- NBC/WSJ (10/15) - Clinton 51 Trump 41 +10
- CBS News (10/15) - Clinton 51 Trump 40 +11
- Monmouth (10/16) - Clinton 53 Trump 41 +12
- ABC News (10/24) - Clinton 43 Trump 41 +12
- Assoc Press (10/24) - Clinton 54 Trump 41 +13
- USA/Suffolk (10/24) - Clinton 49 Trump 39 +10
- CNBC Poll (10/24) - Clinton 47 Trump 37 +10
But we would also be looking at:
- Gravis (10/23) Clinton 50 Trump 50 Tie
- IBD/TIPP (10/25) Clinton 43 Trump 41 +2
- LA Times (10/23) Trump 45 Clinton 44 +1
- ABC Tracking (10/30) Clinton 48 Trump 47 +1
But oddly, only IBD/TIPP from that second bunch seems to be polling 2020. I still maintain that much of the larger Biden polling averages lead is not as much tied to that many specific pollsters providing Biden with a bigger lead, but it's about the fact that many of the pollsters that were better for Trump are no longer polling (thus no longer in the averages). Many of the same media polls had Clinton up by the same margins that they have Biden up.
On the flip side, Reuters and YouGov both seem to be polling better for Biden than they did for Clinton. At the same time Reuters had Clinton up 7 points, and they currently have Biden up 10 points. YouGov had Clinton up by 5 points, where as now they have Biden up 9 points. So that does provide at least some evidence that Biden is over polling Clinton. But we still need to keep in mind that many of these double digit leads (and stories about Trump camp implosion) are repeats of 2016.
Of course, as our favorite genius nursing home tenant has demanded. All of these pollsters that got it wrong in 2016 are getting it right in 2020 because they learned their lesson and applied many changes to their new polling. I am sure that assertion will make other Biden supporters feel all warm and fuzzy.
55 comments:
Rather than making snide remarks, one can always go to the pollsters who got it wrong before, especially the more notable ones, and read THEIR explanations as to why they feel they are not that far off this time. One will notice that they do, however, admit they could be wrong; they just don't think they are
-- not this time.
I'll stick to my projection:
Unless there is a real October surprise, the Republicans will take a decade to recover from Trumpism ..
SPEAKING OF SURPRISES,
This is so damned bizarre, I won't even comment on it.
I recommend that you go to politicalwire.com and click on the link to the original article and read it for yourselves.
Giuliani Faces Questions After Scene In Borat Film
==== October 21, 2020 at 12:26 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard
“The reputation of Rudy Giuliani could be set for a further blow with the release of highly embarrassing footage in Sacha Baron Cohen’s follow-up to Borat,” The Guardian reports.
“In the film, released on Friday, the former New York mayor is seen reaching into his trousers and apparently touching his genitals while reclining on a bed in the presence of the actor playing Borat’s daughter, who is posing as a TV journalist.
“Following an obsequious interview for a fake conservative news program, the pair retreat at her suggestion for a drink to the bedroom of a hotel suite, which is rigged with concealed cameras. After she removes his microphone, Giuliani, 76, can be seen lying back on the bed, fiddling with his untucked shirt and reaching into his trousers.
“They are then interrupted by Borat who runs in and says: ‘She’s 15. She’s too old for you.’
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NO COMMENT. LOOK AT IT FOR YOURSELVES.
Never before, has an incumbent President demanding that his rival arrested by the Attorney General of the United States.
If you can judge people by the company they keep, and if Trump kept company with Giuliani...
Well Reverend...
Remember that according to 538 and their polling averages, the Democrats had a reasonable shot at the Senate in 2018 as well. But Bill Nelson (70% chance of victory), Joe Donnelly (71% chance of victory), Claire McCaskill (57% chance of victory) all lost, while no favored Republicans lost.
So just two years ago, the polling in the important and close races was still favoring Democrats. Perhaps they "finally" got it correct and Biden is heading for a double digit victory. But I wouldn't bet your trailer park home on it if I were you.
All that being said. Biden only needs to go "marginally" better than Clinton did in 2016 to get to 270. So a three or four point national margin might be enough and anything in the five to six range should make for a comfortable victory.
But I think rather than keep cutting and pasting T Goddard anonymous Trump campaign supporters dire warnings of a landslide Trump loss, you might be better off actually paying attention to the open words of named Biden campaign sources who are on record as saying that the race is not where the media polling is showing it at.
It can actually be proven that Biden campaign members are openly suggesting a close race... where I don't believe for one second that Trump any actual campaign members have information that Trump has already conceded some landslide loss.
10/15/2000 Nbc/WSJ Biden Has 11-Point Lead Over Trump Less Than Three Weeks to Election DayA new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll of registered voters shows Joe Biden leading the president 53% to 42%
CH intentionally failed to post it on his list 9% outside the margin of error.
RCP Average 8.2
10/7 - 10/2050 .8 Biden +7.9YouGov10/18 10/205243Biden +9 IBD/TIPP10/16 - 10/204947Biden +2 Rasmussen10/14 -
10/204946Biden +3 CNBC*10/17 - 10/185242Biden +10SUSA10/16 - 10/195343Biden +10 NYT/Siena*10/15 - 10/185041Biden +9JTN/RMG*10/15 - 10/175143Biden +8 The Hill10/10 - 10/134740Biden +7 Reuters10/9 - 10/135141Biden +10 USC10/7 - 10/205342Biden. +11
Compared to the cherry pick list by Scott
But we would also be looking at:
Gravis (10/23) Clinton 50 Trump 50 TieIBD/TIPP (10/25) Clinton 43 Trump 41 +2 LA Times (10/23) Trump 45 Clinton 44 +1ABC Tracking (10/30) Clinton 48 Trump 47 +1
Scott, your average is 1.5%
our favorite genius nursing home tenant caught him in a blatant lie.
RCP Average 8.2
CHT average 1.5%
You have become fake news!
You have made it easier to catch you in blatant lies!
The presidential and U.S. Senate races in Iowa — a state that Trump carried by more than nine percentage points in 2016 — are extremely tight, a pair of new polls released Wednesday find.
Among registered voters, Trump draws the support of 48 percent, compared with 47 percent for Biden, according to a Monmouth University poll.
But Biden has the advantage under two turnout models applied by Monmouth. Under a model assuming relatively high turnout, Biden draws 50 percent support, compared with 47 percent for Trump. Under a model assuming relatively low turnout, Biden draws 51 percent, compared with 46 percent for Trump.
Monmouth said Biden’s advantage is greater in the lower-turnout scenario because of the large number of Democratic ballots that have been cast early.
Monmouth finds that Biden has widened his lead among voters 65 and older, besting Trump 54 percent to 43 percent. In 2016, exit polls showed Trump won seniors by four points in the state.
The coronavirus appears to be a factor. In the poll, 62 percent of those 65 and older say they are worried a lot about the pandemic, and seniors say they trust Biden over Trump to handle it, by 54 percent to 31 percent. That is more than double Biden’s margin among all Iowa voters on the issue, 46 percent vs. 36 percent.
Election 2020 live updates: Obama hitting campaign trail for Biden; Trump returning to N.C. - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/10/21/trump-biden-live-updates/#link-IQVFV26CTZD47JQYPNMI3UPRCI
Democrat California Gov. Gavin Newsom told reporters Monday that he would not automatically distribute a vaccine for the coronavirus even if it is approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the federal agency that is the gatekeeper between drug makers and American consumers."
Ok, so, to be clear the left says blacks and Hispanics are dying at a greater rate then Asians and Whites, So keep a vaccine from them . Leaving more for White and Asians.
Hey Roger... you old senile nursing home resident... you!
I didn't include ANY Trump Biden polls.
They were all Trump "CLINTON" polls from 2016.
Did you "really" miss the point of this post by that much?
If, Ch, you are not aware that there are numbers of Republicans running for the House and for the Senate who have begun to concede that the President is, as one put it, "toast," and that the best thing they can do is not to waste whatever resources they have, financial and otherwise, on his reelection, but use them to try to retain as many of their own seats as they can -- if you are not aware of that, you have not been paying attention.
Yes, I compared the 2016 to 2020, because you distorted the results from before and today.
By the way, Ch, you demean yourself and make yourself less happy when you refer to Roger as a "nursing home resident" and to me as living in a trailer park, which I do not. Deep down inside, you known you shouldn't use that kind of disparagement, and you'll feel better about yourself if you avoid it.
The current polls show that Biden has a higher lead than Clinton had in 16.
You are apprehensive about the fact that Trump is probably going home in January
CH, your own guideline is to avoid insult
Where I am living is irrelevant.
POLITICO:
Trump Puts GOP Governors In a Bind
“Republican governors are pleading for basic public health precautions as their states face a new wave of coronavirus cases, even as President Trump downplays the pandemic’s severity and tells people to move on with their lives.
“The clashing messages come as large swaths of the country experience uncontrolled spread that state officials fear could swamp their already strapped health systems. They’re putting out calls for volunteers to help staff hospitals, placing new limits on public gatherings and urging, or in some cases mandating, the wearing of masks."
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They need to help Trump see that helping the country through this is even more important than winning reelection. He would be happier with himself if he could see that.
🤣Where I am living is irrelevant.😂Alky
Hit a nerve.
The polls are closing at a pace that looks like a re-run if the trail of tears of 2016.
BLM crippled the NBA.
Congrats.
BLM is doing the Same to the viewship of Sunday Night and Monday Night Football.
Again, Congrats.
CH's only guideline is to make up shit that makes trump look like a winnah.....nothing else....he should be very careful about living arrangements especially him living with a mail order bride like trump who is young enough to be one of his own spawn.....very sad!!!
Hey goat fucker.....who gives a fuck about the NBA other than you?????? BWWWAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Now go eat a turnip and let us know when you get out of mommy's root cellar....!!!
If, Ch, you are not aware that there are numbers of Republicans running for the House and for the Senate who have begun to concede that the President is, as one put it, "toast," and that the best thing they can do is not to waste whatever resources they have, financial and otherwise, on his reelection, but use them to try to retain as many of their own seats as they can -- if you are not aware of that, you have not been paying attention.
Name a current Senator running in 2020 who has publicly stated that the President is "toast" or anything such as that?
I wouldn't be worried or anything...
But four new polls came out (or were updated today).
Rasmussen - three points
IDB/TIPP - two points
Economist - nine points
Hill/Harris - four points
Three of those four seem awfully close for the sort of election where the President would be considered by his own Party as "toast".
Meanwhile the "Battleground state polling average" shows Biden losing over 20% of his lead in the past week.
I think suddenly, that debate looms large again. Without Trump to interrupt him will Biden be able to complete his thoughts without stumbling over his notes? The President will find a way to bring up Hunter Biden. How Joe reacts will tell us a lot. I have talked to people on both sides, and even Democrats are frustrated that he won't address it.
Sasse's comment about a republican blood bath, lil schitty Use the google machine it was well reported!!!!!! Or how about what Croynan said??????
A member of Republican leadership in the US Senate has likened his relationship with Donald Trump to a marriage, and said that he was “maybe like a lot of women who get married and think they’re going to change their spouse, and that doesn’t usually work out very well”.
C.H. Truth said...
I wouldn't be worried or anything...
Laughable that Lil Schitty is now depending on outlier polls for his only hope!!!!!! Funny not long ago you were disparaging all polls and now you try to embrace the ones you like!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! I would be worried in that trump is driving women and seniors away with his twitter BS and lies .....Think the vaccine will be ready in 13 days as promised??????
The Moderator will grill Biden on his crooked deals with other governments to enrich himself and gems kids.
The Moderator will get an answer on ending fracking and court packing.
The Moderator will go easy on Trump, because the first two shills were so in bed for Biden.
The President will find a way to bring up Hunter Biden. How Joe reacts will tell us a lot. I have talked to people on both sides, and even Democrats are frustrated that he won't address it.
Just call him Big Guy a few times
TOAST
2020 ELECTION
'The president is likely toast': Trump's woes raise GOP fears of a blue wave
"The president has had possibly the worst two-week stretch that a candidate could have going into the final month of an election," one
Republican strategist said.
Vulnerable GOP candidates are currently tethered to an unpopular president, fighting for survival against a potential blue wave.
WASHINGTON — A series of setbacks for President Donald Trump has left some Republican operatives and donors fearing that the race for the White House is slipping away and proposing that the party shift focus to protecting seats in Congress.
Vulnerable GOP candidates are currently tethered to an unpopular president, fighting for survival against a potential blue wave after Trump’s widely panned performance in the first debate, his coronavirus diagnosis and his erratic behavior on economic stimulus talks.
Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s lead over Trump has topped 10 points in the NBC News national polling average. Across the country, Trump is hemorrhaging support among seniors and faces widespread defections among white college graduates, particularly women.
“The president has had possibly the worst two-week stretch that a candidate could have going into the final month of an election,” Ken Spain, a Republican strategist, said.
Polling shows Biden outperforming Trump (and outperforming Clinton against Trump)
Spain, who worked for the party’s House election arm during Barack Obama’s blowout 7 percentage point first presidential victory, said he sees “echoes of 2008” in the current landscape, with growing chances of a tsunami that drowns congressional Republican candidates.
“In 2016, the president was a buoy. In 2020, he’s more of an anchor. There’s no question there are going to be losses down the ballot,” he said. “Six months ago, Republicans were hoping that we would be talking about Senate races in Colorado, Arizona and Maine. Instead, there’s concern about the potential outcomes in states like South Carolina, Georgia and Kansas.”
The down-ballot panic intensified with the recognition that Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina was in danger as a raft of polls since summer showed his race in a dead heat with Democratic challenger Jaime Harrison. The Cook Political Report this week shifted the race rating from "Lean Republican" to "Toss Up."
Some party financiers fear the presidency is slipping out of reach and want the party to shift its resources to protecting seats in Congress to limit any progressive ambitions of a Biden presidency.
“If Biden is truly close to being double digits ahead, then there’s no chance that we hold the Senate,” said Dan Eberhart, a Republican donor and an oil and gas executive who supports Trump. “If 2016 was a vote against Hillary (Clinton) and Trump has turned 2020 into a referendum against him, I wonder if some of these Senate candidates can hold on."
Brendan Buck, a Republican consultant, who was a top adviser to former House Speaker Paul Ryan, said it would be a rational response to steer resources to saving endangered incumbents.
“We need to protect the Senate and limit the damage in the House,” he said. “They can’t say it out loud, but the president is likely toast, and a Republican Senate can serve as a check on a Biden administration and Democratic House. Republicans also need to keep the House in reach of flipping it back in 2022.”
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Oh, I got it slightly wrong. They can't say out loud that Trump is toast, but that's what they're realizing, according to one who consults with them.
"Rasmussen - three points
IDB/TIPP - two points
Economist - nine points
Hill/Harris - four points"
Where are the 14 point Biden in the Landslide polls?
A member of Republican leadership
That was John Cornyn, and he simply stated that he disagrees with the President on issues like Spending, Covid response, and the wall. But saying that you disagree with the President on issues like spending (which many conservatives have been upset about) is not the same thing as claiming that Trump is "toast".
Some of the polls Lil Schitty failed to report......BWAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Wednesday, October 21
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
Florida: Trump vs. Biden CNN* Biden 50, Trump 46 Biden +4
Iowa: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 46, Trump 48 Trump +2
Iowa: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Biden 46, Trump 43 Biden +3
Iowa: Trump vs. Biden Monmouth* Biden 50, Trump 47 Biden +3
Arizona: Trump vs. Biden Rasmussen Reports Biden 48, Trump 47 Biden +1
Texas: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Trump 47, Biden 47 Tie
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden USA Today/Suffolk* Biden 49, Trump 42 Biden +7
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 51, Trump 43 Biden +8
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden CNN* Biden 53, Trump 43 Biden +10
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_biden-6861.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_biden-6841.html
I LIKE how these two polls are tending.
Biden’s Debate Strategy Is to Let Trump Be Trump
4:56 pm
The Hill:
“Biden and his team believe President Trump has done damage to his own campaign in recent weeks, a sentiment they see as being reflected in national and battleground state polls that show the Democrat with a lead.
“Their plan in the final presidential debate is to do nothing more than to underline the contrast between Biden and Trump, and to avoid any mistakes.”
TRUMP IS HIS OWN WORST ENEMY.
Almost Everyone Plans To Vote a Straight Party Ticket
4:13 pm
A new Pew Research poll finds just 4% of registered voters in states with a Senate contest say they will support Donald Trump or Joe Biden and a Senate candidate from the opposing party.
Likewise, just 4% of registered voters say they plan to vote for Biden and the Republican candidate for House in their district or Trump and the Democratic House candidate.
In a head to head match up, Biden leads Trump nationally,
52% to 42%.
Anonymous Caliphate4vr said...
The President will find a way to bring up Hunter Biden.
Of course trump will!!!!! When trump is down....he starts throwing shit and hope it sticks.....so far....most voters are smart enough to know Hunter is not running and the BS is just that BS!!!!!!!
More Than 40 Million Have Already Voted
With 13 days to go, more than 40 million ballots have already been cast in the 2020 presidential election.
That represents 30% of the total number of votes cast in the 2016 election
Fatass learn how to follow a thread, you mental midget. That Cold’s quote, I was responding you DUMBASS
You’re really tedious, tiresome, stupid and fat
The new CNN poll shows
The Pennsylvania results show Biden well ahead in the state, which holds 20 electoral votes, with 53% of likely voters behind him and 43% backing Trump.
Double digit
The Pennsylvania results show Biden well ahead in the state, which holds 20 electoral votes, with 53% of likely voters behind him and 43% backing Trump. It came out a few minutes ago
CNN poll. Lol.
Any yet Barack Obama is parachuting in to Philadelphia to save the Biden campaign in Pennsylvania.
Guiliani pats Bakalova on the waist. Then, lying on his back on the bed, Giuliani lowers his hand into his pants as Bakalova stands nearby.
At that point Cohen comes crashing back into the room — this time wearing a wig and women’s undergarments. “She’s 15, she’s too old for you!” Cohen yells.
Giuliani quickly bolts, calling to his security detail in the hallway. “Rudy, Trump will be disappointed. You are leaving hotel without golden shower,” Cohen shouts after him.
Trump was in Pennsylvania yesterday
Obama put on his boxing gloves and beat the shit out of the President.
Labor chiefs call 'emergency' session over Trump election threats
NBC News
WASHINGTON — AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka plans to convene an "emergency meeting" of the heads of major labor unions Friday to map out election contingency plans, NBC has learned.
Labor officials say they are preparing to counter any attempt by President Donald Trump's camp to interfere with the casting or counting of ballots at a time when the commander-in-chief's campaign says it is recruiting an "army" of volunteers to monitor polls.
The scenario-gaming reflects a broader and deeper unease among labor unions about both the outcome of the race and Trump's repeated suggestions that he will not accept the results if he loses.
"Trump's threats pose a clear and present danger to the election, our democracy and the future of the country," Trumka wrote in an invitation to the other union presidents that was obtained by NBC.
The group includes the leaders of the Service Employees International Union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters and the National Education Association, all of which have endorsed Democratic nominee Joe Biden.
In 2016, Trump’s victory was fueled by his popularity with working-class white men, many of whom are members of unions that typically back Democratic presidential candidates.
Labor officials say they believe Trump has turned off many union members who had affinity for him four years ago. But they are far from certain about who will win.
“First of all, we're not drinking anybody's Kool-Aid about the polls," Tefere Gebre, executive Vice President of the AFL-CO said of Biden’s narrow leads in swing states that are key to either candidate winning the presidency. "We are working our butt off."
He said labor groups plan plans to push back not only on any ballot interference but also against any "resistance" to the peaceful transfer of power should Biden win.
"We are putting labor councils on notice: The election is not over on November 3,” he said.
And while union officials who spoke to NBC played down the idea that they are preparing for possible confrontation at polling places, some allies of organized labor have been more explicit.
The Working Families Party, a progressive group founded and backed in part by labor unions, is supporting a new initiative called Election Defenders, which is training thousands of people across the country to work the polls because “we can’t depend on anyone else ensuring people are able to vote freely and safely.”
“Election Defenders will be working to provide safe supports for voting (such as PPE and water), and election and voter defense, de-escalating white supremacist intimidation tactics and signaling to a network of groups and lawyers if and where trouble breaks out,” reads the initiative’s training invitation.
On Tuesday, a few dozen staffers from major labor unions participated in a staff briefing that officials said was designed to get the organizations up to speed on election and post-election issues.
The topics of that discussion included:
*Possible Election Day outcomes;
*Intelligence on Trump's plans;
*Mapping out hot spots;
*Message research; and
*Period-by-period threat assessments.
In many of the battleground states, blue-collar workers are sharply divided between Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden.
Mike Mikus, a Democratic strategist based in western Pennsylvania, said Trump will “still get a fairly healthy number of some of the blue collar unions,” even if their leaders oppose the president. “But I think Joe Biden is in a stronger position,” he said.
“Labor is always critical to elections in Pennsylvania,” he added. “Just like the Democratic Party as a whole, they learned from some of their mistakes in terms of making a point. They're now communicating to every labor member rather than relying on data to assume how people will vote.”
Labor officials and Democratic strategists say that Trump's performance in office has made it more difficult for him to repeat the success his 2016 campaign had in making inroads with union voters.
The first union to endorse Biden during the Democratic primary, the International Association of Fire Fighters, is paying particularly close attention after their predominantly white male membership swung heavily towards Trump in 2016.
After voting narrowly for Obama twice, just 27 percent of IAFF members said they voted for Hillary Clinton in a post-election internal survey conducted by the union.
Harold Schaitberger, the union’s president who along with his chief of staff are the only people still working out of their Washington, DC headquarters during the pandemic, said his union’s latest internal data shows a big turnaround:
58 percent for Biden to 37 percent for Trump.
“There’s little question they have shifted to Joe,” said Schaitberger. “This is a whole different world where our membership finds itself now.”
Trump’s handling of the coronavirus crisis turned off many union voters who have put their health at risk to keep working.
“Prior to the global pandemic, it's safe to assume that there was some likelihood of a repeat of 2016 — that the Trump rhetoric is still resonant in the so-called Rust Belt states,” said Tracy Sefl, a Democratic consultant whose clients include labor groups. “However, folding coronavirus onto this has changed that dynamic. Has it totally upended it? Certainly not. But it has changed it.”
Gebre called Covid a "nail in the coffin" for Trump's appeal to unionized workers.
"This is about their survival, this is about their families," he said. "We already had our internal polling that showed us workers were figuring out there was no 'there' there in Donald Trump — no 'there' there when it comes to workers."
“We already had our internal polling that showed us workers were figuring out there was no ‘there’ there in Donald Trump — no ‘there’ there when it comes to workers,” Gebre said. “Covid has been a nail in the coffin for them. This is about their survival, this is about their families.”
In his first campaign rally appearance on behalf of Joe Biden, former President Barack Obama urged Americans to vote, saying "we can't afford another four years" of a Trump presidency.
Why it matters via Axios' Hans Nichols: With less than two weeks until Election Day, Obama made his case for Biden in Pennsylvania, a state that Trump's campaign knows he needs to win.
The big picture: The Biden campaign is drawing on Obama's popularity with Democrats to drive turnout and motivate voters.
"We can’t be complacent. I don't care about the polls," the former president said.
The state of play: Obama addressed a socially distant crowd in South Philadelphia at a drive-in rally Wednesday evening. Before taking the stage, he met with a roundtable of Black male elected officials to talk about the issues impacting their communities and to stress the importance of voting.
What he's saying: Obama noted that Trump’s tweets and unwillingness to condemn groups such as QAnon have "consequence ... They embolden other people to be cruel and divisive and racist. And It frays the fabric of our society.”
“We literally left this White House a pandemic playbook,” Obama said at the rally. “They probably used it to ... prop up a wobbly table somewhere.”‘What we do these next 13 days will matter for decades to come.”“You guys delivered for me twice, and I am back here tonight to ask you to deliver the White House for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,” Obama said.
Between the lines: Obama used both humor and blistering attacks to argue that Trump is unfit for office, referencing a recent New York Times story on Trump's alleged business dealings with China.
"Can you imagine if I had a secret Chinese bank account when I was running for re-election?" Obama asked the rally crowd. "They would have called me Beijing Barry."
Of note: In his earlier appearance at the roundtable, Obama said Americans "can't afford another four years" of Trump, though he did not mention the president by name.
He also pushed a get-out-the-vote message. “It’s not that voting makes everything perfect, it’s that it makes things better,” he said.
“If you don’t vote, then you are not at the table and then stuff is done to you,” Obama said.“Hope is not blind optimism, it’s not ignoring problems. Hope is believing in the face of difficulty that we can overcome and get a better world.“And so, I’ve never lost hope over these last four years."I’ve been mad. I’ve been frustrated, but I haven’t lost hope, and the reason is because I never expected progress to move directly in a straight line."
Blogger Roger Amick said...
In his first campaign rally appearance on behalf of Joe Biden, former President Barack Obama urged Americans to vote, saying "we can't afford another four years" of a Trump presidency.
Obama is using the royal "we". He can't afford another four years of Trump.
And you cannot afford another 4 minutes with trump and his spawn!!!!!! Sad how good a speaker Obama is and what a fucking moron is with trump and his latest lock him up with the morons applauding like you!!!!!!!
BS. Obama was using we as in We The People.
We’re Overthinking This Race
8:45 am
Tim Alberta:
“Generations of pollsters and journalists have fixated on the question of which candidate voters would rather have a beer with—a window into how personality translates into political success. Here’s the thing: Americans have been having a beer with Trump for the past four years—every morning, every afternoon, every evening. He has made himself more accessible than any president in history, using the White House as a performance stage and Twitter as a real-time diary for all to read. Like the drunk at the bar, he won’t shut up.
“Whatever appeal his unfiltered thoughts once held has now worn off. Americans are tired of having beers with Trump. His own supporters are tired of having beers with Trump. In hundreds of interviews this year with MAGA loyalists, I have noted only a handful in which the person did not, unsolicited, point to the president’s behavior as exhausting and inappropriate. Strip away all the policy fights, all the administrative action (or inaction), all the culture war politics, and the decision for many people comes down to a basic conclusion:They just do not approve of the president as a human being.”
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