Twenty years and three presidents. A comparison using tipp indexes
State of the country indexes
The most obvious things to see are as follows:
- At the time of their Presidencies, Bush inspired more confidence overall than either Obama or Trump with an average index rating of 49.8. There were a couple of indexes where the Trump years exceeded the Bush years, but overall people were more confident during the Bush years than during the next twelve.
- Trump struggled with both Presidential leadership and morals and ethics, as people generally were not confident in either during his Presidency. That being said, his time in charge led to scores high enough in other areas to best Obama with an average score of 45.1
- The scores from the Obama reign were not higher than the Bush era in any category, and trailed the Trump period in five of the seven categories. His Presidency had the most consistently low score, averaging 43.9 in all seven indexes.
The elevated score for the W era might come as a shock to some considering Bush went through both the 9-11 and the great recession. We can only imagine how much stronger he would have looked had it not been for the latter crisis which tanked his approvals down the stretch. Likewise, one has to believe that had it not been for Covid, that the Trump time probably scores higher than it did. Only having four years also makes those Covid years a larger piece of his puzzle. Obama, on the flip side got to take credit for bringing us out of the great recession and had no real major crisis to battle through. One would have suspected that people would have felt more confident under his leadership. But for whatever reasons, they didn't.
28 comments:
Obama was the worst president ever.
Then along came Joe who said "hold my beer"
Carter is hanging on loving every minute of this disaster.
Hopefully America and its Constitution will survive intact.
Obama, on the flip side got to take credit for bringing us out of the great recession and had no real major crisis to battle through. One would have suspected that people would have felt more confident under his leadership. But for whatever reasons, they didn't.
well, there were only so many Peggy Joseph's around to swoon over his hopey-changey bullshit, and bullshit it was.
the only thing to be confident about with 0linsky was his Marxist/ACORN asshattery. that he wore on his sleeve. and when the guy comes right out of the gate by fellating the moose-limb world in Cairo six months after his immaculation, that was the point in time for me that solidified the fact that we were truly fucked.
and now let us cast our gaze upon a series of off-topic alky plagiarisms.
But for whatever reasons, they didn't.
Part of the reason why Obama didn't get above 43.9 in your average is based upon his race. A small but persistence of racist beliefs effected his popularity. The evidence is presented here daily by Jimmy aka rrb.
CPAC has become the The Conartist's Political Agenda Group.
W's average was largely based upon his soars popularity of over 70%.
It dissapeared when he publicly said that Saddam Hussein had WMD and got the authorization through both sides of the Congress.
He is a very good man who cares about other people, but he was misled by the vice President Cheney and others to invade Iraq.
Part of the reason why Obama didn't get above 43.9 in your average is based upon his race.
LOL. of course, alky.
America is brimming with racists and white nationalists. in fact, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting several dozen no matter where you are.
so racist in fact that we elected the jug-eared, bumbling, dipshit not once but TWICE.
playing the race card is always the last refuge of the clueless scoundrel.
Actually Roger... most of these charts have nothing specific to do with the President which is why I broke it into the two groups. Most of them are general feelings that people have about how the country is doing and where it is going in the future.
While you can argue all you want that some white people didn't approve of Obama because he was black (which apparently is different from the many liberals who simply hated Trump for being orange) - that has very little to do with whether or not someone believes that their quality of life or their economic future is good or bad.
As it is... people's day to day feelings about how their life is going is largely dependent on their feelings of work security, how their friends and family are tangibly doing, whether or not they can pay their bills, what the cost of gas and bread is, as well as where they see the economy and society headed moving forward.
That has everything to do with the state of the country under certain Presidents and much less to do with how people felt about the President personally.
Why do you think a fairly unpopular President in Trump was able to provide the country with better feelings about their quality of life, economic optimism, national outlook, and even how the world sees us... than a more popular President (in Obama).
It's because people can separate how the country is doing from whether or not they like a President personally.
but he was misled by the vice President Cheney and others to invade Iraq.
Actually he was misled by the then chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, some guy who was wrong about almost every foreign policy he has ever made in his long career in Washington, some guy named Biden
But a review of Biden's public statements about Iraq in the lead up to the invasion shows he was never entirely opposed to military action against Saddam Hussein, and Biden continued to defend his vote to authorize the war in the months after the US military campaign began.
"Nine months ago, I voted with my colleagues to give the president of the United States of America the authority to use force and I would vote that way again today. It was the right vote then and would be a correct vote today," Biden said in a July 2003 speech at the Brookings Institution.
Of the 20 Democrats still running for president in 2020, only two -- Biden and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders -- were in a position to vote on authorizing President George W. Bush to go to war in Iraq back in 2002.
Sanders, then in the House, voted no. Biden, then chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, voted in favor -- and like other Democrats who voted yes, has spent the years since apologizing for it as the conflict became increasingly unpopular with the American public and Democratic voters.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/04/politics/joe-biden-iraq-war-kfile/index.html
Actually he was misled by the then chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, some guy who was wrong about almost every foreign policy he has ever made in his long career in Washington, some guy named Biden
and never forget that Biden* was the fucking bonehead who wanted to balkanize Iraq, splitting it into thirds and assigning territory to the Shiite's, Sunni's, and Kurds, who were then supposed to follow along and magically re-arrange themselves according to Slow Joe's idea.
The imbecile thought he was playing a game of "Risk" and all he had to do was move the colored pieces around the board and everything was going to magically work itself out.
I have to believe that with the Biden* presidency America has achieved rock-fucking-bottom. We've actually gotten to the point where we have selected the dumbest of the dumb fucks as our leader.
It's because people can separate how the country is doing from whether or not they like a President personally.
liberals do not possess this ability. they simply cannot separate the two.
liberals do not possess this ability. they simply cannot separate the two.
You're probably right, which is why Roger cannot figure any of this out.
Scott you are incapable of being objective when your political is being questioned.
That's why you can't figure out any of this. You resort to insults.
It's true because government is their religion, and whoever is the most prominent democrat is their God. And this is true at every level of government. Here in NY, Killer Cuomo still enjoys 60+% popularity, when in fact it's not a stretch to say he deserves to be brought up on charges - specifically 16,000 charges of criminally negligent homicide. And other prominent NY democrats, instead of working to throw the murderous scumbag out of office, are circling the wagons in slow motion, trying to wait this out.
This is what one-party super majority rule gets you.
party before country, uber alles.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Scott you are incapable of being objective when your political is being questioned.
and there it is, as predictable as the sun rising in the east.
the alky's psychological projection never takes a day off.
Senator Biden was not a neo-conservative.
They deceived President Bush.
He has actually subtly admitted it.
Breaking News.
ORLANDO — In a speech here Sunday to close out the Conservative Political Action Conference, former President Donald Trump will “declare that the incredible journey we began together four years ago is far from over,” coming right up to the line of announcing his 2024 intentions and laying out his vision for the future of “our” Republican party, according to excerpts obtained by NBC News ahead of Trump’s appearance.
“I stand before you today to declare that the incredible journey we began together four years ago is far from over,” the former president is expected to say in his first speech since leaving the White House last month. “We are gathered this afternoon to talk about the future — the future of our movement, the future of our party, and the future of our beloved country.”
The remarks — at least, as scripted — make clear that Trump doesn’t plan to start a new party or leave the GOP, but it does put fellow Republicans who have crossed him on notice.
“The Republican Party is united,” the excerpts read. “The only division is between a handful of Washington DC establishment political hacks, and everybody else all over the country.”
He's not trying to unite the Republican party, he will imply that the RINO are not Republicans.
If he goes off script it's going to be a campaign rally.
They deceived President Bush.
Guess that would be Biden's buddy Colin Powell
Among those lawmakers likely to get a name-check from Trump is Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., who voted to impeach him and has been vocal that the party should move away from his leadership going forward.
But President Joe Biden is also in the former president’s rhetorical crosshairs, with Trump criticizing his successor on immigration, China and school reopenings.
Trump's remarks are expected to last more than ninety minutes. The former president has a well-documented propensity for veering off script— especially in front of friendly audiences like the one he’ll encounter at CPAC. The event’s multi-day program was teeming with Trump allies and sounded, at times, like a Trump-themed airing of grievances, from false claims of an un-secure 2020 election to decrying political correctness and “cancel culture.”
Scott, if Liz Cheney decides to run for President, would you support her, instead of the former?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-cpac-speech-declare-his-political-journey-far-over-n1259093
Breanna Morelloc
https://twitter.com/breannamorello/status/1366050204638711808
Wrapping up at my first CPAC.
It’s strange.
Met a ton of great people this weekend and NOT one white supremacist.
CC: @Acosta
FAKE NEWS just creates FAKE NARRATIVES
the serve to sway the gullible.
Trump is not a racist and everyone knows that except those following the MSM narrative.
enemy of the people
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Breaking News.
left-wing op/ed's ain't "breaking news" alky.
Biden's so-called soft-partition plan - a variation of the blueprint dividing up Bosnia in 1995 - calls for dividing Iraq into three semi-autonomous regions, held together by a central government.
There would be a loose Kurdistan, a loose Shiastan and a loose Sunnistan, all under a big, if weak, Iraq umbrella.
"The idea, as in Bosnia, is to maintain a united Iraq by decentralizing it, giving each ethno-religious group - Kurd, Sunni Arab and Shiite Arab - room to run its own affairs, while leaving the central government in charge of common interests," Biden and Gelb wrote in their opinion piece on May 1, 2006. "We could drive this in place with irresistible sweeteners for the Sunnis to join in, a plan designed by the military for withdrawing and redeploying American forces, and a regional nonaggression pact."
The proposal acknowledges forthrightly what a growing number of Middle East experts say is plain as day: Iraqi Shiites and Sunnis are not moving toward reconciliation; they still haven't managed to get an oil law passed, and de facto ethnic cleansing is under way as Sunnis flee largely Shiite neighborhoods and towns, and vice versa.
The plan was dumped on when it was announced last year.
"Partitioning Iraq: No Starter" was the headline on a column by George Hishmeh in Gulf News, a daily newspaper that specializes in the Middle East. Hishmeh, a former writer for the U.S. Information Agency, pointed out a common complaint about the partition idea, that the very word "partition" has a bad ring to Arab ears given that a UN partition plan paved the way for the creation of Israel.
Foreign policy analysts also pointed out that breaking up Iraq could cause bloodletting (as if that isn't happening now) in Iraq's urban areas. While Sunnis predominate in the western part of the country, Kurds in the north, and Shiites in the south, Iraq's cities are not as homogeneous. Baghdad, Kirkuk and Mosul don't have clear geographical lines separating the main groups.
Or at least they didn't. The reality is, Iraq's cities have become far more homogeneous recently as terrified residents have fled areas where their ethnic group doesn't predominate. The neighborhoods around the edges of Baghdad have already experienced a lot of ethnic cleansing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/world/americas/30iht-letter.1.6894357.html
easily one of the dumbest fucking foreign policy ideas of the modern era.
and this dumbest of the dumb fucks now sits in the big chair.
You are so funny.
W's approval understandably skyrocketed after 9/11 and that influenced the average for his entire presidency, which finally became dismal indeed.
Anyway, back to things that really matter:
Trump Will Attack Biden In CPAC Speech
AP:
Aides tell the Associated Press that Donald Trump will use his speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference to blast President Joe Biden and TRY to cement his status as the party’s undisputed leader going forward despite his loss in November.
AND FAIL?
Trump will say, according to released excerpts: “I stand before you today to declare that the incredible journey we began together four years ago is far from over. We are gathered this afternoon to talk about the future — the future of our movement, the future of our party, and the future of our beloved country.”
According to USA Today, Trump will say Biden has had “the most disastrous first month of any president in modern history.”
LOL, A REAL KNEE SLAPPER THERE!
THEN WHY IS HIS POLLING SO HIGH AND YOURS SO LOW?
“White House officials have said neither they nor Biden plan to comment much on Trump’s speech because they expect to be busy working.”
AND QUIETLY SAVING AMERICA FROM TRUMP STYLED DICTATORIAL FASCISM. :-)
Oh look the pedo with no life nor an original thought.
Spams multiple threads with shit no one reads
Oh look. Cali is reading me again.
He just can't help himself.
And he thinks two equals multiple.
Rick Scott Says the GOP Is Not Trump’s Party
POLITICO:
Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) declined to call the GOP the party of former President Donald Trump and acknowledged President Joe Biden was “absolutely” the legitimate winner of the 2020 White House race, Politico reports.
Scott replied that the GOP is “the voters’ party” and “always has been.”
Cassidy Predicts Trump Won’t Be Nominee In 2024
THE HILL:
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA) predicted that former President Donald Trump “would not be the party’s nominee for president in 2024, pointing to the number of seats lost by Republicans in the House and Senate over the four years Trump was in office,” The Hill reports.
Said Cassidy: “That’s a theoretical that I don’t think will come to pass. I don’t mean to duck, but the truth is you could ask me about a lot of people, if they are fit. Point is, I don’t think he’ll be our nominee.”
No pedo no one reads scanned right over both and everything else you post.
You’re boring and not bright
You mean Bill Cassidy (who voted for impeachment) thinks Trump won't be the nominee? Boy, that's a shocker!
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