Monday, October 12, 2020

World Health Organization now says extended lockdowns were not helpful or a good idea?

WHO: The only thing they accomplished was to increase poverty

What is most interesting about this is that it's not "really" a change in opinion or strategy. When this whole thing started, the idea was the lockdowns were just a means to flatten the curve. There was never any original intention that it would actually work to eliminate or even substantially reduce the amount of casualties. 

But the longer we stayed in these lockdowns, the more people became convinced that they could be used to completely mitigate the virus. There was no scientific evidence of this, only that it was an easy sell for a politician to convince a scared public that going out in public was some sort of death trap. 

At the end of the day, the numbers will suggest that lock downs did help lower the death toll, but to a very limited and very inconsistent degree.  They seemed to work in some places and fail miserably in others. There is simply no solid empirical evidence to make a claim that lock downs made a significant, consistent, and obvious effect. Certainly nothing that would be enough for a scientific theory to be objectively proven to have worked. 

The same can be said about the mask mandates. In some states and countries, they seem to be working. But in others, the implementation of the mask mandate has been followed by  a significant increase in cases. There seems to be no rhyme or reason for why these numbers differ from area to area. But again, if the mask mandates had a tangible scientific effect, then there should be consistency as to when and where they are used. 

The cold truth is that our medical experts were caught flat-footed on this one. We were not prepared for a pandemic such as this, and it's possible to suggest that we never really will be prepared for a pandemic that involves a new virus. These viruses start their carnage immediately, while our medical involvement takes time to work through. It is an impossible situation. 


25 comments:

Anonymous said...



Incredible: Now That the Op Has Achieved Its Goal, WHO Announces That... We Won't Need Any More Lockdowns




Just in time for Biden's anticipated presidency.

Now how about that.

And who's paying money to WHO's director? Oh right, the Communist Chinese Party that despises Trump.

Now they tell us! After pushing lockdowns around the world for months, the World Health Organization has reversed course. WHO's special envoy on COVID-19, David Nabarro, said in a recent interview, "We really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method." He went on to say what lockdown skeptics have been screaming for months: that the main effect of these policies is to devastate economies, and especially the poor. "Look what's happened to smallholder farmers all over the world," he said. "Look what's happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition."

You don't say.

Nabarro did give himself a bit of wiggle room, claiming that "the only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we'd rather not do it." Still, since we're in, what, month seven of these measures, WHO advice to world leaders is now: "Stop with the lockdowns." Someone should tell Joe Biden.


Oh, never you worry about that. They already have November 4 penciled in as World Reopening Party Day.

The article goes on to note that there have been no studies establishing that lockdowns are effective at preventing viral spread-- remember when Studies were absolutely critical? Remember when we couldn't prescribe HCQ to anyone until we had all the Studies completed?

But with lockdowns-- we don't need no stinkin' studies.

The article also notes the WHO pushed for lockdowns in 2020, the year of Trump's reelection campaign.

And now -- whoops. Whoopsie!

The media will of course continue claiming We Love The Science (TM) as they continue pushing for witchdoctor lockdowns with absolutely no studies establishing their safety or effectiveness.

Until November 4, that is.



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anonymous said...

Incredible how Lil Schitty mis represents the WHO statement......primalrly they said lock downs were not recommended as the first line of covid, but should be used judicially and with limited reach!!! Sorry but you assholes like Ace and rat, take that to mean a complete course reversal, which it is not!!!!!!!! God dayum any port and lie in a storm!!!!

Anonymous said...

WHO Epic Failure.


Anonymous said...

Unlimited Lockdown is what Biden WILL DO AGAIN.

Anonymous said...





actually BWAA, lockdowns are completely and totally political, and the timing of the reversal in alignment with the election is NO coincidence.

10 years ago no one went apeshit over H1N1. it was "wash your hands and pass the hand sanitizer." and we had 60,000,000 infections.

in 2020 democrats were completely fine with cratering a $23 TRILLION economy, all because of the "bad orange man."









Anonymous said...

"Nabarro said tight restrictions cause significant harm, particularly on the global economy.

“Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never, ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer,” he said."

A big fat TOLD YA SO.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

State by state shutdown effectively varies. The states that kept the shutdown effect, had a lower level of infections. The states that eased the shutdown, have a higher percentage of infections.

The link I will post, has graphic examples, show that shutdowns are very effective.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/state-data-and-policy-actions-to-address-coronavirus/


I can't post the graphs.

C.H. Truth said...

What a dumb graph, old Roger...

California is conveniently missing in spite of having one of the highest number of new cases and deaths consistently for the past several weeks. New York and New Jersey are still number one and two in terms of most deaths. Massachusetts and Connecticut are also not listed and rank three and four in most deaths.


This is an attempt to once again deflect the 50,000 deaths alone in New York and New Jersey, by suggesting that the "real" way we should measure the effects of Covid isn't in how many people "die" - but what is the "rate of infection" today.


Why are liberals no longer concerned with how many people are dying?

This is just another GREAT example of how stupid politics are right now and why I didn't miss a second of ignoring it all together.

Anonymous said...



Blogger C.H. Truth said...

What a dumb graph, old Roger...


in the realm of health care kaiser's partisan hackery is without equal.

and it was the source of the alky's "proof" that pre-existing conditions would lose coverage if the ACA was overturned.




Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

North Dakota Nebraska, Montana, Idaho, a dozen other Republican states are showing higher per person infections.


You don't care how many people will die, because you support the President, who knew that it was spread by breathing in February 7th and didn't want to scare the people!

Anonymous said...




"There are no solutions. There are only trade-offs." —Thomas Sowell


A curious thing happened on October 2. In fact, it was so curious, America's mainstream media completely ignored it. That's the day Dr. Mike Ryan, director of the World Health Organization's health emergencies program, stated that an estimated 750 million, or 10% of the world's population, had contracted coronavirus. Furthermore, according to the WHO's website, approximately one million people have died. Thus, according the WHO's own data, the mortality rate for coronavirus is 0.13%.


If that rate seems familiar, maybe it's because it's the exact same mortality rate as the seasonal flu, according to data from the CDC — and for decades, America and the rest of world have approached the flu exactly as Thomas Sowell has described. Some people get flu shots, most stay home when they're sick, and tens of thousands of the most vulnerable pay the ultimate price, even as the world soldiers on around them.



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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Percentage of infections are higher in states that opened up.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Percentage of infections are higher in states that opened up.

Anonymous said...



Blogger Roger Amick said...

North Dakota Nebraska, Montana, Idaho, a dozen other Republican states are showing higher per person infections.



the number of infections is meaningless.



Anonymous said...



Blogger Roger Amick said...

Percentage of infections are higher in states that opened up.



number of infections is meaningless. what matters is the number of hospitalizations and deaths.


ALBANY — The number of people being hospitalized after testing positive for coronavirus in New York has increased by more than 70 percent over the past month, according to the most recent numbers released Sunday.

The number of COVID-19 patients hospitalized statewide Saturday was 820 — compared with 474 hospitalizations on Sept. 11.


https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/New-York-COVID-19-hospitalizations-up-73-percent-15637694.php

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, Republicans fight against economic shutdowns because they damaged the economy. The President has caused the situation because he is the most incompetent person ever elected President.

If he had acted like FDR or Winston Churchill in a critical moment tens of thousands Americans would alive.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Percentage matters

C.H. Truth said...

North Dakota Nebraska, Montana, Idaho, a dozen other Republican states are showing higher per person infections.

Between those four states, they have a grand whopping total of 1575 total deaths (all together from the start). Between New York & New Jersey, they were seeing that every single day back in their peak.


When you had almost no infections and a small population, it's takes almost nothing to show an increase. Especially when a place like South Dakota is now testing almost 3000 people a day (when they had been testing only a few hundred).

But as someone who also lived in South Dakota and still lives next door. The people of South Dakota are pretty damned pleased with how their Governor handled things.

Of course, most people like being treated as adults.

Just not west coast liberals. You guys need to be told what to do!

Caliphate4vr said...

FDR and Churchill could have made the vaccine. It’s a virus you dumbass

Anonymous said...



Blogger Roger Amick said...

Percentage matters




ALBANY — The number of people being hospitalized after testing positive for coronavirus in New York has increased by more than 70 percent over the past month, according to the most recent numbers released Sunday.

The number of COVID-19 patients hospitalized statewide Saturday was 820 — compared with 474 hospitalizations on Sept. 11.


Patients in intensive care units were also up to 186 Saturday, compared with 120 people a month ago, an increase of 55 percent.

Fatalities, however, continue to remain low, with five deaths reported statewide Saturday.


https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/New-York-COVID-19-hospitalizations-up-73-percent-15637694.php


5 deaths statewide.

it's the fucking FLU.


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

LATEST NUMBERS OF Deaths Per Million

In all the United States of America:
662 per one million
In states with Democratic Governors:
700 per one million
In states with Republican Governors:
610 per one million

Notice that Ch can no longer brag
that states with Republican governors
have only one fourth,
or one half,
or even two thirds
as many deaths per million
as states with Democratic governors.

That is because
the numbers of death per million
in states with Republican governors
are rapidly catching up to
the numbers of death per million
in states with Democratic governors.

C.H. Truth said...

Notice that Ch can no longer brag

But one could brag that the blue states have an unemployment rate that is almost 1.5 times higher than the red states.

So the red states are still better in terms of deaths per million and their unemployment rates.


Where is your bravado regarding the Blue States?

That they are not doing "that much worse" across the board in both categories as a result of them taking away more freedoms?


Seriously Reverend. I swear that you (like Roger) just love to be told what you can and cannot do by your political leaders. Follow the stupid politicians! They know what's best...

for you!

C.H. Truth said...

So Reverend - is it:

I really really really want my freedoms taken away. I want the Government to tell me what to do...

and by doing so, they didn't make the virus or the economy "that much worse"?



Is that your argument?

Anonymous said...

C.H. TruthOctober 12, 2020 at 11:03 AM

What a dumb graph, old Roger...
"

Well, it is Roger and math eludes him.

Biden said he would shut US down.

At odds with the science.

Anonymous said...

WTO, poor are getting poorer, no shit.

Yet, Roger supports as does Fake Pastor, the policy of Biden.