Texas announced on Tuesday that it would be filing a lawsuit in the Supreme Court against four battleground states in an effort to halt presidential electors from finalizing President-elect Joe Biden's victory.
Texas argued that electors from Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin should not be allowed to cast their votes in part because those states unconstitutionally changed their voting procedures during the coronavirus pandemic to allow for increased mail-in ballots. Biden won all four states.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) alleges that the new voting processes in the battleground states skewed the 2020 election results and asked the Supreme Court to delay next Monday's deadline for the Electoral College to make Biden's victory official.
"Their failure to abide by the rule of law casts a dark shadow of doubt over the outcome of the entire election," Paxton said in a statement. "We now ask that the Supreme Court step in to correct this egregious error."
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Since the day of the electoral college vote date is in the Constitution, and there is no evidence of fraud in the three states, I think the Supreme Court, even with a conservative majority, is unlikely to allow the lame duck President to conduct a coup.
The Trump campaign is falsely claiming that surveillance camera footage captured election workers in Georgia adding thousands of illegal ballots that were brought into an Atlanta facility in suspicious “suitcases” on election night.
The campaign presented the video to Georgia state lawmakers on Dec. 3. President Donald Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, wrote on Twitter the same day: “The video tape doesn’t lie. Fulton County Democrats stole the election. It’s now beyond doubt.” Trump himself later amplified the claim at a rally in Georgia on Dec. 5.
But state officials told us that the full video shows the supposed “suitcases” were actually standard containers used to secure ballots, and that the ballots in question were opened and prepared for counting earlier in the night in full view of observers. They said the campaign presented limited, selective parts of the footage.
That’s based on their review of the day’s video footage in full. Also, even though observers from the parties and press left the room before vote counting resumed, officials said, a state election board monitor and investigator from the secretary of state’s office both returned to watch the counting until its completion.
Left unclear, though, are the exact facts surrounding a purported “announcement” to workers in the room that Republican observers claim prompted them to leave, as we’ll explain.
No ‘Suitcases’ in Video
The video in question — which has been widely shared across social media — was presented to Georgia state legislators during the Dec. 3 hearing by a lawyer named Jacki Pick, who said she was volunteering for Trump’s legal team. Pick is listed as a lawyer by the State Bar of Texas, but she appears to work primarily as a conservative podcast host. She and her husband, Doug Deason, are major Republican donors.
Pick said Trump’s legal team received the video the night before and that it shows observers and the press leaving a room at Atlanta’s State Farm Arena, which was used to count absentee and military ballots, shortly before 11 p.m. She claimed that, according to witnesses, a woman had told the observers and press that “we’re going to stop counting, everyone go home.”
She pointed out that many of the elections workers had left for the night in the video, but four workers are seen in the video staying behind to continue counting.
“Once everyone is gone, coast is clear, they are going to pull ballots out from underneath a table – watch this table,” she said at the hearing. “I saw four suitcases come out from underneath the table.” The video shows the counting continued until nearly 1 a.m., she said.
But the supposed “suitcases” were typical ballot containers used to secure ballots, Georgia’s Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs told us in a phone interview. Likewise, Matthew Mashburn, the state Senate’s appointee to the state election board, told us the video showed “standard secure containers that are ubiquitous in tabulation in Georgia.”
And Gabriel Sterling, the state’s voting system implementation manager, said that the full video showed that the containers were carrying ballots that were opened and processed earlier in the night. They weren’t suspicious ballots brought surreptitiously into the building, or ballots that were opened in secret.
“They were put in there about an hour earlier,” Sterling, a Republican, said by phone. He said of the Trump campaign: “They watched the same video tape.”
Sterling also said he saw no anomalies in the vote data that suggested any kind of mass voter fraud, as has been alleged. “These are just regular elections workers” doing their job, he said.
While state law allows for observers to watch the vote counting, Sterling said, it was not illegal for the vote counting to resume when the observers left. He said his office was working on making the video footage from the arena public so that voters could see the footage with more context.
Observers’ Departure
What is clear from our interviews with state officials is that, at some point, the elections workers did evidently plan to stop counting votes.
Fulton County Elections Director Rick Barron also made that clear during a special, virtual public meeting on Dec. 4. He said that “certain staff that were on the cutting stations, that were on the flattening stations, that were extracting from the inner envelopes, those staff left as work completed.”
“I found out sometime, I think a little after 10:30 [p.m.], that they were gonna cease operations and I told them not to do that,” he said. He added that at “about 11:15 [p.m.], they were fully scanning again.”
Pick claimed that witnesses said that a woman came “out to announce, ‘we’re going to stop counting, everyone go home,'” saying the Republican observers were “forced to leave.” But Barron said that “no announcement was ever made to leave, for anyone to leave.”
Affidavits from two Republican field organizers referenced by Pick do not claim that they or the media were ever directly told or forced to leave. Instead, the observers say that they left after a woman — who they believed was a supervisor — “yelled” to workers in the room to cease operations and return the next day. The affidavits say that much of the room, except for a few employees, had cleared out.
“We have launched an investigation into why the monitors from the political parties left before scanning ended,” the secretary of state’s office said in a statement. “While it was their right to leave early, we want to make certain they were not misled into thinking scanning had stopped for the night when it had not. Nothing we have learned from the independent monitor or our investigation have suggested any improper ballots were scanned.”
Sterling said in our Dec. 4 interview with him that it did not appear there was any official announcement made to the observers or press, but there’s no audio to prove that one way or another.
On Dec. 5, Frances Watson, the chief investigator for the secretary of state’s office, said in an affidavit that after reviewing the video and conducting interviews, her investigators found “that observers and media were not asked to leave” but “simply left” after they saw workers, whose job was to open the ballots, leave. She said the investigation remains open.
Also, there’s no evidence that a “water main break” inside the arena earlier that day had anything to do with the observers and press leaving, as some have claimed.
One of Trump’s sons, Eric Trump, wrote on Facebook that “Republican observers were cleared out of State Farm Arena due to a ‘water main break’, but 4 people stayed behind, rolled out suitcases of ballots, & continue to count ballots in private from around 1030PM until 1AM.”
But the water leak occurred at 6:07 a.m. on Election Day, according to the arena, and it was fixed within two hours — meaning it occurred long before the episode in question.
Debunked Ballot Figures
During the legislative hearing, Pick maintained that the votes counted in the room after observers left could have been enough to change the presidential election results in Georgia.
Pick theorized that the machines in the room could have totaled “18,000 ballots.” (Biden won the state by less than 12,000 votes.)
But that’s wrong, according to the state election board monitor who was in the room as they counted.
The monitor — who agreed to be interviewed on the condition of not being named due to death threats faced by election workers — told us he was in the room until about 8:15 p.m., when he left, and returned at 11:52 p.m.
Fuchs, the deputy secretary of state, told us the monitor was not required to be there at all times, but she instructed him to return after hearing from news outlets that the county was going to cease counting for the night.
The monitor arrived at 11:52 p.m. — after the observers left shortly before 11 p.m. — and stayed until the counting ceased at 12:43 a.m.
Between 8:15 p.m. and 12:43 a.m., the change in total ballots went from 89,381 ballots to 99,133 ballots — so a difference of 9,752 votes — he said. And, again, that’s over the course of more than four hours, not just the time after observers and media left.
The footage is not the first to spark claims of fraud in Georgia. We also wrote about a video showing an election worker conducting an ordinary part of the recount process in Gwinnett County that prompted false claims. The videos have been part of a surge of falsehoods aimed at undermining the results of the 2020 election, as we’ve reported.
Saranac Hale Spencer contributed to this report.
Update, Dec. 7: We made updates to this story to reflect new information — including the affidavits from the Republican field organizers and statements from the chief investigator for the secretary of state’s office — pertaining to why the observers and media left the room in State Farm Arena.
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Scott asshole the video doesn't show anything like you claim.
But state officials told us that the full video shows
Sure... and these are the same state officials who (prior to the surveillance tape being released) denied that there was any ballot counting done without poll watchers.
So they get caught in one blatant lie and then we are all supposed to trust what they say now?
Who is "that" gullible?
Let us... for sake of argument... accept that the boxes under the one table that just happened to be next in line for the poll workers that just happened to correspond to when everyone else had left... were just that. Boxes that were placed under a table (not to hide but) because they had no other place to put them.
Still doesn't explain why the same poll worker is running the same ballots through the counting machine multiple times?
This is what is known as fact checking "red herring". The real issue isn't whether or not the ballots under the table were in "suitcases" or "actual ballot boxes".
The only real questions here are
Why did these poll workers stay behind when everyone expected them to leave? Why did they originally deny that they counted without the poll watchers? Why (even now) are they demanding that the poll watchers were never told to leave (when both the media and the Elections division of the Georgia SOS reported that counting was done in Fulton at exactly that time)?
The only thing that they can really "debunk" is whether or not the ballot boxes are "suitcases" or "normal ballot boxes".
If the portions of the tape that show what they claim is out there, I would like to see them. At this point, all I have been shown are these videos of what happened after everyone left. If these other portions of the video are out there... can you post them here?
Scott does keep DESPERATELY reaching for straws, doesn't he?
So Reverend... originally you were suspicious of this tape as well, as it does appear to back up everything the sworn affidavits claim.
Which is that they were told to go home (as was reported by everyone "other" than the four people who stayed behind). This was reported by election officials on that night. The media reported it on that night. The media who was there stated it on that night. The poll watchers who were there on that night provided sworn affidavits.
But true to form... you are "told" something different.
And like a good little sheeple... you believe it without asking for any evidence to back any of it up. Suddenly, the tape in question is a big lie.
No actual evidence that it was a lie. Just some explanation by Democrats who never, ever lie to you, huh?
It's as if you now believe that the guy with the Barbie doll stuck up his ass really did slip on a wet spot getting out of the shower.
That singular scene — of workers taking out suitcases of votes — was then selectively edited and shared by allies of President Trump as a conspiracy theory that election workers had dragged out fraudulent ballots under the cover of night. According to the theory, those suitcases helped swing Georgia’s Electoral College votes to President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.
But on Monday, Georgia’s Republican secretary of state office dedicated part of a morning news conference to debunking that falsehood and many others, in what was called “Disinformation Monday.” Gabriel Sterling, the voting implementation manager in Georgia and a Republican, said in the news conference that watching the entire surveillance footage of Election Day showed that workers had first packed the suitcases with valid, uncounted ballots and then later unpacked those same ballots. They had not taken out suitcases full of fake ballots, he said.
That singular scene — of workers taking out suitcases of votes — was then selectively edited and shared by allies of President Trump as a conspiracy theory that election workers had dragged out fraudulent ballots under the cover of night. According to the theory, those suitcases helped swing Georgia’s Electoral College votes to President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.
But on Monday, Georgia’s Republican secretary of state office dedicated part of a morning news conference to debunking that falsehood and many others, in what was called “Disinformation Monday.” Gabriel Sterling, the voting implementation manager in Georgia and a Republican, said in the news conference that watching the entire surveillance footage of Election Day showed that workers had first packed the suitcases with valid, uncounted ballots and then later unpacked those same ballots. They had not taken out suitcases full of fake ballots.
It seems to me, Scott, (Ch) that you are absolutely determined to see in this tape something that apparently does not hold up to examination, and you will let no amount of actual evidence deter you from that conclusion.
Hasn't it been debunked by Republicans as well as by Democrats who were familiar with what really happened?
This isn't about whether or not things can be explained after the fact or not. The fact that the "Secretary of State" is an elected Republican has no bearing on the employees down the line or anything else.
My issue isn't about suitcases or boxes or whether or not someone has "verified that the boxes were otherwise processed" or what not.
That is still red herring and complete red herring.
The only questions are whether or not the poll watchers were mislead into going home and why they originally denied that any ballot counters worked without the normal observers. Even the so called "Election observer" that they claimed was there, was only there for "some" of the time.
They lied, Roger about this... plain and simple.
Then you see (on video) the same set of ballots being run through a scanner multiple times. Not to mention that whatever did take place previously with those ballot boxes... as pointed out by others (who have watched the whole tape as well). Those boxes had been isolated from the others. There is no good explanation as to why.
I am a natural skeptic and a natural cynic. I don't tend to "believe" people at their word when it comes to these sorts of things. I don't accept much of the numbers I hear (on both sides, because there is as much disinformation coming from the right as the left). I double check the numbers myself and do my own research.
So as Steve Martin used to say.... Well Exccccccuuuuuuuseeeee me if I am not willing to take people (who previously lied to us) at their word on this.
Perhaps there are other reasons (than they wanted to cheat) that they wanted to count ballots in private. There is no evidence at this point that they outwardly "cheated". But there is a lot of evidence that they were dishonest and are still being dishonest... I want to know why. As should you.
Oh, and I "still" want to know why this women was cycling through the same ballots multiple times.
Hasn't it been debunked by Republicans as well as by Democrats who were familiar with what really happened?
Nope. It has not been "debunked".
Unless you actually "believe" that the observing media and poll watchers went home on their own accord because they "misunderstood" what was being said.
This is simple Reverend.
- The fact that the ballot boxes were not suitcases is red herring - The fact that it isn't technically illegal to count without watchers is red herring - The fact that the boxes of ballots were said to have already been checked is red herring
They are "debunking" implications and allegations of what I am not suggesting.
But they have not "debunked" that four poll counters were counting ballots unsupervised and they have not "debunked" the claims that those who were supposed to be watching them were told to go home.
But they have not "debunked" that four poll counters were counting ballots unsupervised and they have not "debunked" the claims that those who were supposed to be watching them were told to go home.
You have no evidence that the unsupervised ballot counters counted the same ballots over and over again.
If they did that they would be charged with crimes. The Republican Secretary of State would be obligated to investigate and indict them.
You double check the numbers until they fit into my opinion.
The altered video shows a women was cycling through the same ballots multiple times.
LOL. you clowns are scared shitless you might just get to find out what works in a court of law. and you have no evidence - only claims - that the video was altered or edited.
you guys pull this shit every time. whether it's project veritas or the planned parenthood videos, you always claim, without proof that they've been altered or edited.
Your claims lack evidence beyond speculation from election-worker witnesses and flawed analysis from experts who filed sworn affidavits.
There were ballot counters running ballots through scanners unsupervised.
That is a fact. Not in dispute.
What is "speculation" is the various explanations as to why.
You can choose to believe literally "everyone" other than the ballot counters, then you will believe that everyone was sent home because they were told that they were done counting. This is consistent with media and SOS Election official statements from that time period that also stated that Fulton county was suspending counting for the night.
Or you can choose to believe that everyone else was lying, that the media reports were wrong, and that the Secretary of State Election division had their head up their ass... and choose then to believe the same ballot counters working unsupervised provided the "real" explanation (that poll watchers and media observers were just confused and went home on their own).
But the fact remains that ballot counters counted ballots without supervision after everyone else had left.
There were ballot counters running ballots through scanners unsupervised.
And sending them through the counting machine several times as alleged is a crime.
The Secretary of State of Georgia must be part of the deep state conspiracy to defeat the Orange Monster in what passes through what is left to your mind .
The Secretary of State of Georgia must be part of the deep state conspiracy to defeat the Orange Monster in what passes through what is left to your mind .
it's no conspiracy alky. Gabe Sterling is just an asshole and a hack. the GOP is full of them.
pappy mcstain was one. btw, is his funeral over yet?
The argument is that it is not a crime to count without watchers, just a crime to "not allow them" to watch. In this case, they are claiming (right, wrong, or whatever) that they did not technically "prevent" anyone from watching. That it was all a big "misunderstanding".
As for the counting being done multiple times, a little birdy has told many people in and around the media that the women in question is being questioned by certain people in authority. In fact, it is the rumor that "all" of the ballot counters in question will likely be talked to.
Maybe there is a reasonable explanation for why the same ballots would go through the same machine multiple times. At any rate, the fact that she isn't currently sitting in jail is once again "red herring" as people just don't go arresting people willy-nilly over these sorts of things.
Without claiming (without any evidence) for the umpteenth time that the tape was "doctored" - what is "your" explanation for why they went through multiple times?
He has every reason to defend everything in the process and has been said to have been bragging to anyone who would listen about how well their process went. Unlike many people who live and die with partisanship, sometimes people put themselves ahead of Party.
For Sterling to embrace election fraud and issues with how the counting went, would be akin to him admitting he did his job poorly and probably deserves to be fired. More to the point, when there are these kinds of allegations, then ultimately they are aimed at him.
I was having trouble sleeping again last night, Modern Philosophers.
It had been a long day, there was a lot on my mind, and I just couldn’t turn off my brain and make that final, much needed descent into Dreamland.
As I tossed and turned, my Deep Thoughts countered all the movement by going in an entirely different direction.
I don’t mind this sort of gray matter tangent because that is where great screenplay ideas are often found.
Rather than planting the seeds of my next great script, however, my brain gifted me with this crazy thought…
Is Donald Trump that big, hairy, orange monster that tried to eat Bugs Bunny!
I have no idea in what long forgotten crevice that memory had been hiding, but that hairy orange monster now stood at the podium of my mind and had all the other crazy thoughts’ full attention.
What was the monster’s name? Why did he want to eat Bugs? If we captured it and shaved it, would we find Donald Trump beneath all that hair?
It would certainly explain that weird growth on Trump’s head and his odd orange hue.
Take a look at them both side by side and judge for yourself…
The resemblance is uncanny, right? The only reason you can tell which one is Trump and which one is Gossamer (I had to Google the name because I couldn’t remember it for the life of me!) is because Bugs is in the photo with his monster.
Our monster is all by himself in the photo on the right.
As to which one is more scary, I think it’s still too early to tell. If Trump ever gets the nuclear launch codes, though, then the scale definitely tilts in his favor.
Both are larger than life orange cartoon characters with memorable hair, but I don’t remember Gossamer being able to speak. Now that I think about it, Future President Trump would be a hell of a lot less frightening (and dangerous!) if he were
Maybe those wascally wabbits know something about the Republicans’ golden/orange boy that voters do not.
Hopefully, if Trump turns out to be a freshly shaved Gossamer (and I’m guessing he will!), people will finally come to their senses and vote for someone else.
Then again, it’s been pretty obvious from the start that the man is a monster, and he won the Republican nomination by a landslide.
I think that says more about the state of the Republican Party than it does about voters’ love of monsters, but either way, it gives me brain cramps.
Are we about to hand over the keys to the White House (are there actually keys to the White House? If so, who has to carry them around all day?) to a Looney Tunes character? If so, what does that say about America? (aside from the fact that we watch too much TV!)
Why do these sort of Deep Thoughts have to haunt me after such a long day? I’ll never get any sleep now.
Thanks, Obama! This is all your fault for not figuring out how to stay in office for another term.
Not saying all Republican voters - obvs. But too many. Way too many. No false equivalency in the comments. Talk about the attempted coup or move on.
"What Republican voters think, or say they think, about who really won matters less than the fact that, as a consequence, they actively want their elected representatives to subvert our democracy and keep Trump in power illegitimately.
“Elections officials across the United States” have described a “tide of intimidation, harassment and outright threats.”
These actions do not reflect a mere belief about who won the election. They constitute a series of demands for active moves of one sort or another.
Their general thrust is that Republican legislators should appoint pro-Trump electors — in direct defiance of their own state laws stipulating that electors are chosen by popular vote. Or that Congress should reject legitimate electors. Or that Democratic officials should not certify the popular vote outcomes in their states."
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"Trump called the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives twice during the past week to make an extraordinary request for help reversing his loss in the state, reflecting a broadening pressure campaign by the president and his allies to try to subvert the 2020 election result.
The calls, confirmed by House Speaker Bryan Cutler’s office, make Pennsylvania the third state where Trump has directly attempted to overturn a result since he lost the election to former vice president Joe Biden. He previously reached out to Republicans in Michigan, and on Saturday he pressured Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) in a call to try to replace that state’s electors."
Judge Says Flynn Pardon Doesn’t Mean He’s Innocent
December 8, 2020 at 2:00 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 25 Comments
“A federal judge dismissed Michael Flynn’s prosecution Tuesday after President Trump’s pardon, but said the act of clemency does not mean the former national security adviser is innocent of lying to FBI agents about his talks with the Russian government before Trump took office,” the Washington Post reports.
“In formally ending Flynn’s three-year legal saga, U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan said he probably would have denied the Justice Department’s controversial effort this year to drop the case, which Democrats and many legal experts said appeared to be an attempt by Attorney General William Barr to bend the rule of law to help a Trump ally.”
Blogger C.H. Truth said... Gabe Sterling is in charge of elections...
He has every reason to defend everything in the process and has been said to have been
AND IS A PROUD TRUMP VOTER AND REPUBLICAN!!!!!! Now Lil Schitty embracing trumps attack on the Georgia leadership because he is a mindless follower of a tyrant he adores!!!!! Sad how much his mind has deteriorated in his zeal for authoritarian leadership of trump the LOSER!!!!!!
G.O.P.’s previous history of dealing with alternate reality gives, us a pretty good idea about when the party will accept Joe Biden as the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.
I wonder if Lil Schitty has an explanation why the GOP has turned into a group of flaming ass holes!!!!! The asshattery is running deep and strong!!!!!!! Simple astounding and juvenile....just like the fat assed leader!!!!!!!
Kathryn Krawczyk Tue, December 8, 2020, 1:17 PM EST
The presidential inaugural committee is reportedly refusing to acknowledge there will be a new president inaugurated next month.
The Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies is made up of top leaders of both congressional bodies — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) — as well as Sens. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.). They kicked off preparations Tuesday by considering a resolution basically acknowledging President-elect Joe Biden's win, but the committee's three Republicans voted it down, Politico reports.
So? Again... if something happened under his watch then it doesn't matter if he is a Republican or Democrat. His entire career as an election official (or anything in politics) is over.
So most people... if given the choice between losing their jobs and probably never working in their field again vs who is elected President over the next four years... will choose their personal issues.
That is not to say that this particular person has not totally vetted every aspect of everything. It's only to say that the Party he is associated with is irrelevant as to whether or not he would like to see the election he was responsible for be questioned over allegations of broken protocol and possible fraud.
So is the best your great mind can come up with????? The sad thing Lil Schitty is you miss the point that even as a trump supporter, he puts the law and country first while you suck on trumps fat white ass!!!!!!! His career is following the constitution and the law which seems beyond your ability to understand....VERY SAD!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! God you can be an ignorant slut for trump!!!!!!
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Yep.. you are a dangerous moron trying to rationalize a loser!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!
So in other words Denny...
You do not have a reasonable explanation. I figured as much!
Texas announced on Tuesday that it would be filing a lawsuit in the Supreme Court against four battleground states in an effort to halt presidential electors from finalizing President-elect Joe Biden's victory.
Texas argued that electors from Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin should not be allowed to cast their votes in part because those states unconstitutionally changed their voting procedures during the coronavirus pandemic to allow for increased mail-in ballots. Biden won all four states.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) alleges that the new voting processes in the battleground states skewed the 2020 election results and asked the Supreme Court to delay next Monday's deadline for the Electoral College to make Biden's victory official.
"Their failure to abide by the rule of law casts a dark shadow of doubt over the outcome of the entire election," Paxton said in a statement. "We now ask that the Supreme Court step in to correct this egregious error."
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Since the day of the electoral college vote date is in the Constitution, and there is no evidence of fraud in the three states, I think the Supreme Court, even with a conservative majority, is unlikely to allow the lame duck President to conduct a coup.
So in other words Denny...
You do not have a reasonable explanation
IOW's SO FUCKING WHAT!!!!!!!!!! It's fake video just like your intellect, Lil Schtiiy!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
The Trump campaign is falsely claiming that surveillance camera footage captured election workers in Georgia adding thousands of illegal ballots that were brought into an Atlanta facility in suspicious “suitcases” on election night.
The campaign presented the video to Georgia state lawmakers on Dec. 3. President Donald Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, wrote on Twitter the same day: “The video tape doesn’t lie. Fulton County Democrats stole the election. It’s now beyond doubt.” Trump himself later amplified the claim at a rally in Georgia on Dec. 5.
But state officials told us that the full video shows the supposed “suitcases” were actually standard containers used to secure ballots, and that the ballots in question were opened and prepared for counting earlier in the night in full view of observers. They said the campaign presented limited, selective parts of the footage.
That’s based on their review of the day’s video footage in full. Also, even though observers from the parties and press left the room before vote counting resumed, officials said, a state election board monitor and investigator from the secretary of state’s office both returned to watch the counting until its completion.
Left unclear, though, are the exact facts surrounding a purported “announcement” to workers in the room that Republican observers claim prompted them to leave, as we’ll explain.
No ‘Suitcases’ in Video
The video in question — which has been widely shared across social media — was presented to Georgia state legislators during the Dec. 3 hearing by a lawyer named Jacki Pick, who said she was volunteering for Trump’s legal team. Pick is listed as a lawyer by the State Bar of Texas, but she appears to work primarily as a conservative podcast host. She and her husband, Doug Deason, are major Republican donors.
Pick said Trump’s legal team received the video the night before and that it shows observers and the press leaving a room at Atlanta’s State Farm Arena, which was used to count absentee and military ballots, shortly before 11 p.m. She claimed that, according to witnesses, a woman had told the observers and press that “we’re going to stop counting, everyone go home.”
She pointed out that many of the elections workers had left for the night in the video, but four workers are seen in the video staying behind to continue counting.
“Once everyone is gone, coast is clear, they are going to pull ballots out from underneath a table – watch this table,” she said at the hearing. “I saw four suitcases come out from underneath the table.” The video shows the counting continued until nearly 1 a.m., she said.
But the supposed “suitcases” were typical ballot containers used to secure ballots, Georgia’s Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs told us in a phone interview. Likewise, Matthew Mashburn, the state Senate’s appointee to the state election board, told us the video showed “standard secure containers that are ubiquitous in tabulation in Georgia.”
And Gabriel Sterling, the state’s voting system implementation manager, said that the full video showed that the containers were carrying ballots that were opened and processed earlier in the night. They weren’t suspicious ballots brought surreptitiously into the building, or ballots that were opened in secret.
“They were put in there about an hour earlier,” Sterling, a Republican, said by phone. He said of the Trump campaign: “They watched the same video tape.”
Sterling also said he saw no anomalies in the vote data that suggested any kind of mass voter fraud, as has been alleged. “These are just regular elections workers” doing their job, he said.
BTW Lil Schitty....still waiting for your explanation of which GW is wrong and why!!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
While state law allows for observers to watch the vote counting, Sterling said, it was not illegal for the vote counting to resume when the observers left. He said his office was working on making the video footage from the arena public so that voters could see the footage with more context.
Observers’ Departure
What is clear from our interviews with state officials is that, at some point, the elections workers did evidently plan to stop counting votes.
Fulton County Elections Director Rick Barron also made that clear during a special, virtual public meeting on Dec. 4. He said that “certain staff that were on the cutting stations, that were on the flattening stations, that were extracting from the inner envelopes, those staff left as work completed.”
“I found out sometime, I think a little after 10:30 [p.m.], that they were gonna cease operations and I told them not to do that,” he said. He added that at “about 11:15 [p.m.], they were fully scanning again.”
Pick claimed that witnesses said that a woman came “out to announce, ‘we’re going to stop counting, everyone go home,'” saying the Republican observers were “forced to leave.” But Barron said that “no announcement was ever made to leave, for anyone to leave.”
Affidavits from two Republican field organizers referenced by Pick do not claim that they or the media were ever directly told or forced to leave. Instead, the observers say that they left after a woman — who they believed was a supervisor — “yelled” to workers in the room to cease operations and return the next day. The affidavits say that much of the room, except for a few employees, had cleared out.
“We have launched an investigation into why the monitors from the political parties left before scanning ended,” the secretary of state’s office said in a statement. “While it was their right to leave early, we want to make certain they were not misled into thinking scanning had stopped for the night when it had not. Nothing we have learned from the independent monitor or our investigation have suggested any improper ballots were scanned.”
Sterling said in our Dec. 4 interview with him that it did not appear there was any official announcement made to the observers or press, but there’s no audio to prove that one way or another.
On Dec. 5, Frances Watson, the chief investigator for the secretary of state’s office, said in an affidavit that after reviewing the video and conducting interviews, her investigators found “that observers and media were not asked to leave” but “simply left” after they saw workers, whose job was to open the ballots, leave. She said the investigation remains open.
Also, there’s no evidence that a “water main break” inside the arena earlier that day had anything to do with the observers and press leaving, as some have claimed.
One of Trump’s sons, Eric Trump, wrote on Facebook that “Republican observers were cleared out of State Farm Arena due to a ‘water main break’, but 4 people stayed behind, rolled out suitcases of ballots, & continue to count ballots in private from around 1030PM until 1AM.”
But the water leak occurred at 6:07 a.m. on Election Day, according to the arena, and it was fixed within two hours — meaning it occurred long before the episode in question.
Debunked Ballot Figures
During the legislative hearing, Pick maintained that the votes counted in the room after observers left could have been enough to change the presidential election results in Georgia.
Pick theorized that the machines in the room could have totaled “18,000 ballots.” (Biden won the state by less than 12,000 votes.)
But that’s wrong, according to the state election board monitor who was in the room as they counted.
The monitor — who agreed to be interviewed on the condition of not being named due to death threats faced by election workers — told us he was in the room until about 8:15 p.m., when he left, and returned at 11:52 p.m.
Fuchs, the deputy secretary of state, told us the monitor was not required to be there at all times, but she instructed him to return after hearing from news outlets that the county was going to cease counting for the night.
The monitor arrived at 11:52 p.m. — after the observers left shortly before 11 p.m. — and stayed until the counting ceased at 12:43 a.m.
Between 8:15 p.m. and 12:43 a.m., the change in total ballots went from 89,381 ballots to 99,133 ballots — so a difference of 9,752 votes — he said. And, again, that’s over the course of more than four hours, not just the time after observers and media left.
The footage is not the first to spark claims of fraud in Georgia. We also wrote about a video showing an election worker conducting an ordinary part of the recount process in Gwinnett County that prompted false claims. The videos have been part of a surge of falsehoods aimed at undermining the results of the 2020 election, as we’ve reported.
Saranac Hale Spencer contributed to this report.
Update, Dec. 7: We made updates to this story to reflect new information — including the affidavits from the Republican field organizers and statements from the chief investigator for the secretary of state’s office — pertaining to why the observers and media left the room in State Farm Arena.
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Scott asshole the video doesn't show anything like you claim.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/video-doesnt-show-suitcases-of-illegal-ballots-in-georgia/
Roger....Lil Schitty does not allow for facts to get in the way of protecting fat ass trump and his ineptitude!!!!!!!!!!!
Too bad all the local news say counting was supposed to stop Alky and restart Wednesday
Some ballots will not be counted until Wednesday in Georgia following water main break
Some ballots will not be counted until Wednesday in Fulton County
Fulton County stopped counting absentee ballots for the night
That fact-check article is a fucking lie
No, The Georgia Vote-Counting Video Was Not ‘Debunked.’ Not Even Close
A Big Tech-backed 'fact' 'checking' outfit claimed to debunk explosive evidence for Republicans' claims of significant election problems in Georgia. It didn't.
That fact-check article is a fucking lie
And you are a flaming asshole....!!!!!!!!
Mollie hemmingway's opinion is noted and is most amusing!!!!!!!!!
James, Scott will either disappear or call me alky and demented nursing home idiot.
The Federalist is a right wing nutcase websites
But state officials told us that the full video shows
Sure... and these are the same state officials who (prior to the surveillance tape being released) denied that there was any ballot counting done without poll watchers.
So they get caught in one blatant lie and then we are all supposed to trust what they say now?
Who is "that" gullible?
Let us... for sake of argument... accept that the boxes under the one table that just happened to be next in line for the poll workers that just happened to correspond to when everyone else had left... were just that. Boxes that were placed under a table (not to hide but) because they had no other place to put them.
Still doesn't explain why the same poll worker is running the same ballots through the counting machine multiple times?
Scott does keep DESPERATELY reaching for straws, doesn't he?
To be clear here Roger...
This is what is known as fact checking "red herring". The real issue isn't whether or not the ballots under the table were in "suitcases" or "actual ballot boxes".
The only real questions here are
Why did these poll workers stay behind when everyone expected them to leave?
Why did they originally deny that they counted without the poll watchers?
Why (even now) are they demanding that the poll watchers were never told to leave (when both the media and the Elections division of the Georgia SOS reported that counting was done in Fulton at exactly that time)?
The only thing that they can really "debunk" is whether or not the ballot boxes are "suitcases" or "normal ballot boxes".
If the portions of the tape that show what they claim is out there, I would like to see them. At this point, all I have been shown are these videos of what happened after everyone left. If these other portions of the video are out there... can you post them here?
Scott does keep DESPERATELY reaching for straws, doesn't he?
So Reverend... originally you were suspicious of this tape as well, as it does appear to back up everything the sworn affidavits claim.
Which is that they were told to go home (as was reported by everyone "other" than the four people who stayed behind). This was reported by election officials on that night. The media reported it on that night. The media who was there stated it on that night. The poll watchers who were there on that night provided sworn affidavits.
But true to form... you are "told" something different.
And like a good little sheeple... you believe it without asking for any evidence to back any of it up. Suddenly, the tape in question is a big lie.
No actual evidence that it was a lie. Just some explanation by Democrats who never, ever lie to you, huh?
It's as if you now believe that the guy with the Barbie doll stuck up his ass really did slip on a wet spot getting out of the shower.
That singular scene — of workers taking out suitcases of votes — was then selectively edited and shared by allies of President Trump as a conspiracy theory that election workers had dragged out fraudulent ballots under the cover of night. According to the theory, those suitcases helped swing Georgia’s Electoral College votes to President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.
But on Monday, Georgia’s Republican secretary of state office dedicated part of a morning news conference to debunking that falsehood and many others, in what was called “Disinformation Monday.” Gabriel Sterling, the voting implementation manager in Georgia and a Republican, said in the news conference that watching the entire surveillance footage of Election Day showed that workers had first packed the suitcases with valid, uncounted ballots and then later unpacked those same ballots. They had not taken out suitcases full of fake ballots, he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/07/technology/suitcases-ballots-georgia-election.html
That singular scene — of workers taking out suitcases of votes — was then selectively edited and shared by allies of President Trump as a conspiracy theory that election workers had dragged out fraudulent ballots under the cover of night. According to the theory, those suitcases helped swing Georgia’s Electoral College votes to President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.
But on Monday, Georgia’s Republican secretary of state office dedicated part of a morning news conference to debunking that falsehood and many others, in what was called “Disinformation Monday.” Gabriel Sterling, the voting implementation manager in Georgia and a Republican, said in the news conference that watching the entire surveillance footage of Election Day showed that workers had first packed the suitcases with valid, uncounted ballots and then later unpacked those same ballots. They had not taken out suitcases full of fake ballots.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/07/technology/suitcases-ballots-georgia-election.html
It seems to me, Scott, (Ch) that you are absolutely determined to see in this tape something that apparently does not hold up to examination, and you will let no amount of actual evidence deter you from that conclusion.
Hasn't it been debunked by Republicans as well as by Democrats who were familiar with what really happened?
Roger...
This isn't about whether or not things can be explained after the fact or not. The fact that the "Secretary of State" is an elected Republican has no bearing on the employees down the line or anything else.
My issue isn't about suitcases or boxes or whether or not someone has "verified that the boxes were otherwise processed" or what not.
That is still red herring and complete red herring.
The only questions are whether or not the poll watchers were mislead into going home and why they originally denied that any ballot counters worked without the normal observers. Even the so called "Election observer" that they claimed was there, was only there for "some" of the time.
They lied, Roger about this... plain and simple.
Then you see (on video) the same set of ballots being run through a scanner multiple times. Not to mention that whatever did take place previously with those ballot boxes... as pointed out by others (who have watched the whole tape as well). Those boxes had been isolated from the others. There is no good explanation as to why.
I am a natural skeptic and a natural cynic. I don't tend to "believe" people at their word when it comes to these sorts of things. I don't accept much of the numbers I hear (on both sides, because there is as much disinformation coming from the right as the left). I double check the numbers myself and do my own research.
So as Steve Martin used to say.... Well Exccccccuuuuuuuseeeee me if I am not willing to take people (who previously lied to us) at their word on this.
Perhaps there are other reasons (than they wanted to cheat) that they wanted to count ballots in private. There is no evidence at this point that they outwardly "cheated". But there is a lot of evidence that they were dishonest and are still being dishonest... I want to know why. As should you.
Oh, and I "still" want to know why this women was cycling through the same ballots multiple times.
Your claims lack evidence beyond speculation from election-worker witnesses and flawed analysis from experts who filed sworn affidavits.
It wouldn't work in a court of law.
Your claims lack evidence beyond speculation from election-worker witnesses and flawed analysis from experts who filed sworn affidavits.
It wouldn't work in a court of law.
The altered video shows a women was cycling through the same ballots multiple times.
It's fake news robotics
Hasn't it been debunked by Republicans as well as by Democrats who were familiar with what really happened?
Nope. It has not been "debunked".
Unless you actually "believe" that the observing media and poll watchers went home on their own accord because they "misunderstood" what was being said.
This is simple Reverend.
- The fact that the ballot boxes were not suitcases is red herring
- The fact that it isn't technically illegal to count without watchers is red herring
- The fact that the boxes of ballots were said to have already been checked is red herring
They are "debunking" implications and allegations of what I am not suggesting.
But they have not "debunked" that four poll counters were counting ballots unsupervised and they have not "debunked" the claims that those who were supposed to be watching them were told to go home.
sorry alky, but if the NY Times is reporting it, with their propensity to lie i'm not believing a fucking word of it.
those cocksuckers wouldn't know the truth if it crashed into their building.
But they have not "debunked" that four poll counters were counting ballots unsupervised and they have not "debunked" the claims that those who were supposed to be watching them were told to go home.
You have no evidence that the unsupervised ballot counters counted the same ballots over and over again.
If they did that they would be charged with crimes. The Republican Secretary of State would be obligated to investigate and indict them.
You double check the numbers until they fit into my opinion.
Selective evidence is dishonest.
It wouldn't work in a court of law.
The altered video shows a women was cycling through the same ballots multiple times.
LOL. you clowns are scared shitless you might just get to find out what works in a court of law. and you have no evidence - only claims - that the video was altered or edited.
you guys pull this shit every time. whether it's project veritas or the planned parenthood videos, you always claim, without proof that they've been altered or edited.
Your claims lack evidence beyond speculation from election-worker witnesses and flawed analysis from experts who filed sworn affidavits.
There were ballot counters running ballots through scanners unsupervised.
That is a fact. Not in dispute.
What is "speculation" is the various explanations as to why.
You can choose to believe literally "everyone" other than the ballot counters, then you will believe that everyone was sent home because they were told that they were done counting. This is consistent with media and SOS Election official statements from that time period that also stated that Fulton county was suspending counting for the night.
Or you can choose to believe that everyone else was lying, that the media reports were wrong, and that the Secretary of State Election division had their head up their ass... and choose then to believe the same ballot counters working unsupervised provided the "real" explanation (that poll watchers and media observers were just confused and went home on their own).
But the fact remains that ballot counters counted ballots without supervision after everyone else had left.
Alky why were the observers AND press, told to go home counting was ceasing?
alky...
unsupervised counting = illegal.
explain THAT.
and as cali asked, observers and press were dispatched.
WHY?
and shove your altered video bullshit up your old, wrinkled, nursing home ass.
If
There were ballot counters running ballots through scanners unsupervised.
And sending them through the counting machine several times as alleged is a crime.
The Secretary of State of Georgia must be part of the deep state conspiracy to defeat the Orange Monster in what passes through what is left to your mind .
The Secretary of State of Georgia must be part of the deep state conspiracy to defeat the Orange Monster in what passes through what is left to your mind .
it's no conspiracy alky. Gabe Sterling is just an asshole and a hack. the GOP is full of them.
pappy mcstain was one. btw, is his funeral over yet?
Roger -
The argument is that it is not a crime to count without watchers, just a crime to "not allow them" to watch. In this case, they are claiming (right, wrong, or whatever) that they did not technically "prevent" anyone from watching. That it was all a big "misunderstanding".
As for the counting being done multiple times, a little birdy has told many people in and around the media that the women in question is being questioned by certain people in authority. In fact, it is the rumor that "all" of the ballot counters in question will likely be talked to.
Maybe there is a reasonable explanation for why the same ballots would go through the same machine multiple times. At any rate, the fact that she isn't currently sitting in jail is once again "red herring" as people just don't go arresting people willy-nilly over these sorts of things.
Without claiming (without any evidence) for the umpteenth time that the tape was "doctored" - what is "your" explanation for why they went through multiple times?
Gabe Sterling is in charge of elections...
He has every reason to defend everything in the process and has been said to have been bragging to anyone who would listen about how well their process went. Unlike many people who live and die with partisanship, sometimes people put themselves ahead of Party.
For Sterling to embrace election fraud and issues with how the counting went, would be akin to him admitting he did his job poorly and probably deserves to be fired. More to the point, when there are these kinds of allegations, then ultimately they are aimed at him.
The New York times reported that the video, released by a Trump supporter is edited
You choose to believe that they hate the Orange Monster
I was having trouble sleeping again last night, Modern Philosophers.
It had been a long day, there was a lot on my mind, and I just couldn’t turn off my brain and make that final, much needed descent into Dreamland.
As I tossed and turned, my Deep Thoughts countered all the movement by going in an entirely different direction.
I don’t mind this sort of gray matter tangent because that is where great screenplay ideas are often found.
Rather than planting the seeds of my next great script, however, my brain gifted me with this crazy thought…
Is Donald Trump that big, hairy, orange monster that tried to eat Bugs Bunny!
I have no idea in what long forgotten crevice that memory had been hiding, but that hairy orange monster now stood at the podium of my mind and had all the other crazy thoughts’ full attention.
What was the monster’s name? Why did he want to eat Bugs? If we captured it and shaved it, would we find Donald Trump beneath all that hair?
It would certainly explain that weird growth on Trump’s head and his odd orange hue.
Take a look at them both side by side and judge for yourself…
The resemblance is uncanny, right? The only reason you can tell which one is Trump and which one is Gossamer (I had to Google the name because I couldn’t remember it for the life of me!) is because Bugs is in the photo with his monster.
Our monster is all by himself in the photo on the right.
As to which one is more scary, I think it’s still too early to tell. If Trump ever gets the nuclear launch codes, though, then the scale definitely tilts in his favor.
Both are larger than life orange cartoon characters with memorable hair, but I don’t remember Gossamer being able to speak. Now that I think about it, Future President Trump would be a hell of a lot less frightening (and dangerous!) if he were
Maybe those wascally wabbits know something about the Republicans’ golden/orange boy that voters do not.
Hopefully, if Trump turns out to be a freshly shaved Gossamer (and I’m guessing he will!), people will finally come to their senses and vote for someone else.
Then again, it’s been pretty obvious from the start that the man is a monster, and he won the Republican nomination by a landslide.
I think that says more about the state of the Republican Party than it does about voters’ love of monsters, but either way, it gives me brain cramps.
Are we about to hand over the keys to the White House (are there actually keys to the White House? If so, who has to carry them around all day?) to a Looney Tunes character? If so, what does that say about America? (aside from the fact that we watch too much TV!)
Why do these sort of Deep Thoughts have to haunt me after such a long day? I’ll never get any sleep now.
Thanks, Obama! This is all your fault for not figuring out how to stay in office for another term.
So orange is the new President? Yikes!
That’s all, folks!
https://moviewriternyu.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/is-trump-bugs-bunnys-big-orange-monster/
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The New York times reported that the video, released by a Trump supporter is edited
You choose to believe that they hate the Orange Monster
alky, the NY Times has been awarded P-U-litzers for their Trump lies for fucks sake.
i have devout, hard core liberal friends who would NEVER believe the NY Times.
LOL.
you guys are so fucking immature bugs bunny's big orange monster is giving you nightmares???
LOL.
One hundred million vaccines in the first 100 days.
that the women in question is being questioned by certain people in authority.
Yes, Ms Ruby Freeman has lawyered up also, she is the person with the “surreptitious” USB handoff to her daughter
In the first 100 days the schools should be open up safety
Not all Republicans are fucking assholes.
Not saying all Republican voters - obvs. But too many. Way too many. No false equivalency in the comments. Talk about the attempted coup or move on.
"What Republican voters think, or say they think, about who really won matters less than the fact that, as a consequence, they actively want their elected representatives to subvert our democracy and keep Trump in power illegitimately.
“Elections officials across the United States” have described a “tide of intimidation, harassment and outright threats.”
These actions do not reflect a mere belief about who won the election. They constitute a series of demands for active moves of one sort or another.
Their general thrust is that Republican legislators should appoint pro-Trump electors — in direct defiance of their own state laws stipulating that electors are chosen by popular vote. Or that Congress should reject legitimate electors. Or that Democratic officials should not certify the popular vote outcomes in their states."
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"Trump called the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives twice during the past week to make an extraordinary request for help reversing his loss in the state, reflecting a broadening pressure campaign by the president and his allies to try to subvert the 2020 election result.
The calls, confirmed by House Speaker Bryan Cutler’s office, make Pennsylvania the third state where Trump has directly attempted to overturn a result since he lost the election to former vice president Joe Biden. He previously reached out to Republicans in Michigan, and on Saturday he pressured Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) in a call to try to replace that state’s electors."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/12/08/trumps-desperate-antics-expose-big-hole-our-discussion-democracy/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-pennsylvania-speaker-call/2020/12/07/d65fe8c4-38bf-11eb-98c4-25dc9f4987e8_story.html
Judge Says Flynn Pardon Doesn’t Mean He’s Innocent
December 8, 2020 at 2:00 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 25 Comments
“A federal judge dismissed Michael Flynn’s prosecution Tuesday after President Trump’s pardon, but said the act of clemency does not mean the former national security adviser is innocent of lying to FBI agents about his talks with the Russian government before Trump took office,” the Washington Post reports.
“In formally ending Flynn’s three-year legal saga, U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan said he probably would have denied the Justice Department’s controversial effort this year to drop the case, which Democrats and many legal experts said appeared to be an attempt by Attorney General William Barr to bend the rule of law to help a Trump ally.”
He's guilty
d up also, she is the person with the “surreptitious” USB handoff to her daughter
Mouth of the south trading in conspiracy bullshit again!!!!!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!! No wonder why the south lost!!!!!
Blogger C.H. Truth said...
Gabe Sterling is in charge of elections...
He has every reason to defend everything in the process and has been said to have been
AND IS A PROUD TRUMP VOTER AND REPUBLICAN!!!!!! Now Lil Schitty embracing trumps attack on the Georgia leadership because he is a mindless follower of a tyrant he adores!!!!! Sad how much his mind has deteriorated in his zeal for authoritarian leadership of trump the LOSER!!!!!!
Judge Sullivan should be dis-barred.
G.O.P.’s previous history of dealing with alternate reality gives, us a pretty good idea about when the party will accept Joe Biden as the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.
Never
I wonder if Lil Schitty has an explanation why the GOP has turned into a group of flaming ass holes!!!!! The asshattery is running deep and strong!!!!!!! Simple astounding and juvenile....just like the fat assed leader!!!!!!!
Kathryn Krawczyk
Tue, December 8, 2020, 1:17 PM EST
The presidential inaugural committee is reportedly refusing to acknowledge there will be a new president inaugurated next month.
The Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies is made up of top leaders of both congressional bodies — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) — as well as Sens. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.). They kicked off preparations Tuesday by considering a resolution basically acknowledging President-elect Joe Biden's win, but the committee's three Republicans voted it down, Politico reports.
AND IS A PROUD TRUMP VOTER AND REPUBLICAN!!!!!!
So? Again... if something happened under his watch then it doesn't matter if he is a Republican or Democrat. His entire career as an election official (or anything in politics) is over.
So most people... if given the choice between losing their jobs and probably never working in their field again vs who is elected President over the next four years... will choose their personal issues.
That is not to say that this particular person has not totally vetted every aspect of everything. It's only to say that the Party he is associated with is irrelevant as to whether or not he would like to see the election he was responsible for be questioned over allegations of broken protocol and possible fraud.
Wrong Roger does it again.
His predictions are legendary.
He told us that The Chargers were the team to watch because of their young "Patrick Mahommes like QB".
Well here ya go.
28. Los Angeles Chargers (3-9)
Week 13 power ranking: 24 ⬇️
So is the best your great mind can come up with????? The sad thing Lil Schitty is you miss the point that even as a trump supporter, he puts the law and country first while you suck on trumps fat white ass!!!!!!! His career is following the constitution and the law which seems beyond your ability to understand....VERY SAD!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! God you can be an ignorant slut for trump!!!!!!
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