A reasonable person might wonder why the state preferred to offer the jury only selected portions of the videos, rather than be entirely transparent and ensure that the jury is fully informed on the totality of the video evidence relevant to the events surrounding Floyd’s death, but maybe that’s just me.
Or maybe it’s not just me. For example, the full length video of Officer Lane (BWC 5Z7) shows Lane climbing into the ambulance with Floyd—at Chauvin’s direction!– and providing chest compressions in an effort to save Floyd’s life. The state’s offering of that same video footage as Exhibit 47 cuts off immediately prior to Chauvin ordering Lane to jump into the ambulance to provide this medical assistance.
Coincidence that the state’s version excludes Chauvin ordering Lane into the ambulance to assist the efforts to save Floyd’s life? Things that make you go, hmmm.
Andrew McCarthy has been moving a bit in the direction of the defense. He notes the same thing I brought up last week regarding the timing of the breathing issues. He also suggests that it is legally relevant that it was Floyd's choice to be on the ground, and that Chauvin and other other officers called for medical assistance.
Notably, Floyd’s now-famous statements that he could not breathe and that police were killing him, as well as his cries for his mother, were not just reactions — as prosecutors and political activists have framed it — to his being placed in a neck hold by Chauvin after police put him in a dangerous prone position on the street. In reality, Floyd began calling for his mother, and crying out that he could not breathe and was going to die, while police were trying to get him to sit in the back of the squad car. Those claims may have been sincere, but if so, they were spurred by what Floyd maintained were his “claustrophobia” and anxiety over being taken into custody, not by the neck hold in which Chauvin subsequently placed him.
What’s more, it was not the idea of the arresting officers to place Floyd in a prone position on the street. Rather, after propelling his way out of the squad-car rear seat that four cops unsuccessfully struggled to place him in, Floyd insisted that he preferred to lie down on the street. The police restrained him in the position in which he put himself, which was not the position they wanted him in (they wanted him in the car). Reasonably convinced that Floyd was high on drugs (a conclusion supported by his erratic behavior, the accounts of witnesses, and later toxicology tests), the police called for paramedics to take him to a hospital, rather than continuing to try to thrust him in the squad car and take him into police custody.
That is, the police accused of murdering Floyd actually summoned medical help out of concern over his condition.
It now makes me wonder how many people really are still sucked into the narrative and not privy to the whole truth. If someone like McCarthy was not aware (until last week's testimony) that Floyd had been struggling with his breathing and complaining about it prior to the knee to the neck, then how many others are also unaware?
Now with someone like McCarthy, these facts matter. But they may or may not matter to some of those sitting on the jury if they are really tied emotionally to the narrative handed to them since the time of death. They can pretend that they remain open-minded, but sometimes that is not a conscious choice. Cognitive dissonance is strong and has a way of shutting your mind down, especially in manners that are emotionally important to you.
Either way, as the facts keep coming out, more and more people are starting to question the original narrative that led to widespread rioting, destruction, and racial animosity we experienced over the past year. This is why the prosecution continues their legal ploys to limit the amount of "truth" that the jury gets to see and why the defense is bound and determined to show the whole story.
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They are discussing if the prosecution is allowed to include evidence that he exceeded the training program and restraints on his neck.
The defense team is saying that the prosecution used edited videos.
It's live
The Chief of the Minneapolis police department is scheduled to testify today.
Either way, as the facts keep coming out, more and more people are starting to question the original narrative that led to widespread rioting, destruction, and racial animosity we experienced over the past year. This is why the prosecution continues their legal ploys to limit the amount of "truth" that the jury gets to see and why the defense is bound and determined to show the whole story.
In other words, the entire case is built on lies with a side order of emotion.
Pure unadulterated bullshit. Hopefully it results in an acquittal. And fuck it... let the city burn.
You are being sucked into the narrative by the right wing nutcase websites I have been reading for a few days.
The first week consisted largely of the emotional–often, weeping and sobbing–testimony of bystander witnesses, who necessarily saw only a small portion of the officers’ interaction with Floyd, had only limited understanding of what was going on, and lacked vitally important facts about what the officers were doing to try to save Floyd’s life including having made a code 3 “lights & sirens” emergency call for paramedics, who were en route to the scene.
This was followed by the testimony of several Minneapolis Police Department officers who had negative things to say about Chauvin and his purported conduct, but whom similarly had knowledge of only a fraction of the relevant facts surrounding the officers’ interaction with Floyd, as well as of evidence-supported alternative explanations for Floyd’s death other than Chauvin’s knee..
Despite the fact that he continued to kneel down on his neck for about three minutes after he quit breathing.
Ellison deceptively edited the body cam video.
Fact check: TRUE
https://www.lawofficer.com/we-told-you-so-the-george-floyd-incident/
Ellison deceptively edited the body cam video.
Like the part where he pissed out when he died???????? God you are an obstinate sick fucking loser
right wing nutcase websites
You mean like Andrew McCarthy from National Review or Andrew Branca (who specializes in use-of-force law) for Legal Insurrection (a site that has won awards for being non-partisan)?
Those right wing nutcase websites?
You mean ASSHOLES like Andrew McCarthy from National Review or Andrew Branca (who specializes in use-of-force law) for Legal Insurrection (a site that has won awards for being STUPID AND non-partisan)?
Fixed your opinionated pile of crap, Lil Schitty!!!!!!!
The legal insurrection website says that the crowd around the incident and that when the suspect wakes up and posed a threat to the officers, was sufficient to keep kneeling until the paramedics arrived.
Even if we set aside and presume that it was Chauvin’s knee that was a causal factor in which is whether the use of that knee, in that manner, under those circumstances, was wrongful, or lawful.
Further, officers are not only permitted but required to use force not only to protect themselves and the public, but to protect the in-custody suspect, even from himself. To the extent the officers believed Floyd was suffering from excited delirium–and we know they were, because they are heard discussing this concern on their body camera footage–the standard protocol is to completely restrain the suspect’s entire body to prevent the over-exertion believed to kill in cases of excited delirium.
Further, it is well recognized that overdose victims who regain consciousness often immediately respond with violence when they rouse, and thus steps to prevent this would be reasonable. This is all the more the case when the suspect is being restrained on the street in one of the busiest intersections of the city, with moving traffic mere feet away.
All of these are factors that could make Chauvin’s knee on neck restraint of Floyd entirely justified under the totality of the circumstances, and thus not the basis for criminal sanction even if it did contribute to Floyd’s death.
It is circumstantial evidence, and is unlikely to result in innocents or second degree murder.
Since the death of William F Buckley Jr. The National Review the John Birch Society, George Wallace, racists, white supremacists have returned to control.
Since the death of William F Buckley Jr. The National Review the John Birch Society, George Wallace, racists, white supremacists have returned to control.
Roger...
Does your extensive legal education make you feel that what this actual lawyer and expert on use-of-force cases is wrong?
Or are you simply attacking anyone who defends Chauvin to any degree in an emotional knee-jerk reaction?
Lawyers can have political biases.
You have already decided that he is innocent.
I don't know yet.
My personal views are not included in my decision about the former police officer's guilt or not.
Chauvin Trial Week One Analysis: State Offers Abbreviated Versions of Video Evidence
When the jury sees the full videos, it may come back to bite the prosecution case if the jury concludes the abbreviated videos were misleading.
That's not my words
The ER doctor said that Floyd didn't die from a heart attack.
That's not my words
Those are the words of Branca. He wrote them this morning, and they certainly may be true. Prosecution is holding out hope that they can introduce their own edited version and then object to the full videos coming out.
That is not someone else's opinion. That is reading the transcript of the trial where prosecution stated as much. The State stated they were not objection to a full video on foundation grounds, but are wanting the option of objecting on other grounds.
As a matter of opinion Branca (and others) suggest that the state will object as claiming the extra video is somehow more prejudicial than probative. They apparently do not believe that things like Floyd requiring multiple officers to restrain him or kicking at them while even in cuffs is probative. I think the judge will disagree.
I also see no reason why the jury cannot see the fact that the police officers asked EMT to assist Floyd and provide immediate medical attention. It goes 100% to the motive of the officers and whether or not they had any intention of harming or killing him.
WHILE YOU SPEND TOO MUCH TIME LOOKING AT THIS TRIAL,
WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS TAKING SHAPE,
AND THE GOP IS TAKING A BIG RISK, AS FOLLOWS:
Biden's big infrastructure plan hits McConnell,
GOP blockade
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April 5, 2021, 9:29 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) —
Republicans in Congress are making the politically brazen bet that it’s more advantageous to oppose President Joe Biden’s ambitious rebuild America agenda than to lend support for the costly $2.3 trillion undertaking for roads, bridges and other infrastructure investments.
Much the way Republicans provided no votes for the $1.9 trillion COVID-19 relief bill, they plan to sit on the sidelines for this next big lift by the White House, forcing Democrats to take full ownership of the massive package of spending and corporate tax hikes that Biden wants approved over the summer. The tension could mount this week as Biden shows no signs adjusting to satisfy Republican leaders, instead appealing directly to their constituents for support.
“I think the Republicans' voters are going to have a lot to say about whether we get a lot of this done,” Biden told reporters at the White House.
That leaves Biden and congressional Republicans on a collision course, the outcome of which could define the parties and his presidency. The GOP strategy is reminiscent of the Obama-era blockade that helped sour voters on the Democratic president more than a decade ago. Then and now Republicans are intent on saddling Democrats with responsibility for all the taxes and spending to come, much as they did the 2009 rescue after the economic crisis, framing it as government overreach that piles on debt.
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell set the defining tone for his party when he flatly declared last week he will fight Biden’s agenda “every step of the way.”
But it’s not at all certain the GOP playbook that worked more than a decade ago will produce the same political gains this time around. Voters appear tired of the partisan stalemate in Washington, live amid the country's run-down spots and signal they are initially supportive of Biden’s approach to governing, at least on the virus aid package.
Recent polling by The Associated Press-NORC Public Research Center found Americans have responded favorably to the president’s approach, with 73% approving of his handling of the pandemic. That includes about half of Republicans....
Rather than shy from a new era of big government, Democratic leaders in Congress are embracing it, believing they can bypass the GOP blockade on Capitol Hill and make the case directly to Americans hungry for investments in homes, communities and livelihoods, especially as China and other rival countries make advancements.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi compared Biden’s plan to the far-reaching aims of presidents before him — from Thomas Jefferson’s efforts to build the Erie Canal to Teddy Roosevelt's designs on a national park system.
“Now, in this century, President Biden is undertaking something in the tradition of thinking big,” Pelosi said at a news conference.
The doctor said that fentanyl intoxication didn't cause cardiac arrest.
The defense is having a tough day so far.
Progressives want Biden to go even bigger. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., said Sunday he expects more funding to combat climate change and is pushing to include his own proposal to expand Medicare with dental, vision and hearing aid care for seniors.
“Now is the time to begin addressing our physical infrastructure and our human infrastructure,” Sanders said on CNN.
As Congress hunkers down to begin drafting the legislation for Biden's proposal, both parties will be put the test.
In the House, lawmakers will be invited to submit requests for projects in their home districts — roads and other infrastructure that could be “earmarks” eligible for federal funds. It's a way to entice bipartisan participation and ensure the funds are spent on agreed-upon needs.
Republicans will be forced to either participate or disengage, often with pressure from elected officials and other constituents clamoring for funds to upgrade sewers, airports and countless other infrastructure systems.
Peppered in Kentucky with questions about money that could be potentially flowing for home-state road, bridge and housing projects after the president unveiled his plan, McConnell batted them back one by one.
Biden’s package “is not going to get support from our side,” McConnell said.
Asked about the McConnell's comment, Biden smiled Friday while speaking to reporters at the White House and asked if the Republicans are arguing the country doesn't need the infrastructure — or if the Republicans “decide that we need it but they're not going to pay for it?”
Biden also pressed whether Republicans are opposed to cleaning up lead pipes in homes, schools and day care centers.
“What do you think would happen if they found out all the lead pipes were up at the Capitol?” Biden asked.
At the same time, Democrats and Republicans will be faced with the politically difficult vote of raising corporate taxes to pay for all the spending, bucking the business community that is largely against Biden's plan to permanently hike the rate corporations pay from 21% to 28%.
Both parties view it as an almost existential battle over competing political views: The Democrats who believe in the power of government to take the lead solving the nation's problems; the Republicans who put their faith in the private sector to drive solutions.
Those lawyers have an agenda.
I don't.
On Capitol Hill, it's also a battle over which party will control Congress.
After Barack Obama was elected in 2008, McConnell famously said his goal was to make him a one-term president. This time around the Republican leader appears to have a shorter-term goal at hand — he wants to win back the now evenly split 50-50 Senate.
“They’re so close to the majority in 2022, they can taste it,” said Alex Conant, a Republican strategist.
Democrats have Senate control because their party’s vice president, Kamala Harris, can cast a tie-breaking vote. In the House, the Democratic majority is holding on with just a handful of seats.
“They really don’t want to give Biden wins,” Conant said.
Democrats, uncertain about their political prospects, are taking no chances, legislating as if they are on borrowed time.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has set in motion a potential process that would allow Biden's package to advance without the typical 60-vote threshold needed to overcome a filibuster by Republicans. Instead, it could be approved with a simple 51-vote majority.
Pelosi has set a July 4 goal for House votes, but acknowledges that ambitious timeline may slip.
“The sooner we can get the legislation done, the sooner we can allocate the resources,” she said.
The goal, she said, was “to get the job done as soon as possible.”
The chief is testifying now
He's a sharp man
The doctor said that fentanyl intoxication didn't cause cardiac arrest
But our resident expert Dr Lil Schitty says otherwise and all they have to do is get one juror to question that!!!! Why does our Lil Schitty root for a dirty cop???????
Your source says
Arradondo appointed Chief by Mayor Frey. So, again, political position.
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Bottom line, for those of you who didn't know, the job of Police Chief is an explicitly political position.
He's trying to discredit the chief of police
Roger Amick left off...
Since the death of William F Buckley Jr. The National Review the John Birch Society, George Wallace, racists, white supremacists have returned to control of the Democrat party.
They were founded on racism and they have returned to their roots.
Old white elitists running the country as they destroy minority businesses and families.
And judging everything by the color of your skin that you were born with. And gaining immense wealth every step of the way while being "woke".
"Doctor S. Scott Johnson " said that fentanyl intoxication caused his death.
The National Review is not Democrats.
The dumbest troll squad is
Roger Amick said...
The National Review is not Democrats.
The dumbest troll squad is
Yep. alky is definitely a democrat.
Scott uses the National Review as a Republican source for his comments. So you are saying that Scott is a Democrat
Roger Amick said...
Scott uses the National Review as a Republican source for his comments. So you are saying that Scott is a Democrat
No, try to follow
Roger Amick said...
The National Review is not Democrats.
The dumbest troll squad is
That would be you
Jack Posobiec
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1379082946666246147
A crazed follower of the Nation of Islam hit the US Capitol in a vehicular terror attack that killed a Capitol Police Officer
The media already stopped talking about it completely
It was 3 days ago
Amazing how the state media jumps on a false narrative then silently slinks away when the truth comes out.
FAKE NEWS
enemy of the poeple
The Chief said that unless the people who are witnessing an arrest, physically intrude the police officers were not required to continue physical restrains on the suspect.
If people actually had physically attacked the police officers, the restraint by kneeling was legitimate.
But the videos don't show that anytime.
Asphyxiation caused his death according to the ER doctor.
The legalinsurrectium lawyer said.
FIRST, WHAT KILLED FLOYD?
Was Floyd killed by mechanical asphyxia, by the officers compressing his chest and neck to such a degree that they effectively and intentionally murdered Floyd on a public street, in front of a crowd filming them? This seems to be unlikely to be the state’s theory of the case, as not even the state has charged Chauvin with a crime based on intentional killing. He is a lawyer not a doctor.
Asphyxiation caused his death according to the ER doctor.
The defense team has a big problem.
For those who may not know, I’m Attorney Andrew F. Branca, an internationally-recognized expert in use-of-force law, providing daily real-time legal analysis of the Chauvin trial’s proceedings as a guest commentator for Legal Insurrection, as well as over at my own blog, Law of Self Defense.
The Minneapolis Chief of Police Arradondo said police officers were trained on how to conduct CPR.
The reporter said that when he publicly said Asphyxiation caused his death, the jurors started taking notes.
The Supreme Court said that the 4th Amendment does not allow the use of deadly force when a suspect poses no threat to officers or others.
The defense attorney is going to try to discredit the Chief. Maybe..
Scott, I'm watching live not reading much shit
"Roger AmickMarch 31, 2021 at 6:59 PM
"American Greatness is a fucking joke"
Nope, you dope.
Always Wrong Roger again scores.
"George Corley Wallace Jr. ,Democrat"
The Nixon Southern strategy changed the political agenda the dixiecrat Senators became Republicans.
Mr. Fix-It
Joe Biden is embarking on the biggest government initiative in more than a half century, “unlike anything we have seen or done since we built the interstate highway system and the space race decades go,” he says.
But when it comes to details, it sounds as boring as fixing the plumbing.
“Under the American Jobs Plan, 100% of our nation’s lead pipes and service lines will be replaced—so every child in America can turn on the faucet or fountain and drink clean water,” the president tweeted.
Can you imagine Donald Trump tweeting about repairing lead pipes?
Biden is excited about rebuilding America’s “infrastructure,” a word he uses constantly although it could be the dullest term in all of public policy. “Infrastructure week” became a punchline under Trump.
The old unwritten rule was that if a president wants to do something really big, he has to justify it as critical to national defense or else summon the nation’s conscience.
Dwight Eisenhower’s National Interstate and Defense Highway Act was designed to “permit quick evacuation of target areas” in case of nuclear attack and get munitions rapidly from city to city. Of course, in subsequent years it proved indispensable to America’s economic growth.
America’s huge investment in higher education in the late 1950s was spurred by the Soviets’ Sputnik satellite. The official purpose of the National Defense Education Act, as it was named, was to “insure trained manpower of sufficient quality and quantity to meet the national defense needs of the United States.”
John F. Kennedy launched the race to the moon in 1962 so that space wouldn’t be “governed by a hostile flag of conquest.”
Two years later, Lyndon Johnson’s “unconditional war on poverty” drew on the conscience of America reeling from Kennedy’s assassination.
But Joe Biden is not arousing the nation against a foreign power – not even China figures prominently as a foil – nor is he basing his plans on lofty appeals to national greatness or public morality.
“I got elected to solve problems,” he says, simply. He’s Mr. Fix-it.
Alky you are going to remain fucking stupid and a consistent liar
The myth of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’
"Caliphate4vrApril 5, 2021 at 1:35 PM
Alky you are going to remain fucking stupid and a consistent liar?"
Answer for Roger " Yes"
My wealth has risen sharply in 2021 as stocks rise.
Roger, have your stocks done well?
Do you still believe that blacks are too fucking stupid to invest in stocks to enjoy the Greatness of America?
I believe blacks are highly capable of investing and winning.
Roger Amick said...
The doctor said that fentanyl intoxication didn't cause cardiac arrest.
Roger Amick said...
The defense is having a tough day so far.
Since the defense isn't arguing that fentanyl intoxication caused cardiac arrest... why is this point valid?
The defense is arguing Fentanyl overdose, not Fentanyl induced cardiac arrest.
Roger is having a tough day so far.
Actually "cardiac arrest" in the manner that they are using it is not akin to a heart attack. Just a "sudden stoppage of the heart". So not sure what the point of that term even is in this case.
Roger - I am just getting around to the testimony of the ER physician.
Are we seeing different testimonies? He basically admitted that he didn't consider a drug overdose because nobody suggested it. He also didn't say for sure he knew what killed him.
Under cross-examination he had to admit that the elevated levels of CO2 were consistent with drug overdose.
The prosecutors redirect led him to state that he believed it could also have been something else (cardiac arrest).
Considering the tie always goes to the defendant (as the prosecution must convince beyond all reasonable doubt) - I am not sure how good that testimony was for the prosecution. Two different legal people watching said that Nelson was spot on in his cross examination.
But you obviously saw it differently?
Who are you getting your information from? Curious to know what objective non-biased non-political site you are watching?
"Roger is having a tough day so far."
It is just not today.
Roger likes to bring topics here, but with a noted poor education and lacking logic, reasoning and debating skills.
He spends most of the day running.
I watched the doctor testify that asphyxia was the cause of death, more likely than the others
It was not a heart attack or drug overdose.
The ER doctor is not the first person to say that
Asphyxiation is a shortage of oxygen
I'm not copy paste anything asshole Scott
Did the officer go beyond training program, the chief said that
o not sure what the point of that term even is in this case.
BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! And I am not sure why some major network has not hired you as an expert witness instead you you wasting your time posting to 1 person.....Roger!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLO
The defense tried using your comments.
The prosecutors redirect led him to state that he believed it could also have been something else (cardiac arrest).
The judge said not accept The prosecutors redirected the doctor to convict hearsay and speculation.
Portland is fast on its way to becoming a shithole
‘Overworked, overwhelmed and burned out’: Why Portland cops say they’re leaving in droves
I have been tearing Scott to pieces for years and he will insult me
Chief Medaria Arradondo said in court that Mr. Chauvin had failed to follow policies on de-escalation, use-of-force and the duty to render aid to people who need it.
🤣Roger AmickApril 5, 2021 at 3:20 PM
🤣I have been tearing Scott to pieces for years😆
Alky
Where ?
Not on Soars Yahoo Boards
or
Here
And the goat fucker just blabs and blabs and trolls like a child again.....BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Another Redhatted booby with no job or brain!!!!!!!!
IMO
Minneapolis Chief of Police is burying Chauvin!
Your daily Asian American beating, no description of the perp which means it ain’t whitey and the perp has a lot of melanin
NYPD Investigating Possible Hate Crime After Asian Employee Attacked Inside Manhattan 7-Eleven
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10165497784695647&id=890775646
Another broken link from the Alky
THWAP! THWAP!!
Arradondo: Chauvin violated department’s policy in his use of force to restrain Floyd
Arradondo unequivocally told the court Thursday afternoon that Chauvin had violated the department’s policy in his use of force to restrain Floyd.
Arradondo said Chauvin’s placement of his knee on Floyd’s neck was “not de-escalation” — as police are taught to prioritize in an encounter with a suspect — and was “contrary to what we’re taught” in terms of placing the sanctity of life above all else.
The link has my granddaughters pictures.T
perp which means it ain’t whitey and the perp has a lot of melanin
Which reinforces the fact you are a bigoted whitey with no redeeming values......sad you spend soooooo much time defending your own bigotry while trying to blame others for the theirs......
Fatty that actually be prejudice, I am pre judging
Bigotry is intolerance, which I have none of
Stupid ass
It was not a heart attack or drug overdose
Gee Roger... it's almost as if you missed the part where that Defense Attorney guy gets to ask questions too?
Were you in the bathroom or otherwise indisposed?
Under cross examination he admitted that he didn't consider drug overdose because nobody had made any reference to any possibility of Drugs. He also admitted under cross that the levels of CO2 in his system was consistent with drug overdose (but not necessarily a cardiac arrest).
The redirect attempted to save face by allowing him to say that high levels of CO2 could have been from something other than the drugs. But the damage is done. This witness provided two possibilities for the high CO2 levels.
I think you fail to understand that this creates two possible reasons why Floyd died... as much as he provides an opinion, at the end of the day that opinion is only as good as the facts that back it up. Towards the end of the cross-examination you didn't get a sense that he had the goods to back up the opinion and that he wasn't absolute in that opinion. More of a best guess.
Roger...
You really act as if the burden of proof in on the defense to prove that Floyd died of a drug overdose, and that if the State can introduce reasonable doubt that it might have been strangulation that Chauvin is guilty.
You also seem convinced that the burden to show that Chauvin committed murder is not an intent to harm or even evidence that he actually killed him, but rather the burden that the prosecution has is to just provide opinions that he failed to follow proper procedure.
Facts are that the prosecution must proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Floyd did NOT die of a drug overdose (not the other way around) and whether or not Chauvin followed procedure does not determine whether or not he committed murder.
LIL Schitty........The fact remains is all you are doing is talking to yourself!!!!!!! The speculation you have introduced is just that.....Stop wasting your time proving only to yourself.......sorry sport...chauvin is a dirty cop and you are defending once again the indefensible!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! BTW....the prosecution is doing a helluva job showing a living functioning human being who was killed....I am sure the jury will see that!!!!!
Bigotry is intolerance, which I have none of
THAT IS THE FUNNIEST THING YOU HAVE EVER POSTED MOUTH!!!!!!!!
LIL Schitty........The fact remains is all you are doing is talking to yourself!!
If this is true... then why are you responding?
He testified Floyd had likely died of a lack of oxygen.
That means that jurors are likely to convict him of murder in the second degree.
The fact that the Chief said he failed to follow proper procedure.
The defense has to provide reasonable doubt.
In my opinion is that you would have voted not guilty even before day one of the trial.
I think that the prosecution has provided sufficient evidence to convict now. But this is just the fourth day.
The autopsy hasn't been introduced yet. The second autopsy said he was not killed by drug overdose.
Facts are that the prosecution must proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Floyd did NOT die of a drug overdose (not the other way around) and whether or not Chauvin followed procedure does not determine whether or not he committed murder.
In my opinion, the defense has a difficult task to provide reasonable doubt.
Strangulation is no longer evidence the ER doctor said Asphyxiation.
You have been saying that strangulation was not the cause of death, because the kneeling didn't cause strangulation, but the lack of oxygen is caused by asphyxiation.
Scott, the trachea doesn't have to be broken or damaged to cause a lack of oxygen into the lungs. Compression can make breathing more difficult, to the lungs and cause asphyxiation.
The defense may say that the foam allegedly caused asphyxiation.
Blogger C.H. Truth said...
LIL Schitty........The fact remains is all you are doing is talking to yourself!!
If this is true... then why are you responding?
He’s not bright, I wonder who dresses the fat bastid every morning. Of course putting in a mumu shouldn’t be to hard
He testified Floyd had likely died of a lack of oxygen. That means that jurors are likely to convict him of murder in the second degree.
Wow... I mean, just wow!
If you were on a jury Roger and the Judge explained to you that in order to convict someone of the crime that they were accused of, that the prosecution needed to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt.
And that it was your job as a juror to provide the defendant with the ASSUMPTION OF INNOCENCE.
And then someone provided the testimony that it was "likely" that the person committed the crime, but underlying evidence pointed in an opposite direction.
You would then tell us that you would "likely" convict based on that testimony?
I mean... seriously?
You really don't understand either the assumption of innocence or that it requires PROOF beyond a reasonable doubt to change that assumption.
Scott, the trachea doesn't have to be broken or damaged to cause a lack of oxygen into the lungs. Compression can make breathing more difficult, to the lungs and cause asphyxiation.
So because it's "possible" that he was strangled in spite of no actual physical evidence that he was...
Then you have to convict him, because that possibility is proof beyond reasonable doubt, huh?
Gotcha!
The judge allowed opinions this morning.
The calm, reasonable testimony of the police chief was very effective and convincing.
The photograph exhibited in court certainly makes it appear that the officer was bearing down on Floyd's neck with his full weight, certainly unnecessary for a man already immobilized.
The morning began with the prosecution and defense in a dispute over whether police officers will be allowed to give their opinion on what they would have done and which types of training Chauvin received.
They testified that in their opinions.
Prosecutors face a steep legal challenge in winning a conviction against a police officer. Despite nationwide protests, police are rarely charged when they kill someone on duty. And even when they are, convictions are often difficult.
But since the bottom line is the jurors opinions matter.
Not yours or mine.
James, this is why Indy left here. Guess who insulted me.
You really don't understand either the assumption of innocence or that it requires PROOF beyond a reasonable doubt to change that assumption.
I understand that 100% But when he runs out of ideas he insults me
Huge news!!!!!!!!!!!!@
The Senate parliamentarian ruled Monday that Democrats can use special budgetary rules to avoid a GOP filibuster on two more pieces of legislation, setting the stage for President Biden's infrastructure agenda to pass in two packages with simple-majority votes.
It's a win for Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) that allows him to pass Biden's $2.25 trillion package by revising the fiscal 2021 Budget Resolution.
Schumer could pass a budget resolution for fiscal 2022 to do a third reconciliation package for the second half of the Biden infrastructure agenda. Or the fiscal 2021 budget could be revised a third time to set up a third reconciliation package.
It will take a while but it will pass, America is back from Trumpism.
Roger...
I would offer calling Andrew McCarthy and Andrew Branca and the sites they represent "right wing nutcase website" is what is known as tossing around insults when you have no argument.
I am just pointing out what you are saying. I guess if you disagree with your own words, then so be it. Otherwise you just own them.
btw... I heard Indy is tearing it up over on Twitter!
What is he up to now, five or six followers?
Maybe. I have about 1,190
You have a lot more than me
The National Review,
Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, a moderate Democrat, said on Monday that he would not support the plan as written.
“As the bill exists today, it needs to be changed,” Manchin told West Virginia’s Metro News. While the current bill envisions raising the corporate tax rate to 28 percent, Manchin said he would not support a tax rate above 25 percent.
A 3% decrease is negotiable
1,789 followers
Indy has 5
I had 11,000 before the great Twitter surge...
But apparently 50% of all conservatives on twitter are considered dangerous QAnon followers and had to be silenced.
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