Trump's Bid to Overturn the Vote Crashes Into Deadlines 10:51 am “President Trump’s effort to overturn the election results is about to smash into reality: a gauntlet of battleground state deadlines that are poised to extinguish his increasingly desperate attempts to hold onto the presidency,” Politico reports.
“Michigan is due to certify its state results Monday. Arizona and Pennsylvania counties must also finalize their results the same day. On the heels of Georgia’s certification of Joe Biden’s victory on Friday, the series of administrative deadlines stands to all but formalize Biden’s win by officially affirming the results in enough contested states to put him over the 270-electoral-vote threshold.”
SECOND, WE SHOULD FACE THIS:
Why We Are Numb to 250,000 Deaths 10:56 am “The U.S. passed 250,000 confirmed deaths from COVID-19 this week, a figure that is truly vast — too vast, perhaps, for us to comprehend,” Axios reports.
“The psychic numbing that sets in around mass death saps us of our empathy for victims and discourages us from making the sacrifices needed to control the pandemic, while it hampers our ability to prepare for other rare but potentially catastrophic risks down the road.”
THIRD, WHILE CH CONTINUES HIS TIRADE AGAINST THE EFFICACY OF MASKS, WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW FRIGHTENINGLY UNCERTAIN OUR SITUATION NOW IS--
Infections Hit Unprecedented Levels in California 10:52 am “California capped a week of unprecedented coronavirus spread, with officials unsure how much worse it will get while placing hope that new restrictions could help slow infections as the holidays approach,” the Los Angeles Times reports.
“The staggering rise in cases caught many off guard, with long lines at some testing facilities and worries about whether Thanksgiving will cause even more people to be infected.” _________ There are serious concerns now in my own county about whether medical facilities may be inadequate for what is soon to come.
Both Illinois and California have solid Democratic leadership who are mandating everything and anything they can... There are no evil Republicans in those states undermining efforts to mandate draconian measures.
If these Draconian Democratic efforts are failing, perhaps it's time to give into the idea that your local politician cannot control Mother nature.
Or perhaps you can just just remain delusional in your idea that somehow this is not Mother Nature who has released the virus and allowed it to run rampant in your state... but that it's all the fault of things the "bad orange man" said back in February. As if the "bad orange man" is all controlling of everything.
The elections over, Reverend... you can stop pretending for politics sake.
If these Draconian Democratic efforts are failing,
Gee Lil Schitty......your argument and opinions are both weak and stupid.....!!!!! Funny how some R states like Ohio, ND and Iowa have come around to the side of caution....Your dumb ass mask study you so proudly posted yesterday has more holes in it than your fat head!!!!!!! Please....go out and mingle in a crowd without a mask.....it is your life and you are entitled to be as stupid as you want in spite of what being said.....I personally don't care what you do as long as you do it to yourself.....very sad what a pile of human garbage you have become for trump!!!!!
CHT , don't forget Michigan, where Gov. Bruce Jenner is killing jobs, causing rampid poverty and while sale collapse. "Both Illinois and California have solid Democratic leadership who are mandating everything and anything they can... There are no evil Republicans in those states undermining efforts to mandate draconian measures.
If these Draconian Democratic efforts are failing, perhaps it's time to give into the idea that your local politician cannot control Mother nature."
Gee.....James....I thought it was beyond Lil Schitty's bias to make the virus a red blue issue.....since the virus does not discriminate by race, creed or color!!!! However, it suits. Lil Schitty's inability to make a cogent argument any more and chooses the simplistic blame game the GOP is famous for!!!!!!!
We just had a national election to select new leadership.
If there ever was a time when we as a people need to begin to unite around that new leadership in facing the immense problems confronting us, especially this pandemic, it is now.
In trying to prevent that, Trump will go down in history even more as the most unbelievably perverse president we have ever had.
If there ever was a time when we as a people need to begin to unite around that new leadership in facing the immense problems confronting us, especially this pandemic, it is now.
never.
i will wish the absolute worst upon this new administration every single fucking day.
i tend to treat thieves like the pieces of shit that they are.
WOULD BE DICTATOR Trump Tries to Drum Out GOP Elections Officials 11:58 am EST “President Trump has driven senators into retirement and tweeted wayward Republicans into primary defeat during four years leading the GOP.
"Now, as a lame duck, he’s launched a new campaign against GOP election officials who won’t bend to his will,” Politico reports.
"Trump’s drive to discredit the results of an election he lost has put him at odds with the Republican elected officials and administrators who oversaw the vote in key states — and called it what it was: a free and fair election.
"Being at odds with Trump doesn’t go over well in today’s Republican Party, and Trump has turned their political bases against them, even unleashing threats from his most rabid supporters."
Quote of the Day 11:56 am EST “The founders would be absolutely horrified because this is what they always worried about.” — Presidential historian Michael Beschloss, in an i interview with NPR, on President Trump’s efforts to subvert the vote.
Yesterday , with the assistance of my hard working wife, we put up two cords of red oak for home heating for 2023-2024 heating season. All snug in the wood barn.
This sinister "Great Reset" stuff suggests we really might be approaching the "end of history" this time - not with the worldwide acceptance of classical liberalism, but with its decisive rejection in favor of "soft" and "limited" authoritarianism. The new consensus spreading among Western political elites is that some issues must be taken off the table, placed beyond the reach of voters, "settled" - and thus enforced - by power that cannot be subordinated to democracy.
In other words, the list of things "free people" don't get to vote against or refuse to accept grows longer. The size and power of centralized government swells to a scale undreamed-of by the founders of a constitutional republic. Very little of it can be voted out of office.
This is all supposedly justified in the name of protecting what remains of democracy, and sanding the rough edges off of capitalism. The elites tell themselves they aren't really authoritarians - they're just helping "true" liberty flourish by limiting and nourishing it.
The people cannot be allowed to make choices that would interfere with the government-provided "rights" of others - in other words, the socialized goods and services everyone is "entitled" to. People must be made "free" from want, from insult, even from the need to work.
Whatever remains of free society after those authoritarian boundaries are drawn will become the new playground sandbox of liberty - smaller, but safer and more comfortable. All that is not steel will be velvet. All that is not demanded will be provided.
The elite will find just the right amount of authoritarian control to protect The People. You'll still be allowed to own some capital, provided you use it the "right" way. You can be ambitious, but not greedy. You can speak sort-of freely, but only about approved topics.
This is now the great illusion of the 21st Century, brought into focus by the coronavirus pandemic, which will be employed to kill classical liberalism by supposedly "proving" that the most important challenges can only be tackled with authoritarian control.
The delusion will be that authoritarianism can be tamed and harnessed to protect "free" societies. Authoritarianism will become the sleek scientific, industrial, and moral engine that pulls free people into the new century and beyond.
Look at what is happening in Republican states that have resisted lock downs and mask wearing and social distancing. For some reason, Ch has stopped giving us the statistics.
As of yesterday, Democratic run states still held a 805/million to 740/million gap, and with Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota all competing with South Dakota, North Dakota, Indiana, Wyoming and Utah... the upper midwest great lakes problem is not going to help that number for your Democratic states.
Only really Ohio, Indiana, and Iowa is Republican in those areas.
RRB, the standard of "unity" was presented to the US, by Obama/Biden/Hillary in 2016.
the hypocrisy is without end.
every asshole calling for unity and healing was part of the resistance that NEVER accepted the outcome of the 2016 election, and some went so far as to stage a fucking coup.
and now they want everyone to coalesce around a pair of fucking scumbags who stole this election?
no fucking way.
never.
third world shithole dictatorships pull this shit.
if you're a democrat you are my sworn mortal enemy.
Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus.
I believe 200,000 new cases and 2000 new deaths... over an opinion that masks are working really really well!
So unless you want to argue that 200,000 new cases and 2000 new deaths are a good number proving the effectiveness of masks, I think you should stop pointing to "opinions".
It’s official; Barack Obama displaced Jimmy Carter as the worst president in the history of the USA. The determination was made by the esteemed historian Thomas Sowell.
Major reasons include Obama’s role in undermining the healthcare industry, his irresponsible immigration stance, his corrosive race-baiting that set the stage for the tsunami of Black Lives Matter riots, his push toward a fascist-style economic system, his facilitation of Iran’s nuclear weapons program, and his pernicious (not to mention astonishingly hypocritical) Marxist rhetoric:
The major reason why the blue states have a higher rate of infections, is because they have the most densely populated cities in the country.
Highly densely populations are causing the higher per capita infection rates. Close contact is dangerous. The President has made masking political, and has committed involuntary homicide.
"So unless you want to argue that 200,000 new cases and 2000 new deaths are a good number proving the effectiveness of masks, I think you should stop pointing to "opinions".
200,000 cases and 2000 deaths because of what the "bad orange man" has said???? You don't see the idiocy in that, because you are too far gone with TDS.
Here is the reality, Texas has had a mask mandate since July. California has had a mask mandate since June. Illinois has had one in place since August. Michigan has the most draconian shut down and mandate measures in the country.
Those are your top four states from yesterday's 200,000 cases Rog!
Please explain how the "bad orange man" has promoted such medical carnage when all of those states are all wearing masks?
Sorry to introduce something else into this thread, but this from the next thread is interesting:
JamesNewLeaf said: Historians will NOT record this election as having been stolen.
CH said: Just as they did "NOT" record the 2016 as being stolen by the Russians. But just as Trump spent 4 years being dissed by Democrats claiming he was illegitimate, the same will be said about Joe Biden by conservatives.
When even 30% of your own Party believes Democratic poll workers and vote counters likely cheated to make sure Biden won... there is going to be a problem.
A problem that could be solved by a little bit of transparency and just a little bit of effort in avoiding suspicious behavior. If there was nothing to hide, then why did so many of these counties work sooooooo hard to prevent legal poll watchers from actually watching?
Moreover Reverend... why are the counties attempting to block or remove poll watchers from watching (as the law provides) always run by Democrats?
If you can give me ONE good reason why someone wants to do this sort of work without any supervision or anyone watching... then please provide it. Because so far, nobody has provided a reasonable explanation what-so-ever. ___________
November 21, 2020 at 11:10 AM JamesNewLeaf responded:
Ch, would you please give us any evidence you have as to which court has agreed with the accusation that poll watchers were blocked. _________
JamesNewLeaf later added: While readers are waiting, they might want to look at this:
The major reason why the blue states have a higher rate of infections, is because they have the most densely populated cities in the country.
Highly densely populations are causing the higher per capita infection rates. Close contact is dangerous. Even if they are wearing masks.
Plus people choose to refuse to believe the scientists over the lame duck President have refused to wear masks in blue states has caused medical carnage.
addition to 11:42 C.H. Truth said... Sorry James... There was actual video posted online of poll watchers being removed, poll watchers being placed 25' away, poll watchers not being allowed in.
There was a viral video where one precinct removed the last remaining Republican poll watcher for "not properly wearing his mask" and the poll workers broke out in applause.
There were court cases where Judges had to order precincts to allow the poll watchers in.
So with all due respect to "polifact" (which is none) - you're full of shit and once again simply refuse to EVER address anything. You just deny things in plain sight, like every liberal does..
So this is why I rarely bother to engage in these threads anymore. It's just so pathetic. _____________
To which I, James, replied, Well, Ch, it looks like you are forced to admit that some of the claims that poll watchers were not allowed to watch are bogus. "Pants on Fire" bogus, as a matter of fact.
Seems to me, if true, and widely true, the results of the election could be overthrown.
Why is it that Trump's supporters are having so little success in the courts?
And why are local election officials, both Democratic and Republican, so indignantly angered by accusations that they did not run fair elections when they made every attempt to do so?
You can make all kinds of ridiculous charges (just look at Giuliani and Powell) but proof is needed, evidence that holds up in court.
Involuntary manslaughter is defined as an unintentional killing that results either from criminal negligence or the commission of a low-level criminal act such as a misdemeanor. Involuntary manslaughter is distinguished from other forms of homicide because it does not require deliberation or premeditation, or intent.
QAnon. Described by the FBI as a new domestic terror threat, this cult believes Trump is locked in a struggle with a cabal of Satan-worshipping, Democratic Party-supporting pedophiles. Yet the president has repeatedly refused to condemn QAnon, saying that “these are people that love our country” and “I do know they are very much against pedophilia, they fight it very hard.”
Here’s a state-by-state rundown of the riskiest states to visit as we head into Thanksgiving, along with an overview of current Covid-19 protocols.
1) North Dakota
Last week: No. 2
Risk factors: New statewide mask mandate - 203.6 new daily cases per 100,000 people - 14.8% of Covid tests are positive
Last week, North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum, a Republican, finally announced a month-long statewide mask mandate. Masks must be worn in indoor businesses and public spaces and outside in public spaces when social distancing is impossible. Burgum’s critics say the governor has waited too long to address the crisis.
Yesterday, Burgum said that he reversed his opposition to a statewide mask policy in response to the state’s hospital capacity and staffing crisis. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is sending 60 air force nurses to North Dakota hospitals to assist with the Covid-19 response next week.
North Dakota is racking up an average of 203.6 new daily Covid-19 cases per 100,000 people, on a rolling weekly average, according to the Harvard-Brown risk-assessment tool. That’s up 44% since last week. Any state with over 25 new daily cases per 100,000 people is colored red on the map, which means it is considered “at a tipping point.” North Dakota’s risk level is more than 700% above that threshold.
North Dakota’s percent positive rate is 14.8%, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. The percent positive should ideally be under 5%, according the World Health Organization. Positivity has been rising for the past two consecutive weeks.
2) South Dakota
Last week: No. 1
Risk factors: No statewide mask mandate - 145.8 new daily cases per 100,000 people - 48.2% of Covid tests are positive
South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, a Republican, has been so defiantly anti-mask that she’s earned the unfortunate nickname of “Covid Kristi.” Her state was the epicenter of Covid-19 spread for several weeks until it was recently surpassed by North Dakota.
In her first news conference in months to address the pandemic, Noem said last week that those who don’t wear masks are making a “personal decision” and deserve respect. Meanwhile, several South Dakota cities have imposed their own mask requirements.
This week, the Mount Rushmore State is recording a 145.8 new Covid-19 cases per 100,000 people, on a rolling weekly average. That’s down slightly from last week but still 483% above the “tipping point” threshold.
South Dakota’s percent positive rate is 48.2%, the third highest in the country. Nearly half of all Covid tests come back positive. The percent positivity has risen in South Dakota for the past two consecutive weeks, which suggests that the state is not close to getting the virus under control.
Scott you should have surrendered and open up a real topic page
South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, a Republican, has been so defiantly anti-mask that she’s earned the unfortunate nickname of “Covid Kristi.” Her state was the epicenter of Covid-19 spread for several weeks until it was recently surpassed by North Dakota.
Even Barr isn't going to help him steal the election. The Justice Department has met President Trump’s fantastical claims of widespread voter fraud with two weeks of skeptical silence, not taking any overt moves to investigate what Trump’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, claims is a globe-spanning conspiracy to steal the election. Such deafening silence from one of the government’s main enforcers of election law indicates just how little evidence there is to support the wild, wide-ranging claims made by Trump and his supporters, most notably Giuliani in a Thursday news conference held inside the Republican National Committee headquarters. Privately, Justice Department officials have said they are willing to investigate legitimate claims of vote fraud; Attorney General William P. Barr even loosened some restrictions that might otherwise have discouraged prosecutors from doing so before results are certified. [As defeats pile up, Trump tries to delay vote count] But current and former officials said they thought Giuliani’s accusations sounded “crazy,” and they have not seen or heard of any evidence suggesting large-scale fraud, let alone the kind of intercontinental conspiracy described by the president’s lawyer. Like others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a politically sensitive matter. A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.
So did Trump really believe Giuliani's and Sydney Powell's nonsense and think it would lead to a chain reaction that would sweep him into power? Did he really believe that?
GOP Leaders Ask Michigan to Delay Certification 4:39 pm EST “The heads of the Republican National Committee and Michigan Republican Party issued a joint statement Saturday calling for Michigan’s state canvassing board to delay certification of the results of the election, marking the latest attempt by party leaders to intervene in the state’s electoral process,” the Washington Post reports.
“In the letter — signed by RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, who is from Michigan, and state GOP Chair Laura Cox — the officials ask the canvassing board to adjourn for 14 days and allow for a ‘full audit and investigation’ before they convene to certify the state’s election results, a procedural step that is set to take place on Monday afternoon.” _________
What is difficult to believe is the amount of people who still believe in trump....He is mad and his playing golf while america burns clearly sends the message he don't give a fuck about anything but golf!!!!! He is a sick dangerous mad man with thousands of cultists following him....the newest Jim Jones!!!!!!
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FIRST, THIS SHOULD BE NOTED:
Trump's Bid to Overturn the Vote Crashes Into Deadlines
10:51 am
“President Trump’s effort to overturn the election results is about to smash into reality: a gauntlet of battleground state deadlines that are poised to extinguish his increasingly desperate attempts to hold onto the presidency,” Politico reports.
“Michigan is due to certify its state results Monday. Arizona and Pennsylvania counties must also finalize their results the same day. On the heels of Georgia’s certification of Joe Biden’s victory on Friday, the series of administrative deadlines stands to all but formalize Biden’s win by officially affirming the results in enough contested states to put him over the 270-electoral-vote threshold.”
SECOND, WE SHOULD FACE THIS:
Why We Are Numb to 250,000 Deaths
10:56 am
“The U.S. passed 250,000 confirmed deaths from COVID-19 this week, a figure that is truly vast — too vast, perhaps, for us to comprehend,” Axios reports.
“The psychic numbing that sets in around mass death saps us of our empathy for victims and discourages us from making the sacrifices needed to control the pandemic, while it hampers our ability to prepare for other rare but potentially catastrophic risks down the road.”
THIRD, WHILE CH CONTINUES HIS TIRADE AGAINST THE EFFICACY OF MASKS, WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW FRIGHTENINGLY UNCERTAIN OUR SITUATION NOW IS--
Infections Hit Unprecedented Levels in California
10:52 am
“California capped a week of unprecedented coronavirus spread, with officials unsure how much worse it will get while placing hope that new restrictions could help slow infections as the holidays approach,” the Los Angeles Times reports.
“The staggering rise in cases caught many off guard, with long lines at some testing facilities and worries about whether Thanksgiving will cause even more people to be infected.”
_________
There are serious concerns now in my own county about whether medical facilities may be inadequate for what is soon to come.
Well Reverend...
Both Illinois and California have solid Democratic leadership who are mandating everything and anything they can... There are no evil Republicans in those states undermining efforts to mandate draconian measures.
If these Draconian Democratic efforts are failing, perhaps it's time to give into the idea that your local politician cannot control Mother nature.
Or perhaps you can just just remain delusional in your idea that somehow this is not Mother Nature who has released the virus and allowed it to run rampant in your state... but that it's all the fault of things the "bad orange man" said back in February. As if the "bad orange man" is all controlling of everything.
The elections over, Reverend... you can stop pretending for politics sake.
If these Draconian Democratic efforts are failing,
Gee Lil Schitty......your argument and opinions are both weak and stupid.....!!!!! Funny how some R states like Ohio, ND and Iowa have come around to the side of caution....Your dumb ass mask study you so proudly posted yesterday has more holes in it than your fat head!!!!!!! Please....go out and mingle in a crowd without a mask.....it is your life and you are entitled to be as stupid as you want in spite of what being said.....I personally don't care what you do as long as you do it to yourself.....very sad what a pile of human garbage you have become for trump!!!!!
The elections over, Reverend.
So are you ever going to admit Biden won??????? BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!
Biden, policies and apponties take center stage.
So far he has taken this moment to further radicalize the Socialist Democrats of America Party.
I want him to be true to his promises.
CHT , don't forget Michigan, where Gov. Bruce Jenner is killing jobs, causing rampid poverty and while sale collapse.
"Both Illinois and California have solid Democratic leadership who are mandating everything and anything they can... There are no evil Republicans in those states undermining efforts to mandate draconian measures.
If these Draconian Democratic efforts are failing, perhaps it's time to give into the idea that your local politician cannot control Mother nature."
Look at what is happening in Republican states that have resisted lock downs and mask wearing and social distancing.
For some reason, Ch has stopped giving us the statistics.
Hi, James , I trust you are well.
After all you follow some of the CDC guidelines.
Gee.....James....I thought it was beyond Lil Schitty's bias to make the virus a red blue issue.....since the virus does not discriminate by race, creed or color!!!! However, it suits. Lil Schitty's inability to make a cogent argument any more and chooses the simplistic blame game the GOP is famous for!!!!!!!
We just had a national election to select new leadership.
If there ever was a time when we as a people need to begin to unite around that new leadership in facing the immense problems confronting us, especially this pandemic, it is now.
In trying to prevent that, Trump will go down in history even more as the most unbelievably perverse president we have ever had.
Illinois Leading Cause of death.
"Leading Cause of Death Heart Disease
who wants to be the one to tell canyon cunt Trump's already doing this?
Kamala Harris
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the movie "Idiocracy" has become the prequel to the slow joe an da ho presidency.
LOL.
"unite" sure
As President Biden has promised to jerk the wheel harder left then the Radical Ibimbo.
What policies of Joe's , do you see us uniting behind?
Free Farms/Ranches for Blacks ?
If there ever was a time when we as a people need to begin to unite around that new leadership in facing the immense problems confronting us, especially this pandemic, it is now.
never.
i will wish the absolute worst upon this new administration every single fucking day.
i tend to treat thieves like the pieces of shit that they are.
WOULD BE DICTATOR
Trump Tries to Drum Out GOP Elections Officials
11:58 am EST
“President Trump has driven senators into retirement and tweeted wayward Republicans into primary defeat during four years leading the GOP.
"Now, as a lame duck, he’s launched a new campaign against GOP election officials who won’t bend to his will,” Politico reports.
"Trump’s drive to discredit the results of an election he lost has put him at odds with the Republican elected officials and administrators who oversaw the vote in key states — and called it what it was: a free and fair election.
"Being at odds with Trump doesn’t go over well in today’s Republican Party, and Trump has turned their political bases against them, even unleashing threats from his most rabid supporters."
Quote of the Day
11:56 am EST
“The founders would be absolutely horrified because this is what they always worried about.”
— Presidential historian Michael Beschloss, in an i interview with NPR, on President Trump’s efforts to subvert the vote.
Yesterday , with the assistance of my hard working wife, we put up two cords of red oak for home heating for 2023-2024 heating season. All snug in the wood barn.
This sinister "Great Reset" stuff suggests we really might be approaching the "end of history" this time - not with the worldwide acceptance of classical liberalism, but with its decisive rejection in favor of "soft" and "limited" authoritarianism.
The new consensus spreading among Western political elites is that some issues must be taken off the table, placed beyond the reach of voters, "settled" - and thus enforced - by power that cannot be subordinated to democracy.
In other words, the list of things "free people" don't get to vote against or refuse to accept grows longer. The size and power of centralized government swells to a scale undreamed-of by the founders of a constitutional republic. Very little of it can be voted out of office.
This is all supposedly justified in the name of protecting what remains of democracy, and sanding the rough edges off of capitalism. The elites tell themselves they aren't really authoritarians - they're just helping "true" liberty flourish by limiting and nourishing it.
The people cannot be allowed to make choices that would interfere with the government-provided "rights" of others - in other words, the socialized goods and services everyone is "entitled" to. People must be made "free" from want, from insult, even from the need to work.
Whatever remains of free society after those authoritarian boundaries are drawn will become the new playground sandbox of liberty - smaller, but safer and more comfortable. All that is not steel will be velvet. All that is not demanded will be provided.
The elite will find just the right amount of authoritarian control to protect The People. You'll still be allowed to own some capital, provided you use it the "right" way. You can be ambitious, but not greedy. You can speak sort-of freely, but only about approved topics.
This is now the great illusion of the 21st Century, brought into focus by the coronavirus pandemic, which will be employed to kill classical liberalism by supposedly "proving" that the most important challenges can only be tackled with authoritarian control.
The delusion will be that authoritarianism can be tamed and harnessed to protect "free" societies. Authoritarianism will become the sleek scientific, industrial, and moral engine that pulls free people into the new century and beyond.
https://twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1329875309995454464
RRB, the standard of "unity" was presented to the US, by Obama/Biden/Hillary in 2016.
We shall conduct yourself using those standards.
Outstanding post RRB.
Look at what is happening in Republican states that have resisted lock downs and mask wearing and social distancing. For some reason, Ch has stopped giving us the statistics.
As of yesterday, Democratic run states still held a 805/million to 740/million gap, and with Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota all competing with South Dakota, North Dakota, Indiana, Wyoming and Utah... the upper midwest great lakes problem is not going to help that number for your Democratic states.
Only really Ohio, Indiana, and Iowa is Republican in those areas.
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RRB, the standard of "unity" was presented to the US, by Obama/Biden/Hillary in 2016.
the hypocrisy is without end.
every asshole calling for unity and healing was part of the resistance that NEVER accepted the outcome of the 2016 election, and some went so far as to stage a fucking coup.
and now they want everyone to coalesce around a pair of fucking scumbags who stole this election?
no fucking way.
never.
third world shithole dictatorships pull this shit.
if you're a democrat you are my sworn mortal enemy.
Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449
Does anyone believe a partisan blogger over The Mayo Clinic in Minnesota, one of the best clinics on the earth?
Sorry Roger...
I believe 200,000 new cases and 2000 new deaths... over an opinion that masks are working really really well!
So unless you want to argue that 200,000 new cases and 2000 new deaths are a good number proving the effectiveness of masks, I think you should stop pointing to "opinions".
It’s official; Barack Obama displaced Jimmy Carter as the worst president in the history of the USA. The determination was made by the esteemed historian Thomas Sowell.
Major reasons include Obama’s role in undermining the healthcare industry, his irresponsible immigration stance, his corrosive race-baiting that set the stage for the tsunami of Black Lives Matter riots, his push toward a fascist-style economic system, his facilitation of Iran’s nuclear weapons program, and his pernicious (not to mention astonishingly hypocritical) Marxist rhetoric:
https://moonbattery.com/thomas-sowell-names-worst-american-president/
Does anyone believe a partisan blogger over The Mayo Clinic in Minnesota, one of the best clinics on the earth?
i believe common sense, alky. i make up my own mind based upon the facts in evidence.
the more draconian and severe the mask mandate and lockdown, the greater the cases and deaths.
what mayo posted was not a peer-reviewed study.
it's their fucking OPINION.
my governor murdered over ten thousand seniors with his imbecilic nursing home policy.
and now he's being awarded a fucking emmy.
you're side of this debate lost their fucking minds MONTHS ago.
The major reason why the blue states have a higher rate of infections, is because they have the most densely populated cities in the country.
Highly densely populations are causing the higher per capita infection rates. Close contact is dangerous. The President has made masking political, and has committed involuntary homicide.
oh, and if the mayo clinic would like to be taken seriously, dropping any reference to the WHO would be helpful.
the WHO is bought and paid for by the chi-coms.
rrb is an irrelevant troll
The President has made masking political, and has committed involuntary homicide.
really?
then let's award him a fucking emmy!
LOL.
alky, you're almost too fucking stupid to insult anymore. seriously.
Trump's a murderer in your eyes because he didn't instigate a nationwide panic.
that's stupid on fucking stilts AND steroids.
CHT just played kick an Alky.
"So unless you want to argue that 200,000 new cases and 2000 new deaths are a good number proving the effectiveness of masks, I think you should stop pointing to "opinions".
The President has made masking political
Sure Rog...
200,000 cases and 2000 deaths because of what the "bad orange man" has said???? You don't see the idiocy in that, because you are too far gone with TDS.
Here is the reality, Texas has had a mask mandate since July. California has had a mask mandate since June. Illinois has had one in place since August. Michigan has the most draconian shut down and mandate measures in the country.
Those are your top four states from yesterday's 200,000 cases Rog!
Please explain how the "bad orange man" has promoted such medical carnage when all of those states are all wearing masks?
James and Alky call for "unity", but look how they act.
James and Alky call for "unity", but look how they act.
the angriest person you'll ever meet is a democrat who just won an election.
What Criminal State Code is Roger quoting "involuntary homicide"?
Not California, nor Kansas.
"the angriest person you'll ever meet is a democrat who just won an election."
Given the Three Socialist melt down here, that is 💯 true.
Sorry to introduce something else into this thread, but this from the next thread is interesting:
JamesNewLeaf said:
Historians will NOT record this election as having been stolen.
CH said:
Just as they did "NOT" record the 2016 as being stolen by the Russians. But just as Trump spent 4 years being dissed by Democrats claiming he was illegitimate, the same will be said about Joe Biden by conservatives.
When even 30% of your own Party believes Democratic poll workers and vote counters likely cheated to make sure Biden won... there is going to be a problem.
A problem that could be solved by a little bit of transparency and just a little bit of effort in avoiding suspicious behavior. If there was nothing to hide, then why did so many of these counties work sooooooo hard to prevent legal poll watchers from actually watching?
Moreover Reverend... why are the counties attempting to block or remove poll watchers from watching (as the law provides) always run by Democrats?
If you can give me ONE good reason why someone wants to do this sort of work without any supervision or anyone watching... then please provide it. Because so far, nobody has provided a reasonable explanation what-so-ever.
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November 21, 2020 at 11:10 AM
JamesNewLeaf responded:
Ch, would you please give us any evidence you have as to which court has agreed with the accusation that poll watchers were blocked.
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JamesNewLeaf later added:
While readers are waiting, they might want to look at this:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/12/donald-trump/trumps-wrong-claim-election-observers-were-barred-/
"but this from the next thread" James
You mean from the prior Thread, not "next".
sorry pederast.
i don't read politi-hack.
shove it up your child molesting ass.
What Criminal State Code is Roger quoting "involuntary homicide"?
there's no such thing. "involuntary homicide" doesn't exist.
that's the alky for ya.
LOL.
Roger is a very smart guy, just ask him.
In reality his personal life is a burning dumpster full of tires.
The major reason why the blue states have a higher rate of infections, is because they have the most densely populated cities in the country.
Highly densely populations are causing the higher per capita infection rates. Close contact is dangerous. Even if they are wearing masks.
Plus people choose to refuse to believe the scientists over the lame duck President have refused to wear masks in blue states has caused medical carnage.
I don't use Orange Monster, you do.
addition to 11:42
C.H. Truth said...
Sorry James...
There was actual video posted online of poll watchers being removed, poll watchers being placed 25' away, poll watchers not being allowed in.
There was a viral video where one precinct removed the last remaining Republican poll watcher for "not properly wearing his mask" and the poll workers broke out in applause.
There were court cases where Judges had to order precincts to allow the poll watchers in.
So with all due respect to "polifact" (which is none) - you're full of shit and once again simply refuse to EVER address anything. You just deny things in plain sight, like every liberal does..
So this is why I rarely bother to engage in these threads anymore. It's just so pathetic.
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To which I, James, replied,
Well, Ch, it looks like you are forced to admit that some of the claims that poll watchers were not allowed to watch are bogus.
"Pants on Fire" bogus, as a matter of fact.
Seems to me, if true, and widely true, the results of the election could be overthrown.
Why is it that Trump's supporters are having so little success in the courts?
And why are local election officials, both Democratic and Republican, so indignantly angered by accusations that they did not run fair elections when they made every attempt to do so?
You can make all kinds of ridiculous charges (just look at Giuliani and Powell) but proof is needed, evidence that holds up in court.
Yours doesn't.
Involuntary manslaughter is defined as an unintentional killing that results either from criminal negligence or the commission of a low-level criminal act such as a misdemeanor. Involuntary manslaughter is distinguished from other forms of homicide because it does not require deliberation or premeditation, or intent.
https://www.justia.com/criminal/offenses/homicide/involuntary-manslaughter/
There are zero medical experts who agree with Scott a*****e
On day one of the President's inauguration, we will rejoin the WHO.
What Criminal State Code is Roger quoting "involuntary homicide"?
Nice you admitted you fucked up, again.
Ignore.
Biden will make the US the world piggy bank, again.
Are the soup kitchens that serve hundreds of people closed?
Ignored
Whack job lame duck President.
QAnon. Described by the FBI as a new domestic terror threat, this cult believes Trump is locked in a struggle with a cabal of Satan-worshipping, Democratic Party-supporting pedophiles. Yet the president has repeatedly refused to condemn QAnon, saying that “these are people that love our country” and “I do know they are very much against pedophilia, they fight it very hard.”
Scott said red states are great news robotics.
Here’s a state-by-state rundown of the riskiest states to visit as we head into Thanksgiving, along with an overview of current Covid-19 protocols.
1) North Dakota
Last week: No. 2
Risk factors: New statewide mask mandate - 203.6 new daily cases per 100,000 people - 14.8% of Covid tests are positive
Last week, North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum, a Republican, finally announced a month-long statewide mask mandate. Masks must be worn in indoor businesses and public spaces and outside in public spaces when social distancing is impossible. Burgum’s critics say the governor has waited too long to address the crisis.
Yesterday, Burgum said that he reversed his opposition to a statewide mask policy in response to the state’s hospital capacity and staffing crisis. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is sending 60 air force nurses to North Dakota hospitals to assist with the Covid-19 response next week.
North Dakota is racking up an average of 203.6 new daily Covid-19 cases per 100,000 people, on a rolling weekly average, according to the Harvard-Brown risk-assessment tool. That’s up 44% since last week. Any state with over 25 new daily cases per 100,000 people is colored red on the map, which means it is considered “at a tipping point.” North Dakota’s risk level is more than 700% above that threshold.
North Dakota’s percent positive rate is 14.8%, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. The percent positive should ideally be under 5%, according the World Health Organization. Positivity has been rising for the past two consecutive weeks.
2) South Dakota
Last week: No. 1
Risk factors: No statewide mask mandate - 145.8 new daily cases per 100,000 people - 48.2% of Covid tests are positive
South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, a Republican, has been so defiantly anti-mask that she’s earned the unfortunate nickname of “Covid Kristi.” Her state was the epicenter of Covid-19 spread for several weeks until it was recently surpassed by North Dakota.
In her first news conference in months to address the pandemic, Noem said last week that those who don’t wear masks are making a “personal decision” and deserve respect. Meanwhile, several South Dakota cities have imposed their own mask requirements.
This week, the Mount Rushmore State is recording a 145.8 new Covid-19 cases per 100,000 people, on a rolling weekly average. That’s down slightly from last week but still 483% above the “tipping point” threshold.
South Dakota’s percent positive rate is 48.2%, the third highest in the country. Nearly half of all Covid tests come back positive. The percent positivity has risen in South Dakota for the past two consecutive weeks, which suggests that the state is not close to getting the virus under control.
Noem is a cultist
ignored
Roger Amick said...
Noem is a cultist
it's called Freedom & Liberty, alky.
you wouldn't understand.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
On day one of the President's inauguration, we will rejoin the WHO.
of course we will alky.
and the list of stupid fucking things this drooling, diaper-wearing, dementia patient and his skank sidekick are going to do is fucking endless.
we get to be the world's bitch again.
and the radical moose-limbs are getting ready to party like it's 09/11/2001.
yay.
Ignored
Like Trump said they danced on the streets of New Jersey?
It was one of his 25,000 lies
Scott you should have surrendered and open up a real topic page
South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, a Republican, has been so defiantly anti-mask that she’s earned the unfortunate nickname of “Covid Kristi.” Her state was the epicenter of Covid-19 spread for several weeks until it was recently surpassed by North Dakota.
Alky and Jane , expose the mind of the closed minded Socialist.
Myopic Dystopia.
Even Barr isn't going to help him steal the election.
The Justice Department has met President Trump’s fantastical claims of widespread voter fraud with two weeks of skeptical silence, not taking any overt moves to investigate what Trump’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, claims is a globe-spanning conspiracy to steal the election.
Such deafening silence from one of the government’s main enforcers of election law indicates just how little evidence there is to support the wild, wide-ranging claims made by Trump and his supporters, most notably Giuliani in a Thursday news conference held inside the Republican National Committee headquarters.
Privately, Justice Department officials have said they are willing to investigate legitimate claims of vote fraud; Attorney General William P. Barr even loosened some restrictions that might otherwise have discouraged prosecutors from doing so before results are certified.
[As defeats pile up, Trump tries to delay vote count]
But current and former officials said they thought Giuliani’s accusations sounded “crazy,” and they have not seen or heard of any evidence suggesting large-scale fraud, let alone the kind of intercontinental conspiracy described by the president’s lawyer. Like others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a politically sensitive matter.
A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.
Trump must be afraid to fire Barr.
So did Trump really believe Giuliani's and Sydney Powell's nonsense and think it would lead to a chain reaction that would sweep him into power? Did he really believe that?
I find it difficult to believe he did.
WHOA. THIS JUST IN.
GOP Leaders Ask Michigan to Delay Certification
4:39 pm EST
“The heads of the Republican National Committee and Michigan Republican Party issued a joint statement Saturday calling for Michigan’s state canvassing board to delay certification of the results of the election, marking the latest attempt by party leaders to intervene in the state’s electoral process,” the Washington Post reports.
“In the letter — signed by RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, who is from Michigan, and state GOP Chair Laura Cox — the officials ask the canvassing board to adjourn for 14 days and allow for a ‘full audit and investigation’ before they convene to certify the state’s election results, a procedural step that is set to take place on Monday afternoon.”
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What the hell?
find it difficult to believe he did.
What is difficult to believe is the amount of people who still believe in trump....He is mad and his playing golf while america burns clearly sends the message he don't give a fuck about anything but golf!!!!! He is a sick dangerous mad man with thousands of cultists following him....the newest Jim Jones!!!!!!
3:48 is the latest little wrinkle in this.
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