 back in mid-May. The number of new deaths was 252. Which was up last week by approximately 30 deaths, but it is still down from the peak numbers back in May.
One has to keep in mind, that the "peak" in Florida was never what it was in most states. Their total deaths per million (158) puts them 28th place in the nation. That number is dwarfed by states like New York and New Jersey which has over ten times the amount of death per million (1699, 1617).
Nobody likes the fact that cases seem to be "spiking" in several states, but the explanations seem to concede that the number of cases are not correlating or causing the same degree of hospitalizations or deaths that earlier positive case results were providing. Perhaps this is due to more testing, more lightly symptomatic people being tested, or the fact that this increase in positive testing is largely driven by the millennial age group (who seem less susceptible to the effects).
But at the end of the day, this has seemingly provided more fodder for certain people to point fingers at those they feel are not doing the proper things in weighing the effects of the virus with the effects of the economic impact. But it's especially raw when you have a Governor (Cuomo) who many believe put policies in place that led to thousands of deaths, criticizing other states whom are sitting with fatality rates less than a tenth of his.
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Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
Most of the media somehow missed this (shocker!) - but on Thursday @ameracadpeds - the national umbrella organization of 67,000 US pediatricians - called for schools to reopen with “students physically present.” https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/clinical-guidance/covid-19-planning-considerations-return-to-in-person-education-in-schools/
They probably will quickly be shut down as a "hate group" with misinformation. Dem politicians disagree.
POLITICO SAYS:
Super-Spreading Churches Are Next Problem
June 28, 2020 at 7:50 am EDT
“One month after President Trump ordered the nation’s governors to immediately reopen churches, his administration is facing a difficult dilemma,” Politico reports.
“Clusters of Covid-19 cases are surfacing in counties across the U.S. where in-person religious services have resumed, triggering questions about whether his administration should reassess its campaign to treat houses of worship the same as other essential businesses, or leave them alone and risk additional transmission of the deadly coronavirus — including in communities that are largely supportive of the president.”
_______
JAMES COMMENTS:
WHAT IF HUGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE START GETTING SICK AND/OR DYING AS A RESULT OF CHURCHES OPENING UP AND PACKING IN TOGETHER?
WHAT IF THAT HAPPENS AS WELL AS A RESULT OF TRUMP'S RALLIES?
“Clusters of Covid-19 cases are surfacing in counties across the U.S.
that's nice.
hospitalizations and deaths is what matters, pederast.
positive test results, not so much.
if the number of covid "cases" ever reaches the number of TDS cases, then we'll have something to worry about.
so go hide under your bed.
oh, and go fuck yourself.
Many people who attend churches are elderly.
Thinks about it.
THE WASHINGTON POST SAYS:
Trump Wasted the Sacrifice of the Shutdown
“President Trump — who has repeatedly downplayed the virus, sidelined experts and misled Americans about its dangers and potential cures — now finds his presidency wracked by an inability to shepherd the country through its worst public health calamity in a century.
“The dysfunction that has long characterized Trump’s White House has been particularly ill-suited for a viral outbreak that requires precision, focus and steady leadership, none of which this White House can offer.”
THE NEW YORK TIMES SAYS:
The Trump Strategy Is Not Working
“More than four months into fighting the coronavirus in the United States, the shared sacrifice of millions of Americans suspending their lives — with jobs lost, businesses shuttered, daily routines upended — has not been enough to beat back a virus whose staying power around the world is only still being grasped.”
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ANNOUNCES:
The number of U.S. coronavirus cases hit another daily record.
"Thinks" about it?
No, but you HAD better thank about it.
The Fed response was actually quite good. Dems just want to repeat a lie over and over. Like Bush lied.
Thr shutdown saved possibly millions of lives. But it cannot stay shut down for much longer. Meanwhile Trump, Pence and tbe task Force have vaccine research going on across the country. And they're all working with state govs. As it all should be.
When the history of this pandemic is written,
Fox News and blogs like this will bear a tremendous share
of the guilt for the deaths of so many.
--Yes, I, James, say that.
HERE'S WHAT THE WASHINGTON POST SAYS:
Fox News Kept Millions from Taking the Virus Seriously
"Three serious research efforts have put numerical weight — yes, data-driven evidence — behind what many suspected all along:
Americans who relied on Fox News, or similar right-wing sources, were duped as the coronavirus began its deadly spread.
Dangerously duped.
“Those who relied on mainstream sources — the network evening newscasts or national newspapers that President Trump constantly blasts as ‘fake news’ — got an accurate assessment of the pandemic’s risks. Those were the news consumers who were more likely to respond accordingly, protecting themselves and others against the disease that has now killed more than 123,000 in the United States with no end in sight.
“Those who relied on Fox
or, say, radio personality Rush Limbaugh,
came to believe
that vitamin C was a possible remedy,*
that the Chinese government created the virus in a lab,** and
that government health agencies were exaggerating the dangers in the hopes of damaging Trump politically.***”
*WRONG. **WRONG. ***WRONG.
Any one who tries to argue that Trump handled this as well as it should have been handled will simply not be able to convince objective observers of that.
NO WAY. NEVER. EVER.
hey alky,
outgoing DNI richard grenell just shredded your NYT russian bounties tale:
trump and pence were NEVER briefed and the only corroboration of the tale is from anonymous sources. as usual for the NYT.
LOL.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/06/28/disgusting-how-you-politicize-intelligence-richard-grenell-owns-ted-lieu-in-heated-debate-over-nyt-russian-bounties-story/
you've been punked, alky.
again.
LOL.
Blogger James said...
Any one who tries to argue that Trump handled this as well as it should have been handled will simply not be able to convince objective observers of that.
NO WAY. NEVER. EVER.
no politician killed more covid patients than Cuomo.
NO ONE. EVER. EVER.
Fox news? Or China and the WHO? Be intelligent enough to place blame where 8t belongs. I could blame Pelosi for downplaying tbe virus by telling the coyntry to come to Chinatown in Feb. But I don't. I prefer to not be the narrow minded partisan stooge that you seem to revel in.
With all due Respect Reverend...
anywhere in the media where they are putting Governor Cuomo on a pedestal for his wonderful response to Covid will be historical laughingstocks (or worse) when the history is finally written on this.
The media can fool some of the people (liberals) all of the time, some of the people (independents) some of the time, but they cannot fool all of the people all of the time.
The facts are the facts are the facts are the facts are the facts.
Facts are that unless deaths dramatically increase over the next few weeks, this was largely a deep blue state death health crisis and will likely lead to a disparagingly deep blue state economic crisis to boot.
Can't change the numbers, Reverend!
Can only "try" to temporarily change perceptions by trying to hide the numbers.
The news sources which I read on the planet where I live, Ch,
reported that Cuomo made errors in some of his earlier responses to the pandemic, but soon corrected course and acted effectively and with commendable success against the spread.
Be intelligent enough to place blame where 8t belongs
He’s fucking dumb
With the above principles in mind, the AAP strongly advocates that all policy considerations for the coming school year should start with a goal of having students physically present in school.
https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/clinical-guidance/covid-19-planning-considerations-return-to-in-person-education-in-schools/
and another bullshit narrative from the pederast goes down in flames.
I just read rat's link at 10:09.
It's going to take a LOT more than that weak argument, rattypoop.
but soon corrected course and acted effectively and with commendable success against the spread.
by never shutting down the MTA (subways) and by forcing nursing homes to take elderly covid patients (a death sentence).
yep.
no one single politician killed as EFFECTIVELY and with such COMMENDABLE SUCCESS like Cuomo.
NO ONE.
Dr Mengele himself would be proud of Governor Andrew 'Angel of Death' Cuomo.
GET REAL, FOLKS!
Azar Says ‘Window Is Closing’ to Control Virus
Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar told CNN that the “window is closing” for the U.S. to take action and get the coronavirus under control, calling the current state of the outbreak a “very, very serious situation.”
____________
Americans Say Fight Against Virus Going Badly
A new CBS News poll finds record numbers of Americans — 62% — say efforts against the coronavirus outbreak are going badly, including new highs saying efforts are going very badly.
Meanwhile, President Trump receives his lowest marks for handling the pandemic since it began; and the outlook for the summer is grim. Twice as many expect the outbreak to worsen, rather than improve.”
You can believe in the Washington POSt who spent three years peddling a false Russian/Trump collusion HOAX using "anonymous sources" and has ignored factual evidence of Obama spying and interference in the opposition party campaign
Or you can believe in the truth.
Shouldn't the Washington POSt dox their lying "anonymous sources" who lied to them ?
And shouldn't they use factual numbers?
James is talking out his ass. I am in NY. My brother in law is CEO of a nursing home system. They were all begging Cuomo to rescind his disastrous nursing home policy. Mobths ago. And he refused, forcing them to take positive patients. They all had to set up separate isolated wings in their facilities. Cuomo finally backed down because even other democrats were telling him to.
reported that Cuomo made errors in some of his earlier responses to the pandemic, but soon corrected course and acted effectively and with commendable success against the spread.
Boy Reverend...
That sounds an awful lot like a bunch of words put together without a single statistic, number, or fact.
History will show that New York had nearly 300,000 cases and 32,000 dead.
300,000 case 32,000 dead!
300,000 case 32,000 dead!
300,000 case 32,000 dead!
300,000 case 32,000 dead!
300,000 case 32,000 dead!
300,000 case 32,000 dead!
300,000 case 32,000 dead!
300,000 case 32,000 dead!
This appears to be a "real" statistic that nobody can really argue with.
You type an opinion that is delusional at best.
https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1277239523131510784
I believe Trump retweeted a longer version of this video but has now taken it down. Why?
Azar Says ‘Window Is Closing’ to Control Virus
June 28, 2020 at 11:23 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Americans Say Fight Against Virus Going Badly
June 28, 2020 at 11:21 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Fox News Kept Millions from Taking Virus Seriously
June 28, 2020 at 10:45 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Super-Spreading Churches Are the Next Problem
June 28, 2020 at 7:50 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Trump Wasted the Sacrifice of the Shutdown
June 27, 2020 at 8:32 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
Most Republicans Think Worst of Pandemic Is Over
June 27, 2020 at 5:44 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
I wonder where the lying POS "pastor" is getting his material from today?
This is like all those stories where one football team runs up a 35-0 halftime lead...
and then when they only win 42-7
The winners are called losers and the team that scored 7 points (but still lost by a wide margin) is declared the winner.
You will hear ESPN run it as the lead story!
The Cowboys made errors in some of his earlier responses to the Giants, but soon corrected course and acted effectively and with commendable success against the Giants... came back to only lose by 35!!!
While everyone across the country attacks the Giant coach for having been up 35 points but only winning by 35.
Hey, Ch, get this through your head. NYC and NY state started out with tremendous numbers of cases because they are a major air traffic hub. But they took drastic measures which have brought about a decline in numbers of cases and of deaths.
Meanwhile you keep calling for even more opening up of the very places where we now see cases surging and spiking.
Myballs said...
James is talking out his ass. I am in NY. My brother in law is CEO of a nursing home system. They were all begging Cuomo to rescind his disastrous nursing home policy. Mobths ago. And he refused, forcing them to take positive patients. They all had to set up separate isolated wings in their facilities. Cuomo finally backed down because even other democrats were telling him to.
Cuomo should actually be facing prosecution for his actions and inactions.
James, NYC has been a mess and disaster all along. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
They were all begging Cuomo to rescind his disastrous nursing home policy. Mobths ago. And he refused, forcing them to take positive patients.
but what he DID do was shield guys like your brother in law from liability. largely because the nursing home association is a mega-donor.
In the chaotic days of late March, as it became clear that New York was facing a catastrophic outbreak of the coronavirus, aides to Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo quietly inserted a provision on Page 347 of New York’s final, voluminous budget bill.
Many lawmakers were unaware of the language when they approved the budget a few days later. But it provided unusual legal protections for an influential industry that has been devastated by the crisis: nursing home operators.
The measure, lobbied for by industry representatives, shielded nursing homes from many lawsuits over their failure to protect residents from death or sickness caused by the coronavirus.
[...]
“For us to change the liability standard without any discussion is borderline criminal,” said Mr. Kim, who voted against the budget for other reasons. “It’s ridiculous. Why would anyone comply with rules if they felt like they couldn’t be touched?”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/nyregion/nursing-homes-coronavirus-new-york.html?auth=login-email&login=email
THIS is how evil and depraved cuomo really is.
New York State is doing so well they are considering requiring people who come from other states where there are hot spots surging and spiking to quarantine after arriving.
Hey, Ch, get this through your head. NYC and NY state started out with tremendous numbers of cases because they are a major air traffic hub. But they took drastic measures which have brought about a decline in numbers of cases and of deaths.
They fucked up early, often, and late...
FUCKED UP ROYALLY!!!
My mistake - it's 416,000 cases - not 300,000
416,000 cases 32,000 dead!
416,000 cases 32,000 dead!
416,000 cases 32,000 dead!
416,000 cases 32,000 dead!
416,000 cases 32,000 dead!
416,000 cases 32,000 dead!
416,000 cases 32,000 dead!
416,000 cases 32,000 dead!
Now, if you think "History" will write this as a success for New York and a failure for all the states with 10% of the deaths....
Then believe it all you want.
It only proves my point.
The media can fool liberals ALL THE TIME !!!!
I mean seriously...
what sort of moron do you have to be where you see 416,000 cases and 32,000 dead and say... yeah, they did a great job!
and it's all because they have an airport! Because nobody else has an airport!
APPARENTLY EVEN TRUMP --EVEN TRUMP! -- IS NOW ADMITTING WHAT YOU GUYS REFUSE TO SEE:
POLITICO SAYS:
Trump Admits He’s Losing
“The president has privately come to that grim realization in recent days… amid a mountain of bad polling and warnings from some of his staunchest allies that he’s on course to be a one-term president.”
Hey, Ch, get this through your head. NYC and NY state started out with tremendous numbers of cases because they are a major air traffic hub.
WRONG.
NYC yes, but Upstate NY? a resounding NO.
Cuomo is such a despicable and stupid fuck he settled on a one size fits all policy for the entire state. counties north and west of the city recorded zero deaths and cases that numbered in the teens. the stupid bastard destroyed already fragile economies in upstate simply to satisfy his out-sized ego.
he's a fucking imbecile and a tyrant who couldn't successfully run a fucking lemonade stand if his life depended on it.
it's no wonder liberals worship his worthless ass.
So, you (Denny) trolled a fake sickness in Goodland to attempt to gain personal information about me.
Creepy behavior old man.
Dopie Confirmed he is doing it.
Blogger James said...
New York State is doing so well they are considering requiring people who come from other states where there are hot spots surging and spiking to quarantine after arriving.
i live here stupid. that's an empty gesture aimed at florida and we KNOW it. desantis has been making cuomo look like a fucking fool, so the quarantine is retaliation. and it's not even enforceable.
large swaths of our economy remain under lockdown because cuomo is a fucking simpleton.
once again pederast you go out of your way to illustrate the fact that you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Re: 10:50
I guess it has to be partly because his own internal polling is telling him that...
*** BREAKING NEWS !!! ***
Trump Admits He’s Losing
June 28, 2020 at 11:34 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Oops, sorry I see the lying plagiarizing POS "pastor" beat me to it.
The Goddard string master sure has control of him. He's the "pastor's" true God and he hangs on his every word.
Coldheartedtruth Exclusive News Flash!
There is no election in June of 2020!!!
What fucking Idiot Marxist wrote this steaming pile of Stupid.
đŸ˜†quarantine after arriving.đŸ¤£
Jamesneverapastor, I see you for what you are.
Justin Hart
@justin_hart
Y'all! Please don't freak out about rising cases.
"Who" is getting #COVID19 matters!
- Avg. age for cases in Florida: 38 vs 52
- Diff in hospitalization rate: 4% vs. 15%
- Known case fatality rate: 0.4% vs. 4%
June data will change but the virus has to work EXTRA hard to kill.
GRAPHIC: https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1276928267707023360
---
Chart is my own handy work. Full data screenshot. Keep in mind, these are infections by EventDate (which is as close as FL can get to infection date. June data will change as deaths take time but hospitalization is pretty close to this.
Data source here: https://open-fdoh.hub.arcgis.com/datasets/florida-covid19-case-line-data?selectedAttribute=EventDate
GRAPHIC: https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1276932400753209344
Thank God we don't have to rely on the MSM and the Washington POSt.
Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
It is beyond incredible that @nygovcuomo - who runs a state where almost 1/4 of all US #Covid deaths occurred - more than California, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Ohio, and Texas combined! - presumes to give anyone advice about anything except mom’s meatballs.
Marxist Democrats boycott the 4th of July.
After all it is a day of hatered for you'll.
James, rat and I both live in NY. Don't try to tell us what's happening here. We see it and live it daily.
Marxist Hero's
"WASHINGTON – Lee Michael Cantrell, 47, of Virginia; Connor Matthew Judd, 20, of Washington, D.C.; Ryan Lane, 37, of Maryland; and Graham Lloyd, 37, of Maine, were charged by criminal complaint yesterday with destruction of federal property".
The number of coronavirus infections in many parts of the United States is more than 10 times higher than the reported rate, according to data released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The analysis is part of a wide-ranging set of surveys started by the CDC to estimate how widely the virus has spread. Similar studies, sponsored by universities, national governments and the World Health Organization, are continuing all over the world.
The CDC study found, for instance, that in South Florida, just under 2% of the population had been exposed to the virus as of April 10, but the proportion is likely to be higher now given the surge of infections in the state. The prevalence was highest in New York City at nearly 7% as of April 1.
“This study underscores that there are probably a lot of people infected without knowing it, likely because they have mild or asymptomatic infection,” said Dr. Fiona Havers, who led the CDC study. “But those people could still spread it to others.”
She emphasized the importance of hand-washing, wearing cloth masks and social distancing to stop the spread of the virus from people without symptoms.
The numbers indicate that even in areas hit hard by the virus, an overwhelming majority of people have not yet been infected, said Scott Hensley, a viral immunologist at the University of Pennsylvania who was not involved in the research.
“Many of us are sitting ducks who are still susceptible to second waves,” he said.
The difference between recorded infections and the actual prevalence in the data was highest in Missouri, where about 2.65% of the population was infected with the virus as of April 26, although many people might not have felt sick. This number is about 24 times the reported rate: nearly 162,000 compared with the 6,800 thought to have been infected by then.
Less testing
President Trump
https://news.yahoo.com/actual-coronavirus-infections-vastly-undercounted-151300720.html?soc_src=yahooapp
New York reported only 6 deaths from the virus yesterday.
Governor Cuomo is a successful governor.
Trump took down white power tweet after being criticized by Senator Scott of South Carolina.
New York reported only 6 deaths from the virus yesterday
Actually they reported 31 deaths yesterday according to CTP and WOM.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
That was still more deaths than Florida which reported 26 deaths.
White power
President Trump promoted a video Sunday that includes a Trump supporter saying “white power” while facing off with counterprotesters, calling his supporters at the Florida retirement community where the demonstration occurred “great people.”
The tweet of the video has since been removed.
The video of a pro-Trump golf cart parade in the Villages, a retirement community in central Florida, includes counterprotesters calling the president a bigot. The video shows Trump supporters and opponents facing off in screaming matches filled with expletives and insults.
“Thank you to the great people of The Villages. The Radical Left Do Nothing Democrats will Fall in the Fall. Corrupt Joe is shot. See you soon!!!” Trump tweeted, as he shared the video that opens with an elderly white man in a golf cart decorated with Trump signs being heckled by a counterprotester who asks “where’s your white hood?” The man responds by twice saying “white power” as a woman beside him chants “Trump! Trump!”
I'm sure that the racist rodent bastard supporters such behavior.
In April the state of New York reported over 600 deaths per day.
I stand corrected on the actual number.
Of 31
Consider Governor Cuomo
And the racism keeps coming...to distract & control the news cycle cuz impeached Trump was getting killed on the Sunday morning news programs for his failure to admit and act on Russians putting a bounty on US troops in Afghanistan.
Here's how Trump's morning went:
5:30 AM Tweet denials about Russian bounty on US troops (saying both he didn't know about the intel AND that it wasn't true)
8:00 AM Retweet racist video
9:10 AM Leave White House for his private golf club*
10:02 AM Arrive at his private golf club
11:00 AM Delete racist video
11:24 AM White House spox** claims Trump didn't know about the racism in the video***
*Trump said Friday he would be staying in DC. He went to his private golf club in VA both Saturday and Sunday.
**Trump hires the worst people.
***Staffers queue videos and Tweets and such for Trump to OK and/or send via the drafts folder. So we are supposed to believe that his staff didn't watch the entire video posted by some random Trump troll? They just allowed him to post a racist dog whistle and suddenly delete and deny? We call this IMPLAUSIBLE deniability.
https://youtu.be/NOI3ycbaCaE
It has been two days and @realDonaldTrump
and his Administration still have NOT denied the specific allegation—confirmed by multiple press reports—that Russia paid militants to kill US troops in Afghanistan. And instead of confronting Putin, what did @POTUS
do? He went golfing.
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1276965068048158720?s=09
5:30 AM Tweet denials about Russian bounty on US troops (saying both he didn't know about the intel AND that it wasn't true)
30 minutes later the same senile poster
Blogger Roger Amick said...
It has been two days and @realDonaldTrump
and his Administration still have NOT denied the specific allegation
Put down the PBR and think for yourself.
You’re the one incapable of remembering what he posted 30 minutes later.
The opiates have turned you to mush
Anonymous Caliphate4vr said...
You’re the one incapable of remembering what he posted 30 minutes later
The mouth of the south and preexisting drunkard again projecting how weak he really is.....BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Have another cock tail!!!!!!
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