Friday, November 6, 2020

A little late to the party?

Trump says what I have believed for years...  

Second, I agree with the president that pollsters deliberately reported bad results for most of this campaign cycle. Because of everything that has come to light in the last four years, I am much more cynical now than I was in 2016. Then, I assumed bad polling represented innocent errors. Now, I think that most pollsters, especially those associated with liberal media organizations like ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal and so on, deliberately reported absurd results in order to encourage Democratic Party fundraising, depress Republican fundraising, and demoralize Republican voters. Then in the last days before the election, when their goals had been more or less achieved, they released more realistic polls (albeit still wrong in most cases) and said Trump is catching up! I think the whole thing is deliberately engineered BS, and I am glad to hear Trump say it.

I have actually made this argument time and time again. Early polling is simply a tool to create a narrative, rather than report a narrative. Pollster figure if they get the last one fairly close, that they can claim to have caught some sort of last minute surge (Comey announcement or some nonsense) and look smart. After the fact, only the last polls for each pollster really count anyways. 

The difference between most every other election and this year was that many of the pollsters never came back with a "final" poll that was more realistic. While you had several polls still showing Clinton with double digit leads in mid to late October, they all sort of fell into place in that 3-5 point range (which when averaged with those that were more favorable to Trump) created an average not too far off the final result. This time you had multiple pollsters that had final polls with ridiculous double digit leads, and most of the other media polls were close to that double digit range.

It was as if they were "all in" on the narrative that this was going to be a blue wave of epic proportions. It was even difficult for me to manage to scrape together a realistic spreadsheet with some of the nonsense that the pollster were handing out. Biden leading by 30 points with Independents? Biden picking up 15% of Republican voters? 

Who was accurate? IBD/TIPP has gotten it pretty close (50.2-46.2) and probably pretty close with the demographic breakdown as well.  Rasmussen was the only one who would have come in with better numbers for Trump than the final results, but will still end up closer to the final mark than 90% of the other pollsters. The Hill also had it at 4 points, so along with TIPP they seem accurate? Emerson was not too far off at 5 points.

The big losers? CNN had Biden at 12 points, Quinnipiac  (didn't you used to be legitimate) came in with Biden at +11. CNBC, NBC/WSJ, Reuters, and the Economist all had double digit leads. NYT/Sienna had it at 9%. Fox, USA Today, and SUSA had it at 8 points. 

All that being said, look for Nate Silver to continue to mark the NYT, CNN, and Quinnipiac as A+ pollsters and provide their results with more weight.... that is, if anyone is still listening to Nate Silver come 2022. 


24 comments:

Anonymous said...

"I promise you if I'm elected president, you're going to see the single most important thing that changes America," Biden announced. "We're gonna cure cancer."

Anonymous said...

There is no punishment for this kind of cheating for Socialist Democrats.

"CNN had Biden at 12 points, Quinnipiac  (didn't you used to be legitimate) came in with Biden at +11. CNBC, NBC/WSJ, Reuters, and the Economist all had double digit leads. Fox, USA Today, and SUSA had it at 8 points. "


Anonymous said...



The big losers? CNN had Biden at 12 points, Quinnipiac (didn't you used to be legitimate) came in with Biden at +11. CNBC, NBC/WSJ, Reuters, and the Economist all had double digit leads. Fox, USA Today, and SUSA had it at 8 points.


losers? hardly. they're all winners. they managed to engineer an outcome. the only way you could consider them losers is if they got it this wrong unintentionally and actually showed some shame or remorse.

no, they're not losers. not by a long shot. they're laughing all the way to the inauguration since they've finally achieved the coup that they sought.

Anonymous said...

Sen Susan Collins , won by 9%.

The Blue-Stream Press reports were criminally wrong.

Anonymous said...

Senate Race Kansas
Republican Marshall Won by 12.1%.

Yet, The Blue-Stream Press reported it was going to be win by a Socialist Democrat Interloper.

Myballs said...

Trafalgar had it right. Again.

Anonymous said...



The Blue-Stream Press reports were criminally wrong.


the left is so fucking stupid, they went all in to steal it for Slow Joe, but never thought of cheating and stealing some down ballot races to give their theft an air of legitimacy.

Anonymous said...

Sen. Graham, won by 10%.

What a pile of stream bullshit the The Blue-Stream Press is.

Anonymous said...



excellent:


An apartment management company co-owned by White House senior adviser Jared Kushner has taken action in court to evict hundreds of tenants whose finances have taken a hit from COVID -19, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Westminster Management has moved against largely low- and middle-income tenants in the Baltimore area, many of them Black, whose apartments are managed by the company, according to the Post.

A state moratorium protects tenants against evictions as people struggle with loss of jobs during the pandemic. A federal moratorium for government-supported housing, which includes some run by Westminster, also offers tenant protections during the crisis.

But Westminster, which manages some 20,000 apartments, and other management companies are eager to get started on the process against tenants with past-due rent.

One resident of a Westminster-managed apartment Tashika Booker, told the Post she lost her job working for an online education company because of the pandemic. She said she’s struggling to pay rent as she seeks other work.


https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/jared-kushner-trump-covid-19-evictions-132917920.html


start the ball rolling NOW, and be prepared to throw these cocksuckers out in the fucking street the first day the law allows.

make them enjoy their Biden/Harris vote with all that goes along with it.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Who gives a damn about this thread. I'll go back to the celebrative thread below.

Myballs said...

Buh bye

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Phocaean Dionysius
@PhocaeanD

Here is a list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit): https://pastebin.com/zjz6nm6Q

Here is the website where you can verify it: https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index

#23 CLAUDIA,MILLER,1918,48234 (You have to guess-check the month of birth)

Go try it out.

https://twitter.com/PhocaeanD/status/1324531466404044801

Looks like Trump gave the dems enough rope to hang themselves.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

LORI HENDRY STOP THE STEAL
@Lrihendry

Looks like the same people counting Covid cases are counting the mail-in ballots.

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

jon gabriel
@exjon

Trump "should not concede under any circumstances, because I think this is going to drag out, and eventually I do believe he will win if we don't give an inch, and if we are as focused and relentless as the other side is.” Hillary Clinton

(oh wait, that was her advice to Biden)


anonymous said...

Sad that Lil Schitty will blame everything for trumps dismal failures!!!!! The complaining will go on and on and on and nothing will get done!!!!!! BTW.....thinking the polls were in it to cause R's not to vote is complete BS!!!!! I personally drove 630 miles to vote in floriduh even thinking Biden was ahead....I believe most R's have more brains than even you give them credit for!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!!!

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Tim Pool
@Timcast

Isn't it funny how these states could count millions of ballots but then all of a sudden had to stop to spend three days counting thousands

Often with no one looking

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

Kevin Sorbo
@ksorbs

I flipped a coin 138,000 times and it landed heads each time, believe me

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

If this is fake counting, why is Biden's lead in Arizona decreasing? Hmmmmm?

I won't necessarily hang around for whatever stupid answer someone comes up with. Or not.

Anonymous said...




Let's not sugarcoat it; it's evil. He exposed it, tried like hell to fight it and even now, he's still in there and is not going to give up. As painful as it is to say this, as far as I'm concerned, America is dead. It's better to face that fact than to keep on deluding ourselves otherwise. Even if by some miracle Trump manages to win just one more time, we still face what is in fact an implacable and formidable enemy in our midst. The Democrat Party, the Deep State bureaucracy, a lying propagandistic media, and the brainwashing mills of academia. And in two years time and then another two we'll have to do this all over again.

It's one thing to have rigged elections in places like Haiti or Iran. When your economy is in ruins and there's no work or food, it's easy for ordinary people to take to the streets and attempt to oust the tyrants. Over here, only one side of that equation is in effect. The illusion of normalcy still exists. Naturally, it's projected by the Democrats as we the majority of decent people looked upon as a minority of violent racists led by an orange-tinged demagogue who's literally Hitler. That said, while we bitch and moan about what our so-called leaders aren't doing, what are we doing? Or better still, given the situation, what can we do? Or G-d forbid what are we willing to do?

Whatever the outcome, the Left and everything in this country that it controls must be defeated and never allowed near the instrumentalities of political and societal control and influence. Forget the Constitution, the rule of law or anything else. Perhaps in a sense, it really is outdated, insofar as evil people have been using it as a cudgel and a shield to conquer us from within. But it's not the failings of that document or the men who drafted it. It's the failings of the citizenry who over time lost their sense of morality and ethics. There is no difference between the goon who refused to let in a legitimate poll watcher in to do his job than there is for Chief Justice John Roberts. Or the mouth-breathing asshole who registered someone who's been dead for 36 years to cast a vote for Biden than there is of Biden himself.



http://ace.mu.nu/archives/391156.php



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

from the more interesting thread below:

We are about to see (and it has already begun) an American president trying to steal an election.

anonymous said...

n't it funny how these states could count millions of ballots but then all of a sudden had to stop to spend three days counting thousands

Typical circular logic from the dumb fucked daddy!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Biden Campaign Prepares for No Trump Concession
10:30 am
The Biden campaign responds to reports that President Trump won’t concede:

“As we said on July 19th, the American people will decide this election. And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House."

WOW!

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

JamesNewLeaf said...
Who gives a damn about this thread. I'll go back to the celebrative thread below.


The lying, plagiarizing POS "pastor" returns to soil this thread with his Goddard FAKE NEWS garbage.

Guess he gives a damn about this thread.

ROFLMFAO !!!

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...

thebradfordfile™
@thebradfordfile

These GOP wins in the House are making Biden's vote count appear more and more and more absurd.


He's so decrepit and his followers so TDS infected they can't see it.

The screams are going to be out of this world.