Saturday, January 23, 2021

The left believes Trump is doomed in the Senate and will be convicted

Bombshell reports from the usual suspects suggest that high ranking officials are looking to use a guilty impeachment verdict to ban Trump from running in 2024

  • So if you look hard enough at certain non-impeachment statements and attempt to morph them into impeachment statements, you are apparently looking at several Republican Senators who will be voting to convict the President. 
  • Throw in some anonymous stories about particular Senators who are "quietly in favor of impeachment", and you build on that. 
  • If you include the concept that those Republicans who have not made statements regarding their impeachment vote are "open to it" and that a percentage will be swayed by the arguments, then you have several more. 
  • If you add all that up with anonymous stories from the NYT and WaPo that suggest other high ranking officials are colluding with Republican Senators to figure out how to ban Trump from running in 2024, pretty soon you are closing in on twenty or more Republican Senators who are going to be voting to impeach the President.

It's all but a done deal according to some sources. 

But here is the thing. As of this very moment, there is no Republican Senators who have "actually" come out in favor of impeachment. Not a single one has made any sort of actual statement that they are leaning towards a guilty vote. Many have expressed disappointment with the President and some (Murkowski for one) called for the President to resign after the Capital riots, but none have said that they will vote to impeach the President. 

As of the most recent tally made by the Washington Post - there are fourteen Republicans listed as "open to conviction" and another eight who have not made any statements. Of the fourteen that the Washington Post includes as open to conviction, there are some very conservative red state Republicans (James Inhofe, James Lankford, Richard Shelby, etc) who have basically provided the talking point that they will "listen to the evidence", but for whom a guilty vote might end their careers. The list of GOP Senators who have not made statements also includes some very conservative red state Senators who would be very unlikely guilty votes. 

According to that same tally, twenty eight Republicans are openly opposed to the impeachment, many on general principle. So a better way of looking at this is to ask yourself whether or not the House Democrats can convince seventeen of the twenty two Republicans who are not openly opposed to impeachment to vote guilty.  Obviously if you can find six Republicans on that list who are likely non-guilty votes, then they will fall short of the votes needed for impeachment. On top of that, if certain Democrats (Joe Manchin for one) were Republicans, the statements they have made would likely have placed them into the opposed category. It's possible that two or three Democrats might vote to acquit.

Now here is the rub. If it becomes clear that there are not the votes to convict Trump of the allegations, then those who might be pushing for impeachment to get that second vote (to ban Trump from running for future office) are now pushing a moot cause. Any GOP Senator who might have been thinking along those lines (he is probably not guilty, but it would be nice to ban him from running in 2024) will no longer have the incentive to vote guilty. 

If I had to guess, I would offer that you will get some guilty votes from the usual never-Trumper suspects. Murkowski is likely a Guilty vote, as is Romney because he is Romney. Ben Sasse has never liked Trump and has no incentive to appease him now. Pat Toomey is retiring and might be a guilty vote. Richard Burr and Shelly Capito have both made statements that they feel the President is responsible and might be guilty votes. Susan Collins is Susan Collins and could go either way.

But at the end of the day, if all these Republicans are doing is casting a symbolic vote for a man who is no longer in office, then they better feel pretty strongly about that vote. There is going to be some deference being played by what the actual role is with Congress and whether or not impeaching a lame duck President without any hearings within a couple of weeks of his last day in office is what our Congress really should be doing. 

As it stands, nobody has been charged with insurrection and there has been no uncovering of an actual plot to overthrow the Government in order to appoint Trump as King or Emperor. Those who have been arrested are facing charges most commonly aligned with trespassing and interfering with Government business. Moreover, the statements the President made would not fall under the guidelines of what constitutes "incitement".  Similar types of cases have been tossed by the courts on numerous occasions. Moreover, since the impeachment vote in the House, more information has been brought out that seems to prove that these events were pre-planned and by definition couldn't have possibly been "incited".  

Bottom line: There is no "legal" case for incitement of a insurrection. There is only a semantic political case. While we all appreciate the part that semantics, partisanship, and political rhetoric plays in politics, there are some things (such as impeachments) which should be held to a higher standard. 

64 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting AG https://nyti.ms/2MkOAcc

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott "There is no "legal" case for incitement of a insurrection."

Words can be used as evidence.

If you tell others to violate the law, it's admissible in a hearing.

And you must not have seen the blockbuster from The New York Times article
There is no "legal" case for incitement of a insurrection. 

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Because the Senate hearing has been postponed until February 8th even more stories will come out.

A lot of people who worked for Trump will be speaking out.

C.H. Truth said...

And you must not have seen the blockbuster from The New York Times article
There is no "legal" case for incitement of a insurrection.


Did that article also talk about section 320?


The USSC has ruled on what constitutes a legal case for incitement. Are you arguing that some reporter from the NTY knows better than the USSC about the law?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He will be facing both federal and Georgia law violations on voting fraud.

I will get the links

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It doesn't mention 320

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

incitement of a insurrection..

The Constitution says that the President can be convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors. The Senate members have the sole authority to determine if he committed a high crime or misdemeanor.



Supreme Court decisions are irrelevant.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...



LII U.S. Code Title 18 PART I CHAPTER 115 § 2383

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection




Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

C.H. Truth said...

The Senate members have the sole authority to determine if he committed a high crime or misdemeanor. Supreme Court decisions are irrelevant.

My statement, Roger, was that there is no "legal" case for incitement of insurrection. Doesn't mean that some Senators won't vote to convict him. They voted to "convict" him of things in the Ukrainian impeachment that nobody even pretended to be against any real laws.

But the fact that there is no "legal" case for incitement will resonate with many Republican Senators, most of whom are more traditional and literal about what impeachment means. They actually believe that High Crimes and Misdemeanors means just that. They don't believe that it is just a bunch of silly words and at the end of the day Congress can just "do what they want".


So as it pertains to whether or not the President technically broke any laws (which will be the relevant bar being set for probably all but a handful of Republicans) - There actually is NO LEGAL CASE that can be made here.

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

Roger Amick said...
It doesn't mention 320


roger is beyond any rational thought

he has beclowned himself on this so many times it's just sad.

He'd be a great lawyer for Biden and neither would know why

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

Roger Amick said...
incitement of a insurrection..


Or as Chuck Schumer would put it

incitement of an erection

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

The one thing that Scott never mentions in his thread article is the fact that it has been repeatedly reported that Mitch McConnell has been making strong statements to Republican Senators indicating that he thinks the GOP needs to free itself of Trump, and one of the best ways to do that would be to convict him and thus assure that he could never again run for President.

Nor only THAT, but rather than coming out firmly against conviction, McConnell has said that Senators should "vote their conscience."

Of course he is facing a backlash on that from Trump quislings like Lindsey Graham who says that convicting Trump would deeply damage both the GOP and Mitch's leadership of it.

McConnell, however, seems to think that NOT to convict will deeply damage the GOP.

Meanwhile, Trump is making noises about forming a third party, which would also hurt the Republicans.

They're caught between a rock and a hard place, aren't they?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your "opinion" that there is NO LEGAL CASE is contrary to the law.

LII U.S. Code Title 18 PART I CHAPTER 115 § 2383

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection.

The Senators can decide whether he violated the law or not. But your opinion is not factual.

If the DOJ files charges for vote fraud, then the Senators of the Republican party are going to address law and order.

It's also possible that Georgia will indict him for vote fraud.

Will you still oppose conviction?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

McConnell has not disputed the CNN story.

rrb said...



Words can be used as evidence.


indeed they can alky. and they will be.

the transcript of Trump's Jan. 6 speech, as well as all of his subsequent social media posts call for peace, not violence, not insurrection, not even an erection.

only a liar seeks to convict Trump of inciting an insurrection.

.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott said at the end of the day Congress can just "do what they want".

Exactly correct.


But think about this.

A lot of major contributors are moving away from the Republicans.

If President Biden is successful in economic recovery and vaccine distribution, they may contribute to the Democratic candidates across the country.

McConnell is correct about Trump.

If people like you keep supporting Trump, the Republican party may lose states in 2022!
Biden is not a tool. He's not demented.
James is right about you.

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Your "opinion" that there is NO LEGAL CASE is contrary to the law.


it's actually completely consistent with the law.

and on a side note - the law that you cite is irrelevant to the impeachment, as the impeachment is a political and not a legal proceeding.

this whole thing is bullshit on stilts, alky.

just like every fucking thing you post.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I think that Lyndsey Graham is causing Jimmy Hitler to get an erection.

rrb said...



lindsey graham is as big a fucking asshole as you are alky.

LOL.

it's hard to name a more worthless piece of shit in the GOP.

other than pee-air defecto that is.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The law is relevant in the Senate impeachment hearings.


rrb said...



how's your Section 320 litigation coming along, wife beater?

has Fuckerberg retained you as chief counsel yet?

LOL.

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

The law is relevant in the Senate impeachment hearings.



nursing home attorney fails again.



Article 2, Section 4--". . .on impeachment for, and on conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanors."

This implies that the impeachment process is not tightly linked to the criminal law. The test is not satisfied by all crimes. With only two named offenses to provide context for the inclusive phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors," the standard remains undefined. The language suggests, however, that criminal action may be required. It is worth noting that the term "misdemeanor" does not correspond to the modern definition of a less serious (sub-felony) statutory or common law criminal offense.



https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/impeachment



you broke more laws threatening and beating Lydia's ass than Trump ever broke alky.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Senators can decide.

Your argument is irrelevant

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Somewhere I have your name and address.

Stop saying that or I will sue your ass in the next couple months.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I was never indicted or charged with crimes.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/22/politics/mcconnell-trump-impeachment-conviction-republicans/index.html

The CNN story, updated.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

If you have his name and address, Roger, send it to me.

Caliphate4vr said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...
Somewhere I have your name and address.


It can’t be hard to search a fucking room alky

Anonymous said...

rrbJanuary 23, 2021 at 7:50 AM

Blogger KansasDemocrat said...

Roger, stop making excuses for Biden.


i'd like to see the WaPo track the excuses made for *Biden like they tracked the "lies" (LOL) made by Trump

Anonymous said...

It is as IF Three Socialist Stooges of CHT can stop Hating Trump and move on the Greatness of the Dark Winter Presidency?

Trump delivered $1,800
Biden delivered $ 0.00

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump was desperate and demented

Trump continued to press Rosen after the meeting — in phone calls and in person. He repeatedly said that he did not understand why the Justice Department had not found evidence that supported conspiracy theories about the election that some of his personal lawyers had espoused. He declared that the department was not fighting hard enough for him.

As Rosen and the deputy attorney general, Richard Donoghue, pushed back, they were unaware that Clark had been introduced to Trump by a Pennsylvania politician and had told the president that he agreed that fraud had affected the election results.

Trump quickly embraced Clark, who had been appointed the acting head of the civil division in September and was also the head of the department’s environmental and natural resources division.

As December wore on, Clark mentioned to Rosen and Donoghue that he spent a lot of time reading on the internet — a comment that alarmed them because they inferred that he believed the unfounded conspiracy theory that Trump had won the election. Clark also told them that he wanted the department to hold a news conference announcing that it was investigating serious accusations of election fraud. Rosen and Donoghue rejected the proposal.

As Trump focused increasingly on Georgia, a state he lost narrowly to Biden, he complained to Justice Department leaders that the U.S. attorney in Atlanta, Byung Pak, was not trying to find evidence for false election claims pushed by Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani and others. Donoghue warned Pak that the president was now fixated on his office and that it might not be tenable for him to continue to lead it, according to two people familiar with the conversation.

That conversation and Trump’s efforts to pressure Georgia’s Republican secretary of state to “find” him votes compelled Pak to abruptly resign this month.

Clark was also focused on Georgia. He drafted a letter that he wanted Rosen to send to Georgia state legislators that wrongly said that the Justice Department was investigating accusations of voter fraud in their state and that they should move to void Biden’s win there.

Rosen and Donoghue again rejected Clark’s proposal.

On New Year’s Eve, the trio met to discuss Clark’s refusal to hew to the department’s conclusion that the election results were valid. Donoghue flatly told Clark that what he was doing was wrong. The next day, Clark told Rosen — who had mentored him while they worked together at the law firm Kirkland & Ellis — that he was going to discuss his strategy with the president early the next week, just before Congress was set to certify Biden’s electoral victory.

Unbeknown to the acting attorney general, Clark’s timeline moved up. He met with Trump over the weekend, then informed Rosen midday Sunday that the president intended to replace him with Clark, who could then try to stop Congress from certifying the Electoral College results. He said that Rosen could stay on as his deputy attorney general, leaving Rosen speechless.

Even if they did, it wasn't enough to reverse the election results

He was nuts

Luckily Pence and others didn't let him declare martial law or something worse

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

When I find it I will Facebook messages to you

Anonymous said...

Roger, are you again suicidal?

Anonymous said...

The Dark Winter Presidency
Stopped all ICE Deportations.
Keeping Criminal Illegals in the USSA and for release within this Country.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A year ago I said too much personal crap but I'm fine

C.H. Truth said...

Sorry Roger...

But the law is not an opinion. If there was an "insurrection" on Jan 6th, then those people who stormed the capital would be "charged" with "insurrection".

It's like saying that someone "incited" someone to commit murder, when the person they "incited" never actually murdered anyone.

In this case... hard to argue incitement of "insurrection" when there legally has been no insurrection.



I know this is probably too high level for someone of your inferior intellect. But just because certain people "describe" those events one way, doesn't make them legally that description.


The day that people are charged and convicted of planning and attempting an insurrection is the day you can claim someone "incited" them.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your inferior intelligence is apparent.

Several of the people have been charged with Insurrection and other charges.

If it goes to court, your opinion is proven invalid you will change the topic as usual.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The January 6th was an Insurrection conducted by people who were following his incitement.

Call me alky and stupid lolololololololololol

C.H. Truth said...

Well Reverend...

I guess time will tell if Goddard finally gets something right after getting everything else during the Trump years dead wrong.

You say Trump will be convict4ed based on your superior knowledge of what Politicalwire.com is reporting.

I am more inclined to listen to what the Senators are actually saying.

- Right now the amount of Republican Senators who are already on record as being not guilty votes is only five Senators short of him being acquitted. In other words if any five of those who are "said" to be either open or mum about the case vote not guilty, then look for the domino effect to follow. I suspect that we already can pretty much be sure that this many are quietly against it (but giving it the respect it deserves to say they will listen).

- Right now the amount of Republican Senators who are already on record as being guilty votes is seventeen short of what is needed to convict him. Unless something drastically changes between now and a Senate trial, I don't see that many red state conservative Senators bucking their constituents and putting themselves in the position that Liz Cheney is in right now.

Liz Cheney is an extremely conservative Representative from an extremely conservative state who has been a "never-Trumper" for some time (largely due to the fact that the Bush/Cheney admin players are largely anti-Trump). Her emotional vote to stick it to Trump on his way out cost her whatever political career she had.

McConnell faced a censor from the local Republicans from his state as well, and his constituents are fuming mad at him for making anti-Trump statements regarding this. McConnel has a fraction of the fanbase clout that Trump has (even considering their two positions right now).

C.H. Truth said...

Several of the people have been charged with Insurrection and other charges.

Really... name one?

As of this morning, nobody listed on the DOJ website has been charged with any sort of conspiracy to do anything other than enter the building.

Sorry, Ace... you are simply wrong on fact.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump's hotel in Washington DC is on federal property. So, President Biden is his landlord!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Nobody has yet been charged with Insurrection. But...there are several Congress members gave tours of the Capitol building on January 5th.

If they get indicted, it is very likely

But your distracting attention from the ex President.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

If the president directed them, it was insurrection because they invaded the Capitol building with the intent to hang Mike Pence.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Words and intent are admisable if my spelling is correct!

Caliphate4vr said...

Trump cured the Flu!!!

Jan. 22 (UPI) -- The effects of the seasonal flu in the United States remain "lower than usual for this time of year," with just 0.1% of nose and throat samples tested nationally coming back positive for the virus, according to data released Friday by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Fewer than 2% of all healthcare visits across the country have been linked with flu-like symptoms or illness since the 2020-21 influenza season began two months ago, the agency said.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I don't know how many of you agree that this is a great thing.

Some conservatives are exploding like a nuclear bomb!

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Policy. Every person should be treated with respect and dignity and should be able to live without fear, no matter who they are or whom they love. Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports. Adults should be able to earn a living and pursue a vocation knowing that they will not be fired, demoted, or mistreated because of whom they go home to or because how they dress does not conform to sex-based stereotypes. People should be able to access healthcare and secure a roof over their heads without being subjected to sex discrimination. All persons should receive equal treatment under the law, no matter their gender identity or sexual orientation.

These principles are reflected in the Constitution, which promises equal protection of the laws. These principles are also enshrined in our Nation’s anti-discrimination laws, among them Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as amended (42 U.S.C. 2000e et seq.). In Bostock v. Clayton County, 590 U.S. ___ (2020), the Supreme Court held that Title VII’s prohibition on discrimination “because of . . . sex” covers discrimination on the basis of gender identity and sexual orientation. Under Bostock‘s reasoning, laws that prohibit sex discrimination — including Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, as amended (20 U.S.C. 1681 et seq.), the Fair Housing Act, as amended (42 U.S.C. 3601 et seq.), and section 412 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, as amended (8 U.S.C. 1522), along with their respective implementing regulations — prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation, so long as the laws do not contain sufficient indications to the contrary.

Discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation manifests differently for different individuals, and it often overlaps with other forms of prohibited discrimination, including discrimination on the basis of race or disability. For example, transgender Black Americans face unconscionably high levels of workplace discrimination, homelessness, and violence, including fatal violence.

It is the policy of my Administration to prevent and combat discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation, and to fully enforce Title VII and other laws that prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation. It is also the policy of my Administration to address overlapping forms of discrimination.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Sec. 2. Enforcing Prohibitions on Sex Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation. (a) The head of each agency shall, as soon as practicable and in consultation with the Attorney General, as appropriate, review all existing orders, regulations, guidance documents, policies, programs, or other agency actions (“agency actions”) that:

(i) were promulgated or are administered by the agency under Title VII or any other statute or regulation that prohibits sex discrimination, including any that relate to the agency’s own compliance with such statutes or regulations; and

(ii) are or may be inconsistent with the policy set forth in section 1 of this order.

(b) The head of each agency shall, as soon as practicable and as appropriate and consistent with applicable law, including the Administrative Procedure Act (5 U.S.C. 551 et seq.), consider whether to revise, suspend, or rescind such agency actions, or promulgate new agency actions, as necessary to fully implement statutes that prohibit sex discrimination and the policy set forth in section 1 of this order.

(c) The head of each agency shall, as soon as practicable, also consider whether there are additional actions that the agency should take to ensure that it is fully implementing the policy set forth in section 1 of this order. If an agency takes an action described in this subsection or subsection (b) of this section, it shall seek to ensure that it is accounting for, and taking appropriate steps to combat, overlapping forms of discrimination, such as discrimination on the basis of race or disability.

(d) Within 100 days of the date of this order, the head of each agency shall develop, in consultation with the Attorney General, as appropriate, a plan to carry out actions that the agency has identified pursuant to subsections (b) and (c) of this section, as appropriate and consistent with applicable law.

Sec. 3. Definition. “Agency” means any authority of the United States that is an “agency” under 44 U.S.C. 3502(1), other than those considered to be independent regulatory agencies, as defined in 44 U.S.C. 3502(5).

Sec. 4. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR.

THE WHITE HOUSE,
January 20, 2021.

Anonymous said...

Alky agreed and conceeded the Match.

"C.H. TruthJanuary 23, 2021 at 2:56 PM

Several of the people have been charged with Insurrection and other charges.

Really... name one?

As of this morning, nobody listed on the DOJ website has been charged with any sort of conspiracy to do anything other than enter the building.

Sorry, Ace... you are simply wrong on fact."

Alky answered "If they get indicted"

Roger, I know you have zero military experience, but, CHT pull the pin on the grenade and you let the spoon release, boom.

Scott Johnson Powerline said...

He's not happy.

EVERYTHING IS BROKEN

More or less without exception each one of the executive orders promulgated by the gentleman from Madame Tussauds on January 20 belies the principles of good government, though each one in its own distinctive way. Taking the rationale of any one of them to its logical conclusion, one can infer the others and the tyrannical dystopia they mean to hang around our necks. We’re on the road to find out.

Take, for example, executive order 15 of the sad 17 (as counted out by Politico): Executive Order on Preventing and Combating Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation. Whether you are a man simply calling yourself a woman or a man surgically altered to simulate a woman, you are to be treated as a woman. According to the order, you have a constitutional and legal right to be treated as such.

The order explains: “Discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation manifests differently for different individuals, and it often overlaps with other forms of prohibited discrimination, including discrimination on the basis of race or disability. For example, transgender Black Americans face unconscionably high levels of workplace discrimination, homelessness, and violence, including fatal violence.”

Do transgender Blacks require special legal protection from violence, including fatal violence? They may in jurisdictions where Soros approved prosecutors hold sway, but not because of “prohibited discrimination” (rather, because of the Krasner effect). We aren’t supposed to think about this too closely. We are just supposed to swallow it down.

In this case, not all blame can be attributed to the gentleman from Madam Tussauds and his handlers. The Supreme Court must take a share for its decision in Bostock v. Clay County and Congress a share for its bland complicity in the Court’s absurd misreading of federal civil rights law. What we have here is evidence that everything is broken.


Anonymous said...

Every time, Alky gets blown up , he spams.
Uncontrolled Anger.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

All I said was that not yet

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Re 2:55
TO SCOTT:
First, my thoughts are not based on Goddard, but on multiple sources including CNN, a recent article from which says:

“As the House prepares to send articles of impeachment to the Senate on Monday, CNN has learned that dozens of influential Republicans around Washington — including former top Trump administration officials — have been quietly lobbying GOP members of Congress to impeach and convict Donald Trump. The effort is not coordinated but reflects a wider battle inside the GOP between those loyal to Trump and those who want to sever ties and ensure he can never run for President again.

“The lobbying started in the House after the January 6 attack on the Capitol and in the days leading up to impeachment. But it’s now more focused on Sen. Mitch McConnell, the powerful minority leader who has signaled he may support convicting Trump.”

___

In other words, McConnell is signaling that he wants Trump gone, for the sake of the Party.
_______________

Second, do you actually think I will shed numerous tears if some Republican power brokers succeed in opposing McConnell and leave Trump in a position where he can more easily continue unleashing chaos into and onto the GOP?

NOPE!
Both scenarios seem encouraging to me!
:-)

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

PS Those are my own thoughts at 12:50.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Roger said,
"Biden is not a tool. He's not demented."

James says,
"True. And he's VERY determined."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I don't let other people make up my mind. I work very hard and try to be objective not on my political views.

Anonymous said...

Lol@Roger

Anonymous said...

Roger, smack that do over button like it is your Job.

"work hard" on this Biden like word salad.

"try to be objective not on my political views." Alky huh?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

THIS MAN IS A DANGER TO THE GOP

Trump Threatens to Start ‘MAGA Party’
6:57 pm
“Former president Donald Trump threw himself back into politics this weekend by publicly endorsing a devoted and divisive acolyte in Arizona who has embraced his false election conspiracy theories and entertained the creation of a new ‘MAGA Party,'” the Washington Post reports.

“In a recorded phone call, he offered his ‘complete and total endorsement’ for another term for Arizona state party chairwoman Kelli Ward, a lightning rod who has sparred with the state’s Republican governor, been condemned by the business community and overseen a recent flight in party registrations. She narrowly won reelection, by a margin of 51.5 percent to 48.5 percent, marking Trump’s first victory in a promised battle to maintain political relevance and influence after losing the 2020 election.”
_______________

Better convict him even if he does form another party for deplorables.

Anonymous said...

Roger and James, Please go to bed mad as always and make up mad, as always.

Christ imagine how you would have been IF you lost.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott, you didn't believe the New York times article on attempted to reverse the Georgia election.

Well, this was just published by The Wall Street Journal.

WASHINGTON—In his last weeks in office, former President Donald Trump considered moving to replace the acting attorney general with another official ready to pursue unsubstantiated claims of election fraud, and he pushed the Justice Department to ask the Supreme Court to invalidate President Biden’s victory, people familiar with the matter said.

Those efforts failed due to pushback from his own appointees in the Justice Department, who refused to file what they viewed as a legally baseless lawsuit in the Supreme Court. Later, other senior department officials threatened to resign en masse should Mr. Trump fire then-acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, according to several people familiar with the discussions.

Senior department officials, including Mr. Rosen, former Attorney General William Barr and former acting Solicitor General Jeffrey Wall refused to file the Supreme Court case, concluding that there was no basis to challenge the election outcome and that the federal government had no legal interest in whether Mr. Trump or Mr. Biden won the presidency, some of these people said. White House Counsel Pat Cipollone and his deputy, Patrick Philbin, also opposed Mr. Trump’s idea, which was promoted by his outside attorneys, these people said. "Probably Rudi Giuliani "

“He wanted us, the United States, to sue one or more of the states directly in the Supreme Court,” a former administration official said. “The pressure got really intense” after a lawsuit Texas filed in the Supreme Court against four states Mr. Biden won was dismissed on Dec. 11, the official said. An outside lawyer working for Mr. Trump drafted a brief the then-president wanted the Justice Department to file, people familiar with the matter said, but officials refused.

After his Supreme Court plan got nowhere, Mr. Trump explored another plan—replacing Mr. Rosen as acting attorney general with Jeffrey Clark, a Trump ally in the department who had expressed a willingness to use the department’s power to help the former president continue his unsuccessful legal battles contesting the election results, these people said.

Mr. Trump backed off that plan after senior Justice Department leadership threatened to resign en masse if the president removed Mr. Rosen, people familiar with the discussions said.

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This is a clear violation of vote fraud laws. This will be added to the house impeachment statement or be added on February 8th.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Kputz I have been sleeping much better since the inauguration!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I also!

Anonymous said...

Look at Roger and James.
Sadly , their health revolves around politics and not an actual life.