Another story largely ignored by the MSM is some new analysis by the CDC that shows that the vast majority of death certificates that claim Covid-19 as the cause of death, also show other causes as well. In fact the average causes of death listed on a death certificate associated to Covid-19 is 3.6 causes.
So a person dies from a heart attack, but tests positive for Covid, the death certificate would list heart attack, probably an underlying heart condition or two, and then add Covid to the list. The fact that the actual death was a heart attack or lung failure and would generally be associated with heart or lung disease does not exclude that death from being listed as a Covid-19 death for reporting purposes.
We've known for some time that the vast majority of people who have died from Covid had "pre-existing conditions" or were otherwise immune deficient. What we didn't know is that many of these same people have died from direct causes of those pre-existing conditions, but have been listed as a Covid-19 death.
In terms of people who have caught Covid and simply died from Covid, there are less than 10,000 reported death certificates that only show Covid as the cause of death. That is a remarkable statistic when you take everything into consideration.
Now none of this is to say that Covid hasn't had a large effect on people. Many of these people with heart or lung conditions may not have passed had it not been for catching Covid. In many cases very sick people with serious heart or lung conditions get to the point where any sort of additional illness (whether it be the seasonal flu or a bad cold bug) will trigger events that lead to death. Many of these Covid deaths (based on the demographics and death certificates) were entirely based on that circumstances and them catching the Covid virus (rather than the flu or another ailment).
This is why there is such a run on nursing home and assisted living community deaths. A vast portion of those people have the very underlying conditions that makes their next major bout with any virus or illness potentially fatal. In 2020, it just happened to be Covid that was the trigger.
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You do realize that you contribute to the endangerment of lives by the spin you constantly give this matter. Of maybe not.
Without continual growth and progress, such words as improvement, achievement, and success have no meaning.
If a person has underlying conditions, the chances of death, are greatly increased by the COVID-45 virus.
Trumpism is incredibly dangerous, because people lie about dangerous conditions that can cause death of innocent people.
President Trump and his cronies are like the cartoon villains in movies who not only unleash dastardly plots but then helpfully explain them to the audience. Thus on Thursday, the president’s outgoing counselor, Kellyanne Conway, told Fox News: “The more chaos and anarchy and vandalism and violence reigns, the better it is for the very clear choice on who’s best on public safety and law and order.”
Last week, new guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention scaled back the number of tests being completed for the virus, forgoing testing for those who weren’t displaying symptoms but had been in contact with someone infected with the virus. One effect of this would be a political benefit for Trump, reducing the number of recorded coronavirus cases. Another effect would be to increase the transmission of the virus, as asymptomatic people can still infect others if not quarantined.
You do realize that you contribute to the endangerment of lives by the spin you constantly give this matter.
Well Reverend... better talk to Fauci and the CDC then... they are the ones tracking and releasing this information.
I suppose we could all continue to pretend that this is the black plague and that the median age of death is not over 80 years old. We could pretend that everyone and anyone without a mask is in immediate mortal danger.
But of course, that would be a lie...
But a little white lie, huh? In order to justify government control?
Last week, new guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control
And in response we had 737K, 760K, 772K, 742K new tests in the past four days... an increase from the previous week.
Our thought bubble, via Axios' Sam Baker: This report doesn't mean that COVID isn't as bad as we thought. It's clear from the CDC's statistics on excess deaths that more people are dying than usual, because of COVID. The fact that common pre-existing medical conditions often coincide with deadly coronavirus infections is part of what makes it scary — not a reason to write it off.
Of note: Twitter removed a post earlier Sunday retweeted by President Trump for violating its rules with a false interpretation of the CDC's novel coronavirus data.
The post incorrectly claimed the CDC had "quietly" updated its data "to admit that only 6%" of those listed in the U.S. coronavirus death toll "actually died from COVID" and that "the other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses," CNN notes.
The post by a supporter of a baseless conspiracy theory has since been deleted.
Reality check: While the cause of death listed as solely from the coronavirus occurred in 6% of cases in the U.S. from Feb. 1 to Aug. 22, this doesn't mean that the virus was not a contributing factor or, indeed, the leading cause in the other 94%. The U.S. virus death toll would be much lower if this were the case.
It's well established that people with underlying medical conditions are at increased risk of severe illness from COVID-19.
"People can live with obesity, diabetes or heart disease for years but then get infected with COVID-19 and die quickly," CNN points out.
For the record: For deaths with conditions or causes as well as COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death, according to the CDC.
Bloggers have been used to spread false information.
Twitter removed a post earlier Sunday retweeted by President Trump for violating its rules with a false interpretation of the CDC's novel coronavirus data.
Blogspot should remove your false accusations
The democrats are suddenly losing a whole generation of college and high school kids not out protesting but wanting to get on with a meaningful life without the Covid lockdowns and restrictions.
Will build a strong Republican base going forward.
FANTASTIC NEWS !!!
Scott, you are spreading false accusations that may cause the death of innocent and gullible individuals.
Twitter took down this shit
Washington — Twitter on Sunday removed a tweet shared by President Trump that contained false information about coronavirus statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), with the company saying it violated its rules.
The tweet was originally posted by Twitter user "Mel Q," a supporter of the unfounded QAnon conspiracy theory, and retweeted by Mr. Trump on Sunday. The post claimed the CDC "quietly updated the Covid number" to show a small fraction of all deaths — 6% — from the coronavirus were "actually" a result of COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. The vast majority of deaths, the post claimed, were because of "other serious illnesses."
We have to be careful about this shit
"People can live with obesity, diabetes or heart disease for years but then get infected with COVID-19 and die quickly," CNN points out.
Especially when they are over 80 years old....
But very, very few young people are dying:
0-24 - 330
25-34 - 1241
35-44 - 3228
45-54 - 8501
Total under 55 - 13,300 or approximately 8% of all deaths.
Total under 45 - 4799 or approximately 2.9% of all deaths.
That is just a factual statement not open to any interpretation.
Young people are simply not dying... no matter what CNN tries to tell you.
Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
Friday is the DOJ's soft "60-day" deadline for Durham to make prosecutorial announcements in his #Spygate probe or to file an interim report detailing the search-and-destroy campaign the Obama-Biden administration launched against Donald Trump in 2016 ...
could be interesting...
Why didn't twitter take down any of the FAKE NEWS Russia collusion posts ???
Why does twitter regularly take down conservatives but leave up antifa and violent left wing groups?
Big Tech loves censorship and controlling the narrative.
Cernovich
@Cernovich
The SPLC has refused to list ANTIFA as an extremist group.
This despite the fact that the SPLC had perviously included Dr. Ben Carson on its list.
Several SPLC researchers are affiliated with ANTIFA.
The truth is the Southern Poverty Law Center is itself a hate group. Big Tech uses them to attack conservatives.
Well the 6% figure is a simple fact.
Why in the world do we want to censor simple facts?
Once you figure that out... you will understand why more and more Americans are becoming fed up with state issued lock downs and executive mandates that are tossed around at the whim of a variety of Governors who now see themselves as almost deities without a need to answer to anyone.
Just a few months ago the President said that John Kelly was being abused by the free press.
He will have a tweeter tirade.
The former White House chief of staff John Kelly had a vivid simile for the experience of refusing President Donald Trump's requests, according to an upcoming book.
The book, "Donald Trump v. The United States," said that Kelly, a former Marine Corps general, has said that having to say no to Trump "was like 'French kissing a chainsaw,'" per an Axios report.
"Kelly has told others that Trump wanted to behave like an authoritarian and repeatedly had to be restrained and told what he could and could not legally do," the book says, according to Axios.
The Flynn persecution continues... Unbelievable but Sullivan gets to continue.
Kelly was a never-Trumper you idiot, he should never have joined Trump's administration.
What a Stupid Socialist.
"James August 31, 2020 at 10:13 AM
You do realize that you contribute to the endangerment of lives by the spin you constantly give this matter. Of maybe not"
Facts are dangerous to effeminate James.
Scott, you say that you are against too much government power.
The President has been threatening to use combat forces to impose martial law in states with Democratic governments.
Hypocrisy squared again
Roger, you fucked up.
Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
BREAKING: Among the rioters Kamala Harris helped bail out is a suspect who shot at police, a woman accused of killing a friend, and a twice-convicted sex offender
https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/31/meet-the-rioting-criminals-kamala-harris-helped-bail-out-of-jail/
good job cumala, you're locking up the pedophile and sex offender votes.
But can you win a presidential election from home?” Muir asked Biden during an interview Friday in Wilmington, Delaware.
“We will,” Biden said. “We're gonna follow the science, what the scientists tell us."
What science changed?
Answer : Political Science
"The Oregonian said:
A 48-year-old man who was accused of carrying a loaded gun at an earlier downtown Portland protest is under investigation in the fatal shooting Saturday night of a right-wing demonstrator after a pro-Trump rally.
Michael Forest Reinoehl calls himself an anti-fascist and has posted videos and photos of demonstrations he attended since late June, accompanied by the hashtags #blacklivesmatter, #anewnation and #breonnataylor."
Well, that is a special kind of Liberal.
More active-duty U.S. troops say they’ll vote for former Vice President Joseph R. Biden than President Trump in the November election, a new poll shows, continuing a steady decline in the commander in chief’s favorability ratings among service members.
A Military Times survey released Monday found that if the election were held today, 41% of active-duty troops say they’d vote for Mr. Biden, compared to just 37% for the president. Another 13% said they intend to back a third-party candidate, while 9% said they’d skip the presidential election altogether. The Military Times surveyed 1,018 active-duty troops for the poll.
It is no secret that most white evangelical Christians in the country voted for Donald Trump in 2016. But one recent survey Fox News poll finds that, if the election were tomorrow, his margin of victory with white evangelical voters would be 38 points, dramatically down from his advantage of 61 points over Hillary Clinton. Evangelical voters are having second thoughts.
Roger, why are you here?
You cried, broken and left in high drama.
Sleepy Joe
https://twitter.com/JTHVerhovek/status/1300454786966355969?s=19
Richard Grenell
@RichardGrenell
No press questions, no press complaints.
https://twitter.com/JTHVerhovek/status/1300454786966355969
WOW, they went to great lengths to make sure Biden didn't have to interact with anyone... What is he afraid of ???
And why does the press accept this ???
He hasn't done a real press event in like forever... and never multiple ones all day...
But he can run up 10 steps holding the rail.
Impressive !!!
ROFLMFAO !!!
Trump might be in jail after the election.
A federal judge can scrutinize the Justice Department’s decision to drop the criminal case against President Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn, a federal appeals court in Washington ruled Monday, allowing the legal saga to continue.
The divided decision from the full U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit gives U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan the go ahead to question prosecutors’ unusual move to dismiss Flynn’s case ahead of sentencing. The retired general twice pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his Russian contacts before Trump took office in 2017.
In an 8-to-2 ruling, the court denied Flynn’s request, backed by the Justice Department, to shutdown Sullivan’s planned review and appointment of a retired federal judge to argue against the government’s position.
The decision by the full court reverses an earlier ruling by a three-judge panel of the same court that ordered Sullivan to immediately close the case.
A brief order from the court published Monday indicated forthcoming dissents from Judges Karen Henderson and Neomi Rao.
In May, Sullivan refused to immediately sign off on the Justice Department’s request to toss the case. Instead he tapped John Gleeson, a retired New York federal judge, to oppose the Justice Department.
Sullivan’s move prompted Flynn’s defense team to petition the D.C. Circuit to get involved midstream and force the judge’s hand. Sullivan hired his own lawyer to defend the court’s authority to investigate whether dismissing the case is in the public interest.
The extraordinary legal battle has raised unsettled questions about the power of the courts to check the executive branch. Federal rules require prosecutors to get permission from the presiding judge — or “leave of court” — to drop charges against a criminal defendant. Legal experts and former judges, however, disagree about the limits of Sullivan’s authority, and in practice, judges typically defer to prosecutors.
ELIJAH RIOT
@ElijahSchaffer
The most important video of 2020:
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1300290897922453504
Imagine republicans talking this way...
Trump spoke about the killer but not about the black skin people
BREAKING: White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said Monday that President Trump has not yet spoken to members of Jacob Blake’s family, despite the administration attempting to reach out to them. McEnany said on “Fox & Friends” that Trump is not currently planning to meet with Blake’s family during a trip to Kenosha, Wis., on Tuesday.
“We are efforting outreach, have not been able to connect yet. So tomorrow the plan is so far to go and to meet with law enforcement and to look at the damage from the riots, but we are holding his family close to our hearts."
Racist Roger Amick said...
Trump spoke about the killer but not about the black skin people
Only racists look at people by the color of their skin.
Sleepy Joe will be speaking soon.
He's trying to remind the people, that the President is the reason for the violence and riots.
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Biden to ask in Pennsylvania: ‘Does anyone believe there will be less violence’ if Trump wins?
by Jonathan Tamari, Posted: 27 minutes ago
Biden to ask in Pennsylvania: ‘Does anyone believe there will be less violence’ if Trump wins?
ANDREW HARNIK / AP
Joe Biden on Monday will blame President Donald Trump for the increasingly deadly violence that has rippled through protests and counter-protests in the past week, accusing Trump of fueling the division now bloodying American streets.
“This president long ago forfeited any moral leadership in this country. He can’t stop the violence — because for years he has fomented it,” the Democratic nominee for president, plans to say in Pittsburgh, according to excerpts released by his campaign. “He may believe mouthing the words law and order makes him strong, but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia in this country shows you how weak he is. Does anyone believe there will be less violence in America if Donald Trump is reelected?”
You do!
Scroll down the article to the video. You don't have to listen to any of it - just watch how impeached Trump is walking. He swings out his right leg and is dragging his right foot.
#TrumpIsUnwell
I'll see if i can find a different source.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8677457/amp/Trump-surveys-Hurricane-Laura-damage-Louisiana-says-knows-state-rebuild-fast.html
Roger is back.
At least trump isn’t locked up in assisted living
I'm not locked up
Joe Biden will excoriate President Donald Trump as having "long ago forfeited any moral leadership in this country" and as someone who "can’t stop the violence — because for years he has fomented it" in a speech Monday.
"He may believe mouthing the words law and order makes him strong, but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia in this country shows you how weak he is," the Democratic presidential nominee will say, according to excerpts released by the Biden campaign. "Does anyone believe there will be less violence in America if Donald Trump is reelected?"
Biden will then pivot to addressing what he sees as "multiple crises" that, "under Donald Trump, keep multiplying."
"COVID. Economic devastation. Unwarranted police violence. Emboldened white nationalists. A reckoning on race. Declining faith in a bright American future," Biden will say. "The common thread? An incumbent president who makes things worse, not better. An incumbent president who sows chaos rather than providing order."
#BidenHarris2020
President Joe Biden is tearing Trump into pieces!
President Joe Biden is tearing Trump into pieces!
"Does anyone believe there will be less violence in America if Donald Trump is reelected?"
And God bless our troops!
He addressed the allegations of radical socialists who have control over him.
He said that violence is unacceptable!
Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters?’ Biden asks
In his remarks in Pittsburgh, Biden challenged Trump and his allies on their portrayal of him as a candidate who supports the violence and looting that has marked some of the protests in American cities over the past few months.
“You know me,” Biden said. “You know my heart. You know my story, my family’s story. Ask yourself, do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really? I want a safe America — safe from covid, safe from crime and looting, safe from racially-motivated violence, safe from bad cops.”
Biden argued that the president is the one who is seeking to benefit politically from the violence.
“Donald Trump looks at this violence and he sees a political lifeline, having failed to protect this nation from the virus that has killed more than 180,000 Americans so far,”
The murder rate in the Obama administration declined 16%. Under the President Trump it has increased 26%
Roger Admitted he is in an "Assisted Living " home.
"Caliphate4vrAugust 31, 2020 at 12:38 PM
At least trump isn’t locked up in assisted living"
"Roger AmickAugust 31, 2020 at 12:42 PM
I'm not locked up"
�� Broke and Broken Roger never ever debated.
You think that Rittenhouse is a Militiaman
"virus that has killed more than 180,000 Americans so far,”
That. number is wildly wrong.
Watching the Republican Party is like watching your friend drink himself to death. The Republican Party has legitimized hate. History tells us that once such forces are unleashed, that is very difficult to undo. That hatred is not going to be even partially defeated until Donald Trump is defeated. The whole situation is very sad.
I have been saying this since the beginning of the Trump campaign.
Scott, for some reason has become a cultist. Trump is not a conservative.
He's a hate mongering self centered asshole.
United States COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by State
Reported to the CDC since January 21, 2020
USA
5,972,356
TOTAL CASES
CDC | Updated: Aug 31 2020 2:02PM
USA
182,622
TOTAL DEATHS
CDC | Updated: Aug 31 2020 2:02PM
Who are the Scientist that Slow Joe will hand the US Economy to?
No one knows, Biden can't name them.
Those are from the President's administration CDC kput'z shut the fuck up
Roger, CDC has cut the China Flu deaths drastically.
Do catch up .
Anonymous Stuart Stevens said...
Watching the Republican Party is like watching your friend drink himself to death.
oh hey, stewie.
still basking in the glory of having your guy mitt get stomped by a two-bit ACORN assclown?
"Does anyone believe there will be less violence in America if Donald Trump is reelected?"
Yes... absolutely.
The idea that you can blame violence perpetrated, appeased, and even welcomed in liberal cities with Democrats running everything...
on President Trump is idiotic.
Electing Joe Biden will only further appease and solidify the belief of the left that they can solve everything by being bullies (either through their cancel culture or via violent rioting).
If you continue to buy the toddler the candy when he throws a fit in the grocery store, that toddler will grow up to be a teenager who throws fits to get what he wants, and eventually into an adult who attempts to continue to throw fits to get what he wants.
Trump is headed to Kenosha and Slow Joe is headed to...
pittsburgh.
LOL.
yup. i feel safer already.
LOL.
Electing Joe Biden will only further appease and solidify the belief of the left that they can solve everything by being bullies (either through their cancel culture or via violent rioting).
i suspect we're fucked either way. elect biden and the scumbags that the alky adores will feel empowered and they go full on apeshit with impunity.
if Trump wins re-election the size and scope of the temper tantrum the left will throw will make Trump's first inauguration look like a girl scout jamboree.
buy guns. buy ammo.
help cum-allah bail out the BLM scumbags!
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Kamala Harris
@KamalaHarris
If you’re able to, chip in now to the
@MNFreedomFund
to help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota.
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1267555018128965643
Tara LaRosa
@TaraLaRosa
“They executed my partner”
CHILLING VIDEO of SURVIVOR:
https://twitter.com/TaraLaRosa/status/1300305444418748416
targeted assassination by antifa/BLM
And on the internet there is video showing this was a group of people, some acting innocent while giving officers false information (I saw a green car which then sped away or something to that effect, calmly "Is he hurt?"etc) while the shooter casually walked away...
Domestic terrorism from Biden supporters.
Cold, deliberate, planned execution.
Andy Ngô
@MrAndyNgo
This wasn’t widely reported. On Wednesday night, around 700 black bloc militants and their supporters rampaged through Oakland, Cal. They chanted “death to America” while starting fires and smashing cars and buildings.
VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300200578367152129
This is a WAR and Biden is on the wrong side.
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