Tuesday, February 2, 2021

The group of ten Republicans counterproposal?

Why There Probably Won’t Be a Bipartisan COVID Bill
This weekend, however, a group of 10 Republicans—just enough to help Democrats beat back a filibuster—introduced a $619 billion counterproposal. That “gang,” led by its fearsome nomadic warlord, Sen. Susan Collins, is scheduled to meet with President Joe Biden late Monday afternoon.

So the moderate Republicans looking to cut a deal with Biden are literally offering something that is a third of what Biden has requested. At this point, it sounds like this is not what some people were making it out to be (that these were Republicans looking to undercut the rest of their Party). But even the moderates within the GOP  believe that 1.9 trillion is a ridiculous number.

That being said, look for Democrats to push through enough of this through reconciliation (which requires a simple majority) rather than actually engage in any honest bi-partisanship.  

 

37 comments:

rrb said...



democrats are such assholes, they'll lard up a covid bill with so much pork the actual covid relief component will be relegated to a footnote.





Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The enemy of the country Wall Street Journal reported that if the President's package is passed using reconciliation, would return the economy to pre pandemic levels by late summer .

I think that the circumstances demand the President's package is necessary.

A complete recovery, including reopening thousands of small businesses, will take years.

But despite problems with the immigration reform, in the package, I hope the Democrats get it done before the impeachment hearings next week.

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...


Explain what spending the 1.3 trillion over the moderate ask will do.

Specifically the 100's of billions to foreign countries but also the other "small" stuff.

Thanks in advance, I'll have my calculator at the ready.

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

speaking of impeachment hearings...

Trish Regan
https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1356461517122789376


David Schoen, Trump’s Lawyer:

“Can you imagine any American citizen considering it to be a trial in which the judge and jury has already announced publicly that the defendant must be convicted in this case?”


Kangaroo Court

Joe Biden's America

1984

Anonymous said...

Unilateral Joe Biden .
Death of the BIG Lie of "unity".
"Unity also is trying to get, at a minimum — if you pass a piece of legislation that breaks down on party lines but it gets passed, it doesn't mean there wasn't unity; it just means it wasn't bipartisan."
Joe Stalin-Biden

Anonymous said...

Where is Joe Stalin-biden's tax cuts?

Anonymous said...

Is it unfair of me to read what Alky writes here and his topics and then point out things ?

"Roger AmickFebruary 2, 2021 at 3:33 AM

The US economy is expected to reach pre-pandemic levels by mid 2021"

Well, then there is this;
"would return the economy to pre pandemic levels by late summer."

Get your bullshit straight.

rrb said...

Roger Amick said...

The enemy of the country Wall Street Journal reported that if the President's package is passed using reconciliation, would return the economy to pre pandemic levels by late summer .



alky, you cling to this and post it ad nauseam like it's fucking gospel carved in stone from the fucking mountaintop.

it ain't.

it's a best guess, and it's easy to tell how nervous you are about it coming true based upon the frequency of your references TO IT.

Dementia boy has been at the big desk for exactly two weeks and he has killed 10,000+ $100K/year jobs, and gas has risen $0.30/gallon.

DC is wrapped in a cocoon of fencing and razor wire, and 20,000 troops occupy the city for reasons that we just don't know.

the truth is that Slow Joe an da Ho are on a tear, and not a good one, and their even looking for land mines in West Fucking Virginia. The dogma of fucktard lives loudly within them.

you have a major fucking problem son, and it's time for you to "Embrace The Suck."

LOL.


Anonymous said...

"The U.S. economy is projected to grow at a robust 4.6% annual rate this year, but employment isn’t expected to return to pre-pandemic levels until 2024, the Congressional Budget Office said Monday."
CBO

rrb said...



“Can you imagine any American citizen considering it to be a trial in which the judge and jury has already announced publicly that the defendant must be convicted in this case?”

and even the Chief Justice, who usually presides over these things, blew it the fuck off.

LOL.

rrb said...





In other news, Punxsutawney Alky emerged from room at the group home, pushed his walker into the TV lounge, and declared 6 more weeks of job losses and a miserable, slowing economy with Slow Joe an da Ho at the helm.






Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Senate on Tuesday confirmed Pete Buttigieg to lead the Transportation Department.

Buttigieg is the 19th Transportation secretary and fifth member of President Biden's Cabinet to be confirmed by the Senate. He is also the first openly gay Senate-confirmed Cabinet member in U.S. history.

rrb said...



oh boy. this is newsworthy alky? LOL.

mary pete butt plug got confirmed. the sum total of his "transportation" experience is driving up to lover's lane with his hubby.

maybe he can help Cum-Allah with the land mine search.

LOL.

btw, Rich Grennell is gay and he actually had a job that mattered and he was very good at it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I have my own room and television and wifi and again I can come and go anytime.

I am completely recovered from liver transplant and I don't use a walker or even a cane.
If we met in the gym I would kick your ass. I'm 6'3" 225 and no fat

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

Pete Buttigieg was mayor of a city with 47 buses.

His citizens said he was a train wreck.

For the Biden administration having someone who has ridden a bus a few times for photo opportunities and nothing else other than he's gay makes him the most qualified individual to lead a department spending 85 billion dollar a year. He could have at least picked a gay black man, you can find them sleeping on public transit all the time.

Joe Biden's America

1984

We're fucked

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He was the mayor when they rebuilt the streets and infrastructure, plus he is highly educated and qualified for the job.



Unlike the asshole Thump nominated the post master general

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

Roger Amick said...
I have my own room and television and wifi and again I can come and go anytime.

I am completely recovered from liver transplant and I don't use a walker or even a cane.



Sounds like you are highly qualified for a job in Biden's cabinet if you are also gay

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...


Actually Trump nominated Cocaine Mitch's wife, who while highly experienced in transportation was also the daughter of a Chinese individual in trouble for drug trafficking and who paid ("gifted") Mitch and her (Elaine Chao) 25 million dollars.

I don't think Trump recognized the troubling connections until too late.

Cocaine Mitch

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

Another Biden pick

Lachlan Markay
https://mobile.twitter.com/lachlan/status/1356424697353764867

New: in December, Hunter Biden hired a new criminal defense lawyer. A month later, on inauguration day, one of his close colleagues was appointed as the acting head of DOJ's criminal division

Joe Biden's America

Banana Republic

1984

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has defended Congresswoman Liz Cheney amid a push to remove her as chair of the House Republican Conference following her vote to impeach former President Donald Trump.

“I believe @RepLizCheney is one of the strongest and most reliable conservative voices in the Republican Party,” Graham said on Twitter on Tuesday. “She is a fiscal and social conservative, and no one works harder to ensure that our military is well prepared.”

Graham’s comments follow remarks by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on Monday. The Kentucky Republican praised Cheney in a statement to CNN as some of her House colleagues try to force her out.

“Liz knows that a strong America is a safe America. She believes we must confront radical Islam and take the fight to them to ensure there are no more 9/11’s,” Graham added on Twitter

“In the eyes of many – Liz Cheney’s experience, leadership, and strength are invaluable to the Republican Party.”


I don't agree with her politics but she understands that the Republican party has a get rid of Trumpits like Scott.

Iditots like the above asshole are destroying the Republican party.

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

I have my own room and television and wifi and again I can come and go anytime.



if you can come and go anytime, why are you here all day every day?

you live in SoCal for fucks sake, supposedly minutes from the beach.

yet here you are making a fucking fool of yourself every day. it tempts a person to call bullshit on you alky.



rrb said...



spare us the plagiarism alky.

graham lost all credibility by doing nothing about crossfire hurricane.

and you conveniently call him gay every other day so i'm not sure why you'd be humping his leg today.

Commander-in-Thief Biden said...

Roger Amick said...
I have my own room and television and wifi and again I can come and go anytime.


quite the resume there roger

Thanks for pointing out your sterling credentials

Is it a 14" black and white television ?

Just kidding, it's probably color.

And came with a remote.

Very impressive.

rrb said...



Liz Cheney is trailing her primary challenger by double digits.

and she referred to the Capitol as our most sacred place.

uh, that would be Arlington. she should know this. her dad helped fill the place.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Biden Consolidates the Left
12:20 pm
Mehdi Hassan:
“During the Democratic presidential primaries, I was one of Biden’s fiercest critics on the left… The former vice president, I averred, ‘would be a disaster.’ Well… maybe… perhaps… I was wrong. There, I said it. The new president has been far from a disaster.”

Rich Lowry:
“The fact is that Biden is governing as he promised — further to the left of his own record, further to the left of his ex-boss, former President Barack Obama, and further to the left of any Democrat who made his career prior to the ascendency of the cultural left.

“The lesson is that the most important thing that any movement can do is influence the direction of a major political party. If the center of gravity of a party moves, the entire establishment moves with it. So it is that Biden, who has never been woke or surrounded himself with radicals, is attempting to deliver victories to the left-wing of his party almost unimaginable eight or 12 years ago — and do it quickly.”


Thanks, Joe.
Thanks, Donald.

Anonymous said...

��Blogger Roger Amick said...

I have my own room and television and wifi and again I can come and go anytime��

Ok.

"Adulting"? at age 70.
Congrats, now about buying a new EV.
When do you see that actually happening?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

SCOTT SAYS
But even the moderates within the GOP believe that 1.9 trillion is a ridiculous number.
--Scott Adams, brilliant GOP strategist

ROMNEY SAYS
“When we had a Republican president and House and Senate, we kept on spending massively and adding almost a trillion dollars a year to the national debt. Now we say this is outrageous adding so much to the debt? They say we did the same thing when we were in charge. It does show that you have to be consistent in your arguments.”
— Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT), in an interview with the Salt Lake Tribune.

Anonymous said...

Roger, my son @ 15 had the same things ((room, tv, wifi, of he had an xbox, stereo, fish tank, college fund), you have @ 70, but, he had his own truck, a nice F150 , 2007, No lien.

So Congrats you have less then a 15 year old.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Roger, I would suggest that you completely stop talking about or defending your present living situation and stay with the subject of politics. The fact that they keep bringing it up only shows the poverty of their thinking.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Ok thanks James

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The first error in the response offered by former president Donald Trump’s impeachment attorneys comes in its first line: The document is offered to “Members of the Unites States Senate,” the sort of typo which Trump reportedly once derided as “very embarrassing.”

But it is not an error of substance. For that, one has to read a bit further.

As expected, the document’s evaluation of Trump’s actions surrounding the violent invasion of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 includes a defense of his claims that the 2020 presidential election was marred by voter fraud.
This assertion from Trump — a constant drumbeat offered from the hours after polls closed on Nov. 3 until the morning of Jan. 6 itself — was the primary trigger for the events of the day. Without Trump’s insistences that he’d won the election when he hadn’t, without his efforts to cast various others as obstacles to his serving a second term in office, there’s no rally at the White House that morning and no crowd of people milling around who would then overrun the Capitol. Had Trump simply accepted his loss and telegraphed it to his base, there would have been frustration and anger. But instead, he continually claimed that the election was being stolen, elevating a truly breathtaking litany of allegations, never stopping to assess their credibility but simply pushing them forward, one man tossing empty sandbags in front of the tsunami of reality.

The article of impeachment passed by the House the week after the attempted insurrection at the Capitol leveraged his Jan. 6 speech as the moment of incitement. It also cited those months of falsehoods about the election, coupled with falsehoods about the ability of Congress or then-Vice President Pence to overturn his loss as additional factors.

The response from Trump’s (newly designated) legal team? A two-pronged attempt to minimize Trump’s obvious actions.

“It is admitted that after the November election, the 45th President exercised his First Amendment right under the Constitution to express his belief that the election results were suspect,” the brief reads, “since with very few exceptions, under the convenient guise of Covid-19 pandemic ’safeguards’ states election laws and procedures were changed by local politicians or judges without the necessary approvals from state legislatures.”

“Insufficient evidence exists upon which a reasonable jurist could conclude that the 45th President’s statements were accurate or not,” it continues, “and he therefore denies they were false.”

Later, it specifically argues that his speech at the White House on the morning of Jan. 6 similarly was a reflection of his First Amendment rights.

So the two arguments being made here, both of which are terrible, are that Trump was simply exercising free speech in repeatedly claiming that the election was stolen and, second, that the sanctity of the election is unknowable.

The first point is easily dismissed by anyone who has spent more than five minutes considering the First Amendment and its history. By now, your brain should be jumping up and down hollering, “fire in a crowded theater!” for the very good reason that this commonly known (though often misunderstood) scenario serves as a reminder of how the First Amendment is necessarily limited.

In 1969, the Supreme Court articulated a specific exception to the broad right of free speech: “the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.”

In other words, speech that incites or is likely to incite lawless action is exempted from the First Amendment. Sort of a flaw in using the First Amendment to defend speech alleged to have incited lawless action.

Impressively, it’s the second argument here, the one about “fraud” itself, which is the worse one.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump’s attorneys do two dishonest things one after the other. Trump, they claim, thought that “the election results were suspect” because “under the convenient guise of Covid-19 pandemic ’safeguards’ states election laws and procedures were changed by local politicians or judges without the necessary approvals from state legislatures.”

You may notice that one doesn’t follow from the other. State voting laws were changed and … therefore the results were suspect?

What the attorneys are doing, in fact, is conflating two separate lines of argument made by Trump and his allies after the election. The first line of argument offered that the election was incorrectly administered and that, as a result, huge numbers of votes should be thrown out. The second line of argument was that there was rampant fraud undercutting the reliability of the results. The first argument was an attempt to use the law to simply overturn the election, and when it was presented to various courts, it was rejected. The second argument was a claim about rampant coordinated illegality for which there was never any credible evidence presented.

In other words, the attorneys are claiming that what Trump spent weeks alleging — that there was rampant fraud — was instead an argument about the legality of state voting processes. They’re trying to cloak his incendiary and dishonest assertions in the garb of legal consideration and debate. It’s a ridiculous effort easily undone by, say, searching Trump’s tweets from after the election for the word “fraud.” Not a lot of expressed concern about the mechanisms used to change voting laws.

What’s more, the claim about laws being changed doesn’t stand on its own. The most commonly cited change to the law in a swing state was Pennsylvania’s expansion of mail voting. This was the shift that Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) used as his rationale for objecting to the counting of electoral votes from that state in the hours after the attempted insurrection. But this wasn’t local politicians changing the rules under the pretext of the coronavirus pandemic. It was, instead, a law passed by the Republican majority in the state months before the pandemic began.

Some, including Hawley, have argued that the law violates the state’s Constitution, but after the 2020 presidential election, the chief justice of the state’s Supreme Court wrote that this question shouldn’t affect the millions of votes cast under the new law, since there was no indication that those votes hadn’t been cast by Pennsylvanians in good faith. In other words, the chief justice explicitly broke the connection Trump’s lawyers try to make between “how voting laws changed” and “the results are suspect.”

Then there’s that sentence that should be a midterm exam question for a first-year philosophy course.


Incompetence

Caliphate4vr said...

A lifetime of work for a room and a tv, man sign me up

Anonymous said...

Thing is Roger thinks that level of "achivement" is winning.

41,302 Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office.

Anonymous said...

Issue/Policy

Where is Joe Stalin-Biden's tax cuts ?

JamesNewLeaf's Fucking Daddy said...


I see the"pastor" is still not showing his "links". Of course he never did.

Guess he still can't see anything outside of Goddard's ass

Professional plagiarist, very impressive.

And he posted he was even able to afford a new computer.

Even more impressive.

Maybe he can pull his head out and share a room with roger.

ROFLMFAO !!!


Living the high lifes !!!

rrb said...



The article of impeachment passed by the House the week after the attempted insurrection at the Capitol leveraged his Jan. 6 speech as the moment of incitement.


well that's fucking stupid. when the defense attorneys read the speech in its entirety at trial, I want to see just how stupid it makes democrats look.

go for it alky.