Federal prosecutor Nora Dannehy, a top aide to U.S. Attorney John H. Durham in his Russia investigation, has quietly resigned — at least partly [so maybe not actually the reason, but a tiny part of the reason?] out of concern that the investigative team is being pressed for political reasons to produce a report before its work is done, colleagues said. [Which colleagues? How are they in a position to know?]
Dannehy, a highly regarded prosecutor who has worked with or for Durham for decades, informed colleagues in the U.S. Attorney’s office in New Haven of her resignation from the Department of Justice by email Thursday evening. The short email was a brief farewell message and said nothing about political pressure, her work for Durham or what the Durham team has produced, according to people who received it.
Durham is notoriously circumspect and neither he nor members of his team have revealed anything about the direction of their work. But Durham associates, none of whom have specific knowledge of the investigation [so people who don’t have actual knowledge], have said recently that it is their belief [so people who don’t have actual knowledge believe something, that’s not evidence of anything] he is under pressure to produce something — perhaps [in other words, pure speculation by people who don’t have actual knowledge] some sort of report — before the presidential election in November.
So there may or may not be any real first hand knowledge of why Dannehy is leaving the investigation and it may or may not be just pure speculation on the part of people who are supposedly leaking this information that there is some nefarious political reason she is doing so.
The most recent buzz is that she was actually leading the so called "filter" team which is set up in most every internal criminal investigation to save the actual prosecutors from garnering information that otherwise would legally "poison" them from being involved in an investigation. If that was the case, and Durham's probe was nearing the end, this would make perfect sense that she would resign as nobody from the "filter" team would be allowed to take place in other portions of the investigation or any decisions on prosecution (because they have been legally poisoned). It's also said that Dannehy was offered to work with Durham as a temporary position, which would be consistent with this sort of assignment,and fairly inconsistent with a broader role.
But either way, once again the media has "jumped the shark" by making assumptions based on what is likely little more than speculation from anonymous anti-Trumpers who are looking to do no more than stir the pot. Perhaps they should wait until they have actual evidence of something/anything before they criticize the DOJ, Barr, or Durham for what they see in their own imaginations as happening. At this point there is literally no evidence of any report that might be coming, or that anyone from the DOJ or the Durham team is considering breaking any laws or internal rules and protocol.
What it could mean, however, is that this is the start of a concerted mutual Democratic Party and Media effort to discredit the Durham investigation as a preemptive strike against something larger than a report that might be coming down the line? Perhaps this investigation is wrapping up, there was no actual need for Dannehy, and maybe even another indictment or two might be coming down the line? Perhaps that is why there is a renewed criticism of the Durham investigation?
Nobody seemed to care a couple of weeks ago about this investigation (when the main speculation is that Durham had nothing else to offer and that the investigation would be ending with a thud rather than a bang). Why the sudden concern?
Oh... and why would anyone be concerned with an interim report if there was no wrongdoing or anything embarrassing to anyone to report. Perhaps there just might be a report from Durham that simply says that they are wrapping things up and that everything was hunky dory.
But ultimately you can't have it both ways. You cannot suggest that an investigation into a bunch of people who themselves investigated Trump and his team pretty much 24/7 in public either via leaks or special counsel reports should otherwise be shielded from having anything exposed to the public. The hypocrisy and irony is stunning.
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The President is bending every agency to fit his agenda. They were supposed to be independent from political beliefs, and follow the evidence and the law.
You base everything upon the deep state conspiracy theories, that all of them are anti-Trump people.
They were supposed to be independent from political beliefs, and follow the evidence and the law.
very good, alky.
the irony here is that if Durham does his job, the indictments will run into the dozens, and most of your heros end up in a federal penitentiary.
the reality will be, sadly, quite different. every single piece of shit from comey on down in the FBI, and from sally yates in the DOJ, to brennan and clapper, to 0linsky himself, will walk, scot fucking free. and they committed treason.
admit the fact that you don't seek justice. you're in this for the political outcome.
just go back to watching your Trump highchair cartoon alky. you have nothing to offer this thread.
What it could mean, however, is that this is the start of a concerted mutual Democratic Party and Media effort to discredit the Durham investigation as a preemptive strike against something larger than a report that might be coming down the line?
this is how you can tell that you're directly over the target. how the democrats and the MSM (redundant, i know) react to it ahead of time.
ironically, the smart money is on nothing coming out of this probe. no one will go to jail, nothing significant will come out of this. and this makes watergate look like spitting on the fucking sidewalk.
The minority of Americans who do strongly support him — are anything but silent in their enthusiasm.
Examples are rrb and kput'z
You believe that Obamagate is the October surprise!
You spend way too much time on the Twitter feeds.
Put down the PBR
this makes watergate look like spitting on the fucking sidewalk.
Cooko
Poor Donald, he's been bitching over his tax returns.
The investigation by Vance’s office began in 2018, focusing on hush-money payments that were made before the 2016 presidential election to two women who said they had had affairs with Trump.
I laughed at senseless because he said that he's a Christian. Trump has been married three times and has cheated on every one!
Roger Amick said...
Put down the PBR
this makes watergate look like spitting on the fucking sidewalk.
I guess if the Watergate prosecutors had erased the tapes themselves it would be comparable.
and given immunity to all, lost 302's, destroyed evidence, falsified evidence, and had an administration spy on it's opponent. Also pay for foreign interference, lie to courts, show obvious political bias and even have that recorded. Oh and a bunch of unmasking right up to inauguration day including by the VP at the time...
Other than that you may be right.
But you are a blind TDS partisan.
And racist by your party's definition.
Is Ch desperately looking around for every little flap that can draw attention from the larger things that are going on?
Minnesota Seemed Ripe for a Trump Breakout --BUT
September 13, 2020 at 1:30 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
“If any state is positioned to go from blue to red in 2020, to embrace the fullness of Trumpology and provide the president some much-needed Electoral College insurance, it is Minnesota,” the New York Times reports.
“The state’s northern and eastern regions have grown more conservative over the years, and Republicans won two House seats in the state during the 2018 midterm elections — a rare bright spot during an election characterized by an anti-Trump wave. Going into 2020, conservatives crowed that the issues that defined the state’s politics were straight from Mr. Trump’s playbook: in particular, a robust refugee relocation program that has inspired a white backlash in certain places outside the Twin Cities.
“Mr. Biden’s advantage is driven by an erosion of Republican support for Mr. Trump in the state’s metropolitan areas, continuing the trend of suburban voters’ fleeing a president in crisis.”
Trump Running Out of Time
12:30 pm EDT
all the following from Taegan Goddard's excellent blog, politicalwire.com:
John Haywood:
“With support hovering around 43% nationally, Trump needs a chunk of new supporters to overcome Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s lead. He has just more than seven weeks to lure them. And he faces a significant obstacle that he didn’t in 2016: a smaller pool of available prospects.
“Outsized attention to Trump’s base, most conspicuously the maskless true-believers who pack his rallies despite the coronavirus pandemic, obscures the reality that they number too few to give him a second term. Though Trump eked out an electoral victory four years ago with 46.1% of the popular vote, he cannot repeat that feat with 43%.”
The Religious Group that Could Swing the Election
12:00 pm EDT
Politico:
“In 2016, Mormons rejected Donald Trump in numbers unheard of for a Republican nominee — viewing the thrice-married, immigrant-bashing Republican as an affront to their values.
“In 2020, the president is going all-out to change Mormons minds — a little-noticed effort that could make or break him in Arizona and Nevada, home to more than a half-million Latter-day Saints combined. Joe Biden’s campaign, sensing an unlikely opening for a Democrat, is also targeting Mormons in the pair of Western swing states.”
AND THEN THERE IS THAT EARLIER HEADLINE and article:
Most Believe Biden Has More Respect for Military
Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
Almost a month after Biden & Beltway media condemned Trump for holding his nomination speech on the South Lawn--predicting it would be a COVID "super spreader" event--no attending Cabinet member or GOP luminary or donor has been stricken by virus
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-08-27/rnc-2020-republican-national-convention-trump-speech-covid-19
disappointing to the left, kind of like when the stock market goes up or a policeman survives
Could we have the numbers on those who attended and sat close together.
Trump War Room
@TrumpWarRoom
Fact Check: Joe Biden opposed President Trump’s restrictions on travel from China, which Trump announced in January to combat the spread of the coronavirus.
If Biden had been in charge, more Americans would be dead.
VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1305172894771810304
Brent Scher
@BrentScher
In a sane world, Black Lives Matter blocking entrance of a hospital to cheer for the death of a 31 year old mother of a 6 year old boy would be the end of a movement.
https://twitter.com/BrentScher/status/1305134618627248134
No worries, Kamala will bail them out.
Fact check: Trump still allowed numerous people in from China and even more in from Europe, in both cases flooding our major airports with Covid infected people.
James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
#DemocratCities
VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1305027515488940034
despite big techs best efforts the entire internet has become a campaign ad for Trump 2020.
James said...
Fact check: Trump still allowed numerous people in from China
Yeah they are called RETURNING CITIZENS.
Guess they are the ones Biden would not have let back in
And this STILL has not changed:
Biden 352 electoral votes
Trump 186
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/2020_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html
--from the conservative leaning political commentary and polling aggregator RealClearPolitics.com.
Yeah they are called RETURNING CITIZENS.
If I am not mistaken, they were allowed to return without undergoing even temperature checks or suggested or enforced quarantining for a reasonable amount of time.
Big mistake. HUGE.
ARE THEY THE ONES WITH HILLARY AT OVER 400 ELECTORAL VOTES IN 2016
you must have posted that hundreds of times before that election.
still hurts ???
ROFLMFAO !!!
LOL I didn't, but it is interesting that this one, posted by a careful conservative polling aggregator, has thus far NOT CHANGED. And for a LONG time now.
Poor old F'n is so upset he has even gone back to using his childish F'n self designation.
James said:
If I am not mistaken, they were allowed to return without undergoing even temperature checks or suggested or enforced quarantining for a reasonable amount of time.
Big mistake. HUGE.
Returning flights were the responsibility of state governors. Florida and California handled it well.
New York was a disaster and a HUGE MISTAKE
I replied to the President
Wait until the Cuban American people see the you are sucking Putin's cock and swallowing every single drop!
F'n says:
Returning flights were the responsibility of state governors.
________
Trump could stop Chinese people from coming from China, but could not intervene regarding returning American citizens from China?
Sounds fishy to me.
James said...
Poor ild F'n is so upset he has even gone back to using his childish F'n self designation.
not upset "pastor"
just went back to it after you started posting under my other moniker.
That way if you steal this one I get a kick out of you stooping so low you post as JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY.
Though you have done that too.
But at least I know that upsets you.
ROFLMFAO !!!
Benny
@bennyjohnson
Democrats and BLM Inc. have put targets on the backs of Law Enforcement all across America.
Remember this on Election Day.
Absolutely unacceptable.
LA County Sheriffs
@LASDHQ
Update: The gunman walked up on the deputies and opened fire without warning or provocation.
VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/LASDHQ/status/1304993095725932545
You know who fights against submitting DNA samples in rape cases?
Guilty people.
Donald Trump has refused to provide a DNA sample
Candace Owens
@RealCandaceO
Why else does this happen? Because when pea-brained athletes put the name of an alleged RAPIST on their helmets and jerseys, criminals begin believing they are acting as heroes.
BLACK LIVES MATTER AND THE COMPLICIT MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS, ATHLETES, AND ENTERTAINERS ARE TO BLAME.
and dem "leaders" who bail them out and give them cover
Jesse Kelly
@JesseKellyDC
Enjoy those @NFL players using their national stage to paint cops as the enemy today.
But just know, there’s a cost to spreading that lie. A high cost.
repeating the BIG LIE.
It's the dems tactic
Fake News Robotics,
ABC-Ipsos poll:
Who has more respect for the U.S. military?
Joe Biden 61%
Donald Trump 37%
I don't respond to JFD
I replied to the President
Wait until the Cuban American people
Yeah, sure.
More breaking news in FL and Kamala’s visit to miami. NBC broke the story. She went to a restaurant called Amaize which is Venezuelan and today owner came out and said it was unplanned and If he knew she wouldn’t have been welcome. Latinos do not like Biden/Harris here"
Blogger Roger Amick said...
You know who fights against submitting DNA samples in rape cases?
Guilty people.
Donald Trump has refused to provide a DNA sample
it's not a rape case alky.
it's a defamation suit.
smart people know this. the mentally ill (TDS) do not.
Sleepy Joe isn't working!
Americans say former Vice President Joe Biden has the mental clarity to be president versus Donald Trump, according to the latest Fox News poll released Sunday.
Originally it was a rape case
Roger Amick said...
I don't respond to JFD
You don't respond cogently to anyone
ROFLMFAO !!!
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Originally it was a rape case
WRONG.
it was never a rape case.
If any state is positioned to go from blue to red in 2020, to embrace the fullness of Trumpology and provide the president some much-needed Electoral College insurance, it is Minnesota,” the New York Times reports.
As I said, visits to Minnesota are on both President Trump's and Joe Biden (D-Wuhan) public schedule this week. The state is in play and guess who's playing defense.
Mr. Biden’s advantage is driven by an erosion of Republican support for Mr. Trump in the state’s metropolitan areas,
Does anybody actually believe this nonsense after three months in incompetent and weak Democrat leadership at the state and local level? This is just wish-casting.
"I'm Joe Biden and I approve this shooting."
2 L.A. Deputies Fighting For Their Lives After Ambush Shooting As They Sat In Their Car
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/los-angeles-2-deputies-ambush-shooting-061252907.html
WRONG.
it was never a rape case.
Fact check: True. E Jean Carroll never brought either a civil or criminal charges of rape against Donald J. Trump. And now that the statue of limitations passed she is trying to backdoor the allegations with a defamation suit because, wait-for-it, Trump denied her allegations.
Hopefully a federal judge will see this for the frivolous nonsense it is and throw out the suit.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Originally it was a rape case
Oh look, as always, Alky doesn’t know WTH he’s talking about
Crazy again yesterday afternoon
President Donald Trump on Saturday once again suggested interest in serving three terms in office, claiming that he was "probably entitled" to an additional four years following a hypothetical second term at a campaign event in Nevada.
"And 52 days from now we're going to win Nevada, and we're gonna win four more years in the White House," Trump told the mostly maskless, non-socially distant crowd of his supporters on Saturday. "And then after that, we'll negotiate, right? Because we're probably — based on the way we were treated — we are probably entitled to another four after that."
King Trump I
Republican rule?
E. Jean Carroll, Who Accused Trump of Rape, Can Go Forward With Suit
A judge rejected President Trump’s bid to delay a defamation suit by Ms. Carroll, pointing to the recent Supreme Court ruling over his tax returns.
He said earlier that "She's not my type "
defamation suit by Ms. Carroll
So it is a defamation suit, not a rape trial
Idiot
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/nyregion/jean-caroll-donald-trump-lawsuit-rape.html
It's not longer being head in a New York state court. A federal court has yet to rule.
He said earlier that "She's not my type "
I don't think she's anybody's type. She's a grade A loon.
Breaking911
@Breaking911
Afghanistan's warring sides start negotiations in Qatar for the first time aimed at ending decades of war. - AP
Trump's 3rd Nobel Prize nomination ???
The Peace President
He filed the defamation lawsuit because she accused him of rape
Lawyers for rape use the She's a grade A loon defense.
He didn't file a defamation suit she did numnuts read:
Why Government Lawyers Are Defending Trump The DOJ one-ups E. Jean Carroll in gamesmanship over ‘defamation’ lawsuit against the president
At the time she alleges she was sexually assaulted, Carroll neither went to the police nor said anything publicly — though she says she told a couple of friends about it. Rather, nearly a quarter-century later, when Trump was president, Carroll included the allegation in a book she published, entitled What Do We Need Men For? Inevitably, the media asked Trump about her claim, and he strenuously denied it. So Carroll sued him . . . for defamation.
Interestingly, Carroll’s book also makes a similar allegation against Les Moonves, the former CBS bigwig. Like Trump, Moonves has been the subject of unproven sexual-abuse claims (though he has resigned over some of them, and the network is withholding his megabucks severance package pending its investigation). Carroll says Moonves accosted her in a hotel elevator sometime before February 1997, when the profile for which she was interviewing him was published by Esquire — a profile in which she makes no mention of the alleged incident (because, she says, she is one of the “Silent Generation,” who does “not dwell on the past”). Again like Trump, Moonves strenuously denies the claim, but Carroll does not appear to have taken legal action against him.
I don't think she's anybody's type. She's a grade A loon.
She and Roger have a lot in common
General Election - Fox News Poll: Biden 51%, Trump 46%.
Better than in 2016
She and Roger have a lot in common
True that.
General Election - Fox News Poll: Biden 51%, Trump 46%.
Better than in 2016
Certainly better for Trump. Clinton was leading by double digits in 2016.
How Conspiracy Theories Are Shaping the Election
September 13, 2020 at 2:30 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
Time:
“This matters not just because of what these voters believe
but also because of what they don’t.
The facts that should anchor a sense of shared reality
are meaningless to them;
the news developments that might ordinarily inform their vote fall on deaf ears.
They will not be swayed by data on coronavirus deaths,
they won’t be persuaded by job losses
or stock market gains,
and they won’t care if Trump called America’s fallen soldiers ‘losers’ or ‘suckers,’
as the Atlantic reported, because they won’t believe it.
They are impervious to messaging,
advertising
or data.
They aren’t just infected with conspiracy;
they appear to be inoculated against reality.”
Certainly better for Trump
Just saw a poll on a crawler that had binden up by 11!!!!!!! I guess those tapes are having an effect on the teflon don!!!! Nice to see bloomberg keeping his promise and will spend 100 million in floriduh!!!!!!!!! That's serious money even for trump!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAA~!!!!
Back at my mountain cabin enjoying the scenery while the mouth of the south sits in Hotlanta drinking himself blind!!!!!! Too funny!!!
From the Foxhole polling
significant developments:
They voted for him and now regret it. Why White women are turning away from Trump.
Bloomberg plans to spend at least $100 million in Florida, a massive late-stage infusion of cash that could reshape the presidential contest
If Biden gets Florida and the rest of the midwest states, 352
Senseless says that
Clinton was in better shape now in 2016 than Biden now is?
Hate to tell you this. but---
(not really! I'm delighted to tell you):
---Ch was just so thrilled that for a while the first of the three graphs below (comparing 2016 to 2020) contained some red toward the end.
No longer. It's all blue toward the end now.
You're welcome. Glad to help. :-)
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/
(How do you feel about that, Ch?)
Hate to tell you this James but there are more "battleground states" this year then there was in 2016 and they all came from "safe" blue states.
Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado New Hampshire, Pennsylvania. All "safe" blue states in 2016 are battleground states in 2020.
And all because of Trump.
The point being Biden has to spend precious resources in these states where Clinton didn't have to in 2016. (Although she ignored the warnings about Wisconsin and Philadelphia didn't come through for her.
Also getting ready to put Virginia back into toss-up although the suburban counties of Fairfax, Arrington etc. still dominate the state.
Hate to tell you this, Senseless, but this is how it looks right now if you take all the latest polling in all those 'toss ups' as they stand right now with all their leanings indicated--
352 for Biden
186 for Trump
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/2020_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html
Bloomberg plans to spend at least $100 million in Florida, a massive late-stage infusion of cash that could reshape the presidential contest
Translation they are worried about Florida but I think it's too little to late. They already lost it. But yeah waste the money there.
President Trump is pretty confident about winning the votes of Cubans in Florida after bragging about being the recipient of the Bay of Pigs award.
On Sunday, Bay of Pigs began trending on Twitter after Trump tweeted about the recognition he received for helping the Cuban population. However, it appears the award in question doesn’t exist.
James your self masterbation with 270towin impresses me not at all.
Until you give a halfway decent analysis of why then you are wasting your breath and everybody elses time.
4:15 PM
SENSELESS said:
Also getting ready to put Virginia back into toss-up although the suburban counties of Fairfax, Arrington etc. still dominate the state.
_____________
JAMES SAYS:
Gosh, it sure is looking just terrible for Biden in Virginia right now --- NOT!!!
LOL LOL LOL
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/va/virginia_trump_vs_biden-6988.html
SENSELESS SAYS:
James your self masterbation with 270towin impresses me not at all.
Until you give a halfway decent analysis of why then you are wasting your breath and everybody elses time.
__________
JAMES SAYS:
Actually, I'm not referring to 270towin.com and haven't for quite some time.
I'm referring to RealClearPolitics.com, a conservative leaning news commentary site that seeks objectively and accurately to give the aggregate polling results.
Just think, Trump can put that Bay of Pigs award on the shelf next to his Noble Peace Prize when he get IT.
*gets
It has been trending Trump more so this year than in 2016. But as I said the northern suburban counties are still a big drag on that trend.
Trump's support is in the south and counties dominated by military installations. And that is trending higher then in 2016.
You can LOL all you like it doesn't change facts on the ground.
His connection with the veterans and Trump’s promise to maintain a hard line on Cuba and reverse Obama policies led the group to formally endorse him for president in 2016, the first time they had endorsed a political candidate.
You got him this time Alky
I'm referring to RealClearPolitics.com, a conservative leaning news commentary site that seeks objectively and accurately to give the aggregate polling results.
Then you're a fool if you think the landscape today is the same that it will be on Nov 3. But go ahead, fool away.
But your boy better get out of the basement and off the teleprompter.
People want a leader not a puppet.
Did I say the landscape will then be what it is now?
No, I simply pointed out what it is now. --As does RealClearPolitics.com.
But if Biden does get Florida, it may be close to what it is now.
Facts on the ground are what we are all interested in.
His connection with the veterans and Trump’s promise to maintain a hard line on Cuba and reverse Obama policies led the group to formally endorse him for president in 2016, the first time they had endorsed a political candidate.
You got him this time Alky
Maybe he should plagiarized from someone who knows what the hell they are talking about.
Shit
President Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Sunday denounced what police called an ambush of two Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies and called for the attacker, who remains at large, to face harsh punishment.
Last night, the two officers were sitting in their car and a guy, who remains unfold, shot and wounded both officers. They are in critical condition
Facts on the ground are what we are all interested in.
And yet it's facts on the ground that you most ignore in favor of media cooked polls.
The Nobel?
who remains unfold
WTF
And whine if Trump says award rather than endorsed
Take the blue pill
Last night, the two officers were sitting in their car and a guy, who remains unfold, shot and wounded both officers. They are in critical condition
You didn't post the other half. ANTIFA and BLM activist were blocking ambulance entrances and Emergency Room access to the hospital the police officers were being treated. They were chanting "We hope you fucking die.".
Guess black lives don't matter that much when you wear a blue uniform.
Oh and that was a smooth move by BLM to protest the hospitals where the shot officers were taken
LA hospital treating ambushed deputies inundated by protesters: ‘We hope they die’
Please keep it up
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/09/13/jake-tapper-abruptly-ends-interview-with-trump-aide/24619176/
Navarro comes across like a gang boss.
As someone on twitter said, "In a sane world, if a movement chants for the death of the mother of a six year old, that movement dies right there and then."
Navarro comes across like a gang boss.
Because he is Italian-American? Bigot?
In his acceptance speech to the Republican National Convention in 2016, Donald Trump cited increases in homicides in the 50 largest cities in the United States, denounced Barack Obama for "irresponsibly" using his presidential pulpit to "divide us by race and color," promised to bring an end to "the crime and violence that today afflicts the nation" and to "make American safe again."
"I have a message for every last person threatening peace in our streets and the safety of our police," Trump proclaimed. "When I take the oath of office next year, I will restore law and order to this country."
Because no one "knows the system better than me," Trump added, "I alone can fix it."
At the end of his remarks, Trump's family joined him on stage as "All Right Now" blared through the loudspeakers.
In his inaugural address in 2017, President Trump described a country overrun by crime and gangs and stated: "The American carnage stops right here and right now."
In the weeks preceding the 2018 midterm elections, Trump exaggerated - yet again - the threat to law and order posed by MS-13, "caravans" of Central Americans and undocumented immigrants.
In 2020, as he asks voters to give him a second term as president, Trump is reprising his "law and order" campaign. As in 2016, he is conflating "ordinary" criminal behavior, gang violence, acts of civil disobedience, and riots. With barely a nod to the killing of George Floyd, the spate of revelations of police violence against blacks, and the protests for racial justice following them, Trump tweeted, "Violent thugs are running rampant - these people are anarchists." He blamed the media "for inciting hatred and chaos;" he blasted Democratic mayors who failed to get tough with looters and arsonists; he called the words Black Lives Matter a "symbol of hate." And he issued a warning to "suburban housewives:" "If you want a vision of your life under a Biden presidency think of the smoldering ruins in Minneapolis, the violent anarchy of Portland, the bloodstained sidewalks of Chicago, and imagine the mayhem coming to your town and every single town in America."
President Trump didn't mention cities with high crime rates run by Republican mayors. He didn't mention that the most significant domestic terrorist threat comes from right wing extremists who perpetrated two-thirds of attacks and plots in the United States in 2019 and are responsible for 90 percent of fatalities.
In fact, Trump told reporters that Kyle Rittenhouse - a self-identified member of a right wing militia who traveled from Illinois to Kenosha, Wis., armed with an AR-15, and shot three protesters, two of them fatally, and has been charged with first degree homicide - looked like he was trying to get away from protesters, suggesting he acted in self-defense. "They very violently attacked him," the president said, without evidence, "He would have been, he probably would have been killed."
Trump often implies that virtually all protesters (the vast majority of whom have been peaceful) are thugs and anarchists. But he gives a free pass to MAGA vigilantes. His claim that the military would assume control of cities if federal property was destroyed and "when the looting starts the shooting starts," prompted Twitter to slap a warning label on his tweet for violating its rule against glorifying violence.
Behind in the polls, Trump appears to be recycling his racially-inflected law and order rhetoric to scare Americans into voting for him. His campaign strategy should be a hard sell. After all, the so-called "carnage" is happening on his watch. The man who assured Americans he alone could fix it, needs to explain why he hasn't - and what he would do in 2021 that he can't or won't do right now.
As voters remember his promise in 2016 to "make America safe again," they may well apply it more to the Coronavirus pandemic than the admittedly troubling but far less deadly riots in Minneapolis, Portland, and Kenosha.
Thanks to Bob Woodward's audiotapes, we now know that Trump knew in late January that COVID-19 was a highly contagious, airborne disease, likely to kill tens or hundreds of thousands of Americans. His explanation that he lied to the American people to avoid panic does not pass the smell test - especially given his willingness to frighten Americans about the "mayhem" supposedly coming to their towns and cities.
Surely a "stable genius" could have found a way, as Angela Merkel and countless other leaders have, to warn Americans about the risks of Coronavirus while reassuring them that - with advice from public health experts - the federal government would act decisively to minimize the spread and impact of the disease.
Trump must be held accountable for squandering precious time in January, February, and March (while he said repeatedly that the Coronavirus was under control and would soon disappear), and for mocking masks, social distancing, and testing; for promoting bogus treatments; for undercutting the CDC and FDA; for calling on his supporters to "liberate" states with Democratic governors - instead of developing and implementing a comprehensive, coherent and consistent national strategy.
Trump's dereliction of his duty to "make America safe," it is now clear, has resulted in a per capita mortality rate in the United States that is among the highest in the world... and the worst may be yet to come.
Trump fooled a majority of voters once. This time around, he's banking on people "who have eyes but do not see, who have ears but do not hear."
As the saying goes, "Fool me once, shame on you: Fool me twice, shame on me".
I hope that enough will not fall for it again.
In fact, Trump told reporters that Kyle Rittenhouse - a self-identified member of a right wing militia who traveled from Illinois to Kenosha, Wis., armed with an AR-15,
I quit reading a s soon as I saw the lie
Kyle did not carry a gun across state line," L. Lin Wood said in a tweet Friday morning. "The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the state of Wisconsin." Wood is part of the Texas-based #FightBack Foundation Inc. that is raising money for Rittenhouse's defense.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/08/28/new-details-emerge-kenosha-shooting-chief-union-defend-officers/5660081002/
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"The sentence I hear most from well-meaning, conservative friends since President Trump’s election is this: “We suffered 8 years under Barack Obama.”
Fair enough. Let’s take a look.
The day Obama took office, the Dow closed at 7,949 points. Eight years later, the Dow had almost tripled.
General Motors and Chrysler were on the brink of bankruptcy, with Ford not far behind, and their failure, along with their supply chains, would have meant the loss of millions of jobs. Obama pushed through a controversial, $8o billion bailout to save the car industry. The U.S. car industry survived, started making money again, and the entire $80 billion was paid back, with interest.
While we remain vulnerable to lone-wolf attacks, no foreign terrorist organization has successfully executed a mass attack here since 9/11.
Obama ordered the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden.
He drew down the number of troops from 180,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan to just 15,000, and increased funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs.
He launched a program called Opening Doors which, since 2010, has led to a 47 percent decline in the number of homeless veterans.
He set a record 73 straight months of private-sector job growth.
Due to Obama’s regulatory policies, greenhouse gas emissions decreased by 12%, production of renewable energy more than doubled, and our dependence on foreign oil was cut in half.
He signed The Lilly Ledbetter Act, making it easier for women to sue employers for unequal pay.
His Omnibus Public Lands Management Act designated more than 2 million acres as wilderness, creating thousands of miles of trails and protecting over 1,000 miles of rivers.
He reduced the federal deficit from 9.8 percent of GDP in 2009 to 3.2 percent in 2016.
For all the inadequacies of the Affordable Care Act, we seem to have forgotten that, before the ACA, you could be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition and kids could not stay on their parents’ policies up to age 26.
Obama approved a $14.5 billion system to rebuild the levees in New Orleans.
All this, even as our own Mitch McConnell famously asserted that his singular mission would be to block anything President Obama tried to do.
While Obama failed on his campaign pledge to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, that prison’s population decreased from 242 to around 50.
He expanded funding for embryonic stem cell research, supporting groundbreaking advancement in areas like spinal injury treatment and cancer.
Credit card companies can no longer charge hidden fees or raise interest rates without advance notice.
Most years, Obama threw a 4th of July party for military families. He held babies, played games with children, served barbecue, and led the singing of “Happy Birthday” to his daughter Malia, who was born on July 4.
Welfare spending is down: for every 100 poor families, just 24 receive cash assistance, compared with 64 in 1996.
Obama comforted families and communities following more than a dozen mass shootings. After Sandy Hook, he said, “The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old.”
Yet, he never took away anyone’s guns.
He sang Amazing Grace, spontaneously, at the altar.
He was the first president since Eisenhower to serve two terms without personal or political scandal.
He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
President Obama was not perfect, as no man and no president is, and you can certainly disagree with his political ideologies. But to say we suffered? If that’s the argument, if this is how we suffered for 8 years under Barack Obama, I have one wish: may we be so fortunate as to suffer 8 more."
Trump lied, dumbshit
You don’t know what the fuck you’re blabbering about
In the last couple of hours you’ve been proven incredibly wrong on Trump rape, Bay of Pigs endorsement and where Rittenhouse got the AR.
You’re a tragic old fool that has no life and goes around Tom like minded whack jobs sites for mental masturbation.
Now eat your porridge, let the LPN wipe your chin and go to bed
It’s easier than clubbing a baby seal
*to like minded
Fool me once and ya can't get fooled again! - George W. Bush
Members of Biden’s campaign bailed out rioters in Minneapolis. His running mate solicited donations to the group doing this.
Neither has been asked about it by members of the press.
Trump exaggerated - yet again - the threat to law and order posed by MS-13, "caravans" of Central Americans and undocumented immigrants.
That was no exaggeration, MS-13 is the most dangerous south and central American gangs then and is still is today. They exist outside civilization.
Kyle did not carry a gun across state line," L. Lin Wood
That's his defense attorney dumbshit
L. Lin Wood is his defense attorney
This is not proof that he didn't carry the weapon across state lines.
L. Lin Wood is his defense attorney.
You would have been a terrible lawyer.
There was no Bay of Pigs award. The people wanted to give him an endorsement. An award is a item.
Cali, put down the beer
His followers are sheep.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/13/politics/trump-indoor-rally-coronavirus-2020/index.html
Trump is going to have a huge Indoor rally.
They will get sick next week
But his last entirely indoor rally in Tulsa brought considerable controversy after the city experienced a surge in coronavirus cases a little more than 2 weeks after the event and multiple campaign staffers along with Secret Service agents tested positive for the virus.
Covidiots! Chaching!
Let’s talk about Brazil first! Trump sold them 20 million doses of hydroxychloroquine. He must have made a ton of money. He’s a rip off artist! Obviously, it’s not working. Brazil has now more deaths per million than the US.
Unbelievable! 6.5 million ! 2% of the population infected. Worse in the world.
Trump is a murderer! He’s done nothing about it but to deny it, Go hide in your bunker trump! Resign! When will people quit making excuses for such an incompetent leader?
The US NOW HAS SIX AND A HALF MILLION CASES! Can you believe this? ( 6, 678, 149 ) That is SIX MILLION, SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY EIGHT THOUSAND AND ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE CASES. ! That’s a REALLY REALLY BIG BIG number. Way to go Captain Strokeahauntus !He said in March , there were only 15 cases. And everything will disappear by April. Why are you trumppets putting up with all his lies? What a joke! . The country has more deaths now than any other country. ( 198, 148 ) DEATHS !
Look and see how he claims 99% of the virus is harmless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnvnlKk4Xmc
As I listened to the recording of President Trump telling Post associate editor Bob Woodward that he deliberately misled Americans about the severity of covid-19, I alternated between anger and sadness. I thought of all those who have lost their lives and all the pain and suffering that could have been prevented. I also thought about what can be done now.
Because a responsible leader could still turn things around.
It isn’t actually that difficult to imagine. A responsible leader would begin by acknowledging what is apparent to everyone: He should have acted sooner, and he shouldn’t have tried to hide the truth.
Yawn
Let’s talk about Brazil first! Trump sold them 20 million doses of hydroxychloroquine. He must have made a ton of money.
Trump didn't make a ton of money, the US people did. It's ignorant crap like this that makes one wonder about Roger's mental health.
It is gratifying to see the criticism of Trump rallies to that of COVID-Karens who like to dictate to others.
Roger Amick said...
This is not proof that he didn't carry the weapon across state lines.
L. Lin Wood is his defense attorney.
wood's the lawyer who just got done enriching the Sandmann kid at the expense of XiNN and the WaPo, alky.
i doubt he's stupid enough to fuck up a detail so central to his case.
The US NOW HAS SIX AND A HALF MILLION CASES!
that's it?
LOL.
0linsky had nearly 10 times that a decade ago.
geezus alky, the shit you assholes feed each other on fakebook sure is hilarious.
A responsible leader would begin by acknowledging what is apparent to everyone: He should have acted sooner, and he shouldn’t have tried to hide the truth.
yup. just think of all the lives that could've been saved if Trump had only been honest enough and smart enough to create a mass, nationwide panic.
If only the democrats hadn't put the country through impeachment at the very moment Trump was trying to assess the virus.
We are in a place in time, where we have are two different realities. Trump didn't invent it, but he's using it to his advantage. It started when Rush Limbaugh started discrediting the opposition. Then Fox News strengthen the alternative reality. Donald Trump is the manifestation of the alternative reality.
But his last entirely indoor rally in Tulsa brought considerable controversy after the city experienced a surge in coronavirus cases a little more than 2 weeks after the event and multiple campaign staffers along with Secret Service agents tested positive for the virus.
Old Glory -
https://youtu.be/3c7GqpoM6wU
It started when Rush Limbaugh started discrediting the opposition. Then Fox News strengthen the alternative reality.
LOL.
you guys are in constant need of a boogeyman to keep the fear alive.
President Trump's questions, in the January 28 meeting, exposed a difference of opinion. Beth Sanner, from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, said the virus might be no worse than SARS in 2003, when there were only eight known infections in the U.S.. But, Woodward says, Deputy National Security Advisor Matt Pottinger, who had been a reporter in China, told Mr. Trump his unofficial Chinese contacts had raised a grave warning.
Bob Woodward: Pottinger said his contacts in China told him "This is going to be like the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic that killed 675,000 people in this country." It was a stunning moment in the Trump presidency and, I think, in American history. Because he then went on to publicly dismiss the virus. And he knew that this was a pandemic coming.
Scott Pelley: And this is January 28th?
Bob Woodward: Yes.
The next day, the White House announced a coronavirus task force. This was Mr. Trump, January 30, two days after the warning.
President Trump during January 30 public speech: We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five. And those people are all recuperating successfully. But we're working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it's going to have a very good ending for us. So that I can assure you.
Chinese officials were concealing what they knew about COVID-19.
On January 31, the president restricted travel from China. The next week, in a phone call, Mr. Trump told Woodward what he'd been learning about the virus. This was February 7.
President Trump during February 7 phone call with Bob Woodward: It goes through air, Bob. That's always tougher than the touch. You know, the touch, you don't have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that's how it's passed.
And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than your, you know, your even your strenuous flus. This is deadly stuff.
Three weeks after that call, the president said this to the public.
President Trump during February 26 White House press conference: It's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner. Yeah, go ahead...
Donald Trump
President Trump speaks during the daily press briefing on the coronavirus pandemic situation at the White House on March 17, 2020, in Washington, D.C.
GETTY / BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI
Scott Pelley: In that February 7th interview, it's clear that the president knows what the stakes are. But he's not sharing that with the public at that time.
Bob Woodward: Yes. This is the tragedy. the president of the United States has a duty to warn. The public will understand that. But if they get the feeling that they're not getting the truth, then you're going down the path of deceit and cover up.
Scott Pelley: Did the president ever disclose to you why he wasn't telling the public what the stakes were with the coronavirus?
Bob Woodward: So in March, I asked exactly that question. You know, what's going on. And the president said:
President Trump during March 19 phone call with Bob Woodward: Well, I think Bob really to be honest with you–
Bob Woodward: Sure, I want you to be.
President Trump: –I wanted to, I wanted to always play it down, I still like playing it down–
President Trump: –because I don't want to create a panic.
Bob Woodward: I think he did not understand the American public. And he said, "Well, I don't wanna create a panic." We know, from history, when the public is told the truth, they organize. "We have a problem. We're going to step up." And Trump thought, "Oh, well, they'll panic." When there's a crisis, when the president, particularly, knows something, it's time to tell the public in some form. He failed.
Scott Pelley: You write, in the book, that, "The president's handling of the virus reflects his instincts, habits, and style." What are those?
Bob Woodward: Denial. Making up his own facts.
0linsky had nearly 10 times that a decade ago.
And idiots like you who did not get the vaccine !!!!!!!! Yep.....idiots are obama's fault!!!!! BWWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
.idiots are obama's fault!!!!!
they may not be his fault, but they certainly are his BASE.
President Trump: –because I don't want to create a panic.
democrats: "WE DEMAND YOU CREATE A PANIC, DAMMIT!!!"
the left actually wanted Trump to create a situation that looked just like the entrance to a wal-mart at 4 am on black friday.
LOL.
hey alky,.
will you be copy/pasting the ENTIRE transcript from the 60 minutes interview, or just excerpts?
LOL.
Maybe it would have been helpful if Trump had created enough "panic" to encourage people to wear masks and maintain social distances.
Reminder from @MrAndyNgo: #Antifa are anything but anti-fascist
All from Taegan Goddard's politicalwire.com:
Quote of the Day
September 14, 2020 at 7:29 am EDT
It's an extraordinary flip of the mood in the country in a short amount of time… that portends change. Whether voters hold Trump or Republicans in the House or Senate accountable or not, they’re still going to vote for change.”
— GOP pollster Neil Newhouse, quoted by Vox.
Most Disapprove of Trump’s Virus Response
7:25 am EDT
A new ABC News/Ipsos poll finds President Trump’s approval for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic at 35%, compared to 65% who disapprove.
“Roughly two-thirds of the country think the president acted too slowly in responding to the outbreak and also distrust what he has said about the coronavirus — a precarious reality for Trump who is facing reelection in less than two months in a campaign largely seen as a referendum on his response to the unprecedented crisis.”
Sisolak Slams Trump as ‘Reckless and Selfish’
7:22 am
Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak (D) slammed President Trump Sunday night for violating state rules by holding a campaign rally indoors with thousands of people, NBC News reports.
Said Sisolak: “This is an insult to every Nevadan who has followed the directives, made sacrifices, and put their neighbors before themselves. It’s also a direct threat to all of the recent progress we’ve made and could potentially set us back.”
The governor said of Trump, “As usual, he doesn’t believe the rules apply to him” and accused the president of “reckless and selfish actions.”
Blogger James said...
Maybe it would have been helpful if Trump had created enough "panic" to encourage people to wear masks and maintain social distances.
Well James, if you choose to live your life in fear, that's your business. Just don't try to impose you fear on everybody else.
Because it's none of your fucking business.
You know, Senseless, my wife and I are not quivering in fear. We are, however, observing recommended safety standards, and thus far it has worked for us.
With the return of thousands of students to the two universities of our twin cities, virus cases are now spiking. My wife teaches at one of those universities, and even has a few students spaced out in a large hall teaching them in person, using the recommended precautions.
We are not living in fear. We are, however, taking reasonable precautions.
Too bad Trump didn't encourage more Americans to do that, especially when he first began to learn how difficult and deadly the pandemic potentially could be. Instead, he continued to claim covid was little more than a form of flu, a direct contradiction of what he told Woodward he knew.
And trumps stupidity is as boundless as the ass holes who are attacked to his big fat ass!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/13/us/politics/california-fires-trump-climate-change.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
WASHINGTON — When President Trump flies to California on Monday to assess the state’s raging forest fires, he will come face to face with the grim consequences of a reality he has stubbornly refused to accept: the devastating effects of a warming planet.
To the global scientific community, the acres of scorched earth and ash-filled skies across the American West are the tragic, but predictable, result of accelerating climate change. Nearly two years ago, federal government scientists concluded that greenhouse gas emissions from burning fossil fuels could triple the frequency of severe fires across the Western states.
Well James, if you choose to live your life in fear
You see shit for breath.....it is not the fear for yourself that is a factor....it is civility to all people around him like you who will benefit from everyone wearing a mask.....Your stupidity is as boundless as the goat fucker since it is apparent you only care about yourself and all others can go fuck themselves......No wonder why you support King trump....you don't care!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!~!!
Trump’s Reckless, Atrocious, Deceitful Rally
September 14, 2020 at 7:55 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Tim Miller watched President Trump’s “unmasked, indoor superspreader event in Henderson, Nevada on Sunday night.”
“For those who have been beaten down by the Trumpian disaster porn, rallies such as this don’t really make a mark any longer. The cable networks and even the three C-SPANs landed on the BORRRRING side of the ledger: None of them chose to air the event. And for political junkies and Trump-watchers, these rallies increasingly have the feel of a boring nostalgia act with a lead singer halfheartedly crooning his old hits. And there’s something to be said for that.
“But it is important to take a moment to shake yourself free from the blunting effect of the orange Trumpian film that has subsumed our daily lives (and here in northern California, our atmosphere). Seen with fresh eyes, the Henderson rally was truly a shocking and unimaginably wheels-off undertaking given that it came amid a pandemic that is still killing a thousand Americans a day and with wildfires making much of the West Coast uninhabitable.”
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Did Trump claim again to be the Environmentalist President?
Hey cramps.....do you wear a seat belt when you travel?????? Do you use a cell phone when you drive?????? How does making cell phone use bother anyone but the user??????? God you are an asshoel
James said...
Maybe it would have been helpful if Trump had created enough "panic" to encourage people to wear masks and maintain social distances.
sure thing pederast.
all those who hate the man with a blinding, raging passion would've taken Trump's advice the moment the words left his lips.
LOL.
Great job red state governors of sticking your head up trumps fat white ass and propagating illness that could be prevented if they followed protocol.....dumb fuck R's who think trump is king!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — Coronavirus infections in the Dakotas are growing faster than anywhere else in the nation, fueling impassioned debates over masks and personal freedom after months in which the two states avoided the worst of the pandemic.
The argument over masks raged this week in Brookings, South Dakota, as the city council considered requiring face coverings in businesses. The city was forced to move its meeting to a local arena to accommodate intense interest, with many citizens speaking against it, before the mask requirement ultimately passed.
Amid the brute force of the pandemic, health experts warn that the infections must be contained before care systems are overwhelmed. North Dakota and South Dakota lead the country in new cases per capita over the last two weeks, ranking first and second respectively, according to Johns Hopkins University researchers.
South Dakota has also posted some of the country's highest positivity rates for COVID-19 tests in the last week — over 17 percent — an indication that there are more infections than tests are catching.
Infections have been spurred by schools and universities reopening and mass gatherings like the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, which drew hundreds of thousands of people from across the country.
“It is not a surprise that South Dakota has one of the highest (COVID-19) reproduction rates in the country,” Brookings City Council member Nick Wendell said as he commented on the many people who forgo masks in public.
The Republican governors of both states have eschewed mask requirements, tapping into a spirit of independence hewn from enduring the winters and storms of the Great Plains.
The Dakotas were not always a hot spot. For months, the states appeared to avoid the worst of the pandemic, watching from afar as it raged through large cities. But spiking infection rates have fanned out across the nation, from the East Coast to the Sun Belt and now into the Midwest, where states like Iowa and Kansas are also dealing with surges.
When the case count stayed low during the spring and early summer, people grew weary of constantly taking precautions, said Dr. Benjamin Aaker, president of the South Dakota State Medical Association.
“People have a tendency to become complacent,” he said. “Then they start to relax the things that they were doing properly, and that’s when the increase in cases starts to go up."
Health officials point out that the COVID-19 case increases have been among younger groups that are not hospitalized at high rates. But infections have not been contained to college campuses.
Health officials point out that the COVID-19 case increases have been among younger groups that are not hospitalized at high rates. But infections have not been contained to college campuses.
translation - try as we may to create panic as a cudgel with which to bash Trump, the reality is that this is not a big deal.
sure thing, racist hate-filled rat (rrb)
If Trump along with other leaders, both Dems and Repubs, including his own scientists, had been united in calling for the wearing of masks and for social distancing, people would have listened and lives would have been saved.
Nobody is trying to create panic, hateful rat. Just a reasonable response to what it obviously a dangerous pandemic.
Trump continues to make it worse, not better.
Biden Campaign Forming ‘Legal War Room’
September 14, 2020 at 8:57 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
“Joe Biden is establishing a major new legal operation, bringing in two former solicitors general and hundreds of lawyers in what the campaign billed as the largest election protection program in presidential campaign history,” the New York Times reports.
“Legal battles are already raging over how people will vote — and how ballots will be counted — this fall during the pandemic, and senior Biden officials described the ramp-up as necessary to guard the integrity of a fall election already clouded by President Trump’s baseless accusations of widespread fraud.”
Woodward Says He’ll Release More Audio from Trump
8:45 am EDT
Bob Woodward told Savannah Guthrie on the Today Show that he will release the audio recordings of his interviews with President Trump that are “relevant.”
Said Woodward: “The microphone is also a microscope.”
translation - try as we may to create panic as a cudgel with which t
Translation...the only cudgel is the one stuck up your old white stupid ass, rat!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
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