So yeah. This is not without some challenges, but the idea is that if the Federal DOJ decides not to enforce any sort of anti-trust or anti-discrimination issues, then the states pretty much have to do it. What it would do, in theory, is allow Twitter or Facebook or whomever to be sued in a state court if they are in violation of state laws regarding discrimination and censorship or possibly even their own versions of the Section 230. Obviously this would, in theory, become a large issue for these social media giants as they would have to create rules that would basically fall to the lowest common denominator to avoid any state lawsuits.
This gets into another murky situation where companies like this do live in a situation where they must conform to numerous types of regulations and such. When California lowers their emission standards, then car companies have to determine if it's cheaper to build separate cars for California or just build all of their cars to the standards laid out by one state. The latter is generally the smarter move than the former, but this creates a situation where one state can push their own standards and laws on everyone else.
So similar to the California emission laws, there may be states who decide to really crack down on big tech to the degree that they can with the intention of making a bigger difference overall. Obviously Twitter or Facebook cannot decide not to do business in these states (that would be impossible). So they may have to make decisions on whether or not they are willing to fight lawsuits at a state level in order to maintain their own rules and regulations, or whether they adapt their rules to what they are seeing at the state levels.
Obviously the first thing these tech companies would do is challenge the laws in federal court. That could turn out to be one of the biggest state rights cases that we have ever run across.
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once individual states have to start addressing fundamental principles like freedom of speech, secession is not that much of a stretch.
it's such a fucking shame that the left has ravaged our republic to this extent.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.Intelligence plus character-that is the goal of true education.Everybody can be great…because anybody can serve. You don’t have to have a college degree to serve. You don’t have to make your subject and verb agree to serve. You only need a heart full of grace. A soul generated by love.We must come to see that the end we seek is a society at peace with itself, a society that can live with its conscience.A man who won’t die for something is not fit to live.No one really knows why they are alive until they know what they’d die for.
What King and Others Wrought
The titanic achievements of America’s civil rights movement refute claims by the Left that the country remains “systemically racist.”
Online misinformation about election fraud plunged 73 percent after several social media sites suspended President Trump and key allies last week, research firm Zignal Labs has found, underscoring the power of tech companies to limit the falsehoods poisoning public debate when they act aggressively.
The new research by the San Francisco-based analytics firm reported that conversations about election fraud dropped from 2.5 million mentions to 688,000 mentions across several social media sites in the week after Trump was banned from Twitter.
Election disinformation had for months been a major subject of online misinformation, beginning even before the Nov. 3 election and pushed heavily by Trump and his allies.
Zignal found it dropped swiftly and steeply on Twitter and other platforms in the days after the Twitter ban took hold on Jan. 8.
Anonymous Caliphate4vr said...
What King and Others Wrought
The titanic achievements of America’s civil rights movement refute claims by the Left that the country remains “systemically racist.”
systemic racism always was and is a marxist con. and how convenient was it for criminal junkie floyd to OD when he did.
that the left would tout the teachings and writings of Dr. King is telling to just how low they're willing to go, besmirching his reputation as a means to an end in their war against their political enemies.
Private companies are not obligated to post statements designed to incite Insurrection.
I’ve been a big fan of Medium, although I’ve learned quickly there are certain “publications” — essentially sub-blogs — that it’s best to avoid. Today I saw a piece published two days ago, The Moderation War Is Coming to Spotify, Substack, and Clubhouse, that addressed how Parler was censored and destroyed by Apple, Google, Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon, and then warned that Parler won’t be the last.
The given reason, of course, was people were saying violent things on Parler and all the biens pissants are, of course, shocked, shocked that this was “permitted.”
It might be different if the double standard weren’t so glaring. As Amazon was canceling Parler’s hosting — in apparent violation of their contract — they were selling “Kill All Republicans” tee-shirts, and it turns out that while Twitter and Facebook were canceling Parler, the actual mob was coordinating on Twitter and Facebook.
https://pjmedia.com/uncategorized/charlie-martin/2021/01/17/why-was-parler-censored-by-its-competitors-n1390205
hypocrisy is the bedrock of liberalism.
inciting a completely non-existent insurrection is "oh so terrible!!!" but selling 'Kill All Republicans' shirts is cool.
this type of thinking isn't just stupid. it's alky-stupid.
Segregation and superset voting rights is systematic racism.
then take it up with the black college kids who demand to segregate into black-only housing. it's happening at colleges from coast to coast.
and i don't know what "superset" voting is. i'm not able to probe the depths of alky-stupid.
47 hours
Segregation and suppressed voting rights is systematic racism.
You lost that in the mid sixties rrb.
Republicans were the key factor.
But the Republican party of Abraham Lincoln is dying of Trumpism Brain Cancer.
Roger Amick said...
Segregation and suppressed voting rights is systematic racism.
You lost that in the mid sixties rrb.
i didn't lose on that issue alky.
YOU did. i was YOUR very own grand kleagle Byrd D-KKK who led the filibuster AGAINST the civil rights act of 1964.
you should know better than to lie on this particular topic alky. i clean your clock on it every fucking time you try.
Scott, I don't think it based upon politics.
Trump’s speech was calculated to incite Insurrection.
Private companies are not anti Trumpets.
They are not required to shout fire in a movie theater.
The internet is open to anyone and anything.
I don't think that the conservative majority in the Supreme Court will required to shout fire in a movie theater or in the public.
That's fucking stupid trolling.
He actually admitted error when he was younger.
Seriously. Scott you have one last chance to stand with the Constitution and make it clear that not even Donald Trump is above the law; and that no president can commit an act of sedition without consequences.
Democrat States Follow The Science By Doing What Florida Did Back In May
U.S.—Democrat-run states are now calling on the nation to follow the science by doing what Florida did back in May, opening their economies with reasonable precautions and protections for the vulnerable.
The states are all now suggesting we begin reopening and that our economies cannot stay closed forever. They are calling this process "following the science," though apparently they mean "follow what Republican states like Texas, Florida, and South Dakota did months ago."
"We must follow the science by doing what Republican states did eight months ago," said Governor Cuomo. "Now that Biden will be our president, it is time for the pandemic to end."
D.C. Mayor Bowser agreed, saying, "The SCIENCE says we must reopen. We cannot kill every small business and restaurant in the city. Think about how a tanking economy would hurt President Biden."
She also said, "We must catch that rascally plumber Mario!"
Governor Newsom isn't quite on board yet, saying he will wait to follow the science and reopen until Kamala Harris is president.
The monopoly issue is very different in terms of the modern world.
RFD broke up Standard Oil, because it had control of every known areas where petroleum was known.
The internet is available to anyone.
“Non-violence is absolute commitment to the way of love. Love is not emotional bash; it is not empty sentimentalism. It is the active outpouring of one’s whole being into the being of another.” - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. #MLKDay
Jimmy Hitler will get served with a civil suit soon after
A Double Standard of Discrimination
This crusade to stop serving right-wingers for their views has continued unabated while the pundit class and illiberal leftist leaders cheer. But what if the tables were turned? While it’s hard to imagine conservatives controlling Silicon Valley, we don’t have to wonder how the left would respond to being denied services. We already know.
In 2012, a group of angry leftists hauled a cake artist to court after he declined to design a cake celebrating a same-sex wedding because it violated his deeply-held religious beliefs about the sanctity of marriage. It bears noting that Jack Phillips, who had been decorating cakes for the Colorado community for about 20 years, didn’t even deny service to the gay couple. He happily offered to serve them for other occasions or to provide them other already made goods from his store — but that was unacceptable.
Jack endured threatening phone calls, harassment, loss of business, his name being dragged through the mud, a state battle, and then a Supreme Court case before emerging victorious — but not for long. Not even a month later, Jack became the target of another lawsuit when he declined to design a cake celebrating a transgender person’s identity.
While that case was ultimately dropped, Jack is now ensnared in another legal fight. More than seven years and three legal battles later, Jack’s story clearly illustrates what happens when conservatives decline even a single service to anyone of an opposing worldview.
More examples abound. Barronelle Stutzman, the owner of Arlene’s Flowers, was targeted for declining to provide flowers for the wedding of a gay couple, despite having served the patrons in other capacities for nine years. Two Christian artists and owners of a stationery store faced a similar fate. When a group of nuns declined to provide contraceptives, in accordance with their constitutionally protected beliefs, they too were dragged to court. The same happened for Christian family-owned Hobby Lobby.
Hypocrisy that Harms Society
Never mind that the above cases involve instances of deeply held religious beliefs and incredibly narrow denials of service, protected by the First Amendment, rather than sweeping and capricious purges by unaccountable oligarchs who have decided they can stop serving you for any reason, at any time, with zero accountability.
“The hypocrisy of these Big Tech companies truly knows no bounds,” said Jeremy Tedesco, senior counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom, the conservative nonprofit that helped defend Phillips and others in many of the aforementioned cases. Tedesco continued:
In Masterpiece Cakeshop, they argued to the Supreme Court that cake artist Jack Phillips should be denied his First Amendment right to decline to promote messages with which he disagrees. But Amazon and Apple invoked these same rights where they claimed litigants were forcing them to promote unwanted messages. It’s wrong for these companies to claim this right for themselves and then advocate that it be taken away from everyone else. Through their hypocrisy and censorship, these corporations are undermining free speech, an essential foundation of our society.
In aggressively censoring viewpoints they don’t like, leftist corporations have done more than undermine free speech. They’ve exposed the gross double standard they’ve created for who is allowed to deny service and who isn’t, for who can expect to be served and who can’t.
The illiberal left isn’t about ensuring equal service for all. They love discrimination when it means nuking dissenters out of their businesses and off their platforms — but they’ll gladly drag you to court and ruin your reputation in the process if you politely decline to serve them.
Jimmy Hitler will get served with a civil suit soon after
Soon after you are hit with one for lying about people here whom you disagree with? Oh wait, that would be almost everyone other than the Reverend and Bwaa. Everyone else you fundamentally lie about all the time.
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